Illegality

[matt0941]

Hi I am normally on the 240SX.org boards but have not been able to get this question answered there. I know that neither the KA-T or the SR is street legal in my car (S14A). My question is, what is the possibility that I will get arrest/car-impounded/fined for either of these. I mean is it pretty much a 99.9% safe route to go swapping an SR motor in and driving it around or have people actually gotten in trouble for this. If anyone knows any specific incidents of people getting busted I would appreciate hearing about it.

Matt

[Kid Zelda]

If you are worried, then don’t do it, simple as that.

Otherwise every time you see a police car, you're going to be sweating it.

But yeah, in your case, if you had to go turbo, go with KA-T that way if you EVER do get caught, you can just unbolt the turbo kit and show them your car is back to normal.

[Jeff240sx]

It really all depends on where you live. If you live in a terrible place (california)... you're pretty much screwed.
I live in FL with my KA-T.. and it doesn't matter what I have in there. I could drop a Viper V-10 in, or a Cummins Turbo Diesel in my car... nobody cares.
Heh. In my Corvette, I got pulled over, and had my Nitrous Oxide Systems sticker next to my nitrous switch... (Shut-up! I had NOS before F&F) and the cop asked if I really had nitrous. Then he wanted to look under the hood and was extremely cool about my drag car cruising down the street. No smog crap anywhere, exhaust cut-outs hanging around, nitrous, it doesn't matter.
Anyway.. check your local DMV for rules about that.
-Jeff

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by Jeff240sx
It really all depends on where you live. If you live in a terrible place (california)... you're pretty much screwed.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! werd

you can swap in CA, there are so many things you can get away with in this state. you will MOST LIKELY get caught if you hang around the street races etc..but if you stay away and drive normally, im pretty sure you can avoid getting caught.

[thelinja]

I have a question about legality too. What exactly makes the SR20 or KA-t illegal? I'm assuming emissions.

[matt0941]

Well I live in the Chicago area and would like to know who can really bust me. Say that I pass emissions with the SR and I get pulled over. Can the cop say "Hey, pop the hood" Either way I doubt he would know the difference besides a stock motor and an SR. But yea KA-T you could just go back to stock, but with the SR I would assume that you are pretty much f***ed

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by thelinja
I have a question about legality too. What exactly makes the SR20 or KA-t illegal? I'm assuming emissions.

well here in CA. all aftermarket turbo kits are illegal, except for the CARB GReddy turbo kits.

FOR OFF-ROAD USE ONLY

[uiuc240]

Originally posted by matt0941
Well I live in the Chicago area and would like to know who can really bust me. Say that I pass emissions with the SR and I get pulled over. Can the cop say "Hey, pop the hood" Either way I doubt he would know the difference besides a stock motor and an SR. But yea KA-T you could just go back to stock, but with the SR I would assume that you are pretty much f***ed

Only problem in Chicago is the emissions testing. Make sure you keep a cat on your SR for that reason. Downstate in Champaign (hence UIUC), no one cares. They don't have any testing for license plates...it's sweet. Too bad I'm moving to Chicago in a few months :( Oh well...in about a year, the car will be off the streets anyway. Time to buy a beater!!!:D

So yeah, don't worry about the cops. I've never been hassled for ANYTHING in Illinois and I have 20% tint all around, it's lowered, I have an N1 dual exhaust, and...oh yeah...turbo. Hehehe.

Eric

[misnomer]

Haw haw, freaking fascist californian laws and regulations :P

*gives it up for rural Nevada*

[AKADriver]

Originally posted by thelinja
I have a question about legality too. What exactly makes the SR20 or KA-t illegal? I'm assuming emissions.

The SR was never tested for the EPA and CARB.

Aftermarket turbo setups on the KA were never tested for CARB and are considered to defeat emissions controls.

Doesn't mean they run 'dirty', it just means the testing was never performed.

Don't ask how much it costs have the testing done... you can't afford it.

[matt0941]

:( Well I am still unsure of what to do now. So basically what it comes down to, is how safe is it driving an SR20DET in your 240. If you DID in fact get pulled over after racing, would a cop have your car impounded (possibly) and get inspected for illegality? Has anyone had this done to them?

