"If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?"

[lflkajfj12123]

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/23/2302.asp

California: Police Raid Car Enthusiast Gathering, Generate Revenue
Police raid Riverside, California parking lot to issue modified car tickets at local car enthusiast gathering.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/canyoncross.jpg

Nine police agencies in Riverside, California sent more than one hundred police officers to surround a gathering of automotive enthusiasts. Owners of imported sport compact cars had gathered at the Canyon Crossing shopping center on Friday night to swap stories, talk about their passion for cars and show off the latest enhancements to their rides. At around 11pm police surprised participants by blocking all exits with fifty police cruisers. Officers then began a warrantless search and interrogation operation of the 150 vehicles that were present.

"If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?" Riverside Police Traffic Sergeant Skip Showalter asked an enthusiast during a similar crackdown last year. "Why would you want more power going to your car?"

Police issued a total of forty-eight tickets for "engine modifications" with police accusing the owners of the parked vehicles of being street racers. Another fifty tickets were issued for paperwork violations, dark window tinting and lack of a front license plate. The most revenue, however, will be generated from the fees imposed on twenty vehicles that were confiscated. Despite labeling the parking lot raid as taking place at a "street racing venue," Riverside Police offered no evidence that any street racing actually took place.

Across the state, gas tax funds are regularly used to fund similar crackdowns (http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/18/1831.asp) that generate big revenue. In 2004, the California Highway Patrol issued a total of 101,553 "modified car" citations worth $10.5 million according to CHP data obtained by TheNewspaper.

In 2005, the California Office of Traffic Safety handed Riverside Police $400,000 in state and federal gas tax revenue for the "establishment of a regional task force to conduct enforcement operations targeting street racing, modified vehicles and speed contests," according to the Riverside Police Department's June 2007 Chief's Report. The department received another $503,268 grant for selective enforcement efforts in 2008. The other agencies that participated in the raid include the California Highway Patrol, Riverside County Sheriff's Department, and police from Baldwin Park, Fontana, Irwindale, Moreno Valley, Ontario and Mount San Jacinto Community College.
old news but if a cop ever said that to me

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w286/unhinged5/falconpuch.gif

[90hatchie]

and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol

[Bobafreak]

lol falcon punch! ok back to topic....no falcon punch.

[2Slow40]

Cliff Notes: Don't live in Cali

[BBSilvia]

lol falcon punch! ok back to topic....no falcon punch.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7350/copy2ofbackwindstckswh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7350/copy2ofbackwindstckswh9.ce1d98ad92.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=377&i=copy2ofbackwindstckswh9.jpg)

[Bobafreak]

hahaha yessss! +rep

[stiizy]

and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol

Me too yorktown cops are only dicks at night i noticed like if you got exhaust and are on the 202 they love to fuck with you and staties on 9..


When i lived in cali i loved how i never got tickets because of my NY plates they didn't do shit....

Except give me a 350$ littering fine for flickin my cig out the window saying i could start a fire at the beach parking lot, water? sand? fire how??:Owned:

[BustedS13]

that's such a stupid argument... chevy makes a 500 horsepower car, honda makes motorcycles that can do like 200mph, and that's from the factory.

then again it's a great point. it's like a stoner with a car full of bongs and issues of high times. fuck yeah i'm going to search your dumb ass.

[ravinaziankid]

That's pretty stupid, why does it matter what you do with your own property. I want to see a cop come up to me and ask me why I dress nicely or why I need an ipod or psp. This seems very illegal and a waste of cali tax payer's money. I hope they get sued by all those who were ticketed and the police learn from this. Even though that would mean more money from the tax payers, but they will probably think twice before doing this again. Seems like Cali is in some kind of dictatorship or communist country state of mind. What's next? Take your home away because you repaired it and remodeled it? Just crazy.

[stiizy]

Craziest thing i ever seen in the east is they ask you to pop your hood to run your engine VIN to see if it's stolen or not...

[RiversideS13]

that is why i never go to meeting again

[muddafakka]

Car enthusiasts getting the shit end of the stick...what else is new.

Glad I don't live in Cali.

I wonder what those cops drive off duty.

Oh yeah, front plates suck balls.

[ESmorz]

Car enthusiasts getting the shit end of the stick...what else is new.

Glad I don't live in Cali.

I wonder what those cops drive off duty.

Mustangs

Camaro's

POS wagons

Minivans

[driftphenom]

and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol


east coast FTW!!!

[slothonaleash]

That's really unfortunate

Well, I live in Ohio.

I can rip past police officers with my buddy club spec II, a couple inches from the ground, blaring August Burns Red, wearing a beanie... and they don't give me a second look.

Cliff notes:

Move to Ohio.

