Skateboarding

[bt2s14]

Who here skates?

I have been skating for a while but i have just started to somewhat break through...

Any way here is my latest skate vid.

YouTube - skating (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA0RxDWACKA)

[BlckBeautyVTEC]

i stopped skating sophmore year in high school when i got a car tried to get back into it a couple months ago it was depressing

[Bobafreak]

Skated for a while but you skate like a beginner? landings are sketch and your doing basic tricks on a 2 stair...wooooo. i can go on and on. skate faster.. shit is slow. lol

[idahotuner]

i skate but only whne i am really bored and have nothing ot do.

[all show no go]

I dislocated my hip and never got serious about it again.
I'll ride one here and there, but yeah not anymore.


^^^ wha? video wasnt that bad.

[bt2s14]

You don't have to tell me Bobafreak, I am not great but this is after not skating for 2 years or so.

[miucus]

Skated for a while but you skate like a beginner? landings are sketch and your doing basic tricks on a 2 stair...wooooo. i can go on and on. skate faster.. shit is slow. lol

i agree. skate faster. it makes it look much better.

[Bobafreak]

You don't have to tell me Bobafreak, I am not great but this is after not skating for 2 years or so.
im not great either but i havent touched a board in a while and it only takes a few flicks to get rockin again. skating helps that way when your learning a new trick or playing skate. But not getting footy.

[bt2s14]

im not great either but i havent touched a board in a while and it only takes a few flicks to get rockin again. skating helps that way when your learning a new trick or playing skate. But not getting footy.

The aim was not to create a masterpiece....The goal is to get better with each video you make, whether it's filming technique, skating, editing...Why be so negative? I think it's a pretty clever video with decent skating.

I am by no means trying to get sponsored with this or any other video I make or participate in, it's fun.

I am just beginning to skate faster regularly, for some reason I skated for years and stayed at a relatively beginner level, while maintaining a large catalog of flip tricks. I finally understand how to really skate.

[sr20alex]

I always wanted to learn how to skateboard cause of my brothers but they both broke bones and i never really got into it so i just ride around no tricks. Then i found snowboarding.. never went back to skateboard but a long board is pretty damn fun. Snowboarding>longboard>skateboard. Post some videos up of you skateboarding.

[Deftec]

:D

YouTube - flip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPyZ0rc264c)

[Brian]

man...... Huntington Beach HS skatepark is dead.

:(


I went to take pics 2 weeks ago.
what a bummer

[berz]

i sk8 and im all bout death wish n baker yall!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shishcabobers]

Yah, but i cruise with an old 1970's mini plastic skateboard ;p. I'll just learn how to do old school tricks :keke:

hZ8uuLd3n98

Watch the ending...its epic lol

[Antihero983]

I just got back into it after 4 years of not touching a board....it took me 6 hours to feel comfortable doing tricks again....

What's everyone rocking for setups?
I have..
Deck: Real Johnny Romano "Ramones" deck...I think its a 8 or 8.25
Trucks:Royal glow in the dark
Wheels: Black Label
Bearings: Black Panther Abec-3
No Risers
Misc. Hardware left over from previous decks.
Griptape: Eastern Boarder Shop griptape

[Brian]

I can't skate anymore.

I tried to not TOO long ago with Dr. Baby and Ross Dead Priate Productions.

We hit up a couple skateparks around here.


It is so strange watching kids skate NOW compared to watching them skate 5 years ago.


WHat the hell is going on with everybody having white cords dangle from the ears.
ipod? whats that?

[DUDEIDONTHAVEA240]

The Berrics - The Best Skateboarding Site In The World (http://www.theberrics.com)
theres some locals to san diego (where i live) on there, they are really good and I have been out skating with them more than a few times.

[Brian]

here is a panoramic i shot with my phone

http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/2/HB%20Park.jpg

Somebody already cut out the flat bar and kept it as a relic.
Geoff Rowley also tageed up the bank (which you cant see in the picture)
This was just a couple days before they tore the whole thing out

[240sdoitsidewyz]

i skated for about 8 years then one day i just stopped earlier this year but once it starts coolin down i might pick it up again cuz here in nola its hot and humid as hell

and my setup is
deck:enjoy panda 7.5
trucks:black and yellow tensor lows
wheels: darkstar 53mm
bearings:reds
hardware:shortys
grip:generic jessip

[ms!3]

Real Skateboards and 88 footwear was all i skated.

