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jskateborders
08-06-2008, 01:05 PM
I am watching the news and some 15 year old kid shot his sister because "she was tying up the phone". Two days ago some 12 year old kid shot his mom because they got into an argument. How much do you have to fail as a parent for your kid to shoot you or your family when he doesnt get what he wants? In all seriousness, I see kids scream and cry in public and get whatever they want, maybe if kids learn that they cant get what they want all the time, this shit wouldnt happen. Shits going down hill really fast when kids are killing their family members to get their way.

azndoc
08-06-2008, 01:08 PM
The problem is that parents are afraid to spank their kids these days.

Shit I got the shit beat out of me when I fucked up as a kid.

I never shot anyone from my family.

Sure kitchen knives were pulled and shovels, but not guns.

LeftNutOfGowd
08-06-2008, 01:09 PM
And i bet the parent are going to blame it on the video games like GTA4

PRADOgy
08-06-2008, 01:12 PM
Its probably because the childs mother is actually the the daughter of the conciever, and the grandfather is the babies father 0_o

SexPanda
08-06-2008, 01:13 PM
You know, my parents beat the hell out of me when i fucked up, and I turned out fine. Im not needy, I know the value of a dollar, and I can keep a job.

If more parents got out the belt or something when their kids started fucking up, we wouldnt have to worry about this I dont think.


Oh yeah, my parents didnt "beat" me like the red headed step child, but I remember the first time I got caught saying the F word... And I still wont say it around my mothre. lol.

shmiddy
08-06-2008, 01:15 PM
in brooklyn not to long ago, some kid tryed to set his grandmother on fire cuz she wouldnt let him play out side or something like that. the kid was 5 yrd old!!!!! i feel the same way, kids are getting out of control


lol by the way he got trapped in the appartment and ended up burning up 90% of his body.. grandmother was unharmed

steve_o1989
08-06-2008, 01:16 PM
And i bet the parent are going to blame it on the video games like GTA4

Damn right they will. It will be played off onto the violence of Tv's, video games, and movies. There sure was alot of shoot 'em up movies back in the day (before my day) and you never heard of any of this shit.

Parenting is where the problem lies. Parents that are too worried about being friends with their kids rather than being their parents. I say a good old fashion ass whoopin' would help put some of these little shits in line. If that doesn't work, just shoot 'em. You know they'll do it to you in the long run anyways.

shmiddy
08-06-2008, 01:16 PM
i dont know how many of you zilvians are spanish but im sure you guys remember this
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/sosjuana/Bags-Shoes-Accessories/IMGP0741.jpg
i know i do, and i think i came out pretty good lol

g6civcx
08-06-2008, 02:03 PM
You know, my parents beat the hell out of me when i f** up, and I turned out fine. Im not needy, I know the value of a dollar, and I can keep a job.


You know, I got my azz beat every day. I turned out really screwed up :loco:

I wish they didn't beat me for no reason :angel:

stiizy
08-06-2008, 02:10 PM
The problem is that parents are afraid to spank their kids these days.

Shit I got the shit beat out of me when I fucked up as a kid.



True because everywhere you look they try and take ya kids away for a little discipline

I got fucked up when i was younger

And i bet the parent are going to blame it on the video games like GTA4

There's always a scapegoat

oh he was watching batman and he was using ninja star things that why my kid was throwing knives at school??

:jerkit::jerkit: Get the fuck outta here people are so over-dramatic

i dont know how many of you zilvians are spanish but im sure you guys remember this
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/sosjuana/Bags-Shoes-Accessories/IMGP0741.jpg
i know i do, and i think i came out pretty good lol


That and fucking Chonklas and the phone cord:spank::spank:

azndummie
08-06-2008, 02:15 PM
beatings only make the kids even more rebelious, shitty parenting is what is causing those fucking kids to be wild

ZX88
08-06-2008, 02:18 PM
beatings only make the kids even more rebelious, shitty parenting is what is causing those fucking kids to be wild

true. poeple these days dont stand up to there kids anymore you need to show them whose boss verbaly not physically.

stiizy
08-06-2008, 02:21 PM
^^ yeah but some kids deserve a fuckin beating specially the ones who think they run shit

DOOK
08-06-2008, 02:44 PM
spanky a child and beating a child are different things boy and girls.

murda-c
08-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Spanking is the one with knuckles to the throat right?

g6civcx
08-06-2008, 02:57 PM
spanky a child and beating a child are different things boy and girls.

