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crazyikimasho
07-09-2008, 06:54 PM
Our first two just arrived today!

http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival2.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival3.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival4.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival5.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival6.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival7.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival8.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival9.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival10.jpg
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrarrival15.jpg

...more pics to follow

usdm180sx
07-09-2008, 06:58 PM
Wow. What's teh markup?

blasting_speed
07-09-2008, 07:03 PM
How much are they costing??? I hope i can pick one up in 10 years with +100k miles on it. (whistles) That's a dream come true. ahahahah

ferris
07-09-2008, 07:03 PM
nice, oh so nice

crazyikimasho
07-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Wow. What's teh markup?

Sticker markup makes them around $109,000

JDMB0iKT
07-09-2008, 07:08 PM
oooohhhhh their so nice:jerkit:

asianflip06
07-09-2008, 07:18 PM
Silver GTR came into our Nissan shop today for a tire light issue...That thing was bad ass. Found out he was a journalist writing a story for a doctors magazine. Then he took people out for joy rides. LOL he took it up past 100mph in the back roads.

crazyikimasho
07-09-2008, 07:19 PM
Silver GTR came into our Nissan shop today for a tire light issue...That thing was bad ass. Found out he was a journalist writing a story for a doctors magazine. Then he took people out for joy rides. LOL he took it up past 100mph in the back roads.

Yeah thats one of the Nissan media cars.

s!lv!a
07-09-2008, 07:33 PM
that's just plain sick.. i can't wait to just see one in person.. i'd die happy if i ever got to drive one.. lol, and they'd have a hell of a time trying to catch me if i ever got to drive one.. hahaha

holybushoffire
07-09-2008, 07:40 PM
Like I've said before, I can't afford the first American GTR, but when I'm done with school (7 years) I'll be buying the next one... =)

status:one
07-09-2008, 07:42 PM
I have yet to see one in person. Can't wait.

racepar1
07-09-2008, 07:45 PM
I'll take 2 of em............. In 20 years when I'm rich as fuck that is.

ROUGE180
07-09-2008, 07:53 PM
Wow even the underside is the business. Is that panel carbon? Im sure it is. How does the interior feel/look in person? Im sure you sat in it.

Unique
07-09-2008, 07:54 PM
its about time, nice

alty319
07-09-2008, 08:06 PM
god damn thats sick..i think i just fabbed.

brndck
07-09-2008, 08:08 PM
wow! 16/21 mpg? ouch. but still so yummy!

dirtdiggler666
07-09-2008, 08:13 PM
i also have still yet to see one, its about time they came to the states and at the worst time at that:ugh:

norbac
07-09-2008, 08:17 PM
so could we just go there and... ahem.. go take it for a spin, you know, we'll do the secret zilvia handshake? haha, no bueno? how bout we sit in one and pretend that we're driving, lol

SinisterSntra91
07-09-2008, 08:18 PM
wonder how long it will be before we see pictures of the first totaled or wrecked one...

MikeisNissan
07-09-2008, 08:19 PM
SO fucking sexy! I will be getting one one day. But Z06's get better MPG!

ZX88
07-09-2008, 08:32 PM
i was suprised about the gas mileage too. but if you think about it if you can afford a car like that you probably dont give a shit about gas.

LA_phantom_240
07-09-2008, 08:38 PM
Oh... those look so nasty... yet so hot.

Neejay
07-09-2008, 08:42 PM
Sticker markup makes them around $109,000
Holy shit! Almost $40k added on?!?!

I'm loving the black GT-Rs though! Those are hawt.

gotta240
07-09-2008, 08:59 PM
So what does it take to test drive one? Seriously.

I'm sure there are hundreds of people who want to joyride that thing daily. Is good credit enough?

YoungGun
07-09-2008, 09:02 PM
I'll take the silver one, thanks.

crazyikimasho
07-09-2008, 09:16 PM
Wow even the underside is the business. Is that panel carbon? Im sure it is. How does the interior feel/look in person? Im sure you sat in it.

Yes that is carbon. The interior is high quality, well laid out. Very comfortable and well designed.

So what does it take to test drive one? Seriously.

I'm sure there are hundreds of people who want to joyride that thing daily. Is good credit enough?

