450sx part 2

[gsracer]

Well, after regretting selling my VH45 swap, im doing it again. Hope to have the engine back in the car this weekend. Heres the pics so far, ill update more later.


Fresh off the back of my truck

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6461.jpg

Incredibly clean

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Popped of the valve cover, the old man wasnt lying about regular oil changes


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Tranny is already at mazworx, should have it back by tommorow.

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[mrpeepers]

niiiice piece. I really wished that they had different intake manifold setups

[gsracer]

oh yea, thanks for reminding me.

This time around

Goals
350+whp
Different intake mani, ie blower/itbs/short runner plenum
Dont spin bearings

[David Steele]

I use plastic tupper ware bins for my parts too although some machine shops seem to not care about dust though.

[Om1kron]

heh, I love those things (tupperware bins)

[hassanbakar123]

what transmission are you using and
are you getting a custom bell housing or a adapter plate
is it going into a s13/s14 or something else

[gsracer]

Using mazworx moded bellhousing and adapter plate. Its going into my s14.




this is what the last one i did looked like



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/VH%20POWER/IMG_5327.jpg

[LA_phantom_240]

That's gonna be stupid quick!

I love it!

[xplicit240]

you actually gonna go through with it this time?! you broke my heart with the last one

[karl wasabi]

wow. I'm gonna be ignorant here.

Is that a Q45 motor??

haha...that is awesome.

[PhAtXSuMo]

wow.... just fucking wow! keep us updated!

[LongGrain]

wow. I'm gonna be ignorant here.

Is that a Q45 motor??

haha...that is awesome.

yea, totally luxury

[onehundredoctane]

what kind of power are these engines capable of if built from the bottom up and turbo'd? Personally I've never seen a VH45 with twin turbos', someone feel free to pm me pics or links though.

[240sxaddict]

what kind of power are these engines capable of if built from the bottom up and turbo'd? Personally I've never seen a VH45 with twin turbos', someone feel free to pm me pics or links though.

Nissan VH45 turbo boat- Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Nissan-VH45-turbo-boat_149910.htm)

sorry, I had to.

[LA_phantom_240]

JAYSUS!!!

That boat can scoot! I wonder what it would be like riding a tube behind that monster?

[scweet1]

Good Luck On th Build. Sounds like its going to be a beast!

[racer98]

also next time around some of you guys should look into the Y33 Cima V8.............


you will see the notiable improvements over the presedent motor.....................

[KwKouki]

goddammit Jerry, make up your mind for engine already!

what happened to the sr you had going on?

[((sr)) kelly]

SICK MAN.. how much did you pay for it?

[gsracer]

SICK MAN.. how much did you pay for it?


I get these for free lol

Some vids of the first time out with the last VH in the car not the current one, for those that dont know, the other one blew up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yc20EKC6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCIcZ_3qs0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55mn5OA34U


In my neighborhood open headers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOKsRvzvofA

[intel]

step pops owns a junk yard i believe right? per last thread... man that car was soo swwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeet .

[LA_phantom_240]

I get these for free lol

Some vids of the first time out with the car

YouTube - 450sx (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_yc20EKC6U)

YouTube - 450sx part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCIcZ_3qs0)

YouTube - GSRACER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55mn5OA34U)


In my neighborhood open headers


YouTube - vh45 s14 first drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOKsRvzvofA)
:Skeetskeet:

[dirtdiggler666]

just wondering im not sure on this but that engine looks like its about the same size as the titan engine?? if so why not use that one?

[s14>integra]

that is just beast. i remember your last thread and i couldnt believe you sold then motor, but now that i know you get them for free i understand why. haha. im lookin forward to this build thread.


+1 for sure

[s13dan]

snazzy, i like v8 swaps in 240's. as long as its a nissan v8. Keep us posted.

[GSXRJJordan]

Excellent! SOOOO happy you decided to go back to a beastly motor setup... I remember seeing your header build-up, and loving it.

Keep it up, you've got a hot Zenki fo sho.

[SexPanda]

mmm mmm toasty...

This is gonna be sweet. I can tell. GL bro.

[whereda40at]

damn thats cool as shit. keep up the good work.

[racer98]

oh yea, thanks for reminding me.

This time around

Goals
350+whp
Different intake mani, ie blower/itbs/short runner plenum
Dont spin bearings



pm me and lets swap info I have a lot of info to share on this with the Y33 CIMA V8.

[JRas]

subscribed and excited

kinda wish it was a VK56DE though.. just because I know you'd get it done right

[Sir]

I hated you for selling the last one.

Glad you're doing it again.

[gunluvS14]

are you going to do something different since this is the 2nd time around?
like diff. intake manifold, cams?

[gsracer]

are you going to do something different since this is the 2nd time around?
like diff. intake manifold, cams?


2nd post in the thread has the anwsers you seek obeewon lol . :faint:

But in short yes

[wannabe_drifter]

Did you only sell the last setup or the car altogether ?

So, in what car is this going ?

And I was wondering is there any aftermarket support for that engine ?

[vaughn4]

awesome... i was always watching the last time. cant wait to see the car now with the painted bay, kouki front, new motor, etc!!

[OBEEWON]

2nd post in the thread has the anwsers you seek obeewon lol . :faint:

But in short yes


Thou shalt not use my name in vain.


Do it big tho man. Glad to see you came back. One of the best existing build threads, and surely bout to be another.

[gsracer]

some one left a present on my doorstep



Big props to mazworx for putting together such a nice and complete kit ,



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[trsilvias13]

How much is the mazworx kit?

[spngr311]

Nice delivery! I can't wait to see progress.

[racepar1]

How much is the mazworx kit?

I hope you are sitting down for the answer to this! LOL!

To the OP: I wondered why you ever sold it in the first place, sick swap. I once again vote for ITB's and an all-out N/A build. That would sound sooooooo sick with ITB's and velocity stacks!

[gsracer]

To the OP: I wondered why you ever sold it in the first place, sick swap. !

I was able to get 5000.00 US for my swap, not the car just the engine swap.

[racepar1]

I was able to get 5000.00 US for my swap, not the car just the engine swap.

But for the amount of man-hours and money that I would assume went into it was it really worth it for $5000? A lot of times people don't seem to understand how much their time is worth IMO.

[gprb25]

So Mazworx makes headers for the swap now too?

Glad to see you're giving it another go man. :rawk:

[zugoi]

you sir just drained my ball sack...again

[dirtdiggler666]

anyone make after market shit like cams piston rods ect??

