Guy attempts to scam shop out of 16 grand!

[1ZlowZ]

Guy takes his 'moms' car to a shop to get it worked on with all sorts of stuff, paint, turbo n such. The bill is carried up to 16K and he doesn't want to pay and, wants his car back.

ATTN: Joe Dono AKA SCP_Celica SCAMMER - Tampa Racing (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/general-car-chat/504615-attn-joe-dono-aka-scp_celica-scammer.html)

[g6civcx]

I hope he doesn't owe money on the car. Car loan > mechanic's lien, or at least I think so.

[1ZlowZ]

It wasn't his car to begin with, it was his moms. His mom was behind 2 payments. It gets better n better as I read along.

[g6civcx]

It wasn't his car to begin with, it was his moms. His mom was behind 2 payments. It gets better n better as I read along.

That shop is SOL. The lender will repo the car unless the shop can pay off the loan.

[LeftNutOfGowd]

Hahaha this story reminds me of a guy i work with.

He took his mom's car to jiffy lube to get his oil changed and transmission fluid changed as well. And he didn't want to pay for it the bill came out to like 2 grand. They didn't even let him take his cd's and stuff out the car until he payed the bill so he just left it there and got himself a 87 cutless lol

[TravisSW]

I'm sorry, how does an oil and trans fluid change come to 2 grand?

[98koukile]

A mechanics lien would erase the current loan, the problem is the car is worth 5k less than whats owed

[g6civcx]

A mechanics lien would erase the current loan, the problem is the car is worth 5k less than whats owed

Is that how the law works in FL? In my state the mechanic is required to contact the lienholder to work it out. Most likely the lienholder will sue the shop in court and let the judge decide.

Let's hope that the bank either pays the money or let the shop have the car.

[LeftNutOfGowd]

I'm sorry, how does an oil and trans fluid change come to 2 grand?

Psh I dont know he took it in to get it check he said something was up with his transmission it was a 91 honda civic. It was also a auto and he was driving it like if it was stick so they had to take out the transmission and checked it out. But he thought it was just going to need a oil change. Im not 100% sure he took it to jiffy lube it could have been to Midas.

[TheWolf]

I hope he doesn't owe money on the car. Car loan > mechanic's lien, or at least I think so.

nope mechanics lein > car loan

Just got done with a guy who brought in his cummins to get the engine replaced.. melted a piston with one of those banks super controller things... So we pulled the engine, rebuilt it, and reinstalled it.. and the guy would never come get it... turned his phone off and just left... about a week or so later bank of america called wanting to know if we knew where the truck is.. told them what was up and they brought over a cashiers check for the bill and picked it up... they may just write off the car though since he's got a 16k bill on a 6k car.. this was a 6k bill on a 16k truck..

[CA18_S13]

Kid got owned. HAHA. If he could only afford paint why did he order all the engine work and audio stuff. Kid is retarded and a Scammer for days. The threads on that one site keep me weak for days.

[bboyoracle]

I feel bad for his mom. Heart attack in the midst of all this. Who knows if her son caused it. POS son FTL

[Unholy S14]

I feel bad for his mom. Heart attack in the midst of all this. Who knows if her son caused it. POS son FTL

agreed..... :(

[YoungGun]

That shop doesn't sound very professional.

Although it is the kids fault for not paying.

[UfoZ8myCow]

I just wanna know... What fucking shop would do that much work on a car over such a long period of time without getting paid???????

"Like, here's 100 bucks to get you started, can you do $16k worth of other shit? I'll be on by to pick it up later."

Partially the shop's fault. They shouldn't have done all that work without having the kid pay for and cover all the materials they were using at least.

[Unholy S14]

thats what I was thinking too

[singlecamslam]

so they didnt have his signature? thats not good. I got a feeling this dude will get his car back, but only be able to drive 30 feet before a bolt of lighting kills him.

[Unholy S14]

wont the bank take it ? Because he is far behind his payments.

[g6civcx]

nope mechanics lein > car loan

Just got done with a guy who brought in his cummins to get the engine replaced.. melted a piston with one of those banks super controller things... So we pulled the engine, rebuilt it, and reinstalled it.. and the guy would never come get it... turned his phone off and just left... about a week or so later bank of america called wanting to know if we knew where the truck is.. told them what was up and they brought over a cashiers check for the bill and picked it up... they may just write off the car though since he's got a 16k bill on a 6k car.. this was a 6k bill on a 16k truck..

This is complicated. I hope it doesn't go to trial or the shop will lose for sure.

[HyperTek]

http://i37.tinypic.com/2mmx189.jpg

looks like a cracker trying to live the superstreet magazine dream

[s13silady]

this kid is an idiot... i mean to be able to search his name and get a SCAMMER page for the first listing is something.. LOL..Epic fail.