[uiuc240]

Originally posted by matt0941
:( Well I am still unsure of what to do now. So basically what it comes down to, is how safe is it driving an SR20DET in your 240. If you DID in fact get pulled over after racing, would a cop have your car impounded (possibly) and get inspected for illegality? Has anyone had this done to them?

Well, first off, racing is very much illegal in the first place. But, I can almost 100% guarantee you that in Illinois, the car would get impounded for RACING...not for having an illegal motor. I doubt they'd even pop the hood. But, I've never actually had this happen...I'm just making an educated guess. If you're this worried about it, the SR is *not* for you. On top of that, you're a street racer (prepares to bitch slap).

Moral: you shouldn't get an SR.

Eric

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by matt0941
:( Well I am still unsure of what to do now. So basically what it comes down to, is how safe is it driving an SR20DET in your 240. If you DID in fact get pulled over after racing, would a cop have your car impounded (possibly) and get inspected for illegality? Has anyone had this done to them?

it can be safe driving normally everyday and not showing it off. it all depends on the place you live some places street racing has bigger consequences than other places. here they will pop your hood. makr you down for everything, down to measurement of your height to color of bulbs. if you were street racing they will impound your car, and hold it for wat 30 days?

i agree with uiuc240. your a street racer. this engine isnt for you, if you have all these worries, dont get an SR. if you want an SR best thing to do is keep it off the streets, or stop street racing in all. and take it to the track. whether it be a autox, circuit, or drag to there and do your business rather than on the street with other civilians around. be smart, stop street racing.

[S13Grl]

I'm originally from Chicago. There's quite a few SR swaps over there. You shouldn't have a problem at all, since our cops really don't **** with the technicalities that much. The only thing you'll have issues with is emissions. Lean out on your A/F ratio when passing emissions and you should be good. Otherwise, just don't tempt the cops too much, get a radar detector, don't put a bunch of flashy crap on your car, and you'll be fine.

[christopher]

Even without considering the emissions testing, in most states it is illegal to swap an engine into a car that is newer than the chasis. Why? Not sure. Wont stop me anyways. I don't recomend street racing if you don't want to get caught. Don't even go near 'em. Just drive normal and you will be fine.

[Drifted off road]

so then will the KA+T pass emisions testing or no.
b/c it would really be a hassle to take out the turbo every other year for inspection.

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by christopher
most states it is illegal to swap an engine into a car that is newer than the chasis.

oh yea, forgot to state that. in CA you can swap an engine into your car as long as its OLDER than your car. say u have a 96 s14, you can swap in a KA from 96 and down, but you cant swap in a KA from 97+. but only engines that are legal. doesnt applyl to SRs haha

[S13Grl]

Originally posted by Drifted off road
so then will the KA+T pass emisions testing or no.
b/c it would really be a hassle to take out the turbo every other year for inspection.

Someone I know very well passed. Leaned out the air, turned the boost all the way down, and it was done. Passed with flying colors.

[matt0941]

Ahaha you guys are really... I won't say. I am not a street racer, I don't like Vin Diesel and I am not anxious for the release of F&F2. All I was looking for were some testimonials for worst case scenarios. Worst case scenario being some a** impounds my car just for doing a burn out at a light or something, I would like to know if they check the hood and if so then what happens, that type of deal. And if people say "Hey I live in IL, I raced my car, got caught, and they never checked the hood" Then I wouldn't be worried, get it?:rolleyes:

[zonedout365]

I would say that you will get mixed testimonials from many people so it all comes down to you. I know a couple of peole with KA-T and some with SR, some have bad luck so dont, meaning that whatever you decide to do, good on you, you know the risks and have to accept the consequences.

[matt0941]

That's just the thing, I don't know the risks. That is why I made this thread, to see if I could find anyone with some experience in the area.

[zonedout365]

I cant tell you based on myself what the risks are being as that I have a stock KA with minor mods, but based on buddies of mine, like other people say if you get caught doing something youre not supposed to, i.e. racing, then chances are you will get your car impounded (if you get caught). I know some people with KA-T's and some with SR's and havent been busted.

[logo20]

why don't you call the police and ask them what would happen if somebody gets caught with the motor? You should know that just by driving safe or even getting pulled over doesn't mean you gonna get your car impounded.