[90hatchie]

Me too yorktown cops are only dicks at night i noticed like if you got exhaust and are on the 202 they love to fuck with you and staties on 9..


When i lived in cali i loved how i never got tickets because of my NY plates they didn't do shit....

Except give me a 350$ littering fine for flickin my cig out the window saying i could start a fire at the beach parking lot, water? sand? fire how??:Owned:

i dont seem to have a problem with yorktown cops
and i rip on it passing idiots infront of the police station coming out of town

[ESmorz]

That's really unfortunate

Well, I live in Ohio.

I can rip past police officers with my buddy club spec II, a couple inches from the ground, blaring August Burns Red, wearing a beanie... and they don't give me a second look.

Cliff notes:

Move to Ohio.

http://www.paintcrkstables.com/images/horsepic1.jpg

vs

http://www.nacua.org/meetings/ac2007/Images/San-Diego-Sunset.jpg

:keke:

[JayDee M Rolly]

http://www.paintcrkstables.com/images/horsepic1.jpg

vs

http://www.nacua.org/meetings/ac2007/Images/San-Diego-Sunset.jpg

:keke:
LOL seriously. +repped

[svensko]

I wonder how many of those car owners are posting on their home forums right now...

"Yo dawgs i gotz mah 240 conficated cuz i was ridin wit a engene that i new wuz illegal fer 4 yeras. NE1 got sum advise"

[90hatchie]

http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/canyoncross.jpg

VS


http://www.poster.net/silbermann-henri/silbermann-henri-manhattan-skyline-4800209.jpg

[Quail]

You guys definitely have it bad over there. The police usually leave us alone unless we have clear illegal modifications (over tinted windows, etc), or if people are literally racing on the street. Otherwise, no evidence, no crime. I've been pulled over a couple times. One time I was driving too fast on a backroad late at night. The officers liked my car, could see I was driving quickly, but safely, so let me off.
The other time I got pulled over whilst I was trying to catch up with an Evo (not racing - but driving quickly). The traffic cop gave me a $60 fine for an illegal license plate (not vertically mounted), and let me on my way.

[slothonaleash]

http://www.paintcrkstables.com/images/horsepic1.jpg

vs

http://www.nacua.org/meetings/ac2007/Images/San-Diego-Sunset.jpg

:keke:


hahahaha agreed ten-fold... there is SHIT to do here

I live in the suburbs though so no horses here, no beaches or suns either.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Looking into the grand scheme of things, this is a great way for the state to make cash. Cops are ordered to do stuff like this. Some might be huge fans of import cars and the scene but they have to do their jobs. But the statement "If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?" is pretty stupid because modding cars have been around since the 30's. It must be the worst known secret because this guy must be totally oblivious to this. Trucks get lifted, so would I have to assume that they will be illegally off-roading? Would I then be legally able to place that guy under arrest? nope. But why the difference with with us?
Then again, why would anyone do an unorganized meet anymore? It's just stupid. It's like Batman having a sign in front of the secret batcave saying "batcave this way."

[adictd2b00st]

stereotypes at their best....

i don't know if west coast is so much different, but out "meets" are always a mixed crowd of domestics/imports we all get along because we are all car enthusiasts in the end. is that not the case there? i'd be suprised if they gave domestic owners the same treatment.....

[an_orange_s2k]

there was a big crackdown on street racing in oakland a little while back. c'mon now i think they should be focusing all their power towards the murders and drugs first. but thats just my opinion

[exitspeed]

That really sucks. Those cops are idiots.

Now saying that ALL those people were there to street race, is like saying all cops are corrupt. That shit pisses me the fuck off.

[dynamicck]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/371666144_5e9f229ecb.jpg
http://www.surfersvillage.com/gal/pictures/38172.jpg



Typical summer days in So Cal beaches.
-1 for cops
+1000 for females

[ronmcdon]

Not all of CA is that awful. Los Angeles county is actually fairly lenient (knock on wood). I think I've only got pulled over twice for no front license plate. I used to live in the East Bay Area (norcal), San Francisco, and San Diego. For the most part, it wasn't bad at all.

OC, on the other hand is downright notorious for that sort of thing, and so is the inland empire area. Should you choose to live down there, don't be surprised stuff like this can happen, because it does. IIRC, there was another thread a few months ago about something similar in the same area. also another meet that got busted with rampant impounds.

[shmiddy]

damn they go hard on the west side

[ronmcdon]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/371666144_5e9f229ecb.jpg
http://www.surfersvillage.com/gal/pictures/38172.jpg



Typical summer days in So Cal beaches.
-1 for cops
+1000 for females

Yeah, but we're talking about Riverside here. Most of what you see down there are fatties with strollers.
Even Los Angeles is getting pretty bad these days.

