S13, S14 JDM replica conversions

[Project.JDM]

I`ve been working on this for a while, and have everything lined up to make replica conversions, but I wanted to know what everyone felt about that.

I have a company in Japan that can make FRP kits (bumpers, fenders), really high quality FRP. I have another company in Taiwan (Im not from Taiwan, but my name is Tai) that can make PUR (polyurethane) bumpers, replica headlights, turn signals and stuff. Ive ordered Civic Type R FD2 bumpers from them before and its good quality.

The reason Im bringing this up is because its getting more difficult to get these parts from Japan. Im willing to invest in this but I want to know what are some opinions on replica conversions. The prices for this would be alot cheaper and I would be able to stock these parts in the US so that shipping will be alot faster and cheaper.

PUR bumpers are a min 40 count to make, so I would need pre-orders before making. Anyone willing to pre-order Im willing to give you a really good deal. The fenders would be FRP. The only thing I cant get for cheap is metal hoods, the moulds for the hoods are expensive, but I can get FRP hoods or Carbon fibers hoods made.

Let me know what you guys think.

[rb25crazy]

i like polyurethane! what can you get for s14 koukis =D i'm down for one if it's around 200. and the fitment has to be oem quality or i wouldn't get it. that's just something you should be looking at.

[xkamikazestormx]

i like polyurethane! what can you get for s14 koukis =D i'm down for one if it's around 200. and the fitment has to be oem quality or i wouldn't get it. that's just something you should be looking at.

dude. west covina has OEM bumpers for like 230 ...

[Project.JDM]

dude. west covina has OEM bumpers for like 230 ...

Are they new or used? sounds used, and what kind of shape are they in.
What models? How many do they have in stock?

Most people can get a hold of a few bumpers. I must have had over 30 request for bumpers in the last week.

If I was to make PUR bumpers it would be equal to OEM, something Id put on my car, and Im really picky. Price would be about $200-250 NEW

[pr0ject TRUENO]

theyre new at west covina

[Project.JDM]

i like polyurethane! what can you get for s14 koukis =D i'm down for one if it's around 200. and the fitment has to be oem quality or i wouldn't get it. that's just something you should be looking at.

Yea, good point. As far as fitment, they will be identical to the originals, as far as quality, in my opinion from the Civic bumpers I bought, they are stronger than OEM. I had a front lip twisted for a week, and when I untwisted it, it went right back to its original shape.

[xkamikazestormx]

Are they new or used? sounds used, and what kind of shape are they in.
What models? How many do they have in stock?

Most people can get a hold of a few bumpers. I must have had over 30 request for bumpers in the last week.

If I was to make PUR bumpers it would be equal to OEM, something Id put on my car, and Im really picky. Price would be about $200-250 NEW

they are BRAND NEW.

check them out.

The Nismo Shop :: West Covina Nissan (http://www.thenismoshop.com)

[s13 @ fullboost]

you for sure need to Have OEM fitment and if the price is right I would for sure buy from you. Start selling and making a reputable name for your self and hopefully you will blow up big. the best of luck to you and it sounds like a good idea =]

[Project.JDM]

theyre new at west covina

are they Polyurethane or FRP, I can get Fiberglass made for cheaper than $230.

[xkamikazestormx]

for $250 id rather get original nissan stuff

[Project.JDM]

you for sure need to Have OEM fitment and if the price is right I would for sure buy from you. Start selling and making a reputable name for your self and hopefully you will blow up big. the best of luck to you and it sounds like a good idea =]

Thanks for your support. My biggest concern is fitment also. I will have a front clip to test these parts one also. I`m not trying to sell anything I wouldnt put on my car.

[Project.JDM]

for $250 id rather get original nissan stuff

On occasion Ive seen S13 bumpers for sell for about $250 used, in not so great shape. Keep in mind your spending $250 for a polyurethane bumper, not FRP. I dont think its expensive at all.

[xkamikazestormx]

im not saying its expensive. its just you can pick up a OEM bumper that gurantees (sp) perfect fitment for the price your going to sell it for.

on the other hand, sideskirts are like $500 so for $250 thats not bad.

and s13 bumper for $250 used? where do you find those prices.

[Teddy]

On occasion Ive seen S13 bumpers for sell for about $250 used, in not so great shape. Keep in mind your spending $250 for a polyurethane bumper, not FRP. I dont think its expensive at all.

S13 bumpers go for like $100 on zilvia in decent shape any day.

