Log in

View Full Version : Just bought a VLSD?!?!?


mikesr20
07-21-2008, 08:38 PM
I just bought what a guy said was a VLSD. I received it today. When I opened the box I immediately began playing with my new toy, I spun the output shaft and the opposite shaft began spinning the opposite direction. I thought this was strange so I took the time and cleaned the outside case to look for the LSD orange sticker. There was no sticker to be found.

So really my question is, how do I know if this is a VLSD? What should I be able to do to test it?

Sorry if this is a noob question, I am really not a noob, just getting back into my car. Also, I searched for this and found what I fear to be my answer, but would really like some further input.

Mike

rebornS14
07-21-2008, 08:43 PM
if you can hold one side and spin the other freely, then you got ripped. if you spin one side and the other fights against you, you got yourself a VLSD.

rokmplutonium
07-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Sorry to break it to you, but you got a open Diff.

louisdaboois
07-21-2008, 08:46 PM
take the cover off. if you can see the spider gears its open. but if the gears look like its in their own seperate case then its a lsd.

mikesr20
07-21-2008, 09:16 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=203110

this is where I bought it. It has been confirmed that it is an open diff, see pictures:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mikesr20/CIMG2439.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f35/mikesr20/CIMG2438.jpg

Now what do I do?

luftrofl
07-21-2008, 09:24 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=203110

this is where I bought it. It has been confirmed that it is an open diff, see pictures:
Now what do I do?

A) Try to get your $$ back.
B) Sell it and accept the loss.
C) Weld it to use or sell.

mikesr20
07-21-2008, 09:26 PM
I paid through paypal you think there is anything I can get through that if he is not willing to make amends?

WangonwWarrior
07-21-2008, 09:27 PM
A) Try to get your $$ back.
B) Sell it and accept the loss.
C) Weld it to use or sell.

D)Fuck with the guy who sold it to you :rofl:

mekaw
07-21-2008, 09:30 PM
I paid through paypal you think there is anything I can get through that if he is not willing to make amends?


you can always use paypal to get your money back since you used paypal. look around and perhaps email paypal admin or w/e

mikesr20
07-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Ok, I have put in a case with Paypal, hopefully he will be an honest man and we can resolve this. Thank you all for your help.

projectRDM
07-21-2008, 09:49 PM
New registry on the site, already a slew red marks, I think you're pretty much fucked. Sorry to say.

!Zar!
07-22-2008, 01:41 AM
Wow, what's wrong?

You bought a vlsd, that's what's wrong.

You dumb negus.

drftwerks
07-22-2008, 01:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsFCSvqsqFA

ryguy
07-22-2008, 01:45 AM
Shoulda called the credit card company first. Paypal rarely ever does shit. I got scammed before (paid with paypal) and Discover didn't let me down.

i8yourfwd
07-22-2008, 01:46 AM
Wow, what's wrong?

You bought a vlsd, that's what's wrong.

You dumb negus.
For allt he dumb negus.


Main Entry:
1ne·gus
Pronunciation:
\ˈnē-gəs, ni-ˈgüs\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Amharic nəgus, from Geez nĕgūša nagašt king of kings
Date:
1594

ericcastro
07-22-2008, 02:27 AM
Thats an open.

Left you some posi rep, and left him some neg.

bummer, weld it up. do some donuts, smile and forget about it. Keep your current open for the rainy and snow seasones :)

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 07:49 AM
Its not my DD so it really doesnt matter, I just want what I pay for.

ManoNegra
07-22-2008, 08:15 AM
Florida, why am I not surprised.
Have you contacted the seller about getting your money back?

shmiddy
07-22-2008, 08:22 AM
Thats an open.

Left you some posi rep, and left him some neg.

bummer, weld it up. do some donuts, smile and forget about it. Keep your current open for the rainy and snow seasones :)


yeah their aint much you can do now.. weld it up and you should be alright.. honestly u should have seen his rep's and thought twice

that sux man gl

SoSideways
07-22-2008, 08:32 AM
Oh wow, I thought about buying that thing too!

Thought to myself, eh... don't really want to deal with VLSD vagueness, and $175 is kinda steep for a VLSD.

Good luck on getting your money back man. That kid deserves whatever is coming his way (Karma will get him).

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 09:21 AM
I have contacted him about getting my money back, and he wants me to send it back to him before getting a refund. Sounds even more shady then before. I am trying to work something out with him, but am unsuccessful to this point.

I appreciate the positive reps. Shady people really piss me off.

SoSideways
07-22-2008, 09:43 AM
I have contacted him about getting my money back, and he wants me to send it back to him before getting a refund. Sounds even more shady then before. I am trying to work something out with him, but am unsuccessful to this point.

I appreciate the positive reps. Shady people really piss me off.

Bet you if you send it back to him, then he'll keep the diff AND your money. Then you won't even have an open diff to weld.

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 09:50 AM
Bet you if you send it back to him, then he'll keep the diff AND your money. Then you won't even have an open diff to weld.

Pretty much what I was thinking. Not sure what to do, I will be the honest person and give him an opportunity to amend the situation.

carnagexxxx
07-22-2008, 10:10 AM
So if you send it back to him, how much would it cost to ship it? I would guess a good amount right? Hopefully the d-bag will own up to his deceit and help you out with shipping.

The alternative is to do a road trip to Florida to throw the thing at him or something. You can take a beach vacation too!

I think some of the guys who already posted about welding the thing are right given your scenario. Look into that too.

exitspeed
07-22-2008, 10:15 AM
Please PM with the final resolution. If he does not do everything in his power to make this right, he will be Browned, ie banned from the market place.

