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Saviorsoul
07-18-2008, 12:00 PM
s13 ka24de

Some reason I just CAN NOT get my car to idle properly. Its eratic and random! I can't figure out what the hell it is..

What I've tried to fix it:

Searched high & low for vacum leaks
Replaced TPS, calibrated correctly
Replaced lower collector w/ IACV off a running motor
MAFS is new
Checked grounds and fuses, all ok..

Yeah, so I'm out of ideas. Anyone else have some?

(Emissions removed) New rebuilt motor

Phlip
07-18-2008, 12:06 PM
I don't see anything suggesting that you've checked ignition (plugs/wires, coilm, etc.) or injectors... Have you?

jyb116
07-18-2008, 12:09 PM
could be exhaust leak thats what happend when i got mine

Saviorsoul
07-18-2008, 12:14 PM
I don't see anything suggesting that you've checked ignition (plugs/wires, coilm, etc.) or injectors... Have you?

plugs new (took out and cleaned as well)
Checked wires (If I take them out they all produce a substancial loss in engine speed)
MSD Coil2 (new)
Injectors new as well O-rings installed correctly.

Saviorsoul
07-18-2008, 12:16 PM
could be exhaust leak thats what happend when i got mine


... I have a penny sized exhause leak, but I can't see how that could cauase my idle to be eratic.. I'm trying to find pair of Hotshot 4-2-1 ceramic coated headers to fix my exhaust leak, and get better performance at once... (fuckn shity pacesetters)

osal
07-18-2008, 07:48 PM
tryin running some seafoam, it help alot estabilizing my idle.
Also check ur ignition timing

singlecamslam
07-18-2008, 08:12 PM
Try the EGR and try to run engine codes.

racepar1
07-18-2008, 08:15 PM
I did a write-up on this, search for it!

Saviorsoul
07-19-2008, 11:46 PM
tryin running some seafoam, it help alot estabilizing my idle.
Also check ur ignition timing

Its a new motor, doesn't need seafoam, BUT I did it anyway. No help

Saviorsoul
07-19-2008, 11:47 PM
Try the EGR and try to run engine codes.

I don't have emissions. An I don't have a check engine light either.

blownoffvalve
07-20-2008, 09:24 AM
wow i didnt know an exhaust leak would actually cause this problem

racepar1
07-20-2008, 12:26 PM
Its a new motor, doesn't need seafoam, BUT I did it anyway. No help

I don't have emissions. An I don't have a check engine light either.

Like I told you SEARCH for my write-up! Stop being an idiot and listen! I'm not going to hold your damn hand, but I will point you in the right direction!

Bigsyke
07-20-2008, 12:51 PM
Exhaust leak the size of a penny? Yea.......not good, And emissions are directly inline with your vac system, even when capped off. Isnt the Evac constantly purging?

Clean out the IACV, check the alternator load.

pink godzila
07-20-2008, 01:05 PM
Might wanna try to clean the Intake Manifold and replace a new Knock sensor.
Due to the old KA there will be alot of carbon stick inside the manifold so it could cause engine performace and idling problem. Also it could casue the EGR not working properly so try to clean the Manifold.

racepar1
07-20-2008, 02:39 PM
I give up!
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=190745&highlight=idle+fix

phi_ho1
07-20-2008, 02:41 PM
best is to check the MAF. 75 percent is will be it.

racepar1
07-20-2008, 02:49 PM
best is to check the MAF. 75 percent is will be it.


WRONG! MAF's rarely go bad, especially on nissans. Is anybody going to read the damn thread that I wrote? I mean what the hell! People were bugging the hell out of me to write it, and nobody wants to read the damn thing!

red240
07-20-2008, 04:59 PM
WRONG! MAF's rarely go bad, especially on nissans. Is anybody going to read the damn thread that I wrote? I mean what the hell! People were bugging the hell out of me to write it, and nobody wants to read the damn thing!
I read it,good job! Going to do it to as I have Idle problems with my s14sr
Mine runs fine for a few min. then stumbles then idles good again randomly:-/

Saviorsoul
07-22-2008, 09:52 AM
I give up!
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=190745&highlight=idle+fix

lol just listening to their ideas. I found your write up. I just haven't had enough free time when its not 103 degrees F in the shade out here. I'm going to try it, it makes sense and if its helped two of your friends I'll damn well try it.

Saviorsoul
07-22-2008, 09:54 AM
best is to check the MAF. 75 percent is will be it.

.90 percent of the time IF the MAFS goes out you encounter a 2300RPM (rev limiter) Your car pretty much won't allow you to rev past 2300. I don't know if its a saftey protocol, or just from it being fucked up, but I've encountered it on two 240s. My MAF did go bad, but I replaced it and its fine now. I can use my full rev band. Thanks for the idea though.

Saviorsoul
07-22-2008, 10:01 AM
Might wanna try to clean the Intake Manifold and replace a new Knock sensor.
Due to the old KA there will be alot of carbon stick inside the manifold so it could cause engine performace and idling problem. Also it could casue the EGR not working properly so try to clean the Manifold.
Read my origonal post. Its a rebuilt motor. My intake was sandblasted. There is NO carbon build up and my knock sensor is fine, plus all the sensor does it retard your timing if it senses a knock, and when it goes bad it almost always throws a code. (Plus its new, OEM from Nissan)

Saviorsoul
07-22-2008, 10:03 AM
Also it could casue the EGR not working properly so try to clean the Manifold.

I don't live in So Cal. I have no emissions.

LA_phantom_240
08-01-2008, 11:31 PM
.90 percent of the time IF the MAFS goes out you encounter a 2300RPM (rev limiter) Your car pretty much won't allow you to rev past 2300. I don't know if its a saftey protocol, or just from it being fucked up, but I've encountered it on two 240s. My MAF did go bad, but I replaced it and its fine now. I can use my full rev band. Thanks for the idea though.



No, actually we blew up the MAF.
And goddamnit Eric don't fucking post a million times. Ctrl+C is your friend when trying to quote multiple posts.
My idle is a bit erratic myself lol. But I've got more on my plate after that fiasco last night.