I don't know what the difference is. All I know is that I got scars on my back.

BlckBeautyVTEC
08-06-2008, 03:06 PM
Spanking is the one with knuckles to the throat right?

lol i guess thats the perks have having foreign parents they know how to lay the law down, i guess i turned out ok

C. Senor
08-06-2008, 03:51 PM
there definitely is a difference between beating and "hitting" in punishment. but there is a very severe lack of discipline these days. there are a lot of parents that dont like that method and many that are scared of people thinking they are child abusers. i know i got hit when i was a kid when i did something extremely stupid and i didnt turn out half bad. but it was also mixed in with talk and reason. and that's what missing. parents talk and then do nothing, or they just hit and say nothing. doesnt really work that way. sucks that its like that now, but you really cant just go around hitting people's kids. or can you?

murda-c
08-06-2008, 04:13 PM
i got spanked when i was little, not alot, because i didn't like it.

though you must also reward good behavior, punishment alone will make your kids hate you if they're pussies.

Mi Beardo es Loco
08-06-2008, 04:19 PM
I literally just left a Vons where a fat bitch was in line and her 4/5 year old little daughter came up holding a box of veriaty chips. The mom tells the little girl, "what the fuck? Put that shit away! Don't you know I can't carry that shit you stupid fuck!" She yells this and the whole store turned around. I can't imagine how that little girl will turn out. I imagine at around 12 or 13 a 30 year old pedo will show her a little attention and she'll be prego's by 14 and her little bastard child will rob my son. You just watch. Shit rolls downhill really fast.

status:one
08-06-2008, 04:40 PM
Sickens me .

spoolandslide
08-06-2008, 05:36 PM
in any relationship, communication is key

if a parent can communicate to their child that shooting people is bad then they wont do it
if a parent can communicate to their child that please and thank-yous are good then they will say that

the same goes for everything else

if you can communicate to a girl that you would like to do things to her then it will happen, if your good at it then it will happen sooner than later :naughty:

DALAZ_68
08-06-2008, 05:39 PM
i dont know how many of you zilvians are spanish but im sure you guys remember this
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/sosjuana/Bags-Shoes-Accessories/IMGP0741.jpg
i know i do, and i think i came out pretty good lol
i dont remember that...what i remember was the baby branch from the tree stripped of leaves :ugh: now that shit hurt...

or un warache to the ass too

flip3d
08-06-2008, 05:41 PM
He'll regret it when he's getting ass raped in the prison shower by Bubba.

Mr.S14
08-06-2008, 05:46 PM
That and fucking Chonklas and the phone cord:spank::spank:

Fuck so far no onegot ass spanking with the clothes hanger lol
just me huh ouch

raz0rbladez909
08-06-2008, 05:52 PM
all the more reason for me not to have kids, not that i wouldn't be able to raise him right, but because kids like this will be in school along side my kid waiting to columbine any second. Every kid deserves a good smack on the behind thats how you learn, if it hurts you don't do it (like when little johnny keeps trying to touch the hot stove eventually he'll learn that a hot stove doesn't feel to good) no reason to beat a kid senseless but a smack on the ass isn't gonna hurt anything too much people telling us whats right and whats wrong. my aunt and uncle used to read all those stupid parenting books
about how to raise your kids and her kids are both fuck ups, parental instinct comes natural and if it doesn't you probably shouldn't be having kids.

