VQ25DET (Stagia) motor

[racer98]

Has any one played around with one of these motors yet ????

[racepar1]

Has any one played around with one of these motors yet ????


The only stageas that I know of come with rb's.

[nieko]

FAIL... stageas are badass... totally offtopic though

[jrbump]

Good friend of mine has a VQ (idk what size) DET that he bought for his s13. IDK that it will ever make it in there, LOL.

Seems like fun to me if you have the money to do it.

[drift freaq]

Has any one played around with one of these motors yet ????

If your talking about the VQ25 is not stateside legal so why bother. Though I do not believe the VQ25 was ever offered in a Stagea now the RB25DET was.
We have both VQ30's and VQ35's that can be made stateside legal so no sense going down to 25.
Granted I have yet to see someone make a completely legal stateside VQ swap :D but that to shall change :D

[90KAcoupe]

the newer stagea's have vq25de or vq25det's but who cares if the motor is legal state side.. SR's arent either but lets count on here how many people have them..

but i really want one.. and it is a motor that is i could get one i would be willing to spend the money on it. but i doubt u'll get one state side..

[Darius]

Legal?! Who cares unless you live in one of the few states where they still check emissions?

[racepar1]

the newer stagea's have vq25de or vq25det's but who cares if the motor is legal state side.. SR's arent either but lets count on here how many people have them..

but i really want one.. and it is a motor that is i could get one i would be willing to spend the money on it. but i doubt u'll get one state side..

Legal?! Who cares unless you live in one of the few states where they still check emissions?

You guys need to read the writing on the wall. All this emissions "bullshit" is GOING to spread. Before you know it you will have to worry about smog, state referees, exhaust tickets, etc.... This shit is a disease and it WILL spread to your area. You might as well get ahead of the game and wise up to emissions legal swaps. The advantage you will have is that you will get to benefit from the fruit of the cali guys labor. We are scrambling for smog legal power out here and by the time it gets to you we will have already found the solution. I mean look at how many, and how cheap, sr's and sr cars are being sold out of cali right now. This is not a coincidence, it is directly related to the stricter smog laws. EVERYBODY needs to start caring about emissions legal swaps because soon enough we will all be in the same boat.

[racer98]

If your talking about the VQ25 is not stateside legal so why bother. Though I do not believe the VQ25 was ever offered in a Stagea now the RB25DET was.
We have both VQ30's and VQ35's that can be made stateside legal so no sense going down to 25.
Granted I have yet to see someone make a completely legal stateside VQ swap :D but that to shall change :D

Its a turbocharged factory motor for the stagia and most of them are AWD looking for a project for a 350z later, issue is cheap but finding the stagia that has the Vq25DET is few and far between. just want the turbo parts and the intake manifold that is used on it.

Still you make a good point, this set up isnt for resale to the public or selling swaps to the public.....................

the VQ25DET has a lot of improvements and its a high-rev turbo motor so should provide for some fun.................. and with an auto set up.

[racer98]

the newer stagea's have vq25de or vq25det's but who cares if the motor is legal state side.. SR's arent either but lets count on here how many people have them..

but i really want one.. and it is a motor that is i could get one i would be willing to spend the money on it. but i doubt u'll get one state side..

Good friend of mine has a VQ (idk what size) DET that he bought for his s13. IDK that it will ever make it in there, LOL.

Seems like fun to me if you have the money to do it.

+1. 98% of them are VQ25DD motors non turbo the VQ25DET are the stuff to have a lot of fun with, hotter cam and the VQ35HR plenum. its a dual throttle body with a single turbo. Not to mention its a factory turbo. There is one shop in japan that has ROM tune / turbo + injector upgrade. they say 360hp flywheel hp when done. now that is what I want to do with another car project later.

[racer98]

The only stageas that I know of come with rb's.
read some more before commenting about something you don’t have any info on.


[QUOTE=racepar1;2275137]You guys need to read the writing on the wall.
I dont know what is that graffiti on teh wall sez ?