[christopher]

My friend Lee got busted racing his CRX with a GS-R engine in it and the police asked him what he was running, he told them it was stock with an aftermarket exhaust. They ticketed him for speeding and of course for an "illegal speed contest" but they never looked under the hood.


That was here in Minnesota, so here I would not worry.

I don't think most cops are smart enough to know what to look for anyways even if they do look under the hood. Most likely they will overlook the actuall engine and go after the aftermarket upgrades. Unless you have a Toyota engine in your Nissan or some stupid s*&^ like that.


:D

[matt0941]

Yea, I just don't want to go SR swap and get busted. But whatwill get your car impounded? Only street racing or are there other things (BESIDES parking in a fire lane or some stupid cr*p like that) possibly racing on the highway or something. Because even though I would never go street racing and the most "illegal" thing I would do would be race on the highway, I surely wouldn't if I could get my car impounded.

[240 2NR]

Originally posted by christopher
Even without considering the emissions testing, in most states it is illegal to swap an engine into a car that is newer than the chasis.

I think that's backwards. I'm pretty sure the EPA won't have a problem with you swapping the big block out of a 60's muscle car for a hybrid civic engine, but I think they would complain if you dropped an old big block in your civic. You can update, but not back date engines (provided they are DOT tested here in the states). Regardless, the SR20det is illegal in all 50 states. At the same time unless a cop knows that an engine in your nissan isn't already intercooled, I doubt you'll have many issues unless you start bragging about how JDM it is. I probably never would have second guessed a nissan engine in a nissan either. It's not like the turbo is obivious in stock form.

The KA is also technically illegal to turbo as the system is not tested and it requires some manipulation of emmission devices. All this is really worthless anyway. You're either in love with the idea of a turbo'd 240 be it SR or KA powered, and willing to
deal with the hassles, or you are just going to have to make do with atmospheic boost and be like the 95% of drivers who can still enjoy their cars for other features (I just got to drive my 240 again after driving an altima for a few weeks straight and damn if it isn't quick by comparison). It's still a fun car even without a turbo, just not as fast.

You may also wish to search as I know these issues have been covered here (I can't believe we just dug up the horse to beat it again), as well as in the 240.org FAQ.

[graphikg04]

So, all you have to do is set the engine to run lean, and turn the boost all the way down, and then you will pass? That doesnt seem too difficult. And if a cop looks under the hood, just say, "Oh ya. I panted the cover of the engine, so it just looks red. And the words that say 'intercooled' increase 25hp and makes my engine run cooler so it doesnt overheat. And about that snail looking thingy, I never noticed it. Since it looks like a snail, it probably makes my car slower anyway, you know?" The cop wont have a clue, and just believe what you say. I am sure. LOL PEACE

graphikG

[drift freaq]

oh yea, forgot to state that. in CA you can swap an engine into your car as long as its OLDER than your car. say u have a 96 s14, you can swap in a KA from 96 and down, but you cant swap in a KA from 97+. but only engines that are legal. doesnt applyl to SRs haha

oops ... you got it backwards, you can swap an engine that is newer into your car here in California. Provided it is the same model of engine that came in your chassis. So yes a 96 S14 KA could be swapped into a 91 S13 but you would have to connect up 91 electronics, smog and ecu to the engine to make it legal.
you could put a 91 KA into a 96 for the fact that the engine itself is basically enough the same. It would work provided you hooked up 96 electronics, smog and ecu to it.
Most cops do not know what SR's look like or your stock engine looks like . Unless you are at street races they are not going to ask to look under your hood. Of course if your car is blatant then they may. I do know from the old days back in Santa Clara on the strip (EL Camino Real) that when they would pull people over for racing they would just write them exhibition of speed tickets.
Of course the way street races are organized these days the cops look at it a lot differently.
Word up, don't street race and you should be fine.