[an_orange_s2k]

CA isnt all that bad. the cop in SF are pretty cool, since SF is pretty liberal. i mean where else can u get caught smoking weed and end up with just a slap on the wrist?

[adrians_s13]

ugh... I remember seeing that on the news awhile back...

totally wrong...

cops might as well break up every quinceanera in hopes of finding illegal aliens... :rolleyes:

[ronmcdon]

That really sucks. Those cops are idiots.

Now saying that ALL those people were there to street race, is like saying all cops are corrupt. That shit pisses me the fuck off.

There is some truth in that. education requirements for police depts out here arn't that stringent. I actually applied to the Los Angeles sheriff's dept earlier this year, and was quite appalled by some of the testing and requirements they gave us. Basically, just a high school degree or GED was all that was required. You saw many kids barely out of HS apply. On top of that, the entry exam tested us on questions that were elementary school level grammar and arithmetic. there were somewhere around 90 applicants. around 40-50 had failed that test.

Cops out here get paid pretty well, at least 50k before taxes. I really think the dept needs to up their standards as far as education goes, maybe at least require 1-2yrs in college. There are many college graduates barely holding a job that makes $30k these days. Policing is a serious matter. I'd rather they hire more liberal arts majors than teens barely out of high school.

[Matej]

Tell them you need it so your 20-year old car is able to keep up with the traffic flow.

[playthe_part]

wait.. i thought the gas tax was supposed to go towards things like public transport and improving our roads, not funding police crackdowns. i'd feel a lot better paying all that money for gas knowing I-80 would FINALLY get some attention rather than knowing i helped the police "serve and protect" by issuing tickets for illegal tint. nothing against police, i just think the priorities should be straightened out.

[azndoc]

OP's avatar is awesome.


Wait what was this thread about?

Oh non sense.

[ESmorz]

I and a couple of other guys (mr2's and wagons of the people... dont ask) were in a parking garage.

We are just minding our business taking pictures, shooting the breeze blah blah.

Anyways 3 squad cars and a bike roll up and the guy on the bike gives us this big lecture about how "they were just given this big grant to hire and train more officers for the prevention of street racers" he then proceeded to call us all street racers and that when we are on the streets be careful because they will pull us over and pop us.

One guy asked why he assumed we were street racers and he said modified cars, and meeting somewhere. Simple as that. He pointed to my car and said if I saw that 240 on the street I would pull you over and pop your hood in a minute.

I said "you'll just be wasting your time, everything is stock or 50 state legal"

Then I turned around got in my car and went to the bottom of the structure where 5 more units were waiting.

That was kinda gay.

[lflkajfj12123]

OP's avatar is awesome.


Wait what was this thread about?

Oh non sense.

jack, she says hi

[azndoc]

Actually she's just mumbling right now, I've got something in her mouth.

But yeah I could see how it could sound like hi.

[ESmorz]

Actually she's just mumbling right now, I've got something in her mouth.

But yeah I could see how it could sound like hi.


http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/ball%20gag%20harness.jpg

Not again...

:coolugh:

[lflkajfj12123]

oh so she showed you the balloon trick i taught her?

don't rough her up too much, she gotta look good for our DATE tonight

suppp

[kensreliableb18b]

I wonder how many of those car owners are posting on their home forums right now...

"Yo dawgs i gotz mah 240 conficated cuz i was ridin wit a engene that i new wuz illegal fer 4 yeras. NE1 got sum advise"


you, sir, are a FUCKING idiot. i swear you have some disorder and can't let that other thread go. go jump off a bridge or something.

OP: yeeeaaaaaaa, if a cop ever asked something as ridiculous as that, i'd really sit there and debate with him/her.

[Matej]

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/ball%20gag%20harness.jpg
Is that an apple?

[ESmorz]

Is that an apple?

Do you want it to be an apple?

:cj:

[azndoc]

oh so she showed you the balloon trick i taught her?

don't rough her up too much, she gotta look good for our DATE tonight

suppp

I'll brown paper bag special her for ya.

I don't think you want to see the stretch marks I left on the sides of her mouth.

Done and done.

[DUFFM4N]

so then i better see some crack downs at all the classic car meets off route 66, their engines are modified...smog exempt or not, its modified, so they must street race as well...

because street racing is illegal no matter what you drive, doesnt matter if your car was made before 1976

[ESmorz]

so then i better see some crack downs at all the classic car meets off route 66, their engines are modified...smog exempt or not, its modified, so they must street race as well...

because street racing is illegal no matter what you drive, doesnt matter if your car was made before 1976

http://www.reelingreviews.com/2fast2furiouspic.jpg

"Save the spray for the way back"

[2Slow40]

http://www.paintcrkstables.com/images/horsepic1.jpg

vs

http://www.nacua.org/meetings/ac2007/Images/San-Diego-Sunset.jpg

:keke:

That's neat but...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2478741923_510b2172ca.jpg

vs

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Business/nm_gas_price1_080418_mn.jpg

[S13_Nightkid]

^^EAST COAST FTW!

but Is that first one current? 3.73? That must be like in Pohick Fucking Ohio.