TiNMAN
08-06-2008, 06:04 PM
there needs to be a test or some kind of licensing to have a kid

+ genocide on all people with IQ's lower than 100

murda-c
08-06-2008, 06:08 PM
genocide on all people with IQ's lower than 100

aw sweet hitlers back and ready for action.

awesome. awesome to the max.

seig heil

ericcastro
08-06-2008, 06:42 PM
You dont need to be physical with a child to teach them to listen.
thats just dumb. they are a children, your smarter and more experienced, stop being lazy, and use your brain, not your hand.

I think it comes down to several things.

Lazy parents/ having both parents out of the house working just to support a family
(it wasnt like that 20 years ago, you could support a family on one parent income.)

single parents
(when the only parent has to work, the baby sitters not gonna teach the kid anything)

Media
(with the internets, you get to actually hear about all the horriable shit that goes on everywhere. 10 years ago this shit was going on, 500 years ago this shit was going on. Its not new, Its Yahoo news and Fox news and that crazy blonde lady on TV fighting for viewers)


Population
(as the world gets bigger, the percentage of mentally ill children stays the same, but since the world grows, theres more of them.)

Clothing
(yes, dont give your children shirts that say, "its all about me", "princess" and shit like this. that kind of self intitlement issues are gonna make parenting harder as your child hits the preteen age. Noone wants to deal with a little brat.)

Instant Gratification
(children now days get what they want, when they want. wanna watch your program, TIVO/YOUTUBE/ITUNES. wanna eat, Fast food/7-11/lunchables/microwave. wanna talk to a friend, cell phone in your pocket. No wonder kids freak the fuck out when they dont get something they want. its a foriegn concept to them.)

For those of you who havent raised a child, its all talk till your there. Hitting a child isnt the answer.

BTW,

You older guys like myself remember all the kids that disapeared from middle school and high school because they went to the loony bin. Remember those kids that tried to fight the teacher and shit, pulled a knife on the principle, went to juvie for fighting thier dad and hitting thier mom.
Its not a new thing "these days".

dont be fooled. The Media is worthless. Go onto youtube, and look up news stories from 10 years ago, just random stuff. then 20 years ago. You will be discusted that they are reporting the same shit!!!!! they acted like it was new in the 80's, and they do the same now.

i think Will Ferrels portrayal of Ron Burgandy was alot more real than we think. ;)



And yes Jack/AZNDOC, this is another Dr.Phil moment brought to you by Castro

cgtdream
08-06-2008, 06:55 PM
i dont remember that...what i remember was the baby branch from the tree stripped of leaves :ugh: now that shit hurt...

or un warache to the ass too


+1 on that...dont know about a belt, but switches (for us country folk) and power cords wernt anything to mess with....

DohcKA
08-06-2008, 08:06 PM
savage breeds

1on1
08-06-2008, 08:24 PM
Russell Peter said, "White people, beat your kids!"

eastcoastS14
08-06-2008, 08:30 PM
never been hit ever....still always listened to my parents, definitely more than a lot of kids did. I dont think violence towards children is necessarily the answer as much as instilling a sense of authority is. My parents were just always the bosses and thats just the way it was..and still is, lol Im 21 and when Im home I still end up doing what my parents tell me for the most part...also the fact that Im an only child probably helps the fact that I never killed a sibling lol, could have killed my cousins I guess tho lol

BOROSUN
08-06-2008, 08:33 PM
knife fights are the best.

UfoZ8myCow
08-06-2008, 09:36 PM
I got the shit kicked out of me when I fucked up as a kid. I turned out alright.

There was the time I shot a guy though.

But that was in Iraq. And it was part of my job description.

S13_Nightkid
08-06-2008, 09:41 PM
mmm, belt,tree branch, electrical cord, and hand/fist. Weapons of choice for my rents lol. I turned out fine. I remember when I was 15 and i told my mom that i didnt feel like doing chores and she punched me in the chest.