[ayuaddict]

wow, kid fails pretty hard.

a celica of all things.

reminds me of somebody i know.

[kyoru]

what a POS, dude needs a cock meat sandwich from buba.

[g6civcx]

I don't see the mother taking any significant part in this so it will be hard for the shop to get a mechanic's lien.

Either way somebody will lose out on this deal. Either the shop or the bank will lose. There is no winner here.

[A Spec Products]

If I owned a mechanic shop, I'd require payment up front for EVERYTHING

I don't care if its an oil change or a full engine rebuild

It sucks when you see people bite off more than they can chew

That shop isn't really thinking though if they did $16k of work up front without any kind of deposit, or anything

[slw240sx]

a friend of mines shop had this kind of problem with a customer. Customer paid to have some head work and cam install done all went great he paid his bill picked up his car. he was warned that the transmission wouldn't handle the new power levels if he beat on it.
He beat on it broke the trans. He towed the car to the shop had the owner of the shop start work on it by tearing it down, wanted to have his full coverage insurance pay for it. The shop owner told him its a very small chance it will work, customer told him do it any how he can afford it. Well insurance company refused the claim. the job was complete before the word came back. My friend had a 3800.00 work order for his customer. the customer refused to pay it blaming him on the fact that he told his insurance company the truth and not something they would cover. The car went into storage away hiding from the owner for 6months. The customer had his dad use a Union attorney from his work and they sued him for violations of the fair consumers act, he had given a copy of the work order but not a writen estimate and did not have signatures on either paper work. He hired a lawyer a shitty lawyer and he ended up settling and paying the customer 3K. He was endanger of being sued and having to pay out over 20K in damages, his lawyer refused to go further with the case telling hi he will loose it, i could have tried his case better...


I am a similar situation also. but mines not as urgent.

[HyperTek]

dam that sucks.. alot of honest people tryin to make a living and dumbfuck kids who dont wanna pay for shit

[cgtdream]

You know what, that guy just put himself in a very dumb situation...and i dont care what anyone else says about what his bank can/cant do or what anyone says they can cant do...its prolly gonna end up in court

Similar thing happened to me, and the bank was threatning to take it to court with the shop. And no, it wasnt my fault. Either way, the kid is an idiot, and i feel for him mom....hope things work out for him...

btw i guess the rules for a mechanics lien are different for every state.....lol, still the kid is dumb..

[CrimsonRockett]

A fucking Celica?

Are you serious?

A fucking automatic Celica?

Wow...

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

sounds a LOT like someone on here with about 5,000 posts, so everytime I point out that this guy is a fucknut, my post gets deleted.

But I hope this kid gets made an example of.

[sillyvia13]

dang.
ghndpoighv[etr

[RiversideS13]

yeah i think the mechanic should have charge half up front first for each task. it is sad there are so many scammer out there. can someone post the celica's picture? i am wondering what is 16g works looks like. it could be the mechanic over charged too haha

[adrians_s13]

hahaha you gotta be kidding me.

the dumbass shouldnt have been even modifying it if it wasn't paid off...

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

yeah i think the mechanic should have charge half up front first for each task. it is sad there are so many scammer out there. can someone post the celica's picture? i am wondering what is 16g works looks like. it could be the mechanic over charged too haha
yeah, it does look like the mechanic overcharged but it looks like it's some really good work for what that's worth. Some shops feel that they could charge pretty much whatever they want because they feel that the work is worth it. But the car came out really nice as a show car, not my cup of tea though. The car was repainted, a ton of interior mods, AND a turbo kit. If it all came out clean then $16k sounds about right for a shop though.

My bro use to work at audio extreme and they don't have the size shop to lock down cars as much so it's happened a couple times where people see their cars out front and steal it back instead of paying for it. Also, a good buddy of mine had that happen where his shop is at his house. He has all his paperwork and everything proving that he's a legit business but because he runs it out of his mansion of a house, people think they could take advantage of him. I said it earlier that someone on here did this. They charged up a bill of over $8k and stole the car back from his yard. My buddy took him to court but because the motor was swapped, and I guess you need some kind of DMV paperwork to do that to a car, the car stayed with the owner. I really wouldn't be surprised if this kid gets his car back. Some states pretty much are fucked up.

[flip3d]

Lol. He's lucky he doesnt live in Orlando. The PR gangsters would probably drive him around and threaten to kill him like that one guy with the truck.

[SexPanda]

What a tool. You can't trust anyone these days. I've been lucky with all the stuff I bought off the internet.

[brndck]

this is gross. i'm glad its at least blurry so my eyes didn't entirely melt.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2757469933_005c0aca9c.jpg?v=0

[RiversideS13]

whats up with the boobie man in the back? yak

[DriftCat]

Hahaha this story reminds me of a guy i work with.