Not going to happen. Even the buyer cannot drive the car until the sales contract is signed.

mothon
07-09-2008, 09:22 PM
Wow huge markup....Have those two already been sold?

mayco_86
07-09-2008, 09:24 PM
Wow huge markup....Have those two already been sold?

Am sure they have been sold already.

burnsauto
07-09-2008, 09:30 PM
wow..what a fap-fest.

keep dreamin guys ;)

crazyikimasho
07-09-2008, 09:34 PM
Am sure they have been sold already.

Yes. We have ~11 deposits.

sijia10358
07-09-2008, 09:38 PM
they look soo nice!!

dorkidori_s13
07-09-2008, 09:42 PM
can i get one of those in single turbo, RWD, 2 less cylinders, in a manual tranny and with a silvia badge on it please??? lol ;)

those cars look awesome...but with the sad state of how most people drive who own cars like that...that CF panel at the bottom of the car is gonna get fukin TRASHED :(

think i might cruise over to the centennial center nissan dealership in the next day or so and see if they have one on the lot...would be interesting and fun to see in person finally :D

beeracing s14
07-09-2008, 09:43 PM
i wonder how much women that car can add into my fantasies just by having it? gotta turn my GALculator on.

carnagexxxx
07-09-2008, 09:43 PM
wow! 16/21 mpg? ouch. but still so yummy!

It's like when the guy who hit the lottery goes to the Lamborgini dealership asks "where's the spare tire?" and the dealer says, "sir, when you can afford a Lamborghini, you don't worry about such things."

buuut, lol, the first thing I really noticed was that sticker :rawk:

JRas
07-09-2008, 09:45 PM
Why is the price so high?! website MSRP reads

GT-R base $69,850
GT-R Premium Edition $71,900

burnsauto
07-09-2008, 09:57 PM
Why is the price so high?! website MSRP reads

GT-R base $69,850
GT-R Premium Edition $71,900

taxes.......

JRas
07-09-2008, 10:03 PM
Why is the price so high?! website MSRP reads

GT-R base $69,850
GT-R Premium Edition $71,900

taxes.......

$109,000 - $71,900 = $37,100... that's quite a tax

babowc
07-09-2008, 10:11 PM
no.
luxury tax.
;)

dtc 360RT
07-10-2008, 01:26 AM
i saw the shipment come in on the docks, my buddy is a long shoreman casual, called me over......i heard one of them got scratched unloading, true?

Nismospec19
07-10-2008, 01:32 AM
NICE
BEEN IN THE JDM 1
MONTHS BAACK Thing is nicely Built loved it LHD though should stay that way no RHD on GTRs Uk but otherwise YAY FOR USDM GTR

Twinchy
07-10-2008, 01:39 AM
wow they look nice..
got this link from one of my friends any of you guys see it ?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/First-GTR-sold-in-the-USA_170244.htm

*sorry if its a repost*

Avante
07-10-2008, 01:47 AM
no.
luxury tax.
;)

plus gas guzzler tax too, no?

either way, thats a mother of a mark up.

but hey, when you can lay down 100k+ for a nissan...

who cares!

DALAZ_68
07-10-2008, 02:01 AM
i saw the shipment come in on the docks, my buddy is a long shoreman casual, called me over......i heard one of them got scratched unloading, true?that should take about 10,000 off the sticker:keke:

CKAMC
07-10-2008, 04:00 AM
its just a premie price for those that want one RIGHT now

I am sure it will tapper off once they have them sitting there for sale.

SR_Elliott24
07-10-2008, 04:23 AM
I really cant wait to see one of these in person. Ive already seen the new dodge challenger and I thought that looked pretty nice. But the GTR just looks so bad ass and at 16 mpg/21mpg it better be the way gas prices are going.

fliprayzin240sx
07-10-2008, 04:51 AM
Gawdamn...almost $40k on mark up?!?! Thats Porsche 911 territory, I thought the whole point of this car is to kick porsche's ass on a budget...

a_ahmed
07-10-2008, 05:00 AM
oooh sexy! :D *glued to thread* teehee

GSXRJJordan
07-10-2008, 05:06 AM
This will outperform the Porsche 911 in every way, shape and form. It was designed to outperform the 911 turbo, which goes for about $140k.