All this emissions "bullshit" is GOING to spread.
Emission laws are there for a reason. can you esplain why they are ?
:mepoke:

Before you know it you will have to worry about smog, state referees, exhaust tickets, etc....
OMFG its the end of the world..............RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!


exhaust tickets, etc....
Why were exhaust tickets started?
I want an expert like you to tell me and explain the origin how it all got started and where and what time it was started..

This shit is a disease
So you want to tell the people who are dieing of cancer and smog related diseases its ok to pollute ?


and it WILL spread to your area.
what about rectal cancer ?


You might as well get ahead of the game and wise up to emissions legal swaps.
That is an art that is dieing out and that

The advantage you will have is that you will get to benefit from the fruit of the cali guys labor.
:wtf:


We are scrambling for
Customers who actually have money....................

smog legal power
:wtf:

out here and by the time it gets to you we will have already found the solution.
Yeah its called leave it stock..................


I mean look at how many, and how cheap, sr's and sr cars are being sold out of cali right now.
The market segment has changed and people want a car that is fun fast and legal, so a lot of people have moved on to cars that are ligit and come with a warranty. you think guys who bought a brand new skyline GT-R are going to drop another $50,000 to cut 1 second off the 0-60 time. NO they are not.
People who want an SR powered S13 is a segment that has completely changed and the market that is different.

This is not a coincidence; it is directly related to the stricter smog laws. EVERYBODY needs to start caring about emissions legal swaps because soon enough we will all be in the same boat.

I think you are throwing darts at the wrong target. Let you figure it out. Time is money.

[SexPanda]

IDK... VQ25DET just sounds... SEXY. A 2.5 litre turbo V6. That just kinda screams Midget Body Builder. Small yet powerful.


DO IT. We'll learn from you my friend. You shall be the guinney pig for all of our entertainment/education.

[racer98]

IDK... VQ25DET just sounds... SEXY. A 2.5 litre turbo V6. That just kinda screams Midget Body Builder. Small yet powerful.


DO IT. We'll learn from you my friend. You shall be the guinney pig for all of our entertainment/education.


I know I will have problems with the harness and ECU on this set up but i found a doner Wagon but............ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


I would like to see what type of other auto trans I can use on this set up. but at the same time just starting the research process.

:mepoke:

[SexPanda]

Good luck. Im starting to do a little research on my own. I figured out it would be cheaper and more reliable if I just dropped a 2JZGTE into my 325is than it would be to supercharge it. So I'm looking into the finer aspects of that.

Again, good luck. I'd love to see that thing in action.

[racer98]

Good luck. Im starting to do a little research on my own. I figured out it would be cheaper and more reliable if I just dropped a 2JZGTE into my 325is than it would be to supercharge it. So I'm looking into the finer aspects of that.

Again, good luck. I'd love to see that thing in action.





any performance mods on any bmw cost $$$$$$$$$$


best bet go with a chaser 2.5 VVTi motor and 5-speed, I belive there is a kit for your car just the harness will be an issue. you have the room to do it...............

[SexPanda]

any performance mods on any bmw cost $$$$$$$$$$


best bet go with a chaser 2.5 VVTi motor and 5-speed, I belive there is a kit for your car just the harness will be an issue. you have the room to do it...............

Shit... As long as its turbo with more that 189 hp I'd be happy. But the 2jzgte has 320, its a 6 speed (iirc) and i can get one for 3500 bucks. Another 2 grand for a shop to put it in, and that right there is 20 more horsepower, a bulletproof bottom end, and tons of potential (along with a kick ass sound) for the same price as a supercharger that gets me up to 300 hp.

lol. Sorry OP. Serious Thread Jackage going on. Anyhow... Hit up Nissan. See if they cant give you the FSM for the Stagea with the 2.5. Its a start at least.

[atom]

If I remember right VQ25 has the same stroke as a VQ30, it's just the bore that's smaller. So if you want a VQ that revs a little better, just get the crank, manifolds, etc. No need to get the whole block.

