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SHIFT_*grind*
07-23-2008, 07:57 AM
...and you happen to have the car up on jackstands, with the oil drained and the IC pipes taken apart, and you go to turn the ignition on and off to test if the timer works...make sure it's in neutral. :duh:

I was installing my Stri timer yesterday. I had spent time researching which wires I should be tapping into, so I thought I had everything right. I wire everything up, put the battery cable back on, and turn the ignition on. The timer lights up the way it's supposed to. It's ~95* out, so I fiddle with it for all of 5 seconds before I'm satisfied and head back inside. I turn the ignition off......the starter activates, the engine turns, the car jumps off the jackstands and lurches halfway out of the garage before I get it shut down :eek: Thankfully nothing's damaged, as far as I can tell, except I ran over my shop light.

The timer wires are supposed to run to 12V constant, IGN ON, and ACC. I'm guessing that since the car tried to start when I turned the ignition off, I have the IGN ON wire tapped into the START wire instead.

I tried to use g6civcx's post here (http://zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=2018711&postcount=18), but the wire colors mentioned don't match up to the colors on the key cylinder. The wiring coming off the ignition, and the corresponding colors on the harness, are as follows:

Ignition wire---|---Corresponding harness wire---|---Function
-----------------------------------------------------------
White/red-----|---White-----------------------|---12V power
Black/white----|---Black/red--------------------|---Starter signal????
Black/yellow---|---Black/white------------------|---ACC ON
Blue-----------|---Blue------------------------|---??????????
Black/green---|---Black/yellow-----------------|---??????????

I'm trying to find the information in the FSM on which wire I should be tapping into for IGN ON, but if anyone knows off the top of their head (a 900 page PDF is kinda hard to navigate)......please, fill in the blanks. :)

DALAZ_68
07-23-2008, 08:04 AM
WTF....damn u were lucky...its semi LOL but highly dangerous

im not sayin u r, but if u r new to wiring...leave it to someone who knows how or just get the adapter harness...

SHIFT_*grind*
07-23-2008, 08:14 AM
I mean, I've done it before on my old S13 without any problem. I wired an RB20 into it without problems as well. That was a while ago though and I can't remember which wires are what on the ignition switch.

SHIFT_*grind*
07-23-2008, 08:42 AM
OK, after looking at the FSM...my IGN ON wire is tapped correctly, it's the ACC wire that's tapped into the signal for the starter. So, the ignition is turned on, and the timer turns on as well. The ignition is turned off, and the timer detects it and sends current to both the IGN ON and ACC circuits to keep the car running (or start it, in my fucked up case).

I'll fill in my own blanks here:

Ignition wire---|---Corresponding harness wire---|---Function
-----------------------------------------------------------
White/red-----|---White-----------------------|---12V power
Black/white----|---Black/red--------------------|---IGN ON
Black/yellow---|---Black/white------------------|---Start signal for starter
Blue-----------|---Blue------------------------|---ACC ON
Black/green---|---Black/yellow-----------------|---Start signal for ECU

SHIFT_*grind*
07-28-2008, 09:21 AM
Just to clarify...if anyone is watching...I re-wired according to the ^above^ chart, and everything works the way it should. If you're confused on which wire does what on an S13 ignition switch, use that.

Flicktitty
07-28-2008, 09:26 AM
man, your lucky it wasent worse.

g6civcx
07-28-2008, 09:36 AM
I fucked up man. My bad. I'm sorry about that.

See below for better description.

g6civcx
07-28-2008, 09:39 AM
Ok, this is straight from the FSM. Look at the first pix in this link: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/166236-ignited-push-button-start-into-s13-troubles.html#post1702882

This is looking into the harness side. The ignition switch plugs into this harness.

SHIFT_*grind*
07-28-2008, 10:45 AM
It's cool, it wasn't your post I was going off of when I wired it wrong. I wasn't sure how you got those wire colors so I followed advice from someone on....yes, I know, it's terrible....NICO. :(

So, lesson #1, don't leave the car in gear when you do this shit, and #2, don't trust NICO tech advice.

g6civcx
07-28-2008, 05:54 PM
I wasn't sure how you got those wire colors

I was doing it from memory. Tells you how good my memory is :o

The pix I did from the FSM tho so it is correct.

SHIFT_*grind*
07-28-2008, 07:05 PM
Yeah, that wiring schematic of the ignition switch is what I used to determine the colors on that chart up there.

jlouguyver21
08-01-2008, 10:50 AM
lol i can relate to this pretty funny glad turned out ok