Still more expensive than the C6 Z06, but not by much. Still less expensive than the Ford GT, and every Ferrari/Lambo. Not a bad spot to be in for a true supercar.

gregfarz78
07-10-2008, 05:41 AM
I'm sorry but its really sickening to see dealerships mark them up that much it kinda defeats the purpose of a somewhat affordable GTR...I could even understand 10k markup for the initial run but 40k? I'd pass and get a ZR1 instead, Nissan should take a note from GM and put these dealerships in line when they try to mark them up so much.

02BRB20
07-10-2008, 05:45 AM
^dude chill out, its not going to be like that months from now.

its marked up so dealerships can take advantage of rich tools who dont care about markup thus making the markup go up that much higher, greed baby, its a deadly sin

gregfarz78
07-10-2008, 05:50 AM
^dude chill out, its not going to be like that months from now.

its marked up so dealerships can take advantage of rich tools who dont care about markup thus making the markup go up that much higher, greed baby, its a deadly sin

oh I totally understand that but it doesnt make it right, dealerships are just being greedy nissan doesnt see any of that extra mark up it all goes to the dealership. Chevy dealers tried to pull this shit with the ZR1 and GM is at least attempted to put a stop to it.

Canaduh
07-10-2008, 06:20 AM
So did west covina buy all that equipment you need to service the GT-R's than? How much did that stuff cost :cj:

Neejay
07-10-2008, 06:54 AM
I'm sorry but its really sickening to see dealerships mark them up that much it kinda defeats the purpose of a somewhat affordable GTR...I could even understand 10k markup for the initial run but 40k? I'd pass and get a ZR1 instead, Nissan should take a note from GM and put these dealerships in line when they try to mark them up so much.

^dude chill out, its not going to be like that months from now.

its marked up so dealerships can take advantage of rich tools who dont care about markup thus making the markup go up that much higher, greed baby, its a deadly sin

oh I totally understand that but it doesnt make it right, dealerships are just being greedy nissan doesnt see any of that extra mark up it all goes to the dealership. Chevy dealers tried to pull this shit with the ZR1 and GM is at least attempted to put a stop to it.
I completely agree. But the world is all about money. It's all about "let's see how much we can squeeze from people". Money, Money, Money.

ScottMan
07-10-2008, 08:07 AM
How many of you, if you owned a dealership, wouldn't mark up a GT-R when everyone else is doing it? Seriously. Ask yourselves? It is not greed, it's good business. Your responsibility is keeping your dealership in the black, and this helps, so you do it. If you wouldn't, never put yourself in a position of power in a for-profit company.

I thought the GT-R was kinda ugly in the earlier pics. It looked very short and bulbous. When you see it moving it seems to look lower, sleeker, and longer, and that is awesome. It looks phenomenal. I love it!

Icy13
07-10-2008, 08:14 AM
wow! 16/21 mpg? ouch. but still so yummy!

How can you possibly read the window sticker with the rakishly sloping roofline? :yum:

Icy13
07-10-2008, 08:21 AM
How many of you, if you owned a dealership, wouldn't mark up a GT-R when everyone else is doing it? Seriously. Ask yourselves? It is not greed, it's good business.

Look, I don't want to derail this thread, but seriously? It's greed. The fact that it may be 'good for business' may help you sleep at night but this is still the Nuremberg defense, people. Just cause it's legal doesn't make it right.

Back on topic, GT-R is pure sex. It's not bulbous it's muscular. Seriously, the rear quarters of the r34 and r35 make me want to :wackit: (this is such a dirty emoticon, damn!)

s14_legend
07-10-2008, 08:27 AM
woot for new skyline...

C. Anderson
07-10-2008, 08:39 AM
I can't wait to see one in person. Then again I can't wait to see a VR38-VETT swapped 240 either. :2f2f:

piranhamatt
07-10-2008, 08:45 AM
Definitely one of the most badass clusters I've seen in a stock car.

gregfarz78
07-10-2008, 08:52 AM
How many of you, if you owned a dealership, wouldn't mark up a GT-R when everyone else is doing it? Seriously. Ask yourselves? It is not greed, it's good business. Your responsibility is keeping your dealership in the black, and this helps, so you do it. If you wouldn't, never put yourself in a position of power in a for-profit company.

I thought the GT-R was kinda ugly in the earlier pics. It looked very short and bulbous. When you see it moving it seems to look lower, sleeker, and longer, and that is awesome. It looks phenomenal. I love it!