240drifter1
08-06-2008, 09:43 PM
There was the time I shot a guy though.

But that was in Iraq. And it was part of my job description.

Iwas like wtf, then I read more and started laughing. lol.


IDK how many of you worked in a grocery store for your first job, but in there, you will see how parents are. Telling there kid to shut the fuck up, or spoiling the shit out of them.

illvialuver
08-06-2008, 09:48 PM
if your kids respect them you dont have to beat them.
allot of parents fuck up because they dont lead by example.
that do as i say and not as i do is a bullshit rule for parenting..

The ROMAN
08-06-2008, 10:32 PM
Who cares really?? Everything is so messed up these days, it's a lot easier if you just laugh at ridiculous/dumb people, parents or kids. Just hope you don't have to interact with them and they can continue on with their miserable lives. You can get angry but the reality is you can't save anyone but yourself.

Although if I was going to have a kid, I think the best environment for one is to have a tough (but controlled obviously) father, with a "spoiling" mother. That way the kid is not deprived and thus gains some self-esteem, but also is kept under control and learns boundaries at the same time.

DRavenS13
08-06-2008, 10:42 PM
If you're raising your kids correctly, you don't even need to hit them a lot of the time.

You hit them once. GOOD.

After that, the threat of getting their ass kicked will always be in mind when they think about stupid things.

If they forget, then you remind them.

No one wants to take the time to raise their kids anymore. A lot of people have them just because it's one more thing to add to your already-worthless life.

Don't Have Them If You Won't Raise Them.

/thread

SexPanda
08-06-2008, 11:03 PM
If you're raising your kids correctly, you don't even need to hit them a lot of the time.

You hit them once. GOOD.

After that, the threat of getting their ass kicked will always be in mind when they think about stupid things.

If they forget, then you remind them.

No one wants to take the time to raise their kids anymore. A lot of people have them just because it's one more thing to add to your already-worthless life.

Don't Have Them If You Won't Raise Them.

/thread

Your kids are going to turn out fine. See, thats what kids need. I see little 12 year old johnny throwing a fit in a restaurant because he didnt get ice cream, and his parents A dont do shit or B give him icecream. Take that kid to the bathroom, and when he comes out, he'll be quite.
+1.

deolio
08-06-2008, 11:09 PM
the second thing i will do to my kids when they're born will be to slap them across the face.(the first would be a hug/kiss)

i would never do that, but i sound tuff don't i?

i'm never going to give my kids toys just to shut them up when they're screaming and crying. that's why jesus invented bose acoustic noise canceling headphones... my kids are going to hate me...

SexPanda
08-06-2008, 11:32 PM
the second thing i will do to my kids when they're born will be to slap them across the face.(the first would be a hug/kiss)

i would never do that, but i sound tuff don't i?

i'm never going to give my kids toys just to shut them up when they're screaming and crying. that's why jesus invented bose acoustic noise canceling headphones... my kids are going to hate me...

lol wtf... +1 for you my friend.

Bubbles
08-07-2008, 12:11 AM
lol by the way he got trapped in the appartment and ended up burning up 90% of his body.. grandmother was unharmed


Ha ha.



OWNED.

240=180
08-07-2008, 12:17 AM
shit anybody that has filipino parents already knows wassup lol

sr20alex
08-07-2008, 12:52 AM
same with thai dad's holy shet that asshole is crazy he use to beat the shet out of me for no reason. The worst he ever did to me was put a knife to my throat for not washing the effing gosh dam dishes seriously i wish i was joking. till recently i got pissed and started talking back to him felt hella good he just repeats the same crap. but he threaten me that somethings gonna happen in two weeks nothing happen so far.. mm 17 yrs old im a good boy though :D

miravete
08-07-2008, 01:14 AM
i dont know how many of you zilvians are spanish but im sure you guys remember this
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/sosjuana/Bags-Shoes-Accessories/IMGP0741.jpg
i know i do, and i think i came out pretty good lol


i remember that....shit, my dad makes a move to his belt, and i run like a lil girl and hide in my closet...:keke:

downshift_sideways
08-07-2008, 01:35 AM
I don't know about ya'll.

but whenever I did something wrong..my mom would hit me with whatever was the closest thing to her hands.