[90hatchie]

haha that stuff came threw ups
pretty sad that i can tell isnt it
little label under main label
it says what truck what belt and where in truck the boxes go
im guessing the big one says RDR or RDL

i cant wait to see how this comes out

[gsracer]

Heres todays progress , thanks to YUCA for the help.



Getting the flywheel off



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6482.jpg



Removing the pain in the @ss auto bushing


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6483.jpg



Flywheel and clutch install



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6484.jpg



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Have to cut the original starter mount off so the z32 starter can fit



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6485.jpg


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Reassembled the Z32 tranny, took almost 2hrs to get the tranny on as the act clutch disc splines where tight as hell and wouldnt let the tranny slide in. Second act clutch this has happened with.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6488.jpg



Here it is assembled waiting to go in the car. Looks hot, once its in there ill remove alot of parts for powdercoating. Havent decided what color to do the valve covers this time as wrinkle red is getting a bit played out what do you guys think.



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Hopefully she will go in tommorow if hurricane gustav isnt lingering still

[GSXRJJordan]

Excellent! Looks friggin great ~ can't wait for that "first startup" vid... It's cool you're taking your time to powercoat everything before perma-install, everyone gets so rushed with their swaps most of the time, and you always regret not cleaning everything up/etc. Is your car still green? I remember you painted it...

[s13dan]

looking good, cant wait to see it in its new home!

[racer98]

anyone make after market shit like cams piston rods ect??
Impul has a 6.5L conversion for the 4.5 V8 and they have some other parts as well but they are sourced from the US. So yes there are parts for the V8's

Crower / Carillo for the piston / and conrods/

Toyota AE111 20V ITB (44mm) (custom intake runners needed).
use the AE92/AE101/AE111 Kouki 4AGZE Injectors as its a 370cc version and the plug right in no mod needed.
AE111 ITB's are MAP sensor.

As for the cams, a stock set of cams from the Y33 V8 with a regrind to get a 264 or a duration you want but its all about time and money there might be methods that im not aware of.

for cheaper option:
VH41 v8 Y33 engine parts
shorter intake runners
Higher compression
lower gear resistance oil pump
slightly hotter cam

As for the gear box since your able to use the Z32 bell housing that means you can also possibily later use the R34 GT-R Getrag 6speed box and bolt it up to the bell housing set up you have for the V8. This is the same for the Ford Cobra 6 speed and some other BW units.

[gsracer]

Cp has pistons for this motor already, and mazworx has the cam. 270 duration and 12mm lift iirc. Plus they have supertech valve springs too.

[racer98]

Cp has pistons for this motor already, and mazworx has the cam. 270 duration and 12mm lift iirc. Plus they have supertech valve springs too.

sweet !


btw when your ready to do the ITB set up pm me. I would really like to help with the ITB set up...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSmllpDQ8lA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8sT2BQ4uc&feature=related

[gsracer]

I really would like to do the ITB's but im really considdering turbo this time, rear mount single. I dont know we will see i guess. Can you make a itb manifold for this?

[Z33dori]

my friend wants to do this swap... seems pretty conviced to do it


but after seeing this thread i think he is in over his head ( mostly just financially)

and words of advice i should give him... tips, pointers, links to parts you would recommend for install, good wiring man....

[racer98]

I really would like to do the ITB's but im really considdering turbo this time, rear mount single. I dont know we will see i guess. Can you make a itb manifold for this?

if you were in so cal I would be bringing parts over for you to test use so I can make copies etc. I know of a fabricator or that would be able to do this. let me know what you plan to do.


as (turbo)

use 1 S13 turbo ex manifold gasket to see if you can it for the driver side
for the passenger side use a SR20DET fwd turbo manifold gasket to see if you use the manifold for that side..

[racer98]

my friend wants to do this swap... seems pretty conviced to do it


but after seeing this thread i think he is in over his head ( mostly just financially)

and words of advice i should give him... tips, pointers, links to parts you would recommend for install, good wiring man....



sell his car, buy a beater, dont speed and buy the car the thread starter is working on now. and save a lot of $$$$$$$$$

[iwishiwas-all*]

dammit gimme that sr you were building for the longest jerry lolo

[champagnes13]

loved the first build thread, i'm subscribed, +1

[David Steele]

also next time around some of you guys should look into the Y33 Cima V8.............


you will see the notiable improvements over the presedent motor.....................


Cima motor is a 4.1 liter with less power what are you talking about?

[racer98]

Cima motor is a 4.1 liter with less power what are you talking about?



might be confusing with another motor. Y32 V8s have less Y33 have more and a shorter intake runners/hotter cam / bigger injectors / better oil pump set up. Essentially its a black valve cover top motor not silver.

post a photo the motor your talking about and I will dig up the other one I have


btw has any one tried to use the RB26 awd bell housing on the VH or VK V8 motors ?

[gsracer]

Heres todays progress, no commentary too tired....






http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6497.jpg


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[David Steele]

might be confusing with another motor. Y32 V8s have less Y33 have more and a shorter intake runners/hotter cam / bigger injectors / better oil pump set up. Essentially its a black valve cover top motor not silver.

post a photo the motor your talking about and I will dig up the other one I have


btw has any one tried to use the RB26 awd bell housing on the VH or VK V8 motors ?

Uh you're mistaken Y33 have VH41 in them, and secondly GTR r32/r33 4wd is a completely different pattern and don't match up with any of the V8's.

[racer98]

Uh you're mistaken Y33 have VH41 in them, .

it has a shorter intake runner, and its you have to remember y33's v8's say less power on paper but really actually have more but lets make another thread for this so we can discuss what I found later, lets keep this thread on track.

and secondly GTR r32/r33 4wd is a completely different pattern and don't match up with any of the V8's
btw as for the bell housing is what I was asking about for the transmission bell housing, not the entire unit with transfer case etc.


so you can or can not use the RB bell housing on the VH motor ?

[dirtdiggler666]

damn you work fast keep it up +rep :keke: :tardrim:

[David Steele]

it has a shorter intake runner, and its you have to remember y33's v8's say less power on paper but really actually have more but lets make another thread for this so we can discuss what I found later, lets keep this thread on track.


btw as for the bell housing is what I was asking about for the transmission bell housing, not the entire unit with transfer case etc.


so you can or can not use the RB bell housing on the VH motor ?

:confused:

I own both dude.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/C-Zero/FMS13/Picture172.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/C-Zero/FMS13/P1060231.jpg


On with the show for GSracer it's a walk in the park really.

[gsracer]

Heres some more pics one of my friends (user yuca) took today


http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0362.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0343.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0355.jpg


One of the other projects


http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0349.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0346.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0344.jpg

[WangonwWarrior]

Second gen camaros FTW. Here is my road racer http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3408/img0024my5.jpg

[Shift n Drift]

fricking belligerently awesome, what kinda mileage this thing get in the deuce ?