[2Slow40]

Not really sure, here in Oklahoma gas is like 3.80 so I just kinda found a picture of a close price.

[singlecamslam]

reading these kind of news just makes me want to sell my car. I hate how here in cali we have to hide everything we do to our cars even though we just drive down the street to get some groceries. And as for the engine crap its even more BS. SR's pass emissions but fail visual, and who the hell cares about visual inspection? As long as it doesnt polute the earth! And if you got receipts for your engine obviously its not stolen. And running the vin on the engine to see if its stolen? what if your old engine blew up and you just swapped it from pick and pull? This is such bullshit. And exhaust tickets are not fixable anymore even though my car is quieter than a fucking prius!. Ok i'm done.

[flip3d]

They wont let you become an officer if your IQ is above ~100.

[raz0rbladez909]

Cops out here get paid pretty well, at least 50k before taxes. I really think the dept needs to up their standards as far as education goes, maybe at least require 1-2yrs in college. There are many college graduates barely holding a job that makes $30k these days. Policing is a serious matter. I'd rather they hire more liberal arts majors than teens barely out of high school.

College proves nothing except that you took X number of years of college, not that you absorbed anything because honestly our college system is so money hungry its rediculous. Half of college students will be in debt their entire lives just to pay off student loans just for a bachelors degree, what reason do you need a college degree to become a police officer? Granted there are plenty of douchebag cops out there but I know plenty of great ones and believe it or not its not some uber technical field that you need a degree for, hell i fix helicopters in the military, yet officers(the ones with the degrees) always end up breaking shit or not knowing shit because they didn't use common sense and use it in their checklist. And last time i checked to be a police officer in L.A. County you have to be at least 20 1/2 with prior military or college to even get looked at most of the time.

[Agamemnon]

"If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?"

"Why would you buy a gun, unless you intend to kill someone?"

Both are retarded statements.

[ronmcdon]

College proves nothing except that you took X number of years of college, not that you absorbed anything because honestly our college system is so money hungry its rediculous. Half of college students will be in debt their entire lives just to pay off student loans just for a bachelors degree, what reason do you need a college degree to become a police officer? Granted there are plenty of douchebag cops out there but I know plenty of great ones and believe it or not its not some uber technical field that you need a degree for, hell i fix helicopters in the military, yet officers(the ones with the degrees) always end up breaking shit or not knowing shit because they didn't use common sense and use it in their checklist. And last time i checked to be a police officer in L.A. County you have to be at least 20 1/2 with prior military or college to even get looked at most of the time.

College does not guarantee a good education, but increases the likelihood of one. At the very least, to obtain an associate of arts degree requires that you pass classes in critical thinking, English composition, and basic algebra. In my opinion, yes those are important things to know, when it comes to analyzing info to make reasonable decisions. As a taxpayer, I would prefer an educated officer over an uneducated one. If you disagree, then we can only agree to disagree on this matter.

Yes, I do believe in our college system, particularly city college, CA state college, and the CA UC system. I've participated in all three, and have my BA. I can't speak for private colleges, but I disagree public colleges in CA are $$$ hungry. Imo, the public education system is a good value for the money. Other than that, i don't wish to get any more off topic.

Education has nothing to do with being a douche. jerks will be jerks regardless. The issue here on this thread isn't so much the cop being a douche, as he is foolish. a reasonable person (cop or not) wouldn't be saying "If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?". He's just setting himself up for criticism and ridicule. A more intelligent officer would approach the situation would just check for illegal mods, and follow procedure accordingly.

Yes, you are correct about the 20 yr old age limit, but prior college or military experience arn't mandatory to join the LA sheriff's dept;

http://lasdreserve.org/howtojoin1.htm

[SlideWell]

"If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?"

"Why would you buy a gun, unless you intend to kill someone?"

Both are retarded statements.

i second this :fruit:

[luftrofl]

Because I like to take my car to the race track?

[raz0rbladez909]

ugggh never mind

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Most of what you see down there are fatties with strollers.


and that's in the high schools

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

to be quite honest with you I thought the article made the cops sound kinda douchey. They used words like "automobile enthusiast" instead of "import car enthusiasts" and they used "warantless searches" which, although within their rights, makes them look like the bad guys. I think the author was forced to tell the whole story but was a little annoyed that the cops would wast their time on "automobile enthusiasts" instead of streetracers who are actually doing something illegal. God forbid someone got killed in Corona. Who would be there to save the day? Oh yeah, I forgot, noone because all the Riverside PD is cracking down on gear heads.

