Origin Super Lightweight FRP Doors !!!

[tougefactory]

Origin Super Lightweight FRP Doors weigh fraction of a stock door. Origin S13 doors are 11.5 lbs, where stock S13 doors are over 65 lbs! Super Lightweight FRP Doors retain stock skeleton to utilize window,door locks and handles. AE86 doors are only 15lbs!

S13

http://www.tougefactory.com/oam2008/images/_DSC0009.jpg

http://www.tougefactory.com/oam2008/images/_DSC0015.jpg

http://www.origin-lab.com/other/s13door_out.jpg

http://www.origin-lab.com/other/s13door_in.jpg

AE86

http://www.origin-lab.com/other/ae86-frpdoor-moneyshot.jpg

http://www.origin-lab.com/other/ae86door_out.jpg

http://www.origin-lab.com/other/ae86door_in.jpg

Fits like OEM door, you can also use your stock door card, and glass
without any problems!

[Brian]

very nice looking.

super light!!!

[HS13KLS]

price..?

and

tougefactory are cool people.

+1 for them

[Om1kron]

man I couldn't think about some dipshit in a parking lot throwing their door into mine and just breaking the fiberglass lol. That would suck but otherwise a bad ass modification.

[A Spec Products]

A lot of you guys think fiberglass is a delicate flower haha

Fiberglass is not like one time hit only, it's a lot more durable than you'd think

Tougefactory definitely good peoples in my book

[fromxtor]

How would you go about putting your window crank assembly into this?

[steve shadows]

FIBERGLASS? OR what?

i am interested if it's something other than just fiberglass

[Matej]

Don't get T-boned without door bars.

[Brian]

I have thrown the head of a sledgehammer over and over and over in the middle of one of our FRP hoods.
it NEVER broke.

Fiberglass is strong.
Listen to Logan.

[tougefactory]

The door is very strong and flexible. Unlike your steel doors, it doesn't get door dings. It'll just bend. If you get hit hard enough to break it, you have other things to worry about, other than just the doors.

We would highly recommend getting a roll cage with door bars, as it doesn't have the side impact beams.

MSRP is $720. Please contact any authorized Origin distributors to get retail pricing.

These doors are coming in middle of september.

[tougefactory]

Pound for pound FRP is stronger than steel. And does not corrode like steel. And it is easier to repair than steel.

[A Spec Products]

Don't get T-boned without door bars.

Yes I don't think they would recommend this for daily driving use

[Matej]

Yes I don't think they would recommend this for daily driving use
That's what I meant, I know people will be putting these on their daily driver 240's haha.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to put them down or anything, I think they're pretty awesome.

[Pank]

A lot of you guys think fiberglass is a delicate flower haha

Fiberglass is not like one time hit only, it's a lot more durable than you'd think

Tougefactory definitely good peoples in my book


I was made a believer when inertiaticism drove over a chargespeed front bumper 3 or 4 times with his jeep, and watching it basically spring back.

[808_s13]

proably one of the best
ways to shave off some
lbs of your car. good
product!

-makua[ace]

[rps13drift]

proably one of the best
ways to shave off some
lbs of your car. good
product!

-makua[ace]

especialy on a 240 convertible. The stock vert doors are fucking retarded heavy! i may look into something like this over the winter!

[burnsauto]

do they sag in the middle on the back? :keke: no i can't hate on origin, great stuff:)

[sunnys14]

Wheres the S14 love <3 <3 <3?

[Mangudai]

Yea I wouldn't mind put them on a dd if I didnt care for my life or the passengers. Course, -100 lbs isn't worth either. Now if we could just get some oem style cf/fiberglass front fenders.

[FaLKoN240]

A lot of you guys think fiberglass is a delicate flower haha

Fiberglass is not like one time hit only, it's a lot more durable than you'd think

Tougefactory definitely good peoples in my book

The door is very strong and flexible. Unlike your steel doors, it doesn't get door dings. It'll just bend. If you get hit hard enough to break it, you have other things to worry about, other than just the doors.

We would highly recommend getting a roll cage with door bars, as it doesn't have the side impact beams.

MSRP is $720. Please contact any authorized Origin distributors to get retail pricing.

These doors are coming in middle of september.

Yeah, these guys are right.

Fiberglass is really great for LOWspeed impact, you see it explode when guys are drifting because there's 2500 lbs of force going 80+miles per hour towards a solid immobile object (dirt, off road, whatever)

That's why people think fiberglass is so fragile.

[scottie]

to all those knocking fiberglass, WTF do u think a Corvette mostly comprised of?