Most of the time..she had a paddle with holes in it..Something like this...Oh..and she used to wet it.

I learned my lesson from there on up.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm193/PlayhardUSA/ThePaddle.jpg

dolphin
08-07-2008, 02:00 AM
shit kids these days are lucky!!!!! but some family i know still whoop there kids i wouldn't feel sorry for them cause iw ent through it... when i was a kid when my mom found out from the teacher i talked a lot today in class... mannnnn that is an all day beating!!!!! no joke!! i would come home and get whooop and she wouldn't stop i dont' consider it abuse she was just setting me straight and im 21 now and i love my mom to death my dad only beat my ass hwen i did something stupid hahaha and il ove him to death also.... i love it when parents give there sons/daughter a spanking make them appriciate life more... everytime at work i see bunch of kids crying... and the mom just ignore it or give it to them... i hate it...

Vision Garage
08-07-2008, 02:27 AM
If you dont have 18 years to spare, STRAP TWICE! Damn parents these days arent really parents. If you arent ready for kids, then practice Safe Sex! Nothing is worse than Mother who still thinks she can go out and leave her kid with the grandparents every day.

DALAZ_68
08-07-2008, 08:26 AM
there needs to be a test or some kind of licensing to have a kid

+ genocide on all people with IQ's lower than 100 aye cmon now.....












we still need people to manage Mcdonalds and other fast food joints...





seriously though...i noticed something...



since jan till last month we had som of my moms family stayin with us, my mute aunt and her 4 yr old demon spawn...this kid would literally throw tantrums every fucken 10mins....almost clockwork...

the one thing that i remember, is that when the ice cream truck would come down the street, she would hear it, and want some, we say no, bam instant trantrum and screaming...


thank goodness shes not here anymore, but i know my lil 1 1/2 yr old nephew picked up on her behavior and started doing the same tantrum shit like her, i put a sdtop to it by enforcing No's on him and carrying him from the front of the house to the back were u cant hear it, but u can see what i mean...how easy kids pick this shit up...i could care less about that lil shit of my auntie...she almost corupted my nephew...hes back to his normal good behaving self...and im plannign on getting him his first gokart when he turns 2...


Hes gonna be a contendah!

LeftNutOfGowd
08-07-2008, 08:45 AM
i dont know how many of you zilvians are spanish but im sure you guys remember this
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/sosjuana/Bags-Shoes-Accessories/IMGP0741.jpg
i know i do, and i think i came out pretty good lol

Awh memorys

Firestorm
08-07-2008, 08:57 AM
i got the shit slapped outta me when i was a kid. hell, my dad almost killed my when i was 18 and i bought my first S13...

however, although i was the ego-shooter playing teen, and thinking about killing my dad or hoping for my dad to die from a heart attack or a car accident were common thoughts, i would never really do it, i would probably even cry on his funeral because even though he is a mean bastard, he's still my dad.

i have a friend who raises her 2 girls on her own and her kids are chill as fuck, they almost never cry except when they get injured, they're not the type to go crazy when they don't get what they want, can accept a no and don't turn into crying sirens. they're 6 and 3 btw. and they never recieved a beating in their entire life. if you ask me, they could become decent persons. that's the way people should raise their kids.

stiizy
08-07-2008, 09:07 AM
Dude i remember one time when i was like 13 and in my rebel bad ass days i tried to swing back at my dad

oohhhww big mistake he's an ex SEAL yo i never been layed out like that in my life

SW20Racer
08-07-2008, 09:09 AM
10 years ago this shit was going on, 500 years ago this shit was going on. Its not new, Its Yahoo news and Fox news and that crazy blonde lady on TV fighting for viewers

THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.

i remember this from school.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 (NIV)

what has been will be again
what has been done will be done again
there is nothing new under the sun.

shit, cain killed his brother to get what he wanted.



up to the age of 18 i lived with an abusive parent and i still turned out alright i think. sometimes theres a few people who dont get my jokes and get offended so maybe im a little warped...

but i know the difference between right&wrong, i have a strong work ethic, and hygene is important to me, so i think im gonna make it...