Good business is marking up 40k? Like I said I can almost accept 10k but marking a car up 50% over msrp is just ripping off customers. Also I'd tell them to go pound sand if they wouldnt let me drive it before dropping 100k+ on a car people put deposits down on these cars probably over a year ago and they can't even drive one first?

macidcrook
07-10-2008, 08:56 AM
So did west covina buy all that equipment you need to service the GT-R's than? How much did that stuff cost :cj:

only dealers that buy the equipment and send some techs to training can sell and service the GT-R. im sure the tools were expensive but 40k mark up im sure they'll make the money back soon. :)




more pics will be turning up like these soon im sure.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s181/macidcrook/24032008495.jpg

piranhamatt
07-10-2008, 09:01 AM
^ I just threw up a little.

kognition
07-10-2008, 09:04 AM
Beautiful car, but sounds like a real headache with all those restrictions on wheels and going to the track from what i have read. Bring on the new Silvia allready! Were waiting.......

ScottMan
07-10-2008, 09:06 AM
Good business is marking up 40k? Like I said I can almost accept 10k but marking a car up 50% over msrp is just ripping off customers. Also I'd tell them to go pound sand if they wouldnt let me drive it before dropping 100k+ on a car people put deposits down on these cars probably over a year ago and they can't even drive one first?
And quite frankly, that's also why you're whining about the mark-up. Guess who doesn't worry about mark-up? People who have the money and the desire to be the first to own. It's a necessary tax to them. You'd tell them to "pound sand" and they'd laugh at you and point you to the end of the line of people more than willing to pay. You charge what the market will bear or you go the way of the Dodo.

Sorry for going so OT. I'm done with that part now.


I can't WAIT to see these start coming up tastefully modded. That plus some coil-overs, nice wheels...wow.

i8yourfwd
07-10-2008, 09:10 AM
I have to change my pants :/

Nan Desu Ka?!
07-10-2008, 09:15 AM
I have to change my pants :/

ditto.

themessageyouhaveenteredistooshort, blah blah its been so long i forgot how to get around that.

nismo tuned s14
07-10-2008, 09:27 AM
i hope that markup disappears within the next four or five years. im already saving for one thats two or three years old lol. that 109k is killing my dreams tho.

this is one of the few cars that i could leave pretty much stock and still be happy.

usdm180sx
07-10-2008, 09:54 AM
And quite frankly, that's also why you're whining about the mark-up. Guess who doesn't worry about mark-up? People who have the money and the desire to be the first to own. It's a necessary tax to them. You'd tell them to "pound sand" and they'd laugh at you and point you to the end of the line of people more than willing to pay. You charge what the market will bear or you go the way of the Dodo.

Sorry for going so OT. I'm done with that part now.


I can't WAIT to see these start coming up tastefully modded. That plus some coil-overs, nice wheels...wow.

Well, most people with money to spend worked hard for it. I don't think those people would be willing to spend $30-$40k over list. They'll look elsewhere. I know a dealer that's selling 2 as well, but they are only marked up $8k and $10 over. Smart people with money will look around.

crazyikimasho
07-10-2008, 10:29 AM
As for the markup, its supply and demand. People are paying it for a car thats in limited production for this year.
When gas prices went up, did you stop buying gas?

I'm sorry but its really sickening to see dealerships mark them up that much it kinda defeats the purpose of a somewhat affordable GTR...I could even understand 10k markup for the initial run but 40k? I'd pass and get a ZR1 instead, Nissan should take a note from GM and put these dealerships in line when they try to mark them up so much.

Have you by chance noticed the financial status of GM. They arent doing so hot.

So did west covina buy all that equipment you need to service the GT-R's than? How much did that stuff cost :cj:

Of course we did, in addition to having techs GT-R Certified. For what we paid it will be well worth it.

kognition
07-10-2008, 10:47 AM
Would have seemed a better business decision to continue producing the S Chassis instead of a car that is like 5 years behind production schedule allready. Can i get an Amen on that?