[PhilthyS13]

It's funny how they mess with import cars, yet they ride around on modded bikes:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/09/BAJB114OUT.DTL

Oakland PD's Harleys have a new roar
Phillip Matier,Andrew Ross

Monday, June 9, 2008

Over in Oakland they like it loud - so loud that all 45 of the Police Department's Harley-Davidson motorcycles have been equipped with shiny new tailpipes, at a cost of $500 apiece, to rev up their roar.

It seems the cops just didn't feel safe on toned-down bikes.

"There's an old motorcycle adage that you are heard before you are seen," said Deputy Chief Dave Kozicki, explaining the department's decision to toss the bikes' muted factory-issued mufflers in favor of the more high-volume pipes.

Kozicki cited an accident three months ago in which an Oakland officer riding a toned-down cycle was struck by a motorist who said he hadn't heard the officer approaching.

But some City Hall insiders, as well as motorcycle cops elsewhere, said the safety argument is a stretch.

Even the folks at the national Motorcycle Industry Council, which represents all the big bike manufacturers, were unaware of any safety benefits from louder mufflers.

"We encourage all motorcycle riders to keep the original low sound levels that meet the ... federal sound limit of 80 decibels," said industry spokesman Mike Mount. "It would seem counterintuitive that a law enforcement agency would go against federal standards."

Ironically, it was just a short time back that Oakland police were called upon to crack down on noisy motorists who had modified their auto mufflers to make a whistling screech. The "whistle tip" pipes were eventually outlawed under state law.

Oakland's cops had a long tradition of riding their Harley-Davidsons with the modified, louder tail pipes, earning them the nickname "Rolling Thunder." But after an officer complained about a loss of hearing and others around town questioned whether the police force was violating the very noise standards it was supposed to enforce, the department brass ordered a switch to the quieter stock mufflers.

According to Kozicki, the decibel drop sparked a chorus of complaints from other officers, who said they felt less safe.

So last year the department launched a $1,200 study in conjunction with the city's risk management division to determine whether A) the louder motorcycles contributed to officers' safety, B) were detrimental to their hearing, and C) complied with noise standards.

Kozicki acknowledged that whatever safety-related findings the study produced were largely anecdotal. Still, after everything was taken into consideration, the department concluded "it was in the best interest of the officers to put more-audible pipes back on," Kozicki said.

Hence, all 30 of the department's Harleys were sent down to the central maintenance yard for a muffler makeover, at a cost of about $15,000, according to City Hall insiders. Another 15 newly purchased motorcycles were ordered with the louder pipes, though at no extra charge.

Oakland officials acknowledge that the noisy pipes, when tested, averaged 93 decibels - well above the federal legal noise limit, according to the Motorcycle Industry Council.

But city Finance Director Bill Nolan, who oversees the risk management division, isn't alarmed.

"If they were riding eight straight hours, it would be a problem," he said. "But they aren't."

[theronin]

double standards give me a boner.

[lflkajfj12123]

i already have a boner

[Andrew Bohan]

i have two boners, one for each standard

[canuckster240]

No one should have a right to do anything with your own private property. Imagine... your hard earned money that is heavily taxed as is, gets taken away from you.

All the excuses of "well you use it on 'public' roads" is total fascist bullshit.

I am also against the fact we can't build houses the way we want.. always bothered me how in north america you can't really build your own designed house unless you're a multi-millionaire/billionaire while in the rest of the world when people build THEIR houses, they build them, upgrade them, the way they want, they way they please as damn as they see it and as they please as it's their damn house and their property! Europe, Africa, Middle-east, wherever, anywhere. They have some really beautiful houses.

Really makes me sad we don't have real freedoms anymore that it's coming down to this kind of low level.

The rich, the elite, the government, the 'law' on the other hand can do whatever they damn please including being above the law and hypocrite all in order to keep us 'safe and secure', more like under their thumbs.

[Andrew Bohan]

that's why i'm working on being rich.

no really i am. i'm working on being rich, not just hoping that maybe i'll be rich later

[Bubbles]

i have two boners, one for each standard

I invented the word boner because my dick is being awesome was too wordy.

[Agamemnon]

Here's the same story, just spun in a different direction.
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_R_streetrace01.4234d9b.html

[Vision Garage]

Remember kids, the USA doesnt run off of theives and rapists. Its your automotive enthusiasts who keep the cops on the streets and the tickets in your pockets. No shit they can care less about REAL CRIME. There is no money in that. Why do you think they have been putting so much money into the modified cars sting operations!