[jspec240]

damn homie... that shit is gonna be off the hook!! Do you see turbos in the future??

[gsracer]

Im thinking turbo, but if the mazworx cams make power, ill be going n/a with itbs. My bare minimum goal here will be 350 whp, i dont think i should have trouble.

[onehundredoctane]

good to know my project isn't the only one with a little overspray on the windows.

looking good man, props.

[DrtyRat]

Excellent! SOOOO happy you decided to go back to a beastly motor setup... I remember seeing your header build-up, and loving it.

Keep it up, you've got a hot Zenki fo sho.
No longer a Zenki, he did a Kouki conversion :snoop::snoop::snoop:....I can't wait for this to be finished

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Im happy to see see this swap again V8 swaps are the shit!!!!!!

[xplicit240]

holy mother of pearl. i wish i could do this swap to my S30.

[gsracer]

holy mother of pearl. i wish i could do this swap to my S30.

Its been done, twin turbo no less lol .

[Future240]

*Subscribed*

Hell yea, I remember the original build. I am glad that you decided to do this again. Lookin forward to seeing this completed.

I would like to see you and SinisterSentra build a car, you two both have serious talent

[Jodan]

do work son.

and go with cp pistons if you gonna be doing bottom end

[ms!3]

looks better 2nd time around.

vh looks so sexy. i say leave it the way it is, no need to powder coat anything.

[silnismo]

Those ferrari red valve covers you had last time were dope, you got to do that again.

[punxva]

very nice build cant wait to see startup videos and running videos...

[LS240]

ITBs! ITBs! ITBs!

Look up Extrudabody. They do ITB setups for all kinds of cars, and since their actual throttle bodies are universal, they just have to make new mounting plates for each application. For reference, most of their setups cost about $2000-2500 for a complete setup minus injectors. They could probably make you a set if you ask.

Oh ya and how much do these VH45s weigh?

[bloodangels13]

the motor hes using i belive is a vh41de if im reading the thread right 97-01 q45

[gsracer]

It's a 1995 vh45de

[gsracer]

Got it running today. First start up was a little rough, as i had a couple spark plugs that broken that i just stuck in the holes to plug them which i forgot about, and i had the firing order backwards on the driverside bank, but once i got new plugs in her, and fixed the firing order and plugged the vacum leaks it purred like a kitten.


First video, running rough

YouTube - Vh45de s14 again first start up 450sx part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpZ_yFWPzDk)


A little better after tune up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP2_O4YoBnc

[C. Anderson]

Man you work fast!! Props to ya. I was curious if you are just bolting the rad support in since you painted the bay without it welded in allready.

[Ben G]

this is a nice car

[liv2drift045]

BAD ASS
Great job... you do work fast haha

[Forge_55b]

nice to see someone that does a project without sitting around contemplating why they suck at it

oh and def rear mounted turbo and intercooler with the cold pipe going through the interior thru the dash!!

also what engine management are you using or plan to use?

[KwKouki]

werd, Jerry gets shit done. Hey homie, Guillermo has my coupe you should go check it out :)

[BustedS13]

a lot of things are ballin' out of control in this thread.

[xxtokesxx]

You know... I was so let down after reading through your last thread a while ago. I'm very excited for you. This brings back inspiration to all the guys that love to be different with these cars. Thanks for bringing back the funk.

Everyone knows the second time around usually turns out better because you learned so much the first. Good Luck. :)

[gsracer]

ok so im an @sshole. When i change the plugs i left one of the coil banks disconnected from power, ie it was running on four cylnders in those two videos. I though it sounded funny lol. Heres the new vid, motors got good throttle response.


YouTube - 450sx first startup all 8 cylnders this time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A36lbAAfRsE)

[Ben G]

br00tal stuff

[MikeisNissan]

that camaro is fire.

[gsracer]

Todays progress. Got my alternator and power steering pump mounted. Im not cutting any more holes in my car so i made my own brackets to make everything clear. For the alternator , this time i used the VH's alt, with a hacked SR20 lower bracket, still have to make the top bracket though. For the power steering pump i got a smaller one from the junkyard and made my own bracket as well thru a combination of hacking apart the VH bracket, and some scrap peices i had laying around.

The alternator belt isnt here yet as the size i needed was a special order but the ps one is fine and tensioned. Once its all together everything will be cleaned and powder coated.

Pics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6522.jpg

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[Future240]

I wonder what kind of gas mileage this will get

[gsracer]

I wonder what kind of gas mileage this will get

who cares lol

[Future240]

No one really I just wonder. This project is making me question the rb25 240 I want to build

[gsracer]

last one got around 15 mpg , but that was romping on it 24/7 pretty much, im sure it could do in the 20's if you tried. My sr with 350 whp got 25mpg

[Future240]

Any plans to try and boost this one?

[Dr.Baby]

have you put the car on scales to see what the weight difference is between like a ka/sr s14 and this? you might have answered that in your last thread but i missed it.

great work.

[Ben G]

who cares lol

thats what i like to hear haha

[racer98]

who cares lol
+20

I wonder what kind of gas mileage this will get
:rofl:

No one really I just wonder. This project is making me question the rb25 240 I want to build
:rofl:

[Ben G]

+1

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[racer98]

who cares lol

Hey I want to buy a prius and put a 502ci in it ! :bowrofl:

[Future240]

And me asking about gas mileage is funny why?:confused:

[SoSideways]

And me asking about gas mileage is funny why?:confused:

Because he obviously doesn't care about gas mileage?

Because the fact that this swap is basically done for more power for the car, and not more gas mileage?

[codyace]

And me asking about gas mileage is funny why?:confused:

Duh, because it's fun to jump to conclusions and flame people on forums ;)

I think it's a great question to ask from the curious side of things, as I too wondered how it would do. Seems to me no better/worse than an LSx based V8 (when not using 6th) and or the typical SR20. Good stuff to know!

[Future240]

Because he obviously doesn't care about gas mileage?

Because the fact that this swap is basically done for more power for the car, and not more gas mileage?
That is obvious. However I was curious and asked a question, so I dont get whats so funny, but hey its cool still zilvian love


Duh, because it's fun to jump to conclusions and flame people on forums ;)

I think it's a great question to ask from the curious side of things, as I too wondered how it would do. Seems to me no better/worse than an LSx based V8 (when not using 6th) and or the typical SR20. Good stuff to know!