S13SilviaGirl
08-07-2008, 10:14 AM
I have a relative that gives in to her daughter constantly, I keep telling her "Your daughter is not gonna do a dam thing you tell her to when she is older" but that hasnt stopped the constantly giving into her kid....I hate it. She tells her daughter 5-6 times "put your shoes on hunny, we need to go" 2 hours later Kevin steps in and says "didn't your mom tell you to put your shoes on?" she has em on in 5 minutes!

mRclARK1
08-07-2008, 10:42 AM
spanky a child and beating a child are different things boy and girls.

:werd:

Punishment teaches a child to respect you, but not fear you. Abuse does just the opposite. Most problems come from not doing enough to punish or discipline a child, but just as much comes from abusing a child.

A lot of it comes down to personality of the child to. Some kids grow up fine in a poor home, some grow up like shit in a great home.

Future240
08-07-2008, 12:50 PM
I literally just left a Vons where a fat bitch was in line and her 4/5 year old little daughter came up holding a box of veriaty chips. The mom tells the little girl, "what the fuck? Put that shit away! Don't you know I can't carry that shit you stupid fuck!" She yells this and the whole store turned around. I can't imagine how that little girl will turn out. I imagine at around 12 or 13 a 30 year old pedo will show her a little attention and she'll be prego's by 14 and her little bastard child will rob my son. You just watch. Shit rolls downhill really fast.

My ex roomate was like that, soemtimes when she was on the phone her 2 year old daughter would come up to her and I would hear her yell "leave me alone, you gettin on my fuckin nervers, ugh I am tired of this shit"

I wanted to make her swallow her teeth everytime I heard her say that

thejapino
08-08-2008, 12:06 AM
shit anybody that has filipino parents already knows wassup lol

Haha, Kneel on the rice boy! KNEEL ON IT!!!

xpertsnowcarver
08-08-2008, 01:04 AM
dang, belts and paddles?? i had my mom damn chanclas all over my cheeks when i f*cked up... hahaha.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41jeVqoQQDL._AA280_.jpg

thou painful, they were loving caring spanks........ i guess..
i think im overall normal so im thankful.

+1 spankin (followed by explanation on why and affection). -1 beating and terrible negative language (just ain't right..)

Phlip
08-09-2008, 12:43 PM
Never got the shoes...
Belts and switches were the order of the day.
I don't think I was abused... I was bored as shit and, therefore, stubborn as fuck as a means of entertaining myself (middle child syndrome). In such, I was often disruptive and very much a fuckup in the name of marching to the beat of my own drummer. I got my ass beat, it was never for no reason.
I am better for it now, and I while my nephews see me as a bit of a hardass, they see exactly why when it is all explained. I don't have kids of my own and current plans do not see that taking place.

driven_
08-09-2008, 09:24 PM
quoted from russell peters: (or it goes something like this)

"if youre white, your parents will send you to time out/your room,

if youre a foreign kid, more than likely, your parents will hit you with the closest object"

and, yeah, shit happens.

jdm538girl
08-09-2008, 11:07 PM
even as a girls..my sister and i got spanked when we were little. my parents stopped the whole spanking thing with my 2nd sister and you could totally see the difference with how my younger sister and brother came out. my younger sister is completely rebellious and has no respect for my parents my brother stays out all day. i wish i could give them a spanking sometimes. it really is all about the parenting..spanking doesn't have to be a must but discipline should be.