nrg qr and theft

[240driftin[Sil80]]

ok is it possible to steal my car if i wud have an nrg quick release hub kit and the lock for when the wheel is off. provided i had my wheels always turned whenever i park. thank you. good bye mr2 : (

[jrocslider]

yes it is. if they want it they will take it.


why do you ask?

[240driftin[Sil80]]

my aw11 was stolen : ( and i want to buy a 240 again (sold 1st one) and im wondering if its possible to still steal if it i run the quick release, like a reg ebay one. or VS if i go with nrg and also get the lock

[sausage180]

i have a nrg quick release hub, adapter, lock, etc. i mean it does give them a harder time but if it's your car they can't take, it's going to be the parts on the car which would be the next easy target.

[kilo64]

One thing that bugged me for a long time is that are all NRG qd hubs interchangable? Meaning if I had a setup already and the thief had the top half of the qr will it just bolt right in allowing the theft to get away?

Also with the ebya clones; from that I see they look just as interchangable as nrg ones

[jrocslider]

buy works bell if you want a piece of mind. buy something that not everybody has.

thieves are cheap pieces of shit thats why they steal other peoples cars. what makes you think they dont have NRG hubs already knowing that a lot of people use this setup?

[hustlervibes]

If you have the same model they are all interchangeable. And even if they don't have it, all the need is a steering wheel because once the top half is taken off the 6 allen bolts that hold the quick release on are exposed and all the have to do is put their own steering wheel on. If you had the lock then it would make it harder to steal (I don't know if they have a way to get around that) but they can still tow it.

Basically if they want your car and it's not locked in a garage or you're sleeping in it. They'll be able to get it without you really noticing.

[240driftin[Sil80]]

thats what happened : ( right outa my driveway. ok and wat if i had the qr hub and wheel ebay or nrg with the lock, what about if i also had like one of those ebay car alarms??

[jrocslider]

you are just asking for it if you are going to buy all your shit from ebay

quit suckin ebays dick.

if you really cared about your vehicles why buy cheap shit for them?

[aznpoopy]

bottom line is

everything you do is one more thing the thieves have to deal with before they can drive your car away.

so your best bet is to use a combination of qr, alarm, hidden fuel or battery cut switches, etc. hell some people carry their ecu around with them

but nothing safeguards your shit, because they can always tow your car away.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

buy works bell if you want a piece of mind. buy something that not everybody has.

thiefs are cheap pieces of shit thats why they steal other peoples cars. what makes you think they dont have NRG hubs already knowing that a lot of people use this setup?

he has the right and only answer here!

[!Zar!]

One thing that bugged me for a long time is that are all NRG qd hubs interchangable? Meaning if I had a setup already and the thief had the top half of the qr will it just bolt right in allowing the theft to get away?

Also with the ebya clones; from that I see they look just as interchangable as nrg ones

All ball type quick releases are interchangeable.

From Ebay to worksbell.

[FaLKoN240]

buy works bell if you want a piece of mind. buy something that not everybody has.

thiefs are cheap pieces of shit thats why they steal other peoples cars. what makes you think they dont have NRG hubs already knowing that a lot of people use this setup?

All ball bearing quick releases are interchangeable, I put my NRG on my friends WB and vice versa.

QRs are for function and theft DETERRENT. Nothing will stop a tow truck, except the police or a .50

[aznpoopy]

not true. it depends on the the ball bearing pattern, which has to be exactly the same for it to lock

i happen to have two junk ebay qr's lying around, along with my wheel + works bell qr. these two at least do not lock to the works bell

[murda-c]

All ball bearing quick releases are interchangeable, I put my NRG on my friends WB and vice versa.

QRs are for function and theft DETERRENT. Nothing will stop a tow truck, except the police or a .50

RPGs stop trucks good.

make a helluva noise tho.

[!Zar!]

not true. it depends on the the ball bearing pattern, which has to be exactly the same for it to lock

i happen to have two junk ebay qr's lying around, along with my wheel + works bell qr. these two at least do not lock to the works bell

That's random.

