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Gnnr
07-10-2008, 09:59 PM
I don't know if anyone else is following this but I find it to be quite entertaining. All the automakers coming out with supercars are battling it out on the Nürburgring (Nordschleife). :D

So here's what has happened so far:

Nissan pits the GTR against the Porsche 911 Turbo (997) during testing to beat its record time of 7:40. They squeeze out 7:38. (Note the Corvette C6 Z06 did it in 7:42.99).

Round 1: GT-R vs. 911 Turbo at the 'Ring, advantage GT-R - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/22/round-1-gt-r-vs-911-turbo-at-the-ring-advantage-gt-r/)

Meanwhile a few weeks later the Pagani Zonda F sets a record of 7:27:82

King of the 'Ring: Pagani Zonda F sets new Norschleife lap record - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/19/king-of-the-ring-pagani-zonda-f-sets-new-norschleife-lap-recor/)

VIDEO: Zonda F laps the Nurburgring in 7:27.82 - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/19/video-zonda-f-laps-the-nurburgring-in-7-27-82/)

Toyota (well...Lexus) decides it wants to join the party and unofficially laps a 7:24 in the LF-A test mule.

Lexus LF-A mule unseats Porsche GT2 as King of the 'Ring - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/28/lexus-lf-a-unseats-porsche-gt2-as-king-of-the-ring/)

Nissan though, is not just testing the GTR, but alos the V-Spec version and it nets an unofficial time of 7:25.

Nissan GT-R V-Spec lap times stun observers - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/08/nissan-gt-r-v-spec-lap-times-stun-observers/)

So here is where the drama really starts. Chevy gives The Green Hell a try with the Corvette ZR-1 and reportedly gets a time "in the low 7:40s". Online shit talking ensues between both fanbases. :keke:

Corvette ZR-1 'Ring times in low 7:40s, GT-R V-Spec amused - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/corvette-zr-1-ring-times-in-low-7-40s-gt-r-v-spec-amused/)

Chevy itself joins in on smack talk and says the GT-R won't be King of the 'Ring for long.

Corvette ZR1 engineer says GT-R won't be King of the 'Ring for long - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/02/corvette-zr1-engineer-says-gt-r-wont-be-king-of-the-ring-for-l/)

Nissan lets the time do the smack talking and officially laps The Ring in the GTR (non V-Spec) in 7:29.

VIDEO: Nissan GT-R 7:29 'Ring run - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/01/video-nissan-gt-r-7-29-ring-run/)

Meanwhile Honda CEO Takeo Fukui says, "Hoooooooollllddd up Goshn. We can top that son!" And plans to have its next supercar bring in lower times than the GTR.

Honda CEO demands NSX be faster around 'Ring than GT-R - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/18/honda-ceo-demands-nsx-be-faster-around-ring-than-gt-r/)

They go out and get a 7:37, they're back to the drawing board for now.

NSX laps 'Ring unofficially at 7:37 - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/nsx-laps-ring-unofficially-at-7-37/)

Porsche not happy that the GTR did away with their 997 plans to make revisions to the 911 Turbo to beat Nissan's time.

Spy Shots: Porsche 911 Turbo due for upgrades, intent on beating GT-R - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/25/spy-shots-porsche-911-turbo-due-for-upgrades-intent-on-beating/)

We haven't seen the last of them, after all they have the ability to run their engines at the ring virtually. :eek:

VIDEO: Porsche engine runs the 'Ring, virtually - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/27/video-porsche-engine-runs-the-ring-virtually/)

Soooo Chevy disappointed with its previous time doesn't give up, and laps the ring in 7:26.4 in the Corvette ZR-1.

Gauntlet thrown: Corvette ZR1 laps the 'Ring in 7:26.4 - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/27/gauntlet-thrown-corvette-zr1-laps-the-ring-in-7-26-4/)

VIDEO: GM releases Corvette ZR1's 7:26.4 'Ring attack - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/10/video-gm-releases-corvette-zr1s-7-26-4-ring-attack/)

Which brings us to today, where we await Nissan's response with an official lap time for the GTR V-Spec. Remember it has netted an unofficial time of 7:25 in testing. I'm pretty sure they're going to try to beat that and Toyota's time as well, who unofficially is wearing the crown with a time of 7:24. :2f2f:

Chaws15
07-10-2008, 10:03 PM
<3
msglngth

TiNMAN
07-10-2008, 11:12 PM
nissan ftmfwDOO

veeates36
07-11-2008, 10:36 AM
How can i watch this..?

