How to replace oil seals on turbo?

[kilo64]

Symptoms I'm experiencing currently is THICK Cloud of White/Blue??? smoke coming from my pipe under boost.

This is stock t25 turbo from s13 sr20det blacktop
Upon closer inspection;
Removed intake and Turbo Inlet
Found Puddle of oil nested right in front of shaft at inlet elbow
BOV was spitting oil like a dying scene from horrow movies
Oil in Hotside of IC piping

THERE IS NO SHAFT PLAY

I haven't checked to see if theres oil in the downpipe yet but I'm pretty sure there is

The question is; Where can I buy the oil seals for my turbo?
Is it a job that I could do myself?
Is a specialist required ?
Do I need to disassemble the turbo in any tremendous way for it to require balancing afterwards?

I tried searching but it doesn't seem that people go indepth about oil seals. Everyone just goes "Yeah I'll be upgrading turbo's or I'm buying a new turbo"

Any input is appreciated!

Thanks!

[awesomenick]

I bought a T3 turbo rebuild kit from gpopshop, or something along those lines on ebay. It was okay quality. When I rebuilt mine, I didn't have it balanced, but I think you should have it balanced. Turbochargers are easy to take apart, just keep track of where things go.

[Mister.E]

yo, your car is having the same symptoms mine had when i had the valve cover recirculated to the intake. is yours set up like that? if it is then you may want run one line to an oil catch can and leave the other side of the can unplugged. then just plug the empty hole in the intake. after i did that i didnt have anymore problems whatsoever. your turbo is probably fine unless your exhaust side seals are fucked too.

after you plug everything up and run the catch can you need to clean out all of your intercooler piping and the core, you really dont want oil in there. i would clean the BOV too if i was you.

[kilo64]

If you're talking about the tube that comes out from the valve cover and into the intake then yeah thats the suspect. But the oil isn't from that tube. In fact nothing comes out but air.

All the oil is concentrated on the turbo.

My main question is, where can I find a seal or the seal kit if necessary?

Thanks!

[Mister.E]

If you're talking about the tube that comes out from the valve cover and into the intake then yeah thats the suspect. But the oil isn't from that tube. In fact nothing comes out but air.

that is where you are extremely mistaken my man. i am telling you right now that your car had the EXACT same problem mine did. you have no idea how much oil i get in my catch can from that same exact tube when i am beating the shit out of my car at the track. all that is SUPPOSED to come out of that tube is air, but in fact some SR's also dump a shitload of oil from that tube, especially if you are revving high and your oil is heating up to higher temps. the problem slowed when i switched from Royal Purple 10w-40 to Mobil1 15w-50, but it still exists. i also compression checked my motor and all the cylinders are ~130 across the board. seriously look into that tube as the culprit before you go rebuilding turbo seals.

[Ninjabread]

Don't know if this helps but my catch can filled up completely in 3 months,I was scared because my motor had 165-170 compression all across.

I had a feeling oil wasn't coming from the valve cover, but rather up from the crank case and dumping straight into my catch can, because I did not have that oem baffle / catch tank setup.

http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0205scc_silvia10_zoom.jpg

That black box thing that sits at the back of the motor.

Anyway, I installed one, and it's been about 1 month now and not a drop of oil in my catch can.

[Mister.E]

you talking about the oil separation tank?

i may have to try putting mine back on but i dont think it will fit with the manifold i have on there now. plus the oil does collect in the hose running from the t-fitting to the can and not from the t-fitting to the crankcase. i guess it cant hurt to try if i can in fact put it back on. thanks for the suggestion!

[kilo64]

E Double,

Thanks for the suggestion. Just to reconfirm I'm gonna pull that tube tomorrow away from the intake and see if any oil spits out. So basically what I know is that the oil gets into the intake, gets sucked up by the turbo, shoots into exhaust. Thus causing all my smoke?

I sure hope you are right on the money cause you would save me a shitload of effort in replacing the seals. Can you send or post pics of your catch can set up?

Thanks man

[Mister.E]

E Double,

Thanks for the suggestion. Just to reconfirm I'm gonna pull that tube tomorrow away from the intake and see if any oil spits out. So basically what I know is that the oil gets into the intake, gets sucked up by the turbo, shoots into exhaust. Thus causing all my smoke?

I sure hope you are right on the money cause you would save me a shitload of effort in replacing the seals. Can you send or post pics of your catch can set up?

Thanks man

thats basically spot on man. i didnt have much smoke because most of the oil was flying out of my BOV and spraying all over the fucking engine bay. ill try to get you a pic later, i bout to head out right now and meet a friend.

[kilo64]

hotdamn you just made my day 10x more simpler.

Strange question, if having a little oil out is normal; Wouldn't having soo much oil spitting out be abnormal?

Is something else fucked in the system thats causing soo much oil spillage?

[Mister.E]

i cant explain it really man. around here some SR's do it and some dont. mine just happens to be one of the ones that does. a lot of people say its attributed to blow-by but i compression checked my car and everything checked out good, plus the motor runs like a fucking champ. i do know that dropping my oil temps by adding an oil cooler and switching to a thicker oil (15w-50), did cause the prolem to slow down. it only happens for me when i am romping the fuck out of my car and the oil temp gets to around ~110*C. honestly i dont know what causes it to happen and i cant get a definite answer, but i am trying to do everything in my power to prevent it or at least slow it down.

[fliprayzin240sx]

If hes burning oil and got oil in the compressor too, that pretty much gurantees his turbo is shaaaat. Removing the line wont really do much to his exhaust smoking.

[SleepR 240sx]

I have the same problem, except mine only smokes at hot idle after about 30 seconds. My dad followed me and I took 2nd up to 50 and he said there was no smoke at all. I do have the same problem with oil in my BOV and hot side IC piping. Ran the car tonight with the hose you were talking about disconnected and ran it for a few minutes, revved to about 3k, let it sit at idle and no smoke. Seems like I've found the true problem, as I had thought my oil seals were gone. Any answer as to why it would only do this at idle? Thanks.

[rightcoastimports]

Check your compression bro.. had the same problem on my s13 and one of cylinders was craaap..

But just to make sure my setup is correct.. I have the T on the valve cover.. one side going to the factory can thingy behind the engine and the other is going to a catch can. and the other side of the catch can has a breather. intake has nothing going to it.

[SleepR 240sx]

Couldn't I just put a breather on the valve cover tee and plug the intake shut?

[kilo64]

Do you think my engine sounding like a wrx has anyhting to do with it?

[makulit054]

I have the same problem, except mine only smokes at hot idle after about 30 seconds. My dad followed me and I took 2nd up to 50 and he said there was no smoke at all. I do have the same problem with oil in my BOV and hot side IC piping. Ran the car tonight with the hose you were talking about disconnected and ran it for a few minutes, revved to about 3k, let it sit at idle and no smoke. Seems like I've found the true problem, as I had thought my oil seals were gone. Any answer as to why it would only do this at idle? Thanks.
I have the same problem. Do you have to put a breather filter on the T connector or can you just plug it up?

[Mister.E]

Do you think my engine sounding like a wrx has anyhting to do with it?

probably, oh and i cant find my goddamn oil separation tank so i cant hook my shit up as previously suggested. i fucking fail at life...hopefully i can find one on yahoo auctions

[Mister.E]

If hes burning oil and got oil in the compressor too, that pretty much gurantees his turbo is shaaaat. Removing the line wont really do much to his exhaust smoking.

its possible that the hose is sucking oil and his turbo is shat....but that would just fucking suck