8x32 because i'm pretty tall. I haven't picked up a skateboard in like 3 years though.

[Bobafreak]

i have 2 setups.

marc johnson 7.75 grind king trucks 52mm autobahn wheels bone swiss bearings
habitat 7.75 52mm autobahn wheels grind kings, black panther bearings.

shoe of choice. its old school but i love the feel. dvs revivals. Im currently looking apon a rowley shoe. im very picking on material of shoes. i like those that last long.

[spikNspan]

I started skating 12 years ago, broke my leg really bad in high school and ever since then it's been off and on. I'm definitely better now than before at flip tricks, but I was crazier when I was young.

[shmiddy]

dude that was pretty good!

nice frontside flip of them steps, switch hard flip, and i like that bank you did that flip body varial +1 sir!!!

[shmiddy]

ill post up some vid's of when i skated a few yrs back when i get home from work today..

i was pretty good (not to toot my own horn) lol

[Antihero983]

ready for this one?

I've been skating off and on since 13, im 23 now.....and i have never landed a flip trick.

[s13poop]

its a pretty good basic skate video

camera man needs to catch you landing the tricks not shooting you from behind and wait til' you complete the trick

agreed on whats been said before skate a little faster it'll definately help your technique and landing

thats pretty good for 2 years though keep skating and refine your style

i've been skating for almost 8 years i rolled my ankle about a year ago and it hasn't been the same but i still love to skate just no more loading docks or big set stairs for me anymore :hs:

[Bobafreak]

pussys lol. i kid i kid. i been skating since i was 10 im 24 now.. I can hammer some rails but im more of a tech flip, gap guy. skated for jers board shop aka utility back in the yay day. Thinking about skating some more for 71 in chino but i need to talk to my ol boy tim.

[shmiddy]

ready for this one?

I've been skating off and on since 13, im 23 now.....and i have never landed a flip trick.

:rofl::rofl:

dont feel so bad it took me forever to get that trick on lock..... but i lost it now so.........

i had a nice backside 180 kick flip... HAD....

[Bobafreak]

one trick i have been working on is a frontside 180 casper flip. i can stick it but i dont know how to position my foot to ride it out. that shit has been eating my laces.

[LB.Motoring]

Always.

When Im bored somewhere waiting on a girl or at a car meet, (I get tired of looking at cars)

http://i25.tinypic.com/2yzlgk5.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/11hujvm.jpg

[Bobafreak]

robby skate that deck. by the time i see you, that shit better have some scratches lol.

[240sdoitsidewyz]

when i wuz still skatin my favorite tricks were either pop shuvit late flips or nollie bs flips but since i havent skated in months i believe those tricks are long gone lol

[sillydrift]

I skate just got back into it also, about two months ago, i had stoped after I rolled my ankle bad off the sylmar high 9 stair about a year ago. It feels good to skate again!

like everyone has said I would skate faster, and work on your kickflips, they look kind of MOB flick up and out, not down and to the side

[woodchuck]

i started skateboarding in the early - mid 90's, then i gave it up when i hit high school. i picked it back up in college and have been skating off and on ever since.
i'm 29 now and i don't have much time to skate anymore because of work. surprisingly, i get a ton of encouragement from my wife to keep skating (God i love her!) and she even shelled out for a DLSR camera to get some pics of me skating. i think the camera is more for when we have a baby but for the mean time she takes pics of me just messin around on my skate.

set-up:
Chocolate Kenny Anderson deck 7.75
fury SS trucks
shop bearings
darkstar wheels
shop hardware
shop griptape

[shmiddy]

evryone should post pics or you decks!!!!!!!

*thinking to self :what a good idea!!!!**

[Bobafreak]

better idea vids! coming with one soon! shopping for decks as we speak.