[LeftNutOfGowd]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/371666144_5e9f229ecb.jpg
http://www.surfersvillage.com/gal/pictures/38172.jpg



Typical summer days in So Cal beaches.
-1 for cops
+1000 for females

The only reason why i like to live in So Cal ^^^^ :keke:

[HyperTek]

wait, the story the OP posted, isnt that shit old? or did they do it again?

the street racing crowd should still be at fault.. 50million paul walker wannabe kids is the reason we got strick car laws and cops always eyeballin us.

[lflkajfj12123]

old news

yup i said that in first post

[C. Senor]

lol....go riverside pd. gotta love them.

[Syncade]

You guys can have your beaches, those are everywhere.

93 Octane = EAST COST FTW :fawk:

[DohcKA]

fuck the east... only in the west... we on some wild wild west shit while ya bitches colonized and all that bitch shit

[oscarsx]

fuck the east... only in the west... we on some wild wild west shit while ya bitches colonized and all that bitch shit

brings back biggie and tupac memories haha :fawkd:

so... i guess its time to move out of socal:2f2f:

[FaLKoN240]

You guys all act like Cali is a horrible place to live in and that this kind of stuff happens on a daily basis.

They put up stories like this just like they put up stories about other people getting killed, raped, etc.

It's to create fear, in hopes that we'll stop "commiting crimes" like the poor suckers in that parking lot.

If fear tactics worked 100% of the time the world we'd live in would be a sad place.

[drftmark]

I fucking hate cops.

Most of the time it doesn't bother me when one gets killed.

I have come to the conclusion that 1 in every 8 cops are good, the other 7 are complete dicks.

[DohcKA]

haha wooo neg rep for being a KILLAFORNIAN.... its good tho im real hurt..... east coast is weak.... where's the chronic at... stop smoking brown

[flip3d]

Mr Officer,

Turbocharger atomizes the intake air for better combustion resulting in better mileage, more power, and cleaner emissions. I believe Volvo promotes turbochargers. They are currently airing commercials that claim their turbocharged cars recycle exhaust gases.

I can't afford a brand new Volvo but I can afford to employ this technology on my current automobile.

Why are you associating turbochargers with street racing? Does this mean that Volvos are race cars and anyone that drives one street races?





haha. you can go on all day about it.

"If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?"

What a shitty tactic. It would be so easy to knock that down.

[Vision Garage]

If you ever get pulled over, show him pictures of your car on the track. Then a wink and hopefully he will let you go!

[brewster240]

and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol

i dont seem to have a problem with yorktown cops
and i rip on it passing idiots infront of the police station coming out of town


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2031/2303914294_4e1b9967e0_o.jpg

do not pass go, do not collect $200.

you do not ripp on anything, anywhere, you do not have a car, you do not have a license.

[S13_Nightkid]

^^^^^^^^^i lol'ed for like a min when i seen that HAHAHA

[ScottMan]

fuck the east... only in the west... we on some wild wild west shit while ya bitches colonized and all that bitch shit
Haha...civil war was pretty hardcore, no?
You guys all act like Cali is a horrible place to live in and that this kind of stuff happens on a daily basis.

They put up stories like this just like they put up stories about other people getting killed, raped, etc.

It's to create fear, in hopes that we'll stop "commiting crimes" like the poor suckers in that parking lot.

If fear tactics worked 100% of the time the world we'd live in would be a sad place.
Honestly, California seems like a terrible place to live for an auto enthusiast and that has nothing to do with the media for me at least. I'm basing it totally on the 5 S-Chassis that get stolen daily from Zilvia, the constant harassing and hiding things from the law, etc. That doesn't seem so good, and I'm only basing it on what you guys say. Heck, I don't even have emissions. :D

[FaLKoN240]

Honestly, California seems like a terrible place to live for an auto enthusiast and that has nothing to do with the media for me at least. I'm basing it totally on the 5 S-Chassis that get stolen daily from Zilvia, the constant harassing and hiding things from the law, etc. That doesn't seem so good, and I'm only basing it on what you guys say. Heck, I don't even have emissions. :D

If we came on here, and preached about how wonderful it is not having to put our cars into hibernation during the winter, to avoid the attack of road salt.

Or how some of the most beautiful and ethnically diverse people (especially women) lived here.

Or talked about in some places in CA you can wear shorts and a T shirt all year long if you wanted to.

Or how you lived in a place where people come from all over the world to see, etc.

You guys not in CA would get all butt hurt and attack us saying that we're fags or gay people are a plague and live in CA, or say we have smog laws blah blah blah whatever, it's not worth telling people how cool it is to live here. You've got to experience it, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

[illvialuver]

noooo live in cali, but not in riverside.
what do you expect from a state that has a large majority of the worlds automobiles.

and that falcon punch shit is hillarious.