Exactly

[racepar1]

And me asking about gas mileage is funny why?:confused:

Because we are talking about an engine swap. Why would gas mileage be an issue? If gas mileage is seriously a concern then go buy an economy car to DD. The VAST majority of people who are doing crazy engine swaps do not DD the car that is getting the crazy swap. It ESPECIALLY doesn't make sense because you are doing a RB swap on your car. RB's are pigs.

[Future240]

Because we are talking about an engine swap. Why would gas mileage be an issue? If gas mileage is seriously a concern then go buy an economy car to DD. The VAST majority of people who are doing crazy engine swaps do not DD the car that is getting the crazy swap. It ESPECIALLY doesn't make sense because you are doing a RB swap on your car. RB's are pigs.

Read above, I dont really give a crap about gas mileage in that sense. I was just curious to know what it was getting to the gallon. I mean shit its a common question, lighten up people

apologies to op for cloggin up your thread with this bs

[g6civcx]

Could you post measurements of your setup as well? #/f/engine-tech/198993-engine-placement-pix-measurements.html

[g6civcx]

The VAST majority of people who are doing crazy engine swaps do not DD the car that is getting the crazy swap.

I DD mine. Is a 350 small block "crazy"? How about a 454?

[PoorMans180SX]

gsracer, you are my hero (again)!

Mazworkz headers look great.

What final drive are you using?

Can't wait to see it in action, do you think you'll dyno it again like it is?

[David Steele]

I wonder what kind of gas mileage this will get


Looks like this is a hard question for Zilvians to simply anwser. It didn't come off as : ''yeah your MPG is shit now'' .

To give you an idea MPG is largely affected by weight .

90-93 Q45 Curb weight : 4039 14 city / 18 highway *active suspension w/o 15 city / 20 highway

This engine is very well made and will be very efficient it's design trickles down to the SR20 with it's bottom and and upper closed deck design, and it's 4500cc's (4.5L) displacement with 1.76:1 Rod to Stroke ratio make it a very good motor on fuel today's EMS can make it better.

However this engine in a GSRacers S14 with is what 1000lbs lighter +? will have higher MPG think 25 and better.

[Neejay]

Looks like this is a hard question for Zilvians to simply anwser. It didn't come off as : ''yeah your MPG is shit now'' .

To give you an idea MPG is largely affected by weight .

90-93 Q45 Curb weight : 4039 14 city / 18 highway *active suspension w/o 15 city / 20 highway

This engine is very well made and will be very efficient it's design trickles down to the SR20 with it's bottom and and upper closed deck design, and it's 4500cc's (4.5L) displacement with 1.76:1 Rod to Stroke ratio make it a very good motor on fuel today's EMS can make it better.

However this engine in a GSRacers S14 with is what 1000lbs lighter +? will have higher MPG think 25 and better.
Damn, that's a very good point. The weight factor totally slipped my mind as far as gas mileage is concerned.

[CrazyTrance]

I wonder what kind of gas mileage this will get

Mine gets like 17 or so i think. idk my speed sensor hasnt been working properly.

i really doubt your gonna get 25. I dont think i am. but my timing i think is still off.... so who knows.

Im interested in that powersteering bracket you made. as i didn't have time to make one before i went out to school. so i'm driving it without PS.

[CrazyTrance]

I see yours is in an s14 though, so maybe the ps pump wont fit like yours, It's SUPER tight down there.

[eek]

You will get better mileage as long as you do not have a heavy foot. Since the s-chassis is lighter than a q45, the motor does not need to work as hard to move that weight.

[murda-c]

If you did some good tuning had it set to lean burn on low loads and at idle, you could definitely get good gas mileage with a large motor.

[CrazyTrance]

well i'm not haha.

[g6civcx]

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[Future240]

Hm all this started by me asking a simple question. Hm perhaps a fuel economy thread is in order

[CrazyTrance]

dude who gives a fuck about gas mileage?

shit if you care about MPG then why even swap in a V8?


I dont... if i did i wouldn't have done it and spent 2 fucking years figuring out how the hell to put it into an s13... durrrrrr


but now that its all said and done it would be nice to not go through a tank in less that a week.

[g6civcx]

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[gsracer]

Got some more parts in, should get more tommorow as well. Im hoping this whole car comes together in the next few weeks as im very anxious to drive it again.


Exchanged my steel driveshaft with mazworx for an aluminum one

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Got some fittings and hoses for the crank evac and powersteering cooler

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Some misc brackets and pulleys from powder coating ( matte black )

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Got the valve covers too, done in wrinkle black this time, red is getting played out



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[chairmnofthboard]

Who did that wrinkle finish? looks great.

[SidewayZ-s14]

Jeez, you have got to be loaded with $$$$.

I'm way jealous! Keep up the good work. Everything is looking so awesome.
Can't wait to hear how it runs! :]

[Future240]

^he has vids of the first one

[JRas]

This one is even better

we want more videos this time too!

dude who gives a fuck about gas mileage?

shit if you care about MPG then why even swap in a V8?

people who are intelligent? who wants a car that gets poor fuel economy specially with gas prices rising?

yeah, because all V8's get poor fuel economy :rolleyes: LS1 gets 28MPG

try this new thing it's called thinking before you say/write all the 'cool' people are doing it.

[David Steele]

Mine gets like 17 or so i think. idk my speed sensor hasnt been working properly.

Doesn't mean you were driving for best economy.

[champagnes13]

hey i love the wrinkle finish valve covers, i think i'm gonna bite that. s:-/rry.

the throttle response and power in your car must be amazing for drifting. vh is definately a cool motor, i like it in my q45, but hate the factory gearing (and vlsd for that matter). 60mph in first? 100 in 2nd? weak....

[PoorMans180SX]

Maybe you missed it the first time, but what final drive are you using? Seems like it would benefit from 3.69 gears.

[gsracer]

Using j30 rear gears, i think its good combo with the z32 tranny

[CrazyTrance]

Doesn't mean you were driving for best economy.

i know. but this was driving 600 miles straight to rapid city. At a constant speed on I-90... at like 70 or so mph. maybe 75.

[Antihero983]

This one is even better

we want more videos this time too!



people who are intelligent? who wants a car that gets poor fuel economy specially with gas prices rising?

yeah, because all V8's get poor fuel economy :rolleyes: LS1 gets 28MPG

try this new thing it's called thinking before you say/write all the 'cool' people are doing it.

Aw cute. listen dipshit, last time I checked when people modified cars, MPG wasn't at the top of the list.

when my friend bought a 1966 Fury, MPG wasn't a concern.

when I bought and modded my 1972 beetle, MPG wasn't a concern.

all I'm saying is, if you want MPG, the way top get the most is to leave the fucking car alone.

i realize with gas prices, its a bit more of a factor. I just think its funny how people are worried about it but yet they still crank up the boost and throw V8s in cars.

and don't give me that condescending think before you post shit, I was mostly joking.

so in short, I was joking, go fuck yourself.