[Antihero983]

my favorite trick other than my fakie ollie/switch smith/switch180 out is my fakie frontside bigspin. I cant do it off of anything, but its fun on flatground...

also, I cannot skate rails, but I LOVE funboxes with square rails on the sides.

another weird thing about me....i can only manual switch, i cruise/push off switch (goofy) but i ollie regular. I'm all messed up.

oh and i do switch boneless tail stalls on small quarter pipes. I'm weird.

[CrimsonRockett]

I had been skating since I was 10.

Stopped at 18 when I noticed how fucked my ankles were when I was at work trying to lift things.

Set up:
Flip 7.5 deck
Independent Stage 9 trucks(light)
Swiss ceramic bearings
52mm Spitfires
Black Magic grip tape
Independent allen bolts

I would start skating again, but with car builds, girlfriend, and work, I don't really have the time.

[Touge_Monster]

I started to skate agian when I got a job working for fallen footwera, zero and mystery. Now I skate our skatepark on my lunch breaks

[Bobafreak]

my favorite trick other than my fakie ollie/switch smith/switch180 out is my fakie frontside bigspin. I cant do it off of anything, but its fun on flatground...

also, I cannot skate rails, but I LOVE funboxes with square rails on the sides.

another weird thing about me....i can only manual switch, i cruise/push off switch (goofy) but i ollie regular. I'm all messed up.

oh and i do switch boneless tail stalls on small quarter pipes. I'm weird.

you push mongo. my brother is the same way.

[Antihero983]

Yep I do!

they used to call me Mongo Joe at the skate park lol

People hate on it, but I don't care. I do don't alot of "mainstream tricks" , and people hate on it. I just skate for fun.

[s13dan]

I skated until i got my car, then shit changed. Cars where more fun but ill still always have a skateboard!

[Brian]

You know what I never got...

Why did it become "ok" to push mongo when you skate switch?

what the hell was that about.


When I would skate switch, I would push the correct way.

[Pblesh85]

You know what I never got...

Why did it become "ok" to push mongo when you skate switch?

what the hell was that about.


When I would skate switch, I would push the correct way.

Its NEVER ok to "penis push", EVER !!!

I have skated for 12 years, want to play a game of skate for cars ??? lol

Skating is great fun and exercise. Plus when you sack a rail you pee blood... Whats not to love about it.:hsdance:

[Antihero983]

Hey guess what, fuck you both, I push both mongo and regular depending on what im setting up for. Don't hate cause you can't do it efficiently.

[bt2s14]

I use any blank 7.75
Grind king trucks....some may say lame but they are light.
Blank wheels
Bones Swiss that I got for free 7 years ago and they still run strong

[adrians_s13]

I used to skate A LOT back in highschool.... I used to know practically all the Long Beach skaters.

after I got into cars, I kind of fell off (basically right after I left highschool).

I'm always thinking about getting back into it... if anyones down to hit up some ledges, I'm down. But damn, its been a long time...

[Boostin on you]

YouTube - MUte Team PROMO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVB8BbC49qA)


mute team bitch.


get better at skating then make a video

[Antihero983]

one thing that sucks about skating now too is that being 24, I have bills to pay and I work with my hands, so I cant afford to fuck myself up too badly.

Ah well. hopefully i can shred this weekend.

[S14Josh]

I can't skate anymore.

I tried to not TOO long ago with Dr. Baby and Ross Dead Priate Productions.

We hit up a couple skateparks around here.


It is so strange watching kids skate NOW compared to watching them skate 5 years ago.


WHat the hell is going on with everybody having white cords dangle from the ears.
ipod? whats that?

Little kids are nuts these days. It boggles my mind to see some of these kids skate.

I was never good at skating, then I dislocated my knee and that was it for me.

I just stick to filming it now haha.

Oh, and on that video that the first dude posted...Whoever is filming it needs to be closer. You can't have a fisheye and stay 10 feet back. 1. it makes the footage look SLOOOOOOW and 2. it makes it very hard to see whats going on because everything is too distorted at that distance. Fisheyes are made to be able to shoot in tight spaces, I.E. close to the subject.

[Antihero983]

just got back from 2 hours at the park. yay!

[0100]

one thing that sucks about skating now too is that being 24, I have bills to pay and I work with my hands, so I cant afford to fuck myself up too badly.