[uiuc240]

Originally posted by graphikg04
So, all you have to do is set the engine to run lean, and turn the boost all the way down, and then you will pass? That doesnt seem too difficult. And if a cop looks under the hood, just say, "Oh ya. I panted the cover of the engine, so it just looks red. And the words that say 'intercooled' increase 25hp and makes my engine run cooler so it doesnt overheat. And about that snail looking thingy, I never noticed it. Since it looks like a snail, it probably makes my car slower anyway, you know?" The cop wont have a clue, and just believe what you say. I am sure. LOL PEACE

graphikG

Basically, yeah, since the likelihood of a cop knowing what a "normal" 240 engine is like is slim. Not many people know about these cars...and I would guess that in all states except Cali, they would have no clue it wasn't the right motor. Only way to really give things away would be to put in a V6 or anything non-Nissan. Honestly, with the heat shield on, there is basically no way to tell there is a turbo down there. Well, except for the fact that there's all that piping...but if people don't know how turbos work, they'll have no idea.

Eric

[matt0941]

Yea I suppose, but if I upgraded my turbo.... anyways, I did do a search here and nothing came up and please don't ask me to check 240.org FAQ because it is not in there and I am a frequent member of that board (about every 2 hours).

[Annoying Eric]

HAHA.. if a cop poped my hood i would just tell him the car is stock, like he knows what the motor orignally looked like.. NO.. unless he owned a 240 and new what a sr20 was.... and if you have a KA-T.. i would just be like yeah its stock, there not gonna know if it came with a turbo or not, once again unless he owned it and knew what was under the hood...

im pretty sure cops HAVE to ask you to pop the hood, and if you say no then there not allowed to do it.. but they can hold you there and say they have probable cause and get authorized to open it themselves...

[TegGSR96]

i dont know what your rules are, but in Canada (ottawa,ontario) we have emisisons testing every 2 years.. but if you fail you can pay 200$ towards the car and have a conditional pass.. and its good for 2 years... and i know someone here in ottawa with a KA-T who passed emissions.. also a lot of people have hookups for things like that and can get a "good tester" who will pass him..
and most of the time if you get pulled over the cop doesnt walk infront of your car to see if you've got an intercooler... ive got quite a few friends who were busted for racing.. and they got their fine, and got to drive their car away from where they were pulled over.. called Points, paid 800 CDN to get that lawyer, and got the racing charges totally dropped.. the cop didnt ask what my friends were running...
the question asked isnt valid because all cops are different, and maybe you will have no problems with 99.9% of cops, but there might be that one cop whos having a bad day and wants to stick you with everythign he can..
Alex

[Griffon2kx]

Matt,

Nothing personal, but I am beginning to think that maybe you shouldn't turbo your KA or do an SR swap. From the sound of it, you'll damn near have a heart attack every time a cop passes you. Here in Southeastern Va, we aren't subject to emissions testing, so it is feasible that I could swap in a RB26 and unless I tattoo the engine code to the side of my car the cops wouldn't know the difference. However in Northern Va residents are subject to emissions testing, so when I move in with my girl up there I'll probably have to worry about testing then. To give you a bottom line, IF YOU PLAN ON STREET RACING I ADVISE YOU TO STICKING TO THE USUAL MODS. Going turbo and nitrous would make you go faster, but it'll probably also entice you to race more and thus higher your chances to get pulled over, not necessarily to your car impounded for swapping in an SR but possibly to have your license revoked. I have had quite a few racing buddies fall to prey to that lately. good luck and if you really want a turbo or a SR then get one, JUST TAKE IT TO THE TRACK WHERE YOU"LL GET A GOOD SAFE RACE.

[matt0941]

:rolleyes: I dont street race, I am not Vin Diesel. Anyways I will probably have a heart attack everytime a cop passes but I think that is a price I am willing to pay.

[Griffon2kx]

Then you have your answer......Good luck

[Annoying Eric]

So your telling me your gonna turbo your KA.. and your never gonna street race.... Im not trying to be an asshole or nothing but thats a load of bull... Just wait till a little fool with altezza lights and soeme stock POS car pulls up next to you and starts to rev, what are you gonna do?!?!? your gonna take off on him.... and don't even say your not gonna......Everyone street races at some point......

Also if your not gonna street race then why are you gonna be worried when you pass cops.. what do you think there gonna just roll up on your ass and ask you to pop your hood for no reason...