[JRas]

all I'm saying is, if you want MPG, the way top get the most is to leave the fucking car alone.

i realize with gas prices, its a bit more of a factor. I just think its funny how people are worried about it but yet they still crank up the boost and throw V8s in cars.


all I'm saying is fuel economy is an important factor and people shouldn't be abused because they asked the question.

/done

[Antihero983]

and all I'm saying is not to everyone.

[g6civcx]

and all I'm saying is not to everyone.

Hey, the guy asked a question. I gave him an answer. If you don't want to answer then leave him alone.

No need to insult or belittle people if you don't like what they're doing.


I personally don't care about fuel economy either way, but he wanted info so I gave it to him. No need to be mean about it.

Fuel economy is probably not the top concern if you're swapping engine, but after response, power, reliability, sound, looks, and cost, fuel economy probably comes next. I'm just guessing.

[xplicit240]

all the bs aside. keep up the good work! im sure with all the money he has to do this work, he isnt concerned about MPG.

cant wait for this to finish!

[gsracer]

Got some more toys in today

Griffin radiator, stainless 3 inch x pipe

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Got home pretty late from work so couldnt do much


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[CrazyTrance]

WERD.

Looks hot bro. Keep up the good work and baller parts

[projectRDM]

Between all the bickering, moaning, and idiot fucks asking the same stupid questions that were already answered in the last build thread, you guys have ruined this new one. It's like you all just found the internet yesterday.

Quit the pissing, shut up, and appreciate the car and it's build.

[s13_gearhead]

This is big pimpin' bro. Your shit is gonna be hot. Good luck with the build!

[SicBastard]

Glad to see you're back at!
May I suggest doing the supercharger right off-the-bat this time, should help to keep you interested?

[CylonFrakker]

very nice. wonder if mazworx makes headers for th VH41 in my y-33

[chituntang]

You going to run dual exhaust?

[TheArkitekt]

badass! The sound must just be amazing for a setup like that.

[SicBastard]

Are you using the same type of hose for both the breather and ps? Will you post a link to the ps hose that you are using, it looks good and flexible.

[Def]

All the people who posted in this thread saying they care about fuel economy.

Please be nice.



I talked to a Nissan factory technician about fuel economy. He informs me that the engine is the most efficient at torque peak, and therefore would yield the best fuel economy if cruised at torque peak RPM.

My V8 has a flat torque curve. I cruise at 1,500 RPM. Small displacement engines doesn't have enough torque to cruise at 1,500 RPM so they need a higher cruising RPM.

The problem is that V8 tends to come in heavier car. So V8 has a bad rep for getting bad fuel economy.

If you took a light car, and compare a V8 to say a KA-T, the V8 would get mid to high 20s, whereas the KA would struggle to get high 20s, and any acceleration at all would knock it back down to low 20s.

Keep in mind this is not theoretical. I compare my V8 to his KA-T. Granted I have carbs so I'm only getting low to mid 20s, but think of LS-series that get mid to high 20s on the highway. Now drop the weight by 500 lbs and I think you can break into 30s.


BSFC(brake specific fuel consumption) rarely happens around peak torque because it has a variety of factors that affect it(friction, pumping losses, manifold/port harmonics etc). It's typically at a lower RPM than peak torque on modern engines. Sometimes much much lower.

[gsracer]

Yes Im going to run dual exhaust but out to the stock location pics below.


For the ps the hose you see is regular teflon braided hose, summit racing sells this stuff, this is only for the low pressure return side, for the high pressure im getting one made although the stock 240sx hose would probably work.

Got the preliminary cutting and flanges welded on the xpipe. Got to go pick up my mufflers and the rest of the mandrel bends i need to finish this tommorow.


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Here it is installed on the car.


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As you can see there is no illusion of grond clearance here, my car is pretty low ( as low as the tein coilovers will go) and i have about 3 and some change inches of ground clearance. It should be fine as the other one hung about as low and only became an issue on some speed bumps and going on and off the trailer. Besides it aint any lower than the headers



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[g6civcx]

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[Def]

How is BSFC related to throttle position and minor fluctuations in speed?

There's a BSFC curve for every throttle position. RPM is related to speed. Unless that's a rhetorical question, in which case I've got nothing.

[g6civcx]

removed as requested

[racepar1]

Ok guys, who gives a rat's fucking ass about fuel consumption here? The OP doesn't and neither do I!!! Take your bickering to PM so the rest of us can enjoy the build. And seriously g6civicx, arguing about fuel consumption when you have a carburated 350 chevy under the hood? Get real!

[Antihero983]

^see! that whats I was saying!!!!!!!!!!!

[Def]

What I mean is that you generally don't hold a steady cruising speed.

You generally slow down a little bit and speed up a little bit even when cruising.

So it's not practical to calculate the max point of the BSFC curve for a single speed.


So would a single max point on the BSFC or more like an RPM range, say 500RPM or 1000RPM range, that would make more sense to analyze for fuel consumption?

I never said anything about a max POINT of BSFC. It's a curve, there will be a minimum which will move around wrt RPM depending on other variables.

Changing speed slightly or not, the BSFC curves for say every 10% throttle opening will show you where an engine is most efficient.

Enough of the tangent, BSFC and how it relates to fuel economy isn't that complicated. I'm sure there's a wikipedia article on it or something.

[SicBastard]

I recently subscribed to motortrend, and every issue has more than one BS article about gas milage. Pisses me off. Who gives a shit. This isn't a thread about tuning. So why are we talking about BSFC?

Looks like we have some motortrend readers here in zilvia.

[g6civcx]

Ok guys, who gives a rat's fucking ass about fuel consumption here? The OP doesn't and neither do I!!! Take your bickering to PM so the rest of us can enjoy the build.

I asked a question. I have no position so how can I bicker?

If you don't like the questions then I am sorry but I did not bring up the topic.

And seriously g6civicx, arguing about fuel consumption when you have a carburated 350 chevy under the hood? Get real!

First, nowhere am I arguing. I am asking because I want to know.

Second, I have many cars, not just one. What makes you assume everything is about that one car? Any additional followup may be done on PM as this does not concern anyone else.

If you don't like what you see, please ask a mod to prune. I'm just responding to what others have said.


I am leaving this post as a rebuttal to accusations about me that may or may not be true. I do apologise for participating with others who brought up a tangential topic. Please go to the other thread if you want fuel economy.

[g6civcx]

I made a new thread and copied all relevant comments in there. Please feel free to have a mod prune this thread.