[racer98]

Shit... As long as its turbo with more that 189 hp I'd be happy. But the 2jzgte has 320, its a 6 speed (iirc) and i can get one for 3500 bucks. Another 2 grand for a shop to put it in, and that right there is 20 more horsepower, a bulletproof bottom end, and tons of potential (along with a kick ass sound) for the same price as a supercharger that gets me up to 300 hp.

lol. Sorry OP. Serious Thread Jackage going on. Anyhow... Hit up Nissan. See if they cant give you the FSM for the Stagea with the 2.5. Its a start at least.

remember keep the the weight down on the motor and if I remember proplery that 2.8 motor you have is a lot lighter then the Toyota motor....... resason being the top half of your 2.8 motor is plastic vs the cast alunimum toyota parts. so need to keep that in mind as well the 2.5 is lighter then the 3.0 + you will have more power and fun with it set up like this !

[racer98]

If I remember right VQ25 has the same stroke as a VQ30, it's just the bore that's smaller. So if you want a VQ that revs a little better, just get the crank, manifolds, etc. No need to get the whole block.

det block is the same but it has beefed up oil passages and under piston squiters and some other really cool stuff as well, now thinking of whch a Vq25with a .40 over and some high compression pistons and some ITB's would make one hell of a High revving 2.6 set up !


still either way play around with nissan's parts box you get some really impressive set up !

[atom]

Cool, never knew the block was that different. But I'm pretty sure VQ35's have the piston squirters.

[racepar1]

read some more before commenting about something you don’t have any info on.


[quote]
I dont know what is that graffiti on teh wall sez ?


.
Emission laws are there for a reason. can you esplain why they are ?
:mepoke:


OMFG its the end of the world..............RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!



Why were exhaust tickets started?
I want an expert like you to tell me and explain the origin how it all got started and where and what time it was started..


So you want to tell the people who are dieing of cancer and smog related diseases its ok to pollute ?



what about rectal cancer ?


.
That is an art that is dieing out and that


:wtf:



Customers who actually have money....................


:wtf:


Yeah its called leave it stock..................


.
The market segment has changed and people want a car that is fun fast and legal, so a lot of people have moved on to cars that are ligit and come with a warranty. you think guys who bought a brand new skyline GT-R are going to drop another $50,000 to cut 1 second off the 0-60 time. NO they are not.
People who want an SR powered S13 is a segment that has completely changed and the market that is different.



I think you are throwing darts at the wrong target. Let you figure it out. Time is money.


WTF is your fucking problem? That post was not directed towards you in ANY way at all! It was directed towards the people scoffing at the idea of smog legal engine swaps. The CARB and engine swap laws are bullshit because they have absolutely nothing to do with emissions AT ALL, they are about money and nothing more. The whole "disease" thing was only used to get my point across that the laws will not stop spreading. As far as I have seen you are not even qualified to wipe your own ass without mommy's help so I really don't know where you get off telling me about how wrong I am about smog laws and carb legal swaps.

[racer98]

WTF is your fucking problem?
Its you and your fucked up bull shit attitude.


That post was not directed towards you in ANY way at all!
Yes, yes it was. you replied in the thread and started a hijack and in many words took it off topic. Did I ask if it was smog legal ? no

It was directed towards the people scoffing at the idea of smog legal engine swaps.
Again, smog is not the issue, and I think you better chill out before you either
-suffer a heart attack..


The CARB and engine swap laws are bullshit because they have absolutely nothing to do with emissions AT ALL
Again completely out of scope of the regluatorys law and its objective and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


they are about money and nothing more.
what isnt.

The whole "disease" thing was only used to get my point across
Really comes off as a person with a chip on his shoulder. sorry.

that the laws will not stop spreading.
Laws are caused by 2 ways
a-people with ignorance.
b-certain people with chips on shoulders.

As far as I have seen you are not even qualified to wipe your own ass without mommy's
Ok tell your mom next time for her to bring over the extra quilted type when she does that for me next time, oh ya bring over the video camera next time can you can video tape it.


help so I really don't know where you get off telling me about how wrong I am about smog laws and carb legal swaps.
You came to a public fourm and put your 2 cents in and you will get you're moneys worth.

Take your vq25 swap and shove it up your fucking ass, along with your attitude-racepar1

hey bring some vasline over lets have a party.