ROUGE180
07-10-2008, 10:58 AM
KOGNITION AMEN!!!! Don't get me wrong. The GTR is in a class of it's own but the lack of S Chassis goodness was a big mistake on Nissan imo. They could have made wayyyy more money over the years. The S15 would have done really well over here. But back to the original post.. DAMN .. I would be drooling if I worked there. Probably not getting much work done though. Just mostly sitting in the showroom punching potential buyers that looked like douche bags.

iwishiwas-all*
07-10-2008, 11:02 AM
Beautiful car, but sounds like a real headache with all those restrictions on wheels and going to the track from what i have read. Bring on the new Silvia allready! Were waiting.......

the wheels... yes but they allready have ways around it.... the tracks not en estados unidos amigo hahahaha

azndoc
07-10-2008, 11:03 AM
I would just keep it in the garage.

Make love to it.

Slowly and tenderly.

!Zar!
07-10-2008, 11:37 AM
You people are crying like you had the 70 cash/loan in hand and went to the dealership to pay for one.

What the fuck difference does it make?

Obviously the 11~ people who put money down before even being able to see one in person don't.

They could sell it for 150k and people would still buy them.

It's all about if people are willing to pay for it or not.

Shit, Veilside is selling their 4509 body kits for 30k or something.

Think that shit will stop people for buying that?

No.

Vehicles that are in high demand are always marked up.

Just like the Kawasaki 250r that came out. Msrp is supposed to be 3.4k and shops are trying to sell them for 5.6+ in some places.

Yet some people are still willing to pay for it.

Just like the old saying goes, if you have to ask how much it costs, you probably can't afford one.

dr1ft32
07-10-2008, 11:47 AM
^^ amen to that saying

Mr. Jesse
07-10-2008, 11:47 AM
I will pay you $500 for a test drive!!!! :bigok:
no? haha

!Zar!
07-10-2008, 12:03 PM
$500 won't cover the cost if the car is damaged, nor the loss of losing a potential buyer because they whine about the car looking used.

adrians_s13
07-10-2008, 12:07 PM
wow... I can't wait to see some of those bad boys on the street. NICE!

Hopefully in like 2015... I can probably get a 2009 model, lulz

silviaguy240
07-10-2008, 12:09 PM
nissan markup is illegal, if you really want to bitch call corporate and tell them which dealer is marking cars up. they were doing that with the Nismo Z's and all you have to do is call nissan corporate and tell them which dealer it is, and guess what, you'll get the car at MSRP!

adrians_s13
07-10-2008, 12:12 PM
what was it that they said.... once the car leaves the dealership lot, it depreciates by like 20% or something?

1five10
07-10-2008, 12:25 PM
Which car will pull more girls? A $100,000 Nissan or a $70,000 Porsche. I'd say a Porsche still has more pu**y power.

Vindication
07-10-2008, 12:26 PM
People are in business to make money. If a dealership wants to charge someone 30-40k over sticker and someone is willing to pay for it then thats good for their business.

Lets be honest here, if you guys owned a GTR right now at this moment, say it had 1 or 2 miles on the clock, covered in plastic, etc. You paid Nissan say 64k for it (assuming thats what the dealership paid) would YOU sell it for MSRP at this moment? Would you leave 30-50k profit on the table when you know someone out there is willing to pay upward of 100k for this car? If your answer is sell it for MSRP your stupid and you hate money. Period.

crazyikimasho
07-10-2008, 02:10 PM
Be sure and come see them in our showroom while they're still here :)
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtrshowroomrear.jpg

Since the arrival of our first couple GT-Rs the phones in our sales dept have been ringing off the hook. Its amazing with the condition of the economy how many people have the kind of money to spend on a supercar like the GT-R. Our sales dept has been receiving offers in excess of $100k from potential buyers.

Those that have placed deposits will have the first opportunity to purchase one, however if for whatever reason they do not purchase then an opportunity will be given to other buyers.

Would have seemed a better business decision to continue producing the S Chassis instead of a car that is like 5 years behind production schedule allready. Can i get an Amen on that?

If you look at sales history on the s-chassis and projected sales for said vehicle, Nissan actually did the right thing.

Although, there are advocates at Nissan North America for the rebirth of the S-chassis and they are arguing their point with upper management. We'll see what happens.

the wheels... yes but they allready have ways around it.... the tracks not en estados unidos amigo hahahaha

The car does have a "black box" and your warranty is voided if the car is raced.


what was it that they said.... once the car leaves the dealership lot, it depreciates by like 20% or something?

Since its limited production and 1st year, it could potentially appreciate or at least not depreciate as fast.

You have to realize this isnt a 350z or 240sx. First years will most likely become collector's items and many people are purchasing for that purpose.