Because I tried using ebay, nrg and, works bell and they switched over.

But it really doesn't matter.

The whole point of a quick release is to make it easier to get in/out of the car.

People only happen to use them as a theft deterrent.

There isn't anything stopping people from using two oil filter wrenches or pliers as makeshift steering wheels.

[Ragnarok043]

if a thief wants it bad enough, theres really nothing you can do to stop them. you can however slow them down, with a QR, hidden kill switches and well hidden alarm system with a back up siren. 2 way paging alarm is also a good idea since we all know nobody gives a shit when a siren goes off. it notifies you exactly whats going on with your car, whether it be false shock sensor or if the door, trunk or hood has been opened.

[SoSideways]

if a thief wants it bad enough, theres really nothing you can do to stop them. you can however slow them down, with a QR, hidden kill switches and well hidden alarm system with a back up siren. 2 way paging alarm is also a good idea since we all know nobody gives a shit when a siren goes off. it notifies you exactly whats going on with your car, whether it be false shock sensor or if the door, trunk or hood has been opened.

The only time that's really even remotely close to being useful, is when your car is parked on your driveway, so you have enough time to grab your 9, run out to the driveway and pop off a couple of rounds.

Usually people get their whip stolen in mall parking lots, at work, or whatever, when they have to literally run through a crowd, make a few turns, risk getting yelled at to stop running by the hall monitors, and STILL go out to the parking lot to find nothing but oil stains on the spot where the car used to be. Doesn't matter if your little pager tells you your car's trunk, hood, or even doors were opened, you usually don't have enough time to get to your shit before it's gone, unless, like I said earlier, you are in your house, and your car is in the driveway, within 20 feet.

[S14DB]

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/90300-90399/90350.gif

Can't stop a thief. Only slow um down or make um skip your car for another.

[!Zar!]

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/90300-90399/90350.gif

Can't stop a thief. Only slow um down or make um skip your car for another.
So they can have faster qualifying times.
http://www.ted-kyte.com/3D/Pictures/Oil%20Filter%20Wrench.jpg

[adstudio3d]

Only person a QR is going to stop is an opportunistic joyrider.
Sure you could use oil filter wrenches, but thats not even needed!
I forgot my steering wheel in my girls car one day and drove 15 minutes back home just holding the hub... The LOCK just gives you more room to hold onto.

[s13silady]

stay away from nrg... i dont go around stealing cars. but i broke through an NRG lock in 5 minutes... not the best if it was supposed to be a deterrent.

[SoSideways]

stay away from nrg... i dont go around stealing cars. but i broke through an NRG lock in 5 minutes... not the best if it was supposed to be a deterrent.

An alarm should be your first deterrent, not your fucking NRG lock.

The NRG lock is there as a VISUAL deterrent, not the MAIN DETERRENT.

[axiomatik]

back in high school my friend came out to his car and found that the steering wheel had been stolen out of his bone-stock sentra. he drove it home with some vice grips. QR's can't stop theft.

[Kurai Shimo]

seriously, one of the guys here in vegas had his car stolen, they just ignored the quick release and lock. its not all that hard to just grab the column with your hand. quick releases for many 240 owners are more about shits and giggles than anything else.

[Bigsyke]

QR does nothing. OP sounds like you already got a car stolen, and now your going to cheap out on security again? 1st thing I do to all my cars is make them 99% immune to THEFT. The other 1% calculates them just stripping your car ignoring your siren, and maybe a flatbed.

NRG/WorksBell/ect is just promoting a potential break in. Read thsi thread http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=202555

[Ragnarok043]

The only time that's really even remotely close to being useful, is when your car is parked on your driveway, so you have enough time to grab your 9, run out to the driveway and pop off a couple of rounds.

Usually people get their whip stolen in mall parking lots, at work, or whatever, when they have to literally run through a crowd, make a few turns, risk getting yelled at to stop running by the hall monitors, and STILL go out to the parking lot to find nothing but oil stains on the spot where the car used to be. Doesn't matter if your little pager tells you your car's trunk, hood, or even doors were opened, you usually don't have enough time to get to your shit before it's gone, unless, like I said earlier, you are in your house, and your car is in the driveway, within 20 feet.

but his first car was stolen out of his driveway

[HyperTek]

Just make it harder for em, QR + alarm, kill switches, pull fuses etc..