I think the one with an issue and a chip on his shoulder is you and just if you dont have any good input on my thread then just GTFO.

oh and chill out with the negative rep. I think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

never mind you have time to figure it out. and I have been waiting for your reply. so here is mine.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

IMO, you can have whatever motor you want, just don't do anything silly on the road or don't draw too much attention to your car with even the smallest illegal thing. If you don't get pulled over you don't have anything to worry about, so don't get pulled over= probem solved. Now back to subject, awsome idea!!!! +1 for originality

[racer98]

IMO, you can have whatever motor you want, just don't do anything silly on the road or don't draw too much attention to your car with even the smallest illegal thing. If you don't get pulled over you don't have anything to worry about, so don't get pulled over= probem solved. Now back to subject, awsome idea!!!! +1 for originality

no doubt, +1

[racepar1]

Its you and your fucked up bull shit attitude.

I am the one who attacked somebody's post that was not directed at me right?

Yes, yes it was. you replied in the thread and started a hijack and in many words took it off topic. Did I ask if it was smog legal ? no

Really, because the only post that took the thread significantly off topic that I saw was your response to my post.

Again, smog is not the issue, and I think you better chill out before you either
-suffer a heart attack..

You live in cali, smog is DEFINITELY an issue, but I guess you are either too inept or too young to read the writing on the wall.

Again completely out of scope of the regluatorys law and its objective and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

If you are soo smart then educate me rather than posting sarcastic useless crap. I have been doing this for much longer than you have, I have seen and done more than you have, so unless you have an actual argument you have no business telling me about anything.

Really comes off as a person with a chip on his shoulder. sorry.

YOU come off as having a chip on your shoulder because you atacked my post for no reason. Maybe you are pissed at me for something I did to you in the past, whatever.

Laws are caused by 2 ways
a-people with ignorance.
b-certain people with chips on shoulders.

I totally agree with you here.

Ok tell your mom next time for her to bring over the extra quilted type when she does that for me next time, oh ya bring over the video camera next time can you can video tape it.

This is nothing but a pathetic attempt to get a rise out of me and it didn't work. Apparently my statement about how un-qualified you are to tell people how wrong they are about things that you have no experience with did work though.

You came to a public fourm and put your 2 cents in and you will get you're moneys worth.

Actually this is a private forum, not public. If you don't want people to put in their .02 then don't post, it is that simple.

I think the one with an issue and a chip on his shoulder is you and just if you dont have any good input on my thread then just GTFO.

So suggesting a cheaper and probably smog legal alternative is not valuble input then. You live in so-cal, you of all people should be able to appreciate the value of a carb legal swap.

never mind you have time to figure it out. and I have been waiting for your reply. so here is mine.

And I am the one with a chip on my shoulder huh? You attacked my post just to piss me off and eagerly awaited my reply, sounds like a pretty big chip you got there.

[racer98]

[QUOTE]I am the one who attacked somebody's post that was not directed at me right?
You are the one with the histerical pms replys on zilvia, infact I think you are probably one of the most if not hostile and infintile person on zilvia.



Really, because the only post that took the thread significantly off topic that I saw was your response to my post.
Ya, RLY.



You live in cali, smog is DEFINITELY an issue, but I guess you are either too inept or too young to read the writing on the wall.

Why do you keep brining this shit up I didnt start it ask it or want to get involved with it. No such thinng as 100+hp bolt on smog legal and performance unless it comes from the factory with a big price tag or you live out of California. SO again no merrit wasnt asked and there are 3 laws in the State of california and 2 are really enforced and Im not going to mention, the Zilvians who are in the know know whats up and there are the others who sould not be here.......:whip:

in fact you might want to shave your balding head, throw some straight pipes on you're BMW or MBZ , tint your windows black and taillights pitch black so the brake lights dont work, speed up and down the valley streets like a fool and tell people you get 100+hp from your ecu tune and your muffer upgrade :keke:


If you are soo smart then educate me rather than posting sarcastic useless crap. I have been doing this for much longer than you have, I have seen and done more than you have, so unless you have an actual argument you have no business telling me about anything.
I dont want to you can figure it out, you're racpar who is know person who knows it all.