Which car will pull more girls? A $100,000 Nissan or a $70,000 Porsche. I'd say a Porsche still has more pu**y power.

Point well taken. If I had that kind of money, which I don't, I would have to weigh out all options.

nissan markup is illegal, if you really want to bitch call corporate and tell them which dealer is marking cars up. they were doing that with the Nismo Z's and all you have to do is call nissan corporate and tell them which dealer it is, and guess what, you'll get the car at MSRP!

Uhhh... No it is not illegal. Please tell me where that is in writing, because it is not.

Nissan dealers are at liberty to markup as much as they please. Try not to spread rumors.

dtc 360RT
07-10-2008, 04:05 PM
Have you by chance noticed the financial status of GM. They arent doing so hot.


nissan wasn't doing so hot either, till Renault stepped in with a bunch of money bags.....

S14_Cookie
07-10-2008, 04:28 PM
Good stuff Justin! I wish I could afford one...

Dutchmalmiss
07-10-2008, 04:32 PM
only dealers that buy the equipment and send some techs to training can sell and service the GT-R. im sure the tools were expensive but 40k mark up im sure they'll make the money back soon. :)




more pics will be turning up like these soon im sure.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s181/macidcrook/24032008495.jpg

There's GOT to be someone planning a swap with that motor for an s-chassis already...:2f2f:

nismo-joe
07-10-2008, 04:41 PM
so could we just go there and... ahem.. go take it for a spin, you know, we'll do the secret zilvia handshake? haha, no bueno? how bout we sit in one and pretend that we're driving, lolCan i come? ill make the car noises!!!

silviaguy240
07-10-2008, 07:19 PM
Uhhh... No it is not illegal. Please tell me where that is in writing, because it is not.

Nissan dealers are at liberty to markup as much as they please. Try not to spread rumors.

maybe not illegal, wrong word choice there on my part, but i think theres a thread on my350z about it, i need to ask my friend to find it for me and i'll get some more info.

Matej
07-10-2008, 08:20 PM
Impressive technology, but to tell the truth the GT-R does nothing for me.


Which car will pull more girls? A $100,000 Nissan or a $70,000 Porsche. I'd say a Porsche still has more pu**y power.
If you like old women haha.

s14kouki_
07-10-2008, 08:21 PM
what was it that they said.... once the car leaves the dealership lot, it depreciates by like 20% or something?
30%
...........

suprafreak1000
07-10-2008, 08:22 PM
theres already a red gtr cruisin around my city. I've seen it twice now and i must say they look sick in person

gregfarz78
07-10-2008, 08:24 PM
This isnt a normal car I doubt its going to depreciate much I wouldnt be surprised to see these still going for 40k+ after 5 years

GoTuningUnlimited
07-10-2008, 08:28 PM
Can't wait to see what the tuners can do with this so-called "un-moddable" car!

MADE
07-10-2008, 08:44 PM
Not that those who will buy one would give a shit but I thought most new gas nowadays come with a free tank of gas. But the GT-R pictured was empty. Maybe it was on a test drive?

silviaguy240
07-10-2008, 08:57 PM
umm cars come off the truck like that...usually gets gas when someone wants to drive or the day its actually bought.

beeracing s14
07-10-2008, 09:05 PM
i wonder what Toyota is doing about the LFA now that GTR is finally available in the US market?

norbac
07-10-2008, 09:13 PM
better be doing something soon, that and the new nsx, because the numbers that the GTR is putting up is hard to beat

MelloS13
07-10-2008, 09:17 PM
wow thats the same truck i saw on the freeway. was tailing it for a while till i finally nutted on myself >.<!

zerooath
07-10-2008, 09:42 PM
The black one looks so lovely....

1five10
07-10-2008, 09:50 PM
30%
...........
What you guys are saying is that if you pay 100K for it now, it will be 70K when you drive it across the street to get gas? I really don't think so.

That 20-30% depreciation value is on a typical, mass produced car. This car is in such limited production right now that it won't depreciate for quite a while. Too many people want to be the privileged few to have them. I'd buy one for 70K if they're available right now at that price.