[Def]

I recently subscribed to motortrend, and every issue has more than one BS article about gas milage. Pisses me off. Who gives a shit. This isn't a thread about tuning. So why are we talking about BSFC?

Looks like we have some motortrend readers here in zilvia.

I feel sorry for you if your only introduction to internal combustion engine topics is Motortrend...

I never read that trash.

[SicBastard]

I feel sorry for you if your only introduction to internal combustion engine topics is Motortrend...

I never read that trash.

It was $10 bucks for the year.
I got ripped off.

[gsracer]

Ground clearance is for sissies


Dual 3 inch exhaust, xpipe, dual magnaflow mufflers




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[bardabe]

looks fuckin awesome dude.

[turtle m3th]

That's some great work! can't wait to see some new vids of that thing in action!

[jspec240]

Fuckin nice Exhaust set up man. what kind of wheels are you running? specs?? Great fittment.

Over all great job man A+

[s13 @ fullboost]

this One is sooooo much better than the last one =]

[Landers]

Wowzers that is clean as fuck


Rock on.

[gsracer]

Thanks for the compliments everyone, i do think this time around the car is coming out better


Fuckin nice Exhaust set up man. what kind of wheels are you running? specs?? Great fittment.

Over all great job man A+

front 18 by 10+18
265/35/18

Rear 18 by 11 +18
315/30/18




Finnally got the car on the ground its got plenty clearance, never again will i be able to take a speed bump though. The pictures look like the mufflers hang lower than the bumper , but its not really that much, they are tucked nicely under the car.



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[JRas]

awesome work

I'm still not sure if I like the exhaust sitting that low.. call me a sissy but I'd prefer not to worry about scraping it on a speed bump.

still very cool and unique

keep it up

random question: I noticed you had some different tires on the car is that temporary or is their a story behind that?

[clark]

this build makes me wet

[energy0uth]

very very nice....not on here enough but I should be for builds like this

[TUnity2]

very nice. Do you plan on adding some tips?

Possibly twin slash cuts angeled up and out?

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

fu*kin shwwweeet, get it to sound like this please: YouTube - 1UZ Toyota V8 with ITBs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8sT2BQ4uc)

oh and sorry to bring up the fuel economy thing again, but would it be possible to mount a T56 trani to it??? I beleive that would fix the problem, if a corvette can get 30mpg on a 5.7 this is a 4.5, should get upwards of 30????

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&safe=off&resnum=0&q=30%20mpg%20corvette&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=corvette%20vs%20prius&hl=en&emb=0 (http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&safe=off&resnum=0&q=30%20mpg%20corvette&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=corvette%20vs%20prius&hl=en&emb=0)

[gsracer]

yes, anything is possible but the extra 2 grand youd have to spend would negate 5 years worth of the difference between the two fuel economy wise.

[xplicit240]

amazing. simply amazing.

[jspec240]

Nice sizes. what brand and model though?? there isnt a pic on here that shows what they are. to me the last side pic where you can see like a quarter of the wheel look like my favorite wheels of all time that I missed the bid on ebay :( but if you have them I think that would be cool and would deserve a home with you... haha

The deep g7's
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[Modrified]

a lot of goodies you got there. nice. love the pics and keep them coming. thanks.

[gsracer]

Nice sizes. what brand and model though?? there isnt a pic on here that shows what they are. to me the last side pic where you can see like a quarter of the wheel look like my favorite wheels of all time that I missed the bid on ebay :( but if you have them I think that would be cool and would deserve a home with you... haha

The deep g7's



They are work meister s1 3 peice

[gsracer]

got it cranked back up, sound is amazing the video doesnt do it justice. The smoke is the oil in the exhaust being burned up, at least i hope lol




YouTube - 450sx new dual 3 inch exhaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78SII82ZYMg)

[LA_phantom_240]

:skeetskeet:

[Antihero983]

so sexual. your exhaust fucking owns.

[fastasssr20]

Man that sounds awesome I wish i had time to build cars again! keep up the great work I love watching the progress

[Future240]

got it cranked back up, sound is amazing the video doesnt do it justice. The smoke is the oil in the exhaust being burned up, at least i hope lol




YouTube - 450sx new dual 3 inch exhaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78SII82ZYMg)

fuck who needs porn :wackit::wackit::wackit::wackit::wackit::wackit:

[turtl631]

Excellent! Time for Mazworx cams. Are you still thinking about the NA route?

[lechu84]

siiiiicck build man.. i like the step by step updates

[gsracer]

nothing much to report, im waiting on parts again to finish the engine bay, and for the brakes. Im trying to get the car driving so i can get it painted next month and be done for now.

So as a result of killing time , im building a new harness for the engine, getting rid of all the stuff im not using and tucking it away for less visibility.

Example coil pack harness before

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After


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Still a work in progress hope to have the car drving soon.

[SicBastard]

So do you know if the new FX50 v8 will bolt up to your adapter when this thing gets tired?

PS. way to keep the details in sight, harness looks much improved!

[Forge_55b]

haha mods due to boredom. AWESOME

[irax]

So do you know if the new FX50 v8 will bolt up to your adapter when this thing gets tired?

PS. way to keep the details insight, harness looks much improved!

I read on NICO or a 350z forum that the new 4.0 v6 6speed fit the new 4.5-50 v8's supposedly

[JRas]

nothing much to report, im waiting on parts again to finish the engine bay, and for the brakes.

what brakes are you waiting for? last time you had cts-v calipers with powerslot rotors in the front, correct?

[DrtyRat]

what brakes are you waiting for? last time you had cts-v calipers with powerslot rotors in the front, correct?
I was wondering the same thing

[gsracer]

Im still running ctsv fronts however im doing new brake lines front and rear.

[David Steele]

So do you know if the new FX50 v8 will bolt up to your adapter when this thing gets tired?

PS. way to keep the details insight, harness looks much improved!

Do you know anything about that new engine to be suggesting it ?

Vk's don't share the same bolt pattern.

The VH has advantages over the newer VK series end of story.

[SicBastard]

All I really know is that it makes 390 hp vs. 315
And with access to a junkyard...
Even a car/engine that only came out last June isn't off the table.

This is from edmunds.com:

Speed is the 2008 Infiniti FX50's prime directive. The 60-mph mark flashes by in just 5.6 seconds, as compared to the 6.8 seconds required by the FX45's 60-mph sprint. Plus, when the tach needle sweeps past 4,000 rpm, there is a conspicuous extra surge of power from the FX50 V8 courtesy of its sophisticated system for variable valve timing and lift.