[Stylin_240sx]

I honstly didn't know you had to tell the DMV that you swap motors. I mean, you register your car stock and its finished. You could do whatever you want to it as long as you dont get pulled over. You don't tell your insurance company that you just added 125 HP, can you please jack up my rates!! And whats this about an emisions test? Move to Wisconsin in the summer. They be like a 240 accord??? :p

[matt0941]

I don't wanna move there I am not fat and don't have a urge to eat lots of cheese and drink beer.... well beer is a different story. But call me a noob (please don't) if I didn't know this but... do they consider accelerating fast at a stop light street racing. Would it be just the same as going to a residential street with a bunch of guys with "Tigheeeeeeet!" civics and bidding on races?

[nrcooled]

It's completely a judgement call for the cops. If he (or she) feels like it then they can call it a "display of speed". Just drive like everyone else does on the road and you won't have a problem. I drive like a grandpa 99% of the time. "Why?" because its the safest, smartest way to drive. Now the other 1% involves seeing what the SR can do (on the track of course);)

[FSPtwo4d]

a 240 accord... that's great ha ha another thing you don't want to do is "dress up" your engine bay. No blue vacuum lines or any of that ****. if everything is black and grey, the cop won't think anything of it. And get a turbo manifold that mounts the turbo down instead of up... a lot less obvious.

Late

[kandyflip445]

Originally posted by matt0941
Worst case scenario being some a** impounds my car just for doing a burn out at a light or something,


Why would you do a burnout when there is a cop around anyways.....someone is...i won't say it....:D *cough*stupid*cough*;)

[matt0941]

Yea a top down manifold would help in that situation hehe. But I have been giving this alot of thought and my thought line used to be like this. Find a 240 with low mileage - go KA-T. Find a 240 with high mileage - Swap SR. But now I am questioning the SR due to emissions as well as the illegality. I still need to know: Can you pass the OBDII test with an SR? If your car is impounded for racing at a stop light (likely?) in IL and is impounded, do they have the right to look in your engine bay and if they do find out that it is an SR, what then? Once these questions are answered with factual information I will be able to continue. Until then I am in a stale mate.

[BRB240]

Originally posted by misnomer
Haw haw, freaking fascist californian laws and regulations :P

*gives it up for rural Nevada*

Damn skippy! No emmissions laws here! WHOOP WHOOP!!!!

[240Stilo]

Originally posted by uiuc240
Only way to really give things away would be to put in a V6 or anything non-Nissan.
Eric

350Z not Nissan? Say it aint so...:(

[s13rookie]

if you had an sr, and got pulled over and had that one out of a million cop that recognized it wasnt a ka,most likely because he owned one, couldnt you just say it was a sr from a sentra? it would be mounted incorrectly but it would take a 1 in ten million cop to notcie, bs'ing a cop isnt that hard just be confident you know more about the issue than he does, and use a lot of big engine related words

[matt0941]

I wish I could talk to someone who actually had their car impounded for racing at a light.

[[email protected]]

Originally posted by Annoying Eric
So your telling me your gonna turbo your KA.. and your never gonna street race.... Im not trying to be an asshole or nothing but thats a load of bull... Just wait till a little fool with altezza lights and soeme stock POS car pulls up next to you and starts to rev, what are you gonna do?!?!? your gonna take off on him.... and don't even say your not gonna......Everyone street races at some point......


so u race little fools with altezza lights that pulls up next to you?
then ur just as little of a fool than he is!
im saying...... im not gonna take off on him. i want my street safe, i dunno where u live, but not in my neighborhood! i once was played on by guys in a WRX. he pulled up next to me and ask me if i wanna race?! i pulled to the side and gave him my number. i told him... if u really wanna take me on, i'm always at the tracks ... i'll see you there, take it to the tracks young man. that's where real race happens.

[BRB240]

Amen Driftheaven!
The only time I wouldn't do that thought is when I knew I cop was near(Detector) and he didn't. So I say yeah lets race and rev up. Then the light turns green he peels out while take it slow and the cop hits the whailer and flys by after him.
When I catch up and pass by.. The guy who raced and the cop hears the loudest laughing ever!
That happened to me 7 times with my first car(SAAB)

[Annoying Eric]

I'm from NYC.. and guess what.. i raced last night... HA... This is the lamest arguement ever because, street racing is dangerous but so is normal driving, so might as well have some fun while driving. And those WRX are fast, you were prolly just skerred..If i wanna street race then i can, its my discussion what i wanna do with my car..