YOU come off as having a chip
You know not really its more of an oatmeal type of chip on my shoulder.

on your shoulder
its called flakes, and its time for some head and shoulders.

because you atacked
you have attacked a lot of people on zilvia and based on your rep replies on me its clearly shows what person has a spark plug up his arse. You might want to use some lock tite if you have a hemariod issue , it works wonders.

my post for no reason.
I think you might be on to something.......................


Maybe you are pissed at me for something I did to you in the past, whatever.
Having sex with my dog is the problem, you need to stop doing that stuff.


I totally agree with you here.
I dont care.



This is nothing but a pathetic attempt to get a rise out of me
Oh, so I am on to something.


and it didn't work.
It did, you replied.


Apparently my statement about how un-qualified
is honestly true....................

you are to tell people how wrong
Who is wrong. I dont care, Im just hear to get a rise out of people. :rawk:

they are about things that you have no experience
no experence is equlivent to a person like your self as to what?

with did work though.
I do have a rash I need some help applicating it..................:eek2:

Actually this is a forum. If you don't want people to put in their .02 then don't post, it is that simple.
Winner.


So suggesting a cheaper and probably smog legal alternative is not valuble input then. You live in so-cal, you of all people should be able to appreciate the value of a carb legal swap.
Wait, what.......................... Smog leagal swap ? :bowrofl::whip:

he said you people..........................:loco:



And I am the one with a chip on my shoulder huh? You attacked my post just to piss me off and eagerly awaited my reply, sounds like a pretty big chip you got there

OMG, this is cool I got a pathetic rise out of racepar1. Sweet ! :keke:

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

http://zilvia.net/f/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gifVQ25DET (Stagia) motor (http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/210128-vq25det-stagia-motor.html#post2276109) 08-27-2008 10:45 PMI just farted.

YAY!!!! I just got negged because someone farted???

[racepar1]

[quote=racepar1;2276311]


You are the one with the histerical pms replys on zilvia, infact I think you are probably one of the most if not hostile and infintile person on zilvia.




Ya, RLY.





Why do you keep brining this shit up I didnt start it ask it or want to get involved with it. No such thinng as 100+hp bolt on smog legal and performance unless it comes from the factory with a big price tag or you live out of California. SO again no merrit wasnt asked and there are 3 laws in the State of california and 2 are really enforced and Im not going to mention, the Zilvians who are in the know know whats up and there are the others who sould not be here.......:whip:

in fact you might want to shave your balding head, throw some straight pipes on you're BMW or MBZ , tint your windows black and taillights pitch black so the brake lights dont work, speed up and down the valley streets like a fool and tell people you get 100+hp from your ecu tune and your muffer upgrade :keke:



I dont want to you can figure it out, you're racpar who is know person who knows it all.



You know not really its more of an oatmeal type of chip on my shoulder.


its called flakes, and its time for some head and shoulders.


you have attacked a lot of people on zilvia and based on your rep replies on me its clearly shows what person has a spark plug up his arse. You might want to use some lock tite if you have a hemariod issue , it works wonders.


I think you might be on to something.......................



Having sex with my dog is the problem, you need to stop doing that stuff.



I dont care.




Oh, so I am on to something.



It did, you replied.



is honestly true....................


Who is wrong. I dont care, Im just hear to get a rise out of people. :rawk:


no experence is equlivent to a person like your self as to what?

.
I do have a rash I need some help applicating it..................:eek2:

.
Winner.



Wait, what.......................... Smog leagal swap ? :bowrofl::whip:

he said you people..........................:loco:





OMG, this is cool I got a pathetic rise out of racepar1. Sweet ! :keke:

You keep responding, but you are saying nothing of value. If you wanna argue present an actual argument please.

[racer98]

You keep responding, but you are saying nothing of value. If you wanna argue present an actual argument please.

Not done untill I get a rise out of ya. Won't be happy untill you throw your laptop or computer into the wall.

stay the f out of my threads.


I hate you.
Get in line, I got 99 problems and you aint one.