Ah well. hopefully i can shred this weekend.

So true. I'm 32 and still skate, not as risky as I use to be when I was in my teens.

[krzy]

I skate too. I work downtown, so it's easier to skate around rather than trying to find a place to park.

[jdm538]

i broke my wrist snowboarding and then messed it up again doing a kgrind down a rail at cerritos skatepark. 2nd time i got surgery + cast for 6 months, so now i just skate to get around.

[ESmorz]

Fuck Skating

I broke my elbow, then I broke my knee, then a few sprains.

Then one day I got hit by a little honda civic going like 40. Snapped my arm in half and got a fat concussion.

Gave up on skating for about 3 years.

The next time I get on a board like a year ago I was filming while rolling, I set the camera down for a water break and was just fucking around on the board. Fell and got a hairline fracture in the funny bone deal on my elbow.

Tall people shouldn't skate.

[az_240]

I skate all the time...been doing it since 6th grade. I hit up the gilbert park here in AZ like every other night.

[Antihero983]

Fuck Skating

I broke my elbow, then I broke my knee, then a few sprains.

Then one day I got hit by a little honda civic going like 40. Snapped my arm in half and got a fat concussion.

Gave up on skating for about 3 years.

The next time I get on a board like a year ago I was filming while rolling, I set the camera down for a water break and was just fucking around on the board. Fell and got a hairline fracture in the funny bone deal on my elbow.

Tall people shouldn't skate.

lol I'm 6'3"......lemme tell ya my knees and back hurt like whoa.

[240love]

skating......so.......... slow.


Good tricks but skate faster!!!!

I quit skating because im a lil bitch and didnt want to break anything lol

[thesimpleS13]

started skating at age 8, gave it up at 14 - 15 beacuse i was never able to land a kickflip -_-. now i jst like to cruise on my longobard :D

[jskateborders]

I used to skate hardcore back in the day, then I got a 240. Now Im trying to get back into it. Its kinda depressing, I used to have all my tricks on lock, now I can either do a trick reg or switch but not both..

[JayDee M Rolly]

http://www.pitsurfshop.com/store/images/padang.jpg

i want
http://beckersurf.com//images/products/SKU_L_77974_1.jpg

[Project "Rojo" s13]

still skating been going four 4years and just broke my collar bone in 2 places july 17 still going strong though skecthy as crap, will show pics of my tweaked arm sooon. at least i have my car to fall upon

[SmokeCircle]

i've been skating for about 4 years now...here are a couple of pics...

360 flip
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v192/238/86/671242914/n671242914_638736_8747.jpg

boned ollie

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v124/183/105/609765599/n609765599_457123_1497.jpg

[jskateborders]

I used to skate arlington skate park back in the day when they first opened. loved the big 3.

[808_s13]

shiet, might as well put my old set up from
2 years ago

-7.5 mystery Ryan Smith pro deck
-7.5 black venture's
-50' ricta wheels
-bones swiss barings
-diamond hardware
-jessup grip tape i think

i use'd to skate soo much. i have some pics
ive taken of my friends since i was the photographer/filmer

-makua[ace]

[az_240]

you're not good unless you ride at least an 8
:)

I used to skate arlington skate park back in the day when they first opened. loved the big 3.

tucson is the shit for skating... downtown is legendary

[hassanbakar123]

YouTube - tre tail grab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4VmspjC9v0)
me some old stuff
2 years ago? i like tailgrabs i can do alot of stuff to tailgrab
i don't really skate that much...my dumb friends are in love

[ESmorz]

I still maintain that people only skate till they can drive.

That's why most people stop when they are 16-18.

:keke:

[jskateborders]

you're not good unless you ride at least an 8
:)



tucson is the shit for skating... downtown is legendary
I think im done skating handrails and jumping down shit. Got too much going on in my life right now to get hurt, so I think Im just going to stick to skate parks once or twice a week.

[Antihero983]

^thats what i do. but there is a sweet three stair I'd like to hit up....

[jskateborders]

YouTube - Fort Belvoir Montage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQrOJqOvvqs)
Lookie what I found. BTW, I have green shoes.