[90KAcoupe]

i would say if ur gonna make replica parts do things like oem side skirts.. s14 zenki navan parts. the stuff thats kinda hard to find in polyurethane

[hustlervibes]

Seriously, used bumper for $250? We're not buying type-r parts and get raped on pricing.

[thejapino]

Start by making any of those overpriced OEM parts like someone said.

S13 coupe rear valances
S14 kouki optional JDM (or USDM) front lip
S14 zenki navan front bumper
S13 180sx kouki optional JDM front lip
etc, etc,

[Project.JDM]

If i had a chance to buy a NEW part for less then a used part, Id go new all the way. I used $250 out there as an example. I could buy replica USDM hoods for like $80 bucks (Ive ordered a few like 6 years ago).

I would be mass producing these parts so the price would definetly be cheaper than most. You`ll always have someone who bought a used bumper who no longer wants it and is willing to part with it for cheap.

Im not only talking about S13 bumpers, again that was just an example. I want to make all replica parts, and wanted to get peoples opinions on replicas vs OEM. Basically are people buying JDM parts because of its authenticity or because of the style.

[pr0tus]

alright, I know this isn't exactly what your talking about doing but it seems like you might have the connections to make it happen. s13 kouki tails are going for almost $500 new and the demand is crazy for them. People have no problem getting $400 for a used set. If you search through ebay, you'll see sets of altezzas going for $150-200 shipped. The altezzas are even based off the kouki taillight shape, if they would have just put the red lens on them they would have been good to go. If you could get a factory to make copies of the OEM kouki tails for under $300 shipped, and decent quality, they would sell for sure.

[Project.JDM]

alright, I know this isn't exactly what your talking about doing but it seems like you might have the connections to make it happen. s13 kouki tails are going for almost $500 new and the demand is crazy for them. People have no problem getting $400 for a used set. If you search through ebay, you'll see sets of altezzas going for $150-200 shipped. The altezzas are even based off the kouki taillight shape, if they would have just put the red lens on them they would have been good to go. If you could get a factory to make copies of the OEM kouki tails for under $300 shipped, and decent quality, they would sell for sure.

Ill look in to that. I guarantee if made it would be less that $300. Thanks for the input.

Another question I wanted to throw up, what do people feel about FRP hoods.

[S13shaka]

OEM quality and OEM urethane is the only way you're gonna sell OEM style body parts, nobody would buy FRP made OEM stuff.

FRP hoods would sell though

[wow-thats-a-cool-car]

you should make think polyurethane fenders so when i hit a cone on the track it will not dent?

[fbiphil]

Look into s13 aero bumpers, side skirts, pignose lips, rear valances... like stated above, don't bother with the common stuff- it's all still pretty plentiful used and in decent shape, so not many people would pay a premium for new, imo.


But if you could offer a piggie lip for around $60-80 new, you'd sell out of 'em in a hurry!! I'd order a couple just to hang onto!

[Project.JDM]

Look into s13 aero bumpers, side skirts, pignose lips, rear valances... like stated above, don't bother with the common stuff- it's all still pretty plentiful used and in decent shape, so not many people would pay a premium for new, imo.


But if you could offer a piggie lip for around $60-80 new, you'd sell out of 'em in a hurry!! I'd order a couple just to hang onto!

Im not trying to tax people the parts. Im trying to make this really affordable. When you refer to the piggie lip, your talking about the front lip spoiler? I can get those made for really cheap. Ill look in to that. Im already having alot of the parts mentioned here quoted. Ill let you know what prices would be like really soon.

also is this the rear valence for the S13?
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/90929/S13%20valence.jpg (http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/26/90929/S13%20valence.jpg)

[legacy927]

how about replicas on oem look s15 front bumpers and oem look s15 fenders...

[fbiphil]

Yes, the USDM s13 zenki lip. They are something like $230 new through the dealer, and all of the used ones are cracked up and scuffed and sell for around 60-100. They're pretty hard to find, so it seems like you'd have an easy time selling them.

Those are the rear skirts/ valances. I believe there are two models- coupe and hatch- but can somebody else confirm that? If you could make an aftermarket set that isn't wavy, along with some jdm skirts, I think you'd have a market for them.

Good luck!

[Neejay]

you should make think polyurethane fenders so when i hit a cone on the track it will not dent?

+1. I'm scared to have fiberglass fenders and bumpers.

[240trainee]

Make silvia aero bumpers.