Instant SR20 theft deterrent = remove the igniter chip

[Bigsyke]

Only person a QR is going to stop is an opportunistic joyrider.
Sure you could use oil filter wrenches, but thats not even needed!
I forgot my steering wheel in my girls car one day and drove 15 minutes back home just holding the hub... The LOCK just gives you more room to hold onto.

Good reason to rip out P/S.c

Seriously, if people would avoid the useless bling, they wouldnt have a bunch of import zombie theives attacking your car like its Dawn of the dead - vtak edition.

[!Zar!]

P/S?

Power Steering?

hahaha.

Tear MY car apart to try and mitigate the changes of something that is pretty inevitable?

hahah.

Negus have you lost your mind?

Sssshhhhiiiitttt.

I will go ahead and give you dumbest post of the day.

[joshchewuhh]

quick releases dont do shit against theft unless you have the lock.

works bell locks are all different keys nrg i believe has 21 different keys.

but bottom line if they have a random qr it will bolt right onto the hub.

[Bigsyke]

P/S?

Power Steering?

hahaha.

Tear MY car apart to try and mitigate the changes of something that is pretty inevitable?

hahah.

Negus have you lost your mind?

Sssshhhhiiiitttt.

I will go ahead and give you dumbest post of the day.


Hope your not talking about me, because your posts have been pretty useless and downright negative.

[!Zar!]

Hope your not talking about me, because your posts have been pretty useless and downright negative.

In this thread I've so far, answered the question of ball type quick releases.

I've given note on how thieves would take a car with a quick release and/or lock.

You on the other hand...

You suggested that people remover powersteering out of their car.

haha.

While you're at it, why don't you take of the wheels?

Remove the steering rack.

Better yet, take apart the whole fucking car.

Then no negus' will steal your car!!!

Yeah... I provided nothing in this thread.

[Bigsyke]

In this thread I've so far, answered the question of ball type quick releases.

I've given note on how thieves would take a car with a quick release and/or lock.

You on the other hand...

You suggested that people remover powersteering out of their car.

haha.

While you're at it, why don't you take of the wheels?

Remove the steering rack.

Better yet, take apart the whole fucking car.

Then no negus' will steal your car!!!

Yeah... I provided nothing in this thread.

with a proper breather setup a non PS setup on a PS rack would be easy enough to control at slow speeds, but impossible to turn with a chainwrench w/o a wheel when using a lock. Thus they couldnt navigate your car unless they have a spare wheel.

[SoSideways]

but his first car was stolen out of his driveway

He never said he had or had no alarm.

I said if you had an alarm, then maybe you'll have a chance, if the car was on the driveway.

When you read something, read the whole thing, not just part of it.

[racepar1]

Alarms do nothing because nobody pays attention to them when they are going off. A quick release is only to make it easier to get in and out of your car if you have a cage. Other than that it is just another shiny part ot put on a mod list. The bottom line is this, if someone really wants your car they WILL take it! There is a quick solution for every single theft deterrent out there, and real car thieves know that. A simple locked door will deter 99.9% of joyriders as they are not really looking to steal anything they just take whatever happens to fall into their hands. If you really want theft protection you need to get creative about it. I used to have a fuel pump interrupt circuit mounted behind the interior panels in the trunk, but I removed it when I gutted my car because it was no longer hidden.

[Bigsyke]

The bottom line is this, if someone really wants your car they WILL take it!

Im going to have to disagree. They WILL take it if your being stupid and cheap about it. Staying low key is 50% of keeping your car. I get a personal satisfaction by the results of my cars advancing as I work on them. I do NOT get personal satisfaction by other males attention and boosting my ego- those are the ones who get their cars stolen. You will never see a picture of my car, and when I sell/buy parts, I take another car.