[anyotherone]

VK56 is just too expensive to make it a worthwhile swap at this point, IMO.

Nice work GSracer, I'm excited to watch what your up to, I'm going to be finishing up my VH swap with Mazworx headers and transmission adapter once I get my car back out of paint. I think I'm going to build new coil pack harnesses too, mine are very brittle.

SicBastard - The newer VK engines have different bolt patterns than the earlier VH. I've confirmed this at a local Infiniti dealership that a friend is service manager at.

[SicBastard]

The newer VK engines have different bolt patterns than the earlier VH. I've confirmed this at a local Infiniti dealership that a friend is service manager at.

Bogus

[anyotherone]

It's not that big of a deal though, an adapter for them could be made just as easily as this one if someone with the means like Mazworx wanted to take it on.

The VH45 is ideal on lots of different counts though.

[SoSideways]

People.

Shut the fuck up about the fucking VK.

If Jerry wanted to do the VK he would have done it.

But he didn't. He's doing a VH again, so let's leave the fucking thread alone if you don't have anything constructive to say.

This isn't a VK vs VH thread. Start one if you really want to talk about it.

[David Steele]

All I really know is that it makes 390 hp vs. 315
And with access to a junkyard...
Even a car/engine that only came out last June isn't off the table.

This is from edmunds.com:

Speed is the 2008 Infiniti FX50's prime directive. The 60-mph mark flashes by in just 5.6 seconds, as compared to the 6.8 seconds required by the FX45's 60-mph sprint. Plus, when the tach needle sweeps past 4,000 rpm, there is a conspicuous extra surge of power from the FX50 V8 courtesy of its sophisticated system for variable valve timing and lift.

Exactly that's all you know have you ever looked at these blocks?

The VH has a casted in brace the VK doesn't get other than that they are both the same. Minus the removable metric plugs the VH has.




The newer VK engines have different bolt patterns than the earlier VH. I've confirmed this at a local Infiniti dealership that a friend is service manager at.

Bogus

This was already said.

The VK already has a 5 speed adapter plate made already to use with the 300zx transmission.

[SicBastard]

Shit, people got their panties all up in a bunch.

All I asked was if the VK would be a direct bolt in if Jerry ever decided he wanted to go that direction i n the future. I wasn't "suggesting" anything. Simple question. Thanx for the answer.

[champagnes13]

this thread is so full of v8 gangsters, i'm impressed. keep it comin

[phishtank]

I plan on doing the VH45 swap in my S13 when i get back from tech school....so ill be paying very close attention to this thread for info to make my life easier. I never did see what tranny you used. I know they already make adapter plates that can be ordered to put a Z32 5 speed tranny behind the vh45....which is the route i planned on going considering how rugged that tranny is. I want to do a complete build and twin turbo it though. But good luck and keep giving updates.

[gsracer]

Well been busy all week, got the engine harness done, it was a pain but looks much better. Plus i got to cut out a lot of unused stuff.


before

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6611.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6612.jpg



Moved the ignitors to the inside of the car, and finish both coil pack harnesses.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6613.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6614.jpg


and here is the main engine harness

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6615.jpg


The tags are where i have to add another plug


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6619.jpg

[RUTH'LESSDET]

this thread is so full of v8 gangsters, i'm impressed. keep it comin
you better watch out this v8 shit is like the flu now & everybody is getting it:keke:

[iwishiwas-all*]

jerry, what is that wiring kit called? i need to fix up my harness badddddd, u get it from murrays or something?

[David Steele]

^lol wiring kit

[gsracer]

jerry, what is that wiring kit called? i need to fix up my harness badddddd, u get it from murrays or something?


Its not really a kit , i just pretty much hacked apart the old harness, shortend some ,replace wires that where corroded , replaced hard broken connectors and thats it. My main goal was get rid of the mess on top of the coils and place the ignitors inside the car, plus i wanted to remove everything i wasnt using all in all it was like 5 plugs and 17 wires or something like that.

As for the braided sleeving, its just nylon wire braid, you can get it at cableorganizer.com. They are close by in boyton beach, its cheap too.

[GSXRJJordan]

Harness looks good - I dig the attention to detail.

I have that disease where my attention to detail is 110%, right up until the moment it runs/works, and then I just say "fuck it" till it breaks. Grats on keepin it nice after initial startup.

[gsracer]

Its easy to pay attention to details when the car has no brakes/windows/interior/seatbelts and you cant drive it. However i promise you this as soon as the brakes get done, ill throw in my momo bucket, duct tape my self to the seat and take it for a spin lol.. windows or not.

This is one of the reasons it was easy to part with the last setup, while it good and worked great, there where alot of things i would liked to have done differently but couldnt due to time/money/creativity constraints. The last car after 6 months i just wanted to drive it so i hurried up at the end.

[iwishiwas-all*]

Its not really a kit , i just pretty much hacked apart the old harness, shortend some ,replace wires that where corroded , replaced hard broken connectors and thats it. My main goal was get rid of the mess on top of the coils and place the ignitors inside the car, plus i wanted to remove everything i wasnt using all in all it was like 5 plugs and 17 wires or something like that.

As for the braided sleeving, its just nylon wire braid, you can get it at cableorganizer.com. They are close by in boyton beach, its cheap too.

thats what i was referring to, the wraps, well thanks

[gsracer]

thats what i was referring to, the wraps, well thanks

no prob, check that website they have lots of cool stuff besides wrap.

[SexPanda]

dude that fucking exhaust is sweet...

Kinda makes me wish I could weld... I'd like a new exhaust on the bummer.

[gsracer]

well got a bit accomplised today.

Got a fan for my radiator, its a ford taurus dual speed fan, alot of mustang guys use them , and from just turning it on attached to my radiator it has twice as much air flow than the dual flexalites i had before. Plus it has a built in shroud and with a little trim it fit my rad perfectly, except for an inch or so that hung below the rad, which ill fix with a peice of aluminum.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6620.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6622.jpg


Also made the braided hose for the catch can (which im fabbing up later this week) and installed the wiring, plus i was able to get the brake booster back on as well.

I love the fact that you can hardly see any wiring on this engine, and its all there


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6624.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6625.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6626.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6627.jpg



Lastly made the mounts for the radiator to sit on and got it in the car, im almost there lol.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6631.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6634.jpg

[Future240]

Your work is to be envied

How much do you have left to do till the car is streetable?

[irax]

whats the part number on the radiator? I need one exactly like that for my vq35 swap!

[turtl631]

I couldn't find anything about gauge functionality other than you mentioning that you hooked up the tach but the water temp gauge wasn't working. Is it difficult getting the tach to work? I saw that Mazworz sells a module for the speedo. Will the temp gauge work with the Q45 temp sensor?