[Silverbullet]

looks like u made it home to Richmond trainee.

projectJDM, i'd really be interested in OEM style S14 aero. I have noticed those are harder to find, espeically the Kouki front lip.

[trsilvias13]

If you have zenki s14 skirts, let me know.

[MrFairlady]

S13 Aero bumper (in Ureathane or FIberglass) and you'll be RICH I tell you!

Also some 180sx Kouki side skirts..those will sell espically in

I want an 180sx IKEYA Formula Type II front bumper Replica please thats under $600

[Teddy]

S13 Aero Bumper
S13 Coupe Rear Valences
S13 Chuki sideskirts would be nice too.

[axiomatik]

your best bet is s13 aero bumpers and rear valences, since they are out of production and sell for big bucks used (used aero bumpers typically go for $400-600). S14 stuff is still in production and, as mentioned, available for cheap through some dealers. I believe kouki 180sx stuff is also available pretty cheaply through the dealer still.

[aoiken3]

yeah projectJDM. you get those s13/180sx parts made n a lot of people(including myself) will have cash in hand faster than ken gushi can get his driver's license held. i would personally love the s13 areo bumper, kouki skirts, hatch rear valences, and the kouki tails. and to answer your question about authenticity vs style, my opinion is stylish parts that match up to oem fitment and durability or better. they dont have to be authentic. thats just me tho.

[Project.JDM]

+1. I'm scared to have fiberglass fenders and bumpers.

Ive never heard of PUR fenders, but I guess if saturn can make PUR doors why not. All PUR products need a min order of 40, so I`ll need a +1 40 times to really consider this. It sounds like a great idea though. What do other people think about this.

[Project.JDM]

yeah projectJDM. you get those s13/180sx parts made n a lot of people(including myself) will have cash in hand faster than ken gushi can get his driver's license held. i would personally love the s13 areo bumper, kouki skirts, hatch rear valences, and the kouki tails. and to answer your question about authenticity vs style, my opinion is stylish parts that match up to oem fitment and durability or better. they dont have to be authentic. thats just me tho.


Thanks for your input, really helpful.

[rb25crazy]

well, i wasn't referring to buying "oem aero" what i said was that. i'd buy a bodykit like origin or version select, but made with polyurethane and OEM Quality. so, there would be no need to do any modifications just bolt on, paint and voila. don't really like frp breaks to easily and it's not really suitable for everyday driving in my opinion. maybe for show cars that's cool.

[die hardrift fan]

you can also think about doing the conversions as well. such as s13.5, s14.5, s13.4 etc etc... if you know what im trying to say. i think there would be a good market for affordable and good quality conversion kits. like selling front bumper, hood, and fenders as an option as frp or pur? as long as they have oem fitment and quality you should be good.i would buy one of your conversions if you start making them. then again thats just me...

[240REV]

ok heres my 2 cents.. Id be interested in the US zenki oem front lip in
PUR i go through those in a few months "steep driveway" and like mentioned earlier the navan front bumper would be great along with the oem style side skirts.. I mean if you make this happen ill definently get some parts off you! sounds like a good plan!:bigok:

[frshlikebangco]

i could really go for s13 sideskirts and maybe the mud flaps?
that would really make my day.

[!Zar!]

Kouki 180sx bumper.

[rawr0range]

jdm kouki s14 front and rear bumpers for me

[DohcKA]

coupe and hatch valances are different...

[Project.JDM]

By this week, hopefully Friday, I will have the price list for the replica parts.

[k's_silvia2.0]

I want a s13 silvia FRP hood.

[RMJmotor]

Definately interested in a Pignose front lip and urethane side skirts and rear valance. If you could make both for 89-90 Zenki 240sx hatcback I think that would be a great seller.

Also the sideskirts would work on the 91-93 and coupes.

[Brian]

Good luck.

Everybody WANTS the parts and totally HAS the money right now.
Then when the parts finally show up and are ready to sell, this happens.

Ohhhh I had to spend the money on school/my dog/parents/rent/engine/food/books/tuition/toys/iphone/etc.

It is so convenient that when the buyer need sto pay up, the seller gets screwed.


again, good luck.

well, not really.
but I was just tryin to be nice.

[Neejay]

By this week, hopefully Friday, I will have the price list for the replica parts.
So what made it on the list?

[Neejay]

Good luck.

Everybody WANTS the parts and totally HAS the money right now.
Then when the parts finally show up and are ready to sell, this happens.