SinisterSntra91
07-10-2008, 11:01 PM
If you really think about it, for that kind of money we could all smoke a new GTR with our 240s by building them and still have enough money to buy a porsche. Its a bad ass car dont get me wrong, if I had that kind of jack I would buy one, but then I wouldnt know dick about cars cause chances are I would have paid people to work on my cars all these years. Maybe its me but I get more satisfation/thrill out of beating up on rich mans toys with my supposedly "inferior" car than I would just going to the dealership and buying the car.

MikeisNissan
07-10-2008, 11:07 PM
Imagine R35 powered S-Chassis or Z-Chassis.. I can see it happening one day.

aaronlosey
07-11-2008, 01:19 AM
What you guys are saying is that if you pay 100K for it now, it will be 70K when you drive it across the street to get gas? I really don't think so.

That 20-30% depreciation value is on a typical, mass produced car. This car is in such limited production right now that it won't depreciate for quite a while. Too many people want to be the privileged few to have them. I'd buy one for 70K if they're available right now at that price.


as soon as they start selling for msrp, which will be pretty soon, your 100k dollar gtr will be worth less than 70k, quite a bit less, since that would be a new car selling for that much(and yours would be used, already titled and with miles on it). new porsche turbos loose about 20-30k their first year in depreciation. after that its horrible. you can buy a 140k dollar porsche turbo 5 years later for 65k. and thats only with about 35-45k miles on them.

adrians_s13
07-11-2008, 01:28 AM
If you really think about it, for that kind of money we could all smoke a new GTR with our 240s by building them and still have enough money to buy a porsche. Its a bad ass car dont get me wrong, if I had that kind of jack I would buy one, but then I wouldnt know dick about cars cause chances are I would have paid people to work on my cars all these years. Maybe its me but I get more satisfation/thrill out of beating up on rich mans toys with my supposedly "inferior" car than I would just going to the dealership and buying the car.

yeah, but then you'll be left with something: not comfortable, not nearly as quiet, not nearly as cool, not as rare, and NOT STREET LEGAL.

gregfarz78
07-11-2008, 06:16 AM
Imagine R35 powered S-Chassis or Z-Chassis.. I can see it happening one day.

I'd love to see that I bet that vr38dett engine will go for well over 10k though, and the wiring is probably a nightmare. I wonder how soon we'll see wrecked front clips for sale lol

Neejay
07-11-2008, 06:56 AM
The car does have a "black box" and your warranty is voided if the car is raced.
I don't get this, because what's the point in building a car like this but they're saying that if you race it, it voids the warranty? Even in stock form? Isn't that the opposite of the reason of building the car as is?

What does it take the test drive one?

Canaduh
07-11-2008, 07:19 AM
I don't get this, because what's the point in building a car like this but they're saying that if you race it, it voids the warranty? Even in stock form? Isn't that the opposite of the reason of building the car as is?

What does it take the test drive one?

I also thought they weren't going to have the same restrictions in north american that they have in asia. Like the speed limiter, and if the black box see's you're at a drag strip or seomthing, you lose your warranty.
Any insight on that justin?

240trainee
07-11-2008, 08:22 AM
I would guess it measures engine inputs, not so much GPS, but I could be wrong.

240trainee
07-11-2008, 08:25 AM
and HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH at the people getting their panties in a bunch over a dealer markup of a highly desirable car. It's the way it's always worked, the car is worth as much as someone will pay for it, and you can't fault the dealership for seeing what that is. If it's too much for you, don't buy it.

and don't bitch.

macidcrook
07-11-2008, 08:51 AM
The car does have a "black box" and your warranty is voided if the car is raced.


i dont think it is so much as if its raced but if something happends when it is being raced. a customer of mine is in line to get one and that was the first question out of his mouth.



Can't wait to see what the tuners can do with this so-called "un-moddable" car!


its not that its un-moddable its just that nissan says the car was designed to be perfect as is. changing anything will change the balance of it. but i know theres always something to make it better.

soon2bs13
07-11-2008, 09:15 AM
a local nissan dealership said that in order for them to sell the GT-Rs, i forgot the exact amount, they have to spend 100,000 (exagerating) to have their mechanics trained on how to work with the GT-Rs. I am sure that is where the high markup goes towards, in addition to other commission/taxes/etc.

JustShiftBoots.com
07-11-2008, 09:20 AM
Simple, they dont want someone destroying the car on a track, or messing it up, then coming in and saying it is a manufacture defect. Just wait until the warranty is up, then track it :D

I don't get