[Def]

Knowing Nissan, I bet you could put in an S13/S14 gauge cluster temp sensor where the stock VH one goes. If not, there's always a drill and tap to toss that sucker in there.

[jspec240]

Damn bro almost done.. gotta post up a vid of some figure 8's haha

[gsracer]

Well Ive been really busy with work lately so these arent the most current pics but for what its worth the car is running, just have to finish up the brake lines.

Undercoated the both wheel wells


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6639.jpg



Made my own high pressure steel braided ps hose, and did the nylon braid for the return to the power steering cooler. They run real close to the headers so i put the heat sleeving over them.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6640.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6642.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6643.jpg


Ballerific alluminum drive shaft

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6644.jpg


Here you can see where i put the fuel filter, the engine bay was too cluttered so i put it on the bottom of the car, the zip ties where just temporary, its all clamped in place now

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6646.jpg


Here you can see the power steering cooler, hopefully it wont boil over any more


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6648.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6649.jpg




Also got the expansion tank mounted , its at the highest point so i should have no air bubble problem since the radiator is lower than the water outlet


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6650.jpg


Also got rid of the origin sides and rears and bought another set of jdm zenki sides and valences, much better imo.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6651.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6652.jpg



Thats it for now maybe ill get some dyno vids in a week or two then its off to paint.

[blueshark123]

wow this car is gonna be so sexy when done

[Antihero983]

I wish my VH41 was that easy....

[CrazyTrance]

Sweet man! Thats the exact same fan i am using on my car. With the stock radiator. No overheating problems yet. except its chilly right now. we will see in the summer

[allntrlundrgrnd]

This shit is pure awesome.

coming together nicely man, good choice going oem aero imo.

[gsracer]

praise the lord, the engine is done. It starts and runs and idles and all, i have a few loose ends such as the catch can and such but nothing major. Now i can paint this [email protected] and take it to the track.

Will be getting the radiator support powdercoated soon as well

Heres some pics


http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0661.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0647.jpg

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0651.jpg


Should be able to take it for a spin around the block at least tommorow, just have to clean up this mess

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/jerry/DSC_0655.jpg

[JRas]

such an awesome car

any idea on weight? possibly the weight distribution? may be asking too much :P

[tckracker]

Super clean build. V8 ftw.
GLWB

[gsracer]

should be right around 2700 lbs, weight distribution i dont know

[exitspeed]

Oh man I can't believe I missed this whole thing.

AWESOME!

Vids of that bitch running would be sweet.

[xsublimefrekx]

car looks sick, amazing project and the car has come a long way. Thumbs up to you

[Om1kron]

Oh man I can't believe I missed this whole thing.

AWESOME!

Vids of that bitch running would be sweet.

scroll up!

And glad you finally finished the motor, shit's minty fresh, looking at the intake manifold, you should have someone airbrush it into a tarantula or something it looks like a fucking critter LOL!

[vaughn4]

very nice.... no hurry up and post ANOTHER first drive video!!!!!!!!

[DaBlkSupaMn]

dude.....

I LOVE YOU!!!! YOU R MY FUCKIN HERO!!!!!

[sultan]

no air filter? i have a jwt pop charger that will fit a q maf around here somewhere

[fromxtor]

scroll up!

And glad you finally finished the motor, shit's minty fresh, looking at the intake manifold, you should have someone airbrush it into a tarantula or something it looks like a fucking critter LOL!


Get it done wood grain from dip tech, looks badass man.

[Nismo240SX]

great build! One of the few threads I've subscribed to... can't wait to see it finished! Great job, and great attention to detail. I love the matte black valve covers! My SR's valvecover is the same. ;)

Just one suggestion, for all the money you've used on this build... please tell me that Fram oil filter is just temporary. You've soaked a ton of money not to owe the car a better oil filter! OEM Nissan FTW! Please?!?

[gsracer]

Well busy weekend, got the front end mocked up and hood pins installed and pretty much got eberything mechanical wise put together.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6668.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6669.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6671.jpg





Which culminated in this


YouTube - VH45de S14 first drive again 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H9t_P0AxHw)

The whine you hear is the p/s pump as i had no fluid in the system,

We ended up removing everything that wasnt bolted down and took it for a spin, unfortunatly the vid is pretty uneventful. When i was further from my neighborhood i opened her up, it will destroy 315 azenis from a roll in second gear and if you go first thru third its amazing, i couldnt take it out too long as it was getting dark, but all in all great ride

Heres some more pics


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6673.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6674.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6675.jpg

Serious buisness

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Projectbacktobasics/IMG_6685.jpg

[Forge_55b]

sounds good, i think lol, couldn't tell a whole lot from the vid but glad to see the project already almost completed.......damn u work fast

[GSXRJJordan]

Haha, soooooo sick. Sounds great, will look great, and I still am amazed at how well that exhaust turned out. Fucking excellent work man.

That's right, FUCKING excellent.

[s13dan]

wow that car is absolutly amazing. I LOVE IT! and you did it all on a wood deck LOL!!! I cant wait to see the end product i know you have been working on that car for a long time.

[bardabe]

looks good!

[turtl631]

Are those the ebay plastic headlights? Look pretty good. I'm not a huge fan of the hood, but you can't win 'em all.

Motor sounds killer. Think this is mostly the result of the X pipe and twin exhausts? From a quick perusal it seems most of the chevy swappers just do a y pipe to a single 3", but I don't think you can even think about comparing the sound of a 5.7L pushrod engine to a 4.5L DOHC.

I like the idea of painting the IM like a spider. That needs to happen, if only in jest.

[sirhc]

Danm, sound so good. Rear tires are beefy as hell. Sick car:bowrofl:

[HyperTek]

very nice build up! Gotta admire the attention to detail you have put into this.

[GSXRJJordan]

... to a 4.5L DOHC.

VH45DE was actually a quad-cam, 32v. Yeah, they sound a little different, but cam profile will be a bigger factor than number of cams.

[SoSideways]

VH45DE was actually a quad-cam, 32v. Yeah, they sound a little different, but cam profile will be a bigger factor than number of cams.

DOHC as in dual over HEAD cam.

2 cams per head = still DOHC.

[vaughn4]

great to see this thing up and running again! are you going to paint the car yourself? have you thought of running some type of tips on your exhaust? either that or polish out the piping you have there now... maybe even blue them with a torch.

[irax]

DOHC as in dual over HEAD cam.

2 cams per head = still DOHC.

quad cam, dohc, tomato tomatto

[driftrkp]

what flywheel did you use?

[turtl631]

QOHC!

That's what I say.