And, i didn't say i race little fools with altezza lights , i said
"Just wait till a little fool with altezza lights and soeme stock POS car pulls up next to you and starts to rev". I can care less what kinda lights they have, but if there gonna start revving there engine at me acting all tuff, then yeah im gonna run them, i don't give a crap. If i loose then, oh well, if i win, then i win..

that is my .2 cents...............

[logo20]

this thread sounds like 'I want to have a sr or turbo in a 240 but I'm scared to get busted, please help get some balls.'

most likely somebody who street race would say this:
"I wish I could talk to someone who actually had their car impounded for racing at a light."

[matt0941]

So the thread (mine) sounds like one thing, but I say another? The sentence should make sense to yourself before you try and make others understand it.

[christopher]

Yes, sorry for the confusion, older not newer...:(

Either way, it seems like you have answers now.

[live2drift2live]

Go for it man you take risks everyday so why not another one. In PWC in VA, there is "street" scene in manassas on Route 28 and all those people bring their ****assz POS there and rev up in parking lots. But PWC Police are everywhere and my friend who has a Civic that is Turboed was driving normally and got pulled over for having Illegal lights (note His lights are stock) But the emissions up here are a pain in the azz. But they told him to pop his hood and he did and he got charged with illegal emissions and engine swap. (TypeR into Integra LS) and all this other crap. It was a 1K fine and he couldnt drive his car. So if you get a good cop or bad cop let god be with you in PWC b/c they are not friendly.

Ummm that is off topic ^^^^^ But go for it turbo it I mean who causes more pollution your car or some SUV that has a 45 gallon tank and gets 10 MPG.

JBM

[240fluke]

Originally posted by drift freaq
oops ... you got it backwards, you can swap an engine that is newer into your car here in California. Provided it is the same model of engine that came in your chassis. So yes a 96 S14 KA could be swapped into a 91 S13 but you would have to connect up 91 electronics, smog and ecu to the engine to make it legal.
you could put a 91 KA into a 96 for the fact that the engine itself is basically enough the same. It would work provided you hooked up 96 electronics, smog and ecu to it.
Most cops do not know what SR's look like or your stock engine looks like . Unless you are at street races they are not going to ask to look under your hood. Of course if your car is blatant then they may. I do know from the old days back in Santa Clara on the strip (EL Camino Real) that when they would pull people over for racing they would just write them exhibition of speed tickets.
Of course the way street races are organized these days the cops look at it a lot differently.
Word up, don't street race and you should be fine.


Well...In California you can swap ANY engine into your car PROVIDED 1) It is same year or NEWER than the chassis of the car, 2) It is a LEGAL engine (I believe it must have been sold in California, not that particular engine having been sold here, but the engine had to have come from a car that was legal for sale in California), 3) It must be from the same TYPE of vehicle (you are not supposed to put a Truck engine into your passenger car). What all this means is that if I wanted to, I could put a 2JZ Supra engine into my '95 240sx, provided it was from a '95-'97 Supra if I wanted to, or I could drop in the VQ35DE engine from the new 350Z if I wanted to. It doesn't matter since both cars are sold in California and both are at least as new as my car, if not newer and my car would still remain STREET LEGAL.

Personally, I would say do everything possible NOT to stand out from the crowd. Don't be driving stupid on the streets. Avoid hanging around street races. If the law requires a front plate for your car, then KEEP IT ON THERE. Don't have some crazy, wild bodykit that makes people look twice at your car. Don't have a Disco Party going on inside the car while you are driving, etc. Also if the cop has you pop the hood, one of the biggest indicators of the modified car is all the SHINY objects under the hood and all types of colors other than black.

Oh, if the cop happens to pull you over and recognizes your engine is not a KA in there, chances are he will probably know your car is rear wheel drive and that the SR motor sold in the states is only offered for front wheel drive vehicles. Try it if you need to, but I DOUBT it would work.

Tim '95 SE

[fast-datsun]

The laws that make the SR20 RWD are federal laws and not state laws. Some state chose not to enforce them and some do, but they could be enforced at any time. If you treat your can well and drive saftely the they have no reason to stop you and pop your hood to see what you have. OBWay in states that enforce the FED laws like CA. CHP takes a classes in what is legal in the motor swap /emissions laws....