Do u guys think u will have a group buy?

[240shorta]

Now is that 720 per door?? And that would be awesome if there was a group buy

[89coupeD]

i imagine its 720 for the set.

definitely ordering a set.

[ROIDMONKEY]

very sad day.cracked my origin canards :(. Pissed day

[QuickSpoolSR]

lol this sounds like a death wish, but i would take a drivers side door!

[scottie]

Count me in on these as well!

[dirtdiggler666]

make some for the s14 and i will buy them

[SinisterSntra91]

make some for the s14 and i will buy them

:werd: You guys get them for an S14 im down......

[240shorta]

Gb ftw!!!!

[LS240]

Holy shit very happy day indeed! First I see Sakic re-signs with the Avs and now this! I love Origin so much and I was already planning on Origin everything on my car anyways, except I was gonna put Seibon doors on it. But now that Origin has their own lightweight doors I guess they're gonna take even more of my money lol. :keke:

[Firestorm]

FRP is tough as hell. my car has hail damage all over the roof and hood but my aero (origin btw :D ) held up nice, not a single crack!

[grnappletree14]

make some for the s14 and i will buy them

i second that

[axiomatik]

seriously people, don't runs these without a cage. corvettes have side-impact beams. these do not. you get t-boned, and that other car is coming straight through your door.

[TravisSW]

Then put beams in them!

...but they'll probably get lodged in you. Best thing, just do the passengers door and take out the passenger seat! :D

But yeah, no S14 love?

[scottie]

the Corvette reference was for those who think fpr is weak and brittle. I have a cage with door bars.

BTW- Just got off the line with Tougefactory. They are getting together a GB on these for the next shipment! I reserved a pair today. So if u guys ate serious I'd call them and reserve a pair!

[jakethesnake]

good deal for some bad ass doors

[trsilvias13]

11.5lbs v. 65 lbs?

Is that a comparable comparison? Just wanted to have a fair statement when I look into stuff like this. I know some company would say 11.5lb for the fiberglass door ONLY vs. a stock fully accessorized door (window, wiring, motor, switches, interior panels, etc...)

[FusionR240sx]

yea i think that's door to door weight maybe?
and i thought they made s14 doors already... hmmm

yea TF, def interested if you got s14 doors...

i've seen the s13 doors at TF before, and the rear seat cover thingy majigger.

[steve shadows]

Pound for pound FRP is stronger than steel. And does not corrode like steel. And it is easier to repair than steel.

Lb to Lb...

ok

But stronger than steel? :keke:

Test that theory

[yingiang]

I was made a believer when inertiaticism drove over a chargespeed front bumper 3 or 4 times with his jeep, and watching it basically spring back.

i want to see this, make a video? =)

[Kazama1986]

well my friend ordered the ae 86 doors in like march and touge factory hooked up them up with their "prototype" doors they are just amazing. his girlfriend slams the door and they still are still in perfect shape. amazing fitment, i would easier to fit than the seibon carbon hood he has. great guys over at touge factory and they always are super helpful. from what i have heard the s13's door hinges and are going to be the only issue. but my other friend (huffnpuff) has a set of s13 doors on there way. i personally like having metal doors. it rains alot in oregon and the all the prius drivers are super lame and dont know how to drive.

[Row]

Sounds like a good modifiction, but are people willing to sacrifice wieght over their safety.

[KA240SX808]

i second that

+1 :bigok:

[gotta240]

So are they using the factory metal door with a fiberglass skin? Or is EVERYTHING made of fiberglass? Also, where are these numbers coming from?

Sounds almost like they are comparing a loaded factory door to their empty FRP one.

[Brian W.]

So are they using the factory metal door with a fiberglass skin? Or is EVERYTHING made of fiberglass? Also, where are these numbers coming from?

Sounds almost like they are comparing a loaded factory door to their empty FRP one.



its ALL fiberglass. these things are really light.... your factory door is REALLY heavy with the all metal beam in in it and all.


I highly recomend these for any race car.

[scottie]

If you guys want I can weigh both the Origin to a gutted OEM (accessories, switches, window, track and motor removed). This way you can get a good idea of how much they actually compare.

Scott

[FusionR240sx]

If you guys want I can weigh both the Origin to a gutted OEM (accessories, switches, window, track and motor removed). This way you can get a good idea of how much they actually compare.

Scott

of course we would like to see that.

[sub9lulu]

anything for the FC "?