[red89rps13]

neighbor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC59mAF3bXA

brother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HA07Gq9rXM

im always skating around, if anyone is down to hit up 65th street in norco or any other park for that matter send me a pm.

[Antihero983]

no one else on the east coast skates?

GHEY!

[Shmex]

i skated for about 8 years then one day i just stopped earlier this year but once it starts coolin down i might pick it up again cuz here in nola its hot and humid as hell

and my setup is
deck:enjoy panda 7.5
trucks:black and yellow tensor lows
wheels: darkstar 53mm
bearings:reds
hardware:shortys
grip:generic jessip

Dude I got the same board as you cept its new, and still in the shrink wrapping.

I'm riding on a local shops board, nice conave with 7.75, venture trucks, black panther abec 5's, darkstar 52mm wheels....

Hitting abadoned pools is my thing....bandanas flannels and skate board decks, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!

I've been skating or in the skate scene for 10 years....I rmeeber when a dope ass line in a video consited of a flat ground backside 180, to switch 5_0 a 9 stair....

I remeber skating when it wasn't a trend, and before tony hawks came out and ruined our scene.....well not really ruined....just made us old schoolers look bad cuz the kids skating nowadays, you woulda never of seen what they're were doing back then....

All time favorite shoes.....emerica reynolds 1 and 3, and koston 1's by Es.....I remeber when nike didn't make skate shoes and its all about ANDREW REYNOLDS!!!! And emerica and baker teams good, but arcade boards was the shit!

[Brian]

lol ARCADE...... S.A.D.

funny shit

[jskateborders]

OLD? wtf are you talking about. Just do what i did. When little kids started flipping into rails, just do manuals and shit. Little kids can throw themselves down rails and stairs, but lets see em do some flip in flip out shit.

[!Zar!]

Figured this thread was overdue for a bump.

My setup is:

Deck - Think
Wheels - Spitfire
Trucks - Venture
Bearing - Swiss Bones
Grip - Shop.
Bushings - Doh boy blacks.

I want to try smaller/slicker wheels for easier sliding as well as I lighter trucks.

Any suggestions?

[PF ALL DAY]

I skated for a year and a half in early high school. Now I'm on and off. I catch a few sessions every now and then with BobaFreak and some other dicks at the 626 Zilvia meet. It's iight.

I want to try smaller/slicker wheels for easier sliding as well as I lighter trucks.

Any suggestions?
Bones STF's. Shit's slide for days.

[kablam]

Jim Cardiel Anti-Hero 8.0
Krux Downlows (rainbow)
Spitfire classics
Spitfire Risers
Bones ceramic bearings
Faith Skate and Supply Grip (local shop)

i got a nash board when i was 6. i'm 18 now and i've never quit for long. i'm not skating much right now because it's humid as shit in alabama and i got pretty thrashed a little bit ago trying to varial flip a ten stair. :Ownedd:

[!Zar!]

Bones STF's. Shit's slide for days.

Thanks a lot. I'm going to pick a set of these up.

Any suggestions for lighter trucks?

[Shmex]

Light trucks would hav to be either tensor trucks, or ventures, grindkings as well. I've skated a lot of different trucks best were the original tensors, and ventures. Royals were okay, hurricane trucks are heavy as shit, and since I never had much tools I never messed around wtih GK trucks....

That's true aobut flipping in and out of tricks. Shit I was never good at manuals. I have an 11 second clip of me skating the west la courthouse on myspace....awww my fav places to skate...VENICE GRAFFITI PITS, UCLA, COURTHOUSE. All legendary places for us westside skater. And beverely high....metro banks...I was pissed when they tore it down. Damn ilovbed that spot....

Oh and SAD yeah man last time I saw him sakting around was at some lil bank in inglewood....we used to skate with all the hotrod skateshop guys, and daniel haney, steve hernandez, and I've seen way to many pros just skating...

I remeber when me and a bunch of us west la skater were at hmailton highschool, and they were shooting a part for thr 411 video magazine....couple pros there marc johnson and such. Dude 4 swaud cars blocked the entrance off, and all of us scatter and ended up all runnign to the same fence. About 30 of us a 20 foot long fence and one hole. It was comedy seeing that on 411....