[ronmcdon]

Honestly, California seems like a terrible place to live for an auto enthusiast and that has nothing to do with the media for me at least. I'm basing it totally on the 5 S-Chassis that get stolen daily from Zilvia, the constant harassing and hiding things from the law, etc. That doesn't seem so good, and I'm only basing it on what you guys say. Heck, I don't even have emissions. :D

I think it depends what kinda auto enthusiast you mean. It's great if you like doing track days. I really appreciate how there's so many drift, autoX, and hdpe events out here. Seems like there's something going on every weekend within 2hr drive from Los Angeles. You don't get that everywhere. There's also a lot of great roads. I live right by Mulholland Dr and Sunset Blvd. A lot of appreciating CA is a matter of adaptation.

Driving in swapped cars here is frustrating, but it's great if you drive relatively stock fun car around. I have yet have any one hassle me for driving my stock evo around town, and these days I only use my 240sx for autoX duty. It would be difficult if it were my only car. No problems here whatsoever.

[ronmcdon]

If we came on here, and preached about how wonderful it is not having to put our cars into hibernation during the winter, to avoid the attack of road salt.

Or how some of the most beautiful and ethnically diverse people (especially women) lived here.

Or talked about in some places in CA you can wear shorts and a T shirt all year long if you wanted to.

Or how you lived in a place where people come from all over the world to see, etc.

You guys not in CA would get all butt hurt and attack us saying that we're fags or gay people are a plague and live in CA, or say we have smog laws blah blah blah whatever, it's not worth telling people how cool it is to live here. You've got to experience it, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

Well said. Despite all the undesirables, there's really much to be said for CA. There's so many different cities and places to visit, several with their own distinctive personality. For example, say you tired of say living in San Francisco, you move to Berkeley. Even within the Los Angeles country, you get several different centers of things to do. So many restaurants, clubs/drinking holes, concerts, auto events, etc. Its difficult to really get sick of the place.

I think as long as you avoid living in certain undesirable areas, live close to where you work as to not get stuck in commuter hell, etc, you should be fine. The club curfew at 2am here, lack of general nightlife, and lack of mass transit are really the only things that bothers me.

[zerooath]

I cant take my eyes of ESmorz signature.

Totally off topic, but then again, is it?

[warpd]

If we came on here, and preached about how wonderful it is not having to put our cars into hibernation during the winter, to avoid the attack of road salt.

Or how some of the most beautiful and ethnically diverse people (especially women) lived here.

Or talked about in some places in CA you can wear shorts and a T shirt all year long if you wanted to.

Or how you lived in a place where people come from all over the world to see, etc.

You guys not in CA would get all butt hurt and attack us saying that we're fags or gay people are a plague and live in CA, or say we have smog laws blah blah blah whatever, it's not worth telling people how cool it is to live here. You've got to experience it, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

What about Florida? My mom and sister live in Tampa and its kinda like California except without as many wierdos, and no lame automotive laws.

[Future240]

What i am curiuos about is how is that legal, how can cars be searched when they are not doing anything wrong? I understand if they were actually street racing, but if they are just sitting in a parking lot, how can cops legally search their cars without warrants?

[spoolandslide]

what about certain religious persons...

that have dicks... they dont need those right?

[HyperTek]

What about Florida? My mom and sister live in Tampa and its kinda like California except without as many wierdos, and no lame automotive laws.

pretty sure florida is cool, he was just sticking up for cali and giving the pros about living here since alot of people tend to judge cali for its strict auto laws.

[warpd]

pretty sure florida is cool, he was just sticking up for cali and giving the pros about living here since alot of people tend to judge cali for its strict auto laws.

Right I understand that it just seems to me Florida has all the (or most of)benefits of Cali without the bullshit.

[ESmorz]

Right I understand that it just seems to me Florida has all the (or most of)benefits of Cali without the bullshit.

Except the fact that it has tropical humidity.

Fuck humidity in it's stupid ass.

:rl:

[PhilthyS13]

What i am curiuos about is how is that legal, how can cars be searched when they are not doing anything wrong? I understand if they were actually street racing, but if they are just sitting in a parking lot, how can cops legally search their cars without warrants?

Because they are equipment infractions, not criminal searches. They don't count for points like a moving violation and unless your stuff is stolen, they can't arrest you. It's like having a headlight out or no front plate - you can be pulled over.

Although in this particular situation, the cops said that there was evidence of street racing, so that is how they were able to search.

My opinion about busting these types of meets: look at Oakland sideshows. They used to occur in side parking lots, hence the "side." When Oakland passed a new law requiring lot owners to chain the lots at night, the sideshows ended up on the street. Waaaay to go.