He took his mom's car to jiffy lube to get his oil changed and transmission fluid changed as well. And he didn't want to pay for it the bill came out to like 2 grand. They didn't even let him take his cd's and stuff out the car until he payed the bill so he just left it there and got himself a 87 cutless lol

hahaha thats an awesome story did he @ least pick the cutlass up for a decent price? like below 2,00? actually I think it'd be funnier if he didn't.

[fliprayzin240sx]

So wonder how long itll take before he jumps on the 240sx band wagon and sign on here...I think the mods should hit up the mods on some of this sites and get a list of this kids banned IP addresses. Last thing we need is this asshole in here...

[SexPanda]

I registered to show my support. Im all down for them selling that car for a charity.

[JRas]

it's truly sad that people in this world are this dumb

joe dono ftl

[DUFFM4N]

both parties are morons...the kid, and the shop

once the cost of the parts/labor exceeded the cost of the car, the shop should have stopped working on it and secured some sort of deposit before continuing...i hope the kid loses the car...but there's no way someone is gonna pay $16k for that car to cover the bill

[mRclARK1]

There was a lot of fail happening on both sides there. Shop and the kid... Both fucking morons. I wouldn't do $16k worth of work without a decent down payment and I'd want proof of financing or ability to pay. IE: Give me a valid credit card number with enough to cover the cost.

I don't see the mother taking any significant part in this so it will be hard for the shop to get a mechanic's lien.

Either way somebody will lose out on this deal. Either the shop or the bank will lose. There is no winner here.

Yeah. Someone is gonna lose a lot of money here no matter what. Especially with the costs of covering the work done to the car are worth more than the loan on the car itself.

[JVD]

Whatever, even if the kid gets the car, he's gonna get a major beat down guaranteed... and his car is most likely gonna get smashed with a bat.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

donated $10. Feel really bad for the shop, honestly.

[17Green]

What in the world was that kid thinking? He actually thinks that he can twist two different stories to two different people (one being his own mother) and get away with it at the end?

I give him a F- for his effort.

[bloodie73]

Lambo doors? :w00t:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/bloodiesamurai/Lambo-Doors-So-Played-Out.jpg

[treken2t87]

Wow, scammers are getting worse and worse everyday. This Joe Dono guy needs to get what he deserves, an old fashioned ass whopping

[heiyuu]

kid wasn't brought up right.

he also took photos off other pple's flickr accounts, cropped out their sigs and put his own on.

no morales, principals, or values whatsoever.

[flip3d]

So wonder how long itll take before he jumps on the 240sx band wagon and sign on here...I think the mods should hit up the mods on some of this sites and get a list of this kids banned IP addresses. Last thing we need is this asshole in here...


He wont be here. He's in jail.

[Unholy S14]

is he really in jail as we speak ?

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

probably only awaiting trial. He's not an immediate threat to anyone so I really don't think he's imprisoned.

[cisco240]

Word gets around quickly. Autoblog got a hold of the story:
16-year-old tries to bilk shop out of $16k job - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/14/carsumer-advocacy-16-year-old-tries-to-bilk-shop-out-of-16k-jo/)

Edit: Just noticed, the freaking car is an automatic. LOL on that.
Shop did do a lot of carbon fiber work on & in the car though.

[SexPanda]

Im bringing this thread back from pg 2...

Because its friday. And according to Joe Dono

"Mark my words, I will have my car back by Friday"

he should be getting his car back today.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Hey everyone, updates are as follows:

All paperwork has been filed with courthouse.

Registered letters of "Notice of Intent to File a Lien" have been mailed to Joe, his Mother Lisa, and the Credit Union.

Lawyer has been contacted

Where we are at right now is that our Lien will take 60 days to go through, at that time we will be able to petition the Credit Union for them to write-off the car as a total loss and sign the title to us, OR, pay the total amount owed PLUS 60 days of storage at $30 a day. That will be the almost $16,000 PLUS $1,800 storage. The storage fee will continue to accrue until a check or title is received.

So long story short, we will probably end up with the car. I doubt the credit union is going to cut a check for $18K+ for a car that they have financed for less than that.

As far as the BBQ, I'm going to start getting that organized over the next couple of days.

I need to know where you guys would prefer it. We can do it at Don Garlit's Museum here in Marion County OR we can do it down in/near Tampa. I would expect a better turn-out in Tampa but I am not aware of where these kinds of events are usually held down there and as such would need help securing a location.
Looks like the proper steps to get the car transfered to the shop's name. Also looks like Joe isn't getting his car back.

[SexPanda]

SCORE!

lol.

[aziankingz]

talk about overpricing.. basically, that kid ripped the shop off trying to rip him off..