[huffandpuff00]

well my friend ordered the ae 86 doors in like march and touge factory hooked up them up with their "prototype" doors they are just amazing. his girlfriend slams the door and they still are still in perfect shape. amazing fitment, i would easier to fit than the seibon carbon hood he has. great guys over at touge factory and they always are super helpful. from what i have heard the s13's door hinges and are going to be the only issue. but my other friend (huffnpuff) has a set of s13 doors on there way. i personally like having metal doors. it rains alot in oregon and the all the prius drivers are super lame and dont know how to drive.

Yup my doors should be here soon. I either need to fab my s13 hinges or find some s14 ones. so if anyone has s14 hinges they would like to sell, a PM would be greatly appreciated. safety wise, if you have the money for these doors you should be able to cage your car too.

[ilia]

These are sooooo cool! If I had an S chassis I'd be all over them.

[C-unit]

damn..only if they have one on a R32..........

[yojimbo206]

ive seen these doors in person at TF and they're f*in HOTTTTT!!!!!

[scottie]

From the picutures where is the hinge? On the OEM door the base is welded to the door and then you have the pin and the other part of the hinge. Is there a base fiberglassed to this door to place the pin and hinge through it? I cant tell from the picture. I guess I'll find out soon enough lol!

[huffandpuff00]

you need to use s14 hinges, or fab-up your s13 ones. stock s13 hinges are welded to the doors. so just cut them off, drill two holes and weld in bolt studs.

[scottie]

you need to use s14 hinges, or fab-up your s13 ones. stock s13 hinges are welded to the doors. so just cut them off, drill two holes and weld in bolt studs.

Ah cool. I guess i will call Origin then because now Im wondering if their doors are already threaded to bolt the hinges to the doors or will you have to do it all yourself. I wish they would put that on their website.

[huffandpuff00]

im guessing you have to do it all yourself, they are racecar doors.

[Cloud9]

If you guys want I can weigh both the Origin to a gutted OEM (accessories, switches, window, track and motor removed). This way you can get a good idea of how much they actually compare.

Scott

very curious what the weight of a gutted s13 door weighs, cant imagine it would be very much even with the side impact beams. Still a sweet product and i would be down if i had a full track car.

[SlideWell]

cool, but a pain to install just like the seibon (maybe Origin, i forget) doors on the falken S13.5
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/l_ef087a1ce659d0f4ad9023496a988385.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/l_1587efd852144a3038fb75a67e02d343.jpg

[huffandpuff00]

Called Origin on tuesday and doors are in and shipping. should have a set by monday. ill weigh them loaded w/ manual windows and post the weight.

[scottie]

Called Origin on tuesday and doors are in and shipping. should have a set by monday. ill weigh them loaded w/ manual windows and post the weight.


SWEET! You'll save me the trouble of doing it when mine show up Tuesday :bigok:

[IIIXziuR]

HUFF
get some pix and some details about these when you receive them.
I am interested in these. I was just going to cut my stock metal doors to shed weight but these might be a MUCH better idea and not a retarded price either

[huffandpuff00]

no doors today but hoping they'll be here tomorrow.

[scottie]

My doors just arrived!! Woohoo!! Pics up tomorrow.


BTW - Weighed the original doors. Gutted them completely EXCEPT for the stock reinforced bar inside. Since they should be there on street vehicle, i thought it was fair to leave those in. But everything was taken out, including any plastic tab. I want to be as accurate as possible.

Final Weight = 58lbs - 61lbs. The scale was made for feet so if the door wasnt perfect on it the reading would vary. But you get the idea.

[scottie]

Pics:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/door1.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/door5.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/door6.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/door2.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/door4.jpg

Hope this helps people decide whether they want them or not. Its crazy that the window itself is heavier than the door. I will update you all when we go to mount them and how I did the hinges. Right now the plan is to do an aluminum plate backing inside the door before we drill the holes for the hinges. This way the aluminum is going to take the weight of the door at the hinges so no cracking will occur. This is probably not needed but I like to go beyond since you never know when a person might put some of their body weight on a 12lbs door.

Scott

[scottie]

Updated my post with pics! Let me know if you guys have any questions. Couldnt be happier with the doors. Well I do wish they were pre-drilled for hinges. But other than that they are better than expected. Good mold!

[TiNMAN]

what is your car setup for?

road? track?

what was the final price after shipping?

[420sx]

definitely looks like some good stuff. i wanna dip a door

[scottie]

what is your car setup for?

road? track?

what was the final price after shipping?


Street/Strip/Track. It will not be a DD by any stretch of the imagination. I have a full cage with door bars. You MUST USE DOOR BARS!!! I am telling you first hand these doors arent going to stop a anything bigger than a bike.