It was the same for graffiti in SF. There used to be a spot called Psycho City. As Mayor, Feinstein had the bright idea to close it. The result: graffiti spilled all over the neighborhoods.

I think as long as people aren't doing anything overtly wrong, the cops should let them be. But this is a revenue maneuver, so that's most likely why they did it.


Some things never change. Cops messing with modified cars goes back to when young people could finally get cars. Once kids could get ahold of used model t's and other hot rods, they'd modify them and the cops would mess with them. Name a decade when the cops didn't mess with modified cars. Lowriders in the 60's and 70's got messed with ALL THE TIME. I think that's where the "soda can test" came from. My dad went through the same shit when he had a 67 Malibu in the early 70's. Look at popular culture like movies such as American Graffiti: kids driving used cars that they fixed up, running from the cops trying to race/cruise girls. (Hell, the nerd lived the car enthusiast's dream: he actually got a girl.) It's funny, because as each generation grows up, the new generation gets fucked with. I'd be willing to bet that 15-20 years from now (if our economy doesn't meltdown from oil) that you could drive a loud ass s chassis and the cops would look at you and remember the good old days.



And as far as the east coast west coast thing. What is this? The source awards? They are advantages/drawbacks to east, west, north, south and midwest. If all the places were the same it would suck. It would be like eating the same thing every day. Stop hating, because although you may have 93 octane and $75,000.00 houses, we have things that you don't. As a Northern Californian, I have to say that I like living here.

Cons:
- draconian smog laws
- nothing is legal in terms of car mods
- rampant car thefts
- DiFi-led weapons bans
- Million dollar fixer-upper houses
- It's damn expensive
- Tons and tons of people (traffic)

Pros:
- world class surfing and snowboarding within 3 hours of each other
- plenty of jobs, high pay
- Great weather overall
- Many aftermarket parts cos. are based here
- We're closer to Japan than 45 other states
- Diversity
- Tons and tons of people (girls)

We have smog laws because we are the most populous state and until we had these laws, the air sucked. True, we have some of the most polluted air in the country - but imagine how bad it would be without those laws! If you live in a state without emissions, be prepared for smog laws because they are bound to happen. I'm not some Inconvenient Truth conspiracist, but I do think we need to do something about the environment. Check out this map of CO2 producers, and you'll see why I think smog laws are coming to a neighborhood near you:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/PhilthyPhilanthropist/co2map.jpg
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008a/080407GurneyVulcan.html
The east coast emits waaay more CO2 than CA.

As far as car theives and expensive houses: of course we have those because there are so many people here. We are the foreclosure capital because we are the most populous state, which means we have more of everything. That just comes with the territory. More people = more possibilities of hot girls. But also more problems because there's more stupid people to fuck it up for the rest of us. Here's an excerpt of an article about car thefts:
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/105401/America's-Car-Theft-Hot-Spots
"One huge factor is that there are more vehicles in California than any other state, making it a target-rich environment to begin with," says Frank Scafidi, NICB spokesman. "The proximity to international borders and seaports is also a factor. Both are widely used in the illegal exportation of stolen vehicles."

But the main attractions are the car theft hot spots conveniently located near the Mexican border. A quick trip across and crooks can quickly unload stolen cars--or their parts--without hassle or question. That's why Texas, New Mexico and Arizona are "all high-theft states" as well, Scafidi notes.


The gist: because we have more people than anybody else, problems are magnified. We have more cars, which means more smog - so we have those laws. Because we have tons of people, things like assault weapons cause problems, so they are severly restricted. Like it or not, we also a bellwether state.

So can we stop all the Cali bashing? Please?

[PhilthyS13]

Right I understand that it just seems to me Florida has all the (or most of)benefits of Cali without the bullshit.


We don't have hurricanes. But we do have earthquakes...

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=&vid=d9a1089a-cc58-4a97-b0a2-f98a148fde34

[s13coupedrfter]

This sucks that this thread is becoming a east vs. west thing. Give it up people.

Police crackdowns such as these is why I'm going Ls1. If I get messed with I can get it smogged no prob. Hell, the cop might even be impressed seeing a small block in the s13 bay.

There is always loop holes in the system. I think more people are going to feel the crunch as time goes on and start swapping in usdm motors more like VQ, Ls1, (etc). If I can't swap my 205 hp sr20det then fine, I'll just install a 325 hp Ls1.

I know cost is a issue so those looking for more power can install the Greddy smog legal turbo kit on there ka24 and the next time the fuzz pops your hood you can shove that carb # up his ass.

[ESmorz]

http://www.uic.edu/orgs/kbc/hiphop/images/beef.jpg

[lflkajfj12123]

you guys fucking blow

get out of here with this rap east vs west coast shit

LOCK'ed