Siizzzoooo
07-22-2008, 10:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsFCSvqsqFA

LMAO, that kid kept looking around for black folks in the audience :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 10:20 AM
Will do exitspeed. I appreciate everyones input. Unfortunately, the cost of gas from Kansas City to wherever he is in FL, would be more then it is worth. However, it would be great to do it in person.

ericcastro
07-22-2008, 10:57 AM
I sold my VLSD for $300. And the dude picked it up. I think the going rate on Ebay was around that much as well. So $175 aint bad.
Guys that are upgrading to a 1.5 or 2 way usually will sell them cheaper, FYI :)


And tell him you want to COD it to him. (charge on delivery), dont know if they still do that? And If he doesnt pick it up, do you get charged?

You could just send him a box of dog shit and other random stupid stuff whenever you get bored? lol

SoSideways
07-22-2008, 11:01 AM
Too bad I'm not enough of a badass, or else I'd go knock on his door for you.

Then again, since I've posted that sentence on the interweb, I'm not going to do it now.

ZipTiedCoupe
07-22-2008, 11:09 AM
Yeah thats a open.

90S13dude
07-22-2008, 11:20 AM
Dude as long as it was advertised as a VLSD then Paypal will get your money back. What you need to do is only respond through Paypal so that they have record of your conversations. If he agreed through Paypal to send it back then send it back and provide proof that you sent it. If you do this you will get your money back.

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 12:29 PM
Dude as long as it was advertised as a VLSD then Paypal will get your money back. What you need to do is only respond through Paypal so that they have record of your conversations. If he agreed through Paypal to send it back then send it back and provide proof that you sent it. If you do this you will get your money back.

Good idea, thanks.

sr-20
07-22-2008, 02:33 PM
Amazing how this was blown out of proportion. What he's not telliing you is that I have been trying to resolve the matter with him. This was an isolated incident made out to be bigger than it is. I would have understand if I was being a jerk and did not want to give him his money back. That is not the case at all. I have replied to all of his PMs. Yet, he felt the need to smear me all over this forum for no reason. I sent him the money to ship me back the differential. I also told him once I receive it and it is the same differential that I shipped him and it is in the same condition as when it was shipped, he will be given his refund. $202 will not break me. I have no motivation to steal anyone's $202, it is not worth it.

Instead of getting all of the facts, everyone jumps on the bandwagon of " I would do this, you should do that, or I gave him a negative feedback." Get the facts before you all get carried away.

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 02:40 PM
You have never once stated that you would fully refund the $202 until now. You have completely dodged the statement because I have asked you repeatedly.

The crappy part is that we would not be in this situation if you hadnt try to sell something that was not as you described. Its not like I wanted to go through this situation. I have not slandered you. I made this post just simply to find out whether I was right about it actually being a VLSD or not.

You have responded to all of my PM's, but you have not given the information I have asked, your responses have been vague. Please just resolve this through Paypal.

In the future, know what you are selling.

ericcastro
07-22-2008, 02:44 PM
Its not hard to figure out if its a VLSD or an open diff.

You should know the used product your selling, and this wouldn't happen.

Glad to see your taking corective measures, and hope to see this thread updated with a resolve. Im sure once that happens, you will loose some of the red squares.

sr-20
07-22-2008, 02:46 PM
I wrote it out in plain English, just like I just did in my post. Once again, we are still going back and forth and at a stand still because of your lack of cooperation. I have been coorperating from the beginning. Since you are so right and I am so wrong, why not post all of the pm communication in the open. You went this far, put it all out. I have nothing to hide.

The fact that I am posting all of this information in the open is your proof, since that is what you are concerned about.

Instead, you want me to give you a full refund BEFORE I get my item back, a lot of sense that makes. Yet, I am the one who is not cooperating. Ship the differential back so I can get this overwith already.

Sideways~S14
07-22-2008, 02:49 PM
You are out on top now you got a open instead of a viscous cause viscous blows only problem is you over payed so now weld that shit up

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 03:05 PM
I am not trying to be difficult just want to cover my bases. Send me the 77.94 through Paypal, and I will send the diff back to you. Then when you see that it is in good working order refund through paypal the $202 and we can close the case.

g6civcx
07-22-2008, 03:06 PM
Please take this discussion to PM. Your private matters don't belong in Tech.

uthemofo
07-22-2008, 03:14 PM
weld that shit

!Zar!
07-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Viva la welded

mikesr20
07-22-2008, 03:19 PM
I already have an open diff if I just want to weld one.

exitspeed
07-22-2008, 03:26 PM
Please take this discussion to PM. Your private matters don't belong in Tech.

Indeed. Again, OP if it is not resolved let me know. However it sounds like the seller is more the willing to take care of the situation.

exitspeed
07-31-2008, 12:05 PM
Thread re-opened per OP request. Issue have been resolved.

mikesr20
07-31-2008, 01:46 PM
Got my refund today, ended up working the situation out. It seems to have been an honest mistake that was made right.

SHIFT_*grind*
07-31-2008, 01:59 PM
That's good to hear. Too many people get screwed on things like this and never see the end of it, it's good that it got worked out. Personally, I'm still out $1700 I spent on an engine swap back in '02 :(

ericcastro
07-31-2008, 02:53 PM
VERY GOOD TO HEAR GUYS !!!!

As soon as I can send some rep, Imma hit you both up. See if we cant get you out the red, and some more green for working it out and re opening this to clear the sellers name!!