[PF ALL DAY]

Thanks a lot. I'm going to pick a set of these up.

Any suggestions for lighter trucks?
I've always skated Indy's since day 1. The stage 9's last a long time and are pretty light. I always cared more about durability.

I'm not sure what the lightest trucks are right now (I'm sure there are plenty). But I'm sure the guys at your local skate shop can give you more tips on that.

[!Zar!]

Yeah. I have Venture's right now. I heard there are some light weight versions.

Bah.

I have internet. Time to start searching around again.

[soreballz]

I miss skating. I used to be so good. Perfect nollie heel-hardflips all day long. Super tech shit, being that Rodney Mullen, Daewon Song, and Eric Koston were my idols.

I usually ran Flip, Scum, or Renaissance decks, Spitfire wheels, Black Panther bearings, and either GK or Destructo trucks.

Shoes... DVS Revival or eS Kostons (the OG K1 Kostons... fuck the ones that look like running shoes. lol)

Parks Junior High in Fullerton was my primary stomping ground - any other the LA/OC skaters, or any fan of the Blind videos should know that spot. Perfect ledges, tons of HUGE stair sets, rails... Fucking heaven.

Stupid fubar'd knees and ankles... :naw:

[!Zar!]

Yeah... I tore my acl once skating.

Just recently tore it again. So I'm wearing a brace while I skate. Until I get the surgery again.

X1YlsdqolVo

This kid is a G.

[Antihero983]

gind king trucks are awesome for the simple fact that they kingpins are indestructable, and if i remember correctly, theyre guarunteed not to break.

I wanted to skate last night, but I had to stay late at work to do some shit the beetle.

[Shmex]

Dude I forgot about destructos wich is stupid cuz they're my fav truck, yet I forgot to mention them. Lightwieght plus antislip axel protection and is the only truck that has a kingpin shorter than most. Its so you don't grind the shit outta the kingpin....

[Antihero983]

going to the park tonight....I'll be sore and content tomorrow!

[2Slow40]

I used to skate in highschool. I stopped for about three years then tried skating a few weeks ago. I was never very good to start with but man I suck now.

Heelflips seem impossible to me now.

[soreballz]

gind king trucks are awesome for the simple fact that they kingpins are indestructable, and if i remember correctly, theyre guarunteed not to break.

Seriously. I TRIED to break em. Couldn't. I'd grind them all the way to the axle, then smash the fuck out of them with a hammer in hopes of breaking them so I could get a new set for free... NEVER worked.

Dude I forgot about destructos wich is stupid cuz they're my fav truck, yet I forgot to mention them. Lightwieght plus antislip axel protection and is the only truck that has a kingpin shorter than most. Its so you don't grind the shit outta the kingpin....
Word.

OH! Add Fury to the list of awesome trucks.

Anyone remember Titan Ti-lites? :keke:

[Shmex]

Who remebers fuct skateboards. Dayyyyyum bakc in the day...

Fav skaters of all time andrew reynolds, jaime thomas, eric koston.....all I got to say is, "jaime thomas, and the leap of faith"...

[soreballz]

^Word. Thrill of It All is one of the best skate videos ever made.

[Antihero983]

I FINALLY FELL.

lol

I was doing good all night the other night, and finally I beefed a trick.

switch frontside noseslide to fakie shuv-it out.....and my left foot landed on the tail and the board shot out.....got up with a bloody elbow and loved every fuckin minute of it!

on a nother note, I love skating funboxes. seriously if i had my way itd be the only thing i skated.

[IdioliIllewly]

また、大量に購入し、いくつかのお金を節約することになるでしょう..あなたが何を愛しているクラフトの特 定の種類がある場合は、一度に同じアイテムを大量に購入する必要があります。大きさで買うときは、店やメー カーが割引を与えることができるかもしれません。あなたが開くと、あなたが卸売価格で供給を得ることができ ますどのように頼んだら、あなたはたくさんのお金を節約するための方法をたくさん見つけるでしょう。あなた が作り上げるビジネスを実行する場合は、同様にそのように保存することができるかもしれません 。

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