[wheres_da_cheese]

texas rocks... the only rule we have here is (copied from the DPS website):

"Rules regulating engine swapping are not make/model specific. The simple rule is that a vehicle must have all emissions components that were present when it was manufactured"

pretty simple...

[240fluke]

Originally posted by James
Which includes the make of vehicle. No cross manufacturer allowed. They didn't make up all those rules and then leave a huge loophole so you can swap engines between makes! Come on now........

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03_6/vc9981.htm

This is not the code I was looking for specifically, but it works none-the-less. Here is proof that YES, you CAN have an engine from a manufacturer OTHER than the manufacturer of your vehicle here in California.

Tim '95 SE

[nismo_sr20_wut]

I dont know about you all, but i live in san diego, and the guy Chris Allen with the nissan 200sx with sr20 in it has sr20 tatted in huge stickers on the side of his car, as seen in sport compact car years back, he has driven that daily, all the cop sees is S=tupid R=etarded 20=the amount of pastrys he had for breakfast come on now, have you seen a real cop before, and keep your ka on hand, because if you do get sent to a ref you will want to swap it back in, because you wont want to get in the trouble for having a sr20 motor

[240 2NR]

wait, lemme get this straight, some guy, who drives a car in cali, that came stock with an SR20, has stickers that say SR20, and because of him you made some point that I didn't bother to figure out?


Oh nevermind, unlike the 200sx that came STOCK with an SR20, the 240sx, did not. Anymore bright ideas?

[nismo_sr20_wut]

what the hell are you talking about 200sx dont come with sr20?

[nismo_sr20_wut]

ut oh, My bad, hehe im stupid, sr20de i just looked up the stats i thought all 200sx were 1.6 liter, but se-r's came with sr20de, sorry dont trip.

[240 2NR]

Whoops, my bad. Funny how the 240sx came with a 2.4liter engine in the US. The 200sx in AU came with a 2.0L engine there. But the US version of the 200sx came with a 1.6 and 1.8 liter offering.

I guess I tend to forget about the underperfoming nissan lines. In any case I was picturing a sentra in my head when I wrote that.

edit- you wrote your post at the same time I was writing mine. You had me thinking for a while. I gues I'll have to look it up soon and refresh my memory. Glad I'm not crazy.

[AceInHole]

Originally posted by 240 2NR
Whoops, my bad. Funny how the 240sx came with a 2.4liter engine in the US. The 200sx in AU came with a 2.0L engine there. But the US version of the 200sx came with a 1.6 and 1.8 liter offering.


Don't forget the S12 200sx with the 3.0L v6 :p

[nismo_sr20_wut]

I dont really care im trying to figure out how to get traction in my 240 and run 11's with the sr, if its possible bye

[bbp]

here in ohio, you can get "collector's car" plates or "special vehicle" . I used to see these all the time on cars at the driving schools. They are exempt from emissions testing. There cost a bit more though.


Thanks!

[stealthj]

revive this thread AT ONCE!

what is this new smog laws im hearing about that will be started in october?

how bout the new greddy CARB legal turbo kit??

maybe i should search...

[720_datsun]

Originally posted by nismo_sr20_wut
I dont know about you all, but i live in san diego, and the guy Chris Allen with the nissan 200sx with sr20 in it has sr20 tatted in huge stickers on the side of his car, as seen in sport compact car years back, he has driven that daily, all the cop sees is S=tupid R=etarded 20=the amount of pastrys he had for breakfast come on now, have you seen a real cop before, and keep your ka on hand, because if you do get sent to a ref you will want to swap it back in, because you wont want to get in the trouble for having a sr20 motor yeah im from san diego too. ok if your in california they do engine inspections to pass emissions. so umm if you have a giant turbo under your hood, attached to your sr your screwd. i had a friend that turboed his ka just had a carb sticker made and thats all the looked for. so he was fine. but then again thats also "illegal". california just plain sucks for emissions.

[zenkiDori]

it all depends on where you live. check your local laws. i live in colorado and my friend's SR passed with a better score than his KA. some places it's illegal to drop in an engine that wasn't originally available from the factory.