Take your vq25 swap and shove it up your fucking ass, along with your attitude-racepar1
Never asked wanted your thoughts if it could but done. I will do what ever the Duck I like to do when I want to do it.

[s13dan]

wow...anyway. i think it would be a very intresting swap. If anyone finds one, post pics and info plz!

[racer98]

wow...anyway. i think it would be a very intresting swap. If anyone finds one, post pics and info plz!

90% same thing as a VQ35 motor turbo location will be an issue. but I really after to see what the plentum looks like, its not a single throttle body either.


I want to do this in a 350z :).

[racepar1]

Not done untill I get a rise out of ya. Won't be happy untill you throw your laptop or computer into the wall.

stay the f out of my threads.

You will not get a rise out of me, I'm not into that ghey shit.

Get in line, I got 99 problems and you aint one.

1-lack of intelligence
2-lack of common sense
3-chip on YOUR shoulder
4-have fantasies about other people having sex with your dog
5-inability to have an intelligent conversation
6-etc.........


Never asked wanted your thoughts if it could but done. I will do what ever the Duck I like to do when I want to do it.

Go for it. I never said it wouldn't be a cool swap. I simply said that it does not make sense, but a lot of cool shit doesn't. This all started when you felt the need to attack my post that was not directed towards you at all. You then felt the need to get even MORE childish, after I attacked your credibility, and went after my mom. Then you proceeded to get even more childish and accused me of "having sex with your dog". What is this gradeschool? Your insults have no effect because they carry no weight behind them. Rather than defending yourself, which is perfectly normal, you resort to childish insults (and unintelligent ones at that).

[racer98]

You will not get a rise out of me, I'm not into that ghey shit.

Yup, you shure are on the verge of exploding................:hyper: yeah really bzy big man. talking trash to peolpe on zilvia so a person who works 6 days a week has all of those post counts on his account :hahano:



1-lack of intelligence
wait is this the part where you shave you're balding head and tint your tail lights black to add 100hp?

2-lack of common sense
Im not the one who drives like an idiort with tinted tail lights. :rofl:


3-chip on YOUR shoulder
you know a moca chip latte would sound good now, does any one have a hook up at starbucks :rawk:

4-have fantasies about other people having sex with your dog
:hyper:told you stop fondling my bish.:duh: mabey I better use a rubber next time

5-inability to have an intelligent conversation
I think your uni-brow might get in the way of that part. waxing does help.


6-etc.........
:hyper::rawk::whip::rofl:


Go for it. I never said it wouldn't be a cool swap.
I dont care what you think, Im not going to go for any thing you say, fuck might as well do a cummings diesel engine swap in my S13 just to piss you off...................:rawk:


I simply said that it does not make sense,
u still just dont -------------what ever.


but a lot of cool shit doesn't.
just go away..........


This all started when you felt the need to attack
:hyper:


my post that was not directed towards you at all.
um...................:axe:


You then felt the need to get even MORE childish
shiz i can get preme on you if you want.

after I attacked your credibility............
shit the last time my credibity was checked the person cashing the check got a bounced check..... :rofl:



and went after my mom.
Milf ?

Then you proceeded to get even more childish
que ?

and accused me of "having sex with your dog".
I told you stop fondling her.....................

What is this gradeschool?
WINNER, and the student of the day is racepar1


Your insults have no effect
yeah , they do you keep replying.

because they carry no weight behind them.
what is the mass rotary behind thermo dynamics ?


Rather than defending yourself
nothing to defend here..................

which is perfectly normal,
just as masterbation as to watch jdm porn.................


you resort to childish insults
still not done yet.

(and unintelligent ones at that)
What's smarter a Monkey, Chimp or a Chump ?


:whip:


you are such an idiot

I dont know any thing but I think you want to play. I'm game.

[Darius]

Thread ruined.
What's with the neg rep racepar1? I don't even get what that does. Do I get kicked off zilvia after my rep goes sour? LOL ghey
:lockd:

[exitspeed]

Holy fuck this thread is a pile-o-shit.

If you have beef, take it to pm's so you don't fuck up a whole thread like this.