If I cant find a spot which prevents a flatbed comming from the front/back I wont park there. If you prevent them from getting in the trunk/hood/doors you win. An alarms siren doesnt do jack, but 2 interior sirens DO work.

A relocated brain that is impossible to find, thats used as a relay for other kill circuits will prevent anyone from starting the car as 2x 130db alarms are going off. (in liberal states, you will be sued by theives for that).

an NRG lock/wheel bla bla bla makes a theif stop, look and wonder what else you have.

[FaLKoN240]

with a proper breather setup a non PS setup on a PS rack would be easy enough to control at slow speeds, but impossible to turn with a chainwrench w/o a wheel when using a lock. Thus they couldnt navigate your car unless they have a spare wheel.

That's stupid.

My build isn't to be the most hard to steal car, but one that is fun to drive.

People that steal cars comes with the territory, I'm not going to make my car uncomfortable and damn near impossible to drive, just at the CHANCE that some mother fucker wants to walk off with my car.

I however, DON'T mind getting into a routine of simple (for me, not for theives) tasks to make it harder to take my car.

[SoSideways]

That's stupid.

My build isn't to be the most hard to steal car, but one that is fun to drive.

People that steal cars comes with the territory, I'm not going to make my car uncomfortable and damn near impossible to drive, just at the CHANCE that some mother fucker wants to walk off with my car.

I however, DON'T mind getting into a routine of simple (for me, not for theives) tasks to make it harder to take my car.

Roger that.

Mr. Falkon laying down the law w/ yet another GOOD POST.

[Bigsyke]

That's stupid.

My build isn't to be the most hard to steal car, but one that is fun to drive.

People that steal cars comes with the territory, I'm not going to make my car uncomfortable and damn near impossible to drive, just at the CHANCE that some mother fucker wants to walk off with my car.

I however, DON'T mind getting into a routine of simple (for me, not for theives) tasks to make it harder to take my car.


I take it you dont live/park in a bad neighborhood.

[boost_addict]

Just best believe that any car can be stolen.. NUFF SAID....& thats true all this qr & hub shit aint shit it justs adds time for them to take it off...

[EDacIouSX]

Good reason to rip out P/S.c

Seriously, if people would avoid the useless bling, they wouldnt have a bunch of import zombie theives attacking your car like its Dawn of the dead - vtak edition.

useless bling?

that's like saying a girl having nice boobs is useless bling.

[Bigsyke]

useless bling?

that's like saying a girl having nice boobs is useless bling.

thats fine, ill just keep what has worked for me to myself from now on.

[racepar1]

Im going to have to disagree. They WILL take it if your being stupid and cheap about it. Staying low key is 50% of keeping your car. I get a personal satisfaction by the results of my cars advancing as I work on them. I do NOT get personal satisfaction by other males attention and boosting my ego- those are the ones who get their cars stolen. You will never see a picture of my car, and when I sell/buy parts, I take another car.

If I cant find a spot which prevents a flatbed comming from the front/back I wont park there. If you prevent them from getting in the trunk/hood/doors you win. An alarms siren doesnt do jack, but 2 interior sirens DO work.

A relocated brain that is impossible to find, thats used as a relay for other kill circuits will prevent anyone from starting the car as 2x 130db alarms are going off. (in liberal states, you will be sued by theives for that).

an NRG lock/wheel bla bla bla makes a theif stop, look and wonder what else you have.

Don't even try to feed me the whole "I don't care if people compliment my car" bullshit! We all feel proud when somebody compliments our car and almost none of us are truly building our cars to impress anyone but ourselves. I don't know where the hell you live, but if theft is such a problem there that you have to build your car specifically to prevent it you may want to consider moving. Being as smart as possible about where you park your car is a no-brainer. I try to just enjoy my car. If it gets stolen then there is nothing I can do about it, at least I enjoyed it while I had it. I only park my car in two spots really, my shop and the gated parking at my apartment, so theft is really a non-issue for me.

[!Zar!]

I take it you dont live/park in a bad neighborhood.