Mi Beardo es Loco
07-11-2008, 10:44 AM
As I was reading this I could do nothing but imagine the Mortal Kombat house song in the background.

It's just sad that a near $200,000 supercar that was designed for racing set it's sights on a car half it's price. What's wrong with domestics these days?

BustedS13
07-11-2008, 11:17 AM
corvette > *

when the ZR1 drops, the bullshit stops



It's just sad that a near $200,000 supercar that was designed for racing set it's sights on a car half it's price. What's wrong with domestics these days?

surely you aren't talking about the ZR1, which retails for $102,000? i could see where you'd think it's a $200,000 supercar, being as ill as it is.

VROOOM
07-11-2008, 11:30 AM
the ZR1 will be just like the GTR when it comes out, 150k price tag i bet.

dert420sx
07-11-2008, 11:37 AM
How can i watch this..?

i think i remember a thread a while back that had a link to a webcam that showed what cars lined up at the start.

i'm at work right now so i don't have much time to search for the thread. anyone remember?

BustedS13
07-11-2008, 11:58 AM
the ZR1 will be just like the GTR when it comes out, 150k price tag i bet.

no, i'm pretty sure the zr1 comes with a clutch pedal

Gnnr
07-11-2008, 12:09 PM
How can i watch this..?

Huh? Most of the links I posted up have videos on Youtube of their laps.

Edit: Here are some.

Pagani Zonda F
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTMcobEzcno

One I forgot to mention, the 911 GT2 997 Takes the Nurburgring in 7:32
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/911-GT2-997-Takes-the-in_144810.htm

Porsche Lapping its Engine Virtually
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv53RbvgfGc

Nissan GTR (non V-Spec) doing 7:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLdaLV66XOc

Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 lapping 7:26.4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mEirkQN8o

Z33dori
07-11-2008, 12:56 PM
yea battles of the green hell are the best ....

im anxiously awaiting the ACR Viper times...

Firestorm
07-11-2008, 01:05 PM
i just watched the corvette onboard vid and honestly i feel scared. because the car looks so unsteady and twitchy...i mean, its fast, but its not smooth.

BustedS13
07-11-2008, 01:25 PM
i just watched the corvette onboard vid and honestly i feel scared. because the car looks so unsteady and twitchy...i mean, its fast, but its not smooth.

for a car setting the record on the nurburgring it's fine. imagine going balls out in a 240sx on there. i'd wager it would be a bit twitchier.

Antihero983
07-11-2008, 01:44 PM
i dont give a fuck which car wins, i just think its fucking awesome in general there's a fucking arms race going on around the ring!!!!

Z33dori
07-11-2008, 02:27 PM
i just watched the corvette onboard vid and honestly i feel scared. because the car looks so unsteady and twitchy...i mean, its fast, but its not smooth.

i've seen way worse...


the driver seems like he was completely in control.... possibly the best handling vette, thanks to the weight bias being more on the front now.

ILoveMyRHS13
07-11-2008, 02:36 PM
Someone mentioned the Nurburgring webcam?

http://nuerburgring.de/fileadmin/webcam/webcam.jpg

Gnnr
07-11-2008, 03:13 PM
i dont give a fuck which car wins, i just think its fucking awesome in general there's a fucking arms race going on around the ring!!!!

Thats what I'm saying. :D I think its a good direction instead of focusing on top speed, or 0-60, or HP, 1/4 mile times...this is more interesting.

Anyways, the start/stop time and start/stop points are being argued so Garage419 has done a side by side comparison of the GTR and ZR1 with an independent timer.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/11/video-garage419-split-screens-the-zr-1-and-gt-r-ring-laps/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ-CNFpPCnk

Z33dori
07-11-2008, 03:34 PM
now thats awesome

Somnambulist
07-11-2008, 04:36 PM
Sweet. Good find.

sideways7
07-11-2008, 09:58 PM
This is the type of rivalry that will hopefully produce some badass cars, regardless of who wins.




And no matter which car is the fastest, I would taka a Zonda over any of those other cars.

Gnnr
08-28-2008, 09:44 PM
This just in (well, sort of) Viper ACR laps it in 7:22.1

Unofficial: Dodge Viper ACR laps 'Ring in record 7:22.1 [w/VIDEO] - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/27/unofficial-dodge-viper-acr-laps-ring-in-record-7-22-1-w-video/)

SexPanda
08-28-2008, 10:48 PM
So...

Im kinda waiting for that uot of left field manufacturer to just go ape shit on all these cars with a yet to be known prototype...

Im thinking... Peugot lol.