Scott

[TiNMAN]

final price, if you dont mind?

[scottie]

final price, if you dont mind?

$630.00 Shipped. Enjuku.

[KA240SX808]

60lbs vs 12lbs

Geez

and 630 shipped is pretty amazing......

[huffandpuff00]

I got one door on, sorry I havent posted sooner. I have been busy and not working on my car much. I'll try to put install pics on tomorrow night to show how I made hinges for them.

[Modrified]

thanks for the info scottie. everyone check out scottie's build on freshalloy. very sick.

[dirtdiggler666]

all i got to say is damn s14 :bash::bash:

[Dousan_PG]

yo any udates on this
im curious how these things are
thanks!

[holaback]

I was made a believer when inertiaticism drove over a chargespeed front bumper 3 or 4 times with his jeep, and watching it basically spring back.

lol at bfe boys and lol at people impressed with chargespeed and lol at chargespeed in general

[holaback]

damn..only if they have one on a R32..........

I swear it seems some of you people seem to think the only aerokit companies that are out there are charge speed, bomex, origin, vs, vertex etc.

You know you can open a anything japanese automoative magazine and see HUNDREDS of diff companies making all types of items for your car that u can order. Then with the internet nobody has any excuse to be in the not knowing as far as what else is out there

[holaback]

all i got to say is damn s14 :bash::bash:

Again...its out there just not from this company so far if not later

[Full-Lock]

damn holaback
where you been

miss ya buddy

[holaback]

I been around. Did you do the right thing and keep ur car?

[holaback]

I read ur future mod is

-rear 50mm overfenders

When you do don't run the generic one everyone on zilvia runs get the more gtrish aero palace ones that i ran

http://a396.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/97/l_b0a8a101f908ab71ac2f64074633688b.jpg

It's 30mm tho

[holaback]

bomb.com son

[REVGASM]

saw this in person at Touge Factory today mounted on the car.

SO LIGHT!!!

[KiDyNomiTe]

Yea dave has them on his car, give him a call and he will let you know how they are putting them on. It didn't look fun, but it doesnt take a brain surgeon. I might pick up a pair, I would like to get into the 2400 # range.

[xs240]

so wait 58-60lbs stock right?
12lbs this thing?

Each or both? 48lbs lost per door? Thats 96lbs total...

And 630 shipped?

That's an awesome deal!

[scottie]

Fellas, thanks for keeping up with this. I got new S14 door hinges to mount on the car. Right now my friend is making a template for the inside of the door for extra support. We are going to have 1/4" aluminum cut on a machine to the pattern we make. It will spread the weight of the door with the glass and other stuff put on it. I don't trust FRP to not crack after a lot of use around the hinge area. I'll update you all when it happens. Thanks!

[scottie]

****UPDATE*****

If you guys have been following my build on the Freshalloy board, you know I am not overlooking anything on this chassis. So naturally when it comes to the fiberglass doors I am skeptical when it comes to FRP material withstanding the weight of glass, metal track and speakers that are going back in my doors. Plus for longevity it just seems right to improve the door. If your car is a track only vehicle, you may be fine with just using the door as is, but if you are planning on street use where you will be getting in and out of the car often, it will stress the material eventually.

So to alleviate all of the weight being directed on the fiberglass, I decided some type of backing plate to disperse the force applied by the S14 door hinges. I want to thank a good friend "J" of mine for using this automated cutting table to make such a clean piece. The material is 1/8" 5052 Aluminum for a balance of strength and weight savings.

One Set
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/IMG_0288.jpg

I placed it on outside of door just to show the pattern
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/IMG_0289.jpg

Here it is inside the door. Notice the hole is there so you can retain your electric power windows, locks, speakers.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/IMG_0291.jpg

Last one taken inside door for better view
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/scotheocelot/IMG_0293.jpg

The best way I can tell you to mount it and first figure where you are going to drill the holes for the door on your car. Once you are sure drill the holes in the door first. Then you would place this inside, line up the accessory hole and then mark you hinge holes on the aluminum. Take it back out, drill your holes, put it back in and mount the hinge using grade 8 bolts and nuts. What do you guys think??

Scott

[xs240]

thats excellent work scottie. Surprised no one replied to it. I was searching the forum for these today. Not that im getting them right away however this is definetely on my todolist on my track car...

Any updates? So whats up?

I wouldnt put back real glass... the glass itself its mega heavy... I'd either put a replacment plexiglass or acrylic... with manual mechanism knob... or... plexiglass/acrylic with fixed window (more weight savings) with an opener/closer window like on real track cars/race/stripped models of ferraris/etc...