You car will be jacked by people who know what 240's are worth.

If not, it would just be a smash and grab.

So being as how people are scoping out the cars, they will find and take.

Location doesn't matter.

A car was stolen from a local area from a nice neighborhood.

Doesn't matter where the car is at.

[JRas]

randomly thinking do NRG QR lock setups all use the same key? or is every lock different?

[blownmotor]

Get a boot. Problem solved.

[iluvpandas4]

Get one of these for your car...

http://www.universalboot.com/ub/ecomm/images/76/shortdesc.jpg

I'm pretty sure that would somewhat take care of people trying to take your car. May not work against a flatbed though.. lol

But seriously, I have a nice long driveway that gets narrow at the end and I just park my car all the way in with three SUV's to block me in. I also have motion sensor lights in the driveway and in the yard, which sets off a small buzzer alarm I have in the house. Most of the time you can't even see the car unless you're my neighbors. I live in a bad neighborhood myself but that doesn't stop me from keeping my car safe. Fuck, when I first moved into my house, cops were there because the last owner's tenants were still there and were hiding stolen cars in the backyard. Luckily the neighborhoods improved from when I first moved in so I don't have to worry too much anymore, but you can never be too safe with what you value.

[Somnambulist]

Man I'm glad I don't live in Cali...

Sucks you guys have to watch your prized possessions out there so closely..

Fuck thieves.

[roboticnissan]

sorry to hear that bro but yes all nrg qr are interchangable and the knock offs work as well. get club for your cllutch they aint taking that shit with that.

[SoSideways]

Get one of these for your car...

http://www.universalboot.com/ub/ecomm/images/76/shortdesc.jpg

I'm pretty sure that would somewhat take care of people trying to take your car. May not work against a flatbed though.. lol

But seriously, I have a nice long driveway that gets narrow at the end and I just park my car all the way in with three SUV's to block me in. I also have motion sensor lights in the driveway and in the yard, which sets off a small buzzer alarm I have in the house. Most of the time you can't even see the car unless you're my neighbors. I live in a bad neighborhood myself but that doesn't stop me from keeping my car safe. Fuck, when I first moved into my house, cops were there because the last owner's tenants were still there and were hiding stolen cars in the backyard. Luckily the neighborhoods improved from when I first moved in so I don't have to worry too much anymore, but you can never be too safe with what you value.

You obviously have not been around the internet to read about the "Das Boot" story and the Audi.

[ROIDMONKEY]

Get one of these for your car...

http://www.universalboot.com/ub/ecomm/images/76/shortdesc.jpg

I'm pretty sure that would somewhat take care of people trying to take your car. May not work against a flatbed though.. lol

But seriously, I have a nice long driveway that gets narrow at the end and I just park my car all the way in with three SUV's to block me in. I also have motion sensor lights in the driveway and in the yard, which sets off a small buzzer alarm I have in the house. Most of the time you can't even see the car unless you're my neighbors. I live in a bad neighborhood myself but that doesn't stop me from keeping my car safe. Fuck, when I first moved into my house, cops were there because the last owner's tenants were still there and were hiding stolen cars in the backyard. Luckily the neighborhoods improved from when I first moved in so I don't have to worry too much anymore, but you can never be too safe with what you value.
that scratch my te's . no way. OK. i have all the shit i can possible , GPS tracking system that text me/email me when car its been moved and if that happens i can justgo online and track the fucker,clifford alarm with all the sensors, calls my cellphone when alarm goes off. work bell quick release with lock(people at gym see me like what that hell ). and still a pain . i dont take my car to the movies or a place that i know my car will be far away from me. i park on handicap parking spot sometimes LOL just to have the car close by. i don't go to all the events , or to the "meets" sometimes i go.

[Bigsyke]

sorry to hear that bro but yes all nrg qr are interchangable and the knock offs work as well. get club for your cllutch they aint taking that shit with that.

20 seconds for an avg theif to defeat that. It only deters the joy riders and amature theives. You can stick a crow bar or screw driver to bend the pedal, kick the clutch lock real hard, bye bye.