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GTS
07-14-2008, 10:37 AM
Hi guys

I've had these 2 issues for a long time and I only have some ideas of the problem, but can't really confirm so I was wondering if anyone could provide more insight.

Turbo: TD06 20G
BOV: Greddy Type RS
Controller: AEM Tru Boost

Duty cycle: 55%
Spring pressure: 5-6psi (depending on how hard I want boost to kick in)
BOV: left it as it came from the factory

1st Issue: When I lift at less than 7psi of boost, it vents followed by the flutter sound. When I lift at anything higher than 8psi, there's a straight wooshing venting sound (assumed to the way the RS is suppose to sound).

Resolution?
I can't be sure if the flutter sound is being caused by the not being opened all the way OR if it's actually compression surge because the BOV isn't opening at all. Keep in mind that it does vent but it also has the flutter sound. I believe that if I tighten the BOV, it will eliminte the flutter sound, but then I have apprehensions about the BOV being too tight and causing too much pressure. Your thoughts?

2nd Issue: Increasing the crack/spring pressure on the controller causes me to have erratic boost readings. When I set the crack pressure at 3psi, the turbo spools slower (running on stock WG) but it holds the pressure more consistently. When I increase the crack pressure, it spools much faster (with erratic spikes) then it fluctuates all across the board (5-9psi), eventually, it settles to 7psi.

Resolution?
I believe it's related to the BOV. I think the BOV is releasing early, causing the controller to NOT hold pressure.

What are your thoughts?

Z33dori
07-14-2008, 11:11 AM
loossen the spring on your bov to get rid of the compressor surge

GTS
07-14-2008, 11:40 AM
From what I guess...if I loosen, then it'll make my second problem worse.

!Zar!
07-14-2008, 11:41 AM
Is this the Greddy turbo kit?

Are you using that shitty internal wastegate that comes attached to the 20g?

If so, that's why your car is boosting all fucked up, and it is compressor surge.

Compressor surge under light boost really isn't problematic.

GTS
07-14-2008, 11:54 AM
The turbo is internally gated. Anyway to remedy this without using an external gate?

Z33dori
07-14-2008, 11:58 AM
hks wastegate actuator

best money can buy .... internally anyways

GTS
07-14-2008, 12:09 PM
So in summary....

the BOV needs to be loosened to address issue #1.

But issue 2 is caused by the internal wastegate on the 20g. It is opening too early. Switching to an HKS will effectively increase the wastegate pressure so that it holds higher pressure.

Is this right?

S14DB
07-14-2008, 12:12 PM
The flutter sound is normal at low boost let off.

!Zar!
07-14-2008, 03:28 PM
What you are supposed to do is weld the flapper shut and buy an external wastegate. It's more than just the wastegate I believe.

So unless you want to bore out the wastegate hole and weld on a bigger flapper, your best bet is to go external.

20g internal setup is notorious for boost creep.

Don't loosen your bov, it's fine.

Z33dori
07-14-2008, 03:38 PM
i know 2 sr running 20gs and are not having any problems running a 20g with KS waste gate

and my friend had a internal 20g on his srt4 and has no problem with it leaking.. its on a hans wastegate

so imma say its the greddy wastegate and not the 20g flapper