Ohhhh I had to spend the money on school/my dog/parents/rent/engine/food/books/tuition/toys/iphone/etc.

It is so convenient that when the buyer need sto pay up, the seller gets screwed.


again, good luck.

well, not really.
but I was just tryin to be nice.
+1 Yep. Typically why people take money up front.

[WangonwWarrior]

If you can replicate JDM zenki parts like front bumper, hell even the headlights at a decent price i would definantly pick that up. Ive been searching for s14 aero parts and i have found some at decents prices but shipping is way to much... Save the custer money on shipping and i would jump on your list. BTW get a list of parts and prices that you can make and im sure people will prepay or get on a list

[Rittmeister]

Another vote for the S13 Silvia aero bumper. I want one in the worst way, but no way can I/will I pay $500-$600 for a used example, and that price is common.

The S13 Silvia aero side skirts would be cool too - they're different from the 180sx version.

[Broadfield]

I'd be down for a S13 aero bumper, skirts and valences. The only problem would be the grill inserts for the aero bumper. Not sure if you could have those made or not, but I'm going to guess not. I have seen a pair of those go for $175 alone...... and the bumper looks like crap without those.

Another big seller, and one I would also be interested in, would be the rare OEM lip for the S13 Q's/K's bumper.

Toby

[SexPanda]

Please no knock-offs though...

And if you do really good with the s-chassis stuff, why not move into older e30 stuff? Theres a decent sized market for bumpers, especially the M stuff.

[HyperTek]

why not make some original shit? if you got the power.. its as easy as hacking up a nsx front bumper, adapt it to a 180sx, with a built in aggressgive lip look and use nsx bumper lights.. and make alot of em.. then fit it on a demo car thats slammed with flush wheels and create a trend..

Alot of the japanese brands make thier own shit then make a really nice demo car, then the kits sell.. All that american companies can do is, see it and copy it, see it and copy it, because the originals are too expensive blah blah. I been wanting a Kouki 180sx style front bumper for my fc.. no one really makes one at the momment and im dam tempted to take things into my own hands and make it myself.

Take a S14 kouki bumper, and incorperate a aggressive lip on the bottom.. so then ur stuff wont be knock off lol

[RMJmotor]

Is there anything actually being made, or did this idea die?

[exitspeed]

Dude hasn't replied for months...

[bboyswoosh87]

I'm interested in chouki sideskirts so bad!

[ZERO~Sil-80]

YES...Silvia S13 Aero's...very very hard to find...if you mass produce replicas of those...it'd sell out for sure..i'm currently looking for an s13 aero bumper. good luck. if you do make this happen, u'd make alot of people happy.

[projectRDM]

jdm kouki s14 front and rear bumpers for me

Why? You can buy them brand new for cheaper than anyone could produce a replica.

I love threads like this, someone has an 'idea' and everyone chimes in on what they want, knowing damn well most of them could never afford it. It's the thought of it being cheaper that gets them going. If people could replicate genuine OEM parts for half the price, they would already have done it. Simple as that. The demand now is to make something aftermarket, slightly different, less quality, because that's what the buyers can afford. Why are there altezza style tails flooding Ebay for $150? That's all kids can afford, they don't care about quality, fitment, or reliability, they want something cool, unique, and cheap. Bottom line, paying OE pricing for OE parts is the best possible option if that's what you want. No one is going to make some magical replacement front lip or sideskirts for $50 that fits as good as stock, no matter what you hope for. Even paying high prices for fiberglass you're almost guaranteed fitment issues, how can anyone expect to pay less for even better materials and have it fit right?
I'm a firm believer in paying what FMV dictates, if that's the price than there's a reason for it. People get on this kick that you can build anything in the woodshed for $10 in materials and think that's all it takes. And when someone has access to a better source we still all expect it to cost just that, $10. It doesn't work that way. The fiberglass replica Greddy lips that used to sell on Ebay went for $159. Retail on a real urethane one from Greddy was $195. Was anyone really willing to save $40 and buy a knockoff piece that's guaranteed to break the first day you get it? Yes, they were, because they're cheap. And all those people came back in and complained about the shitty construction and materials used. That's what you get for saving $40.

[OptionZero]

RDM nailed it
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just an example:
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/216316-oem-jdm-aero-gauge-cluster-dump-pipe-more.html

sides and rears for 350 and shipping?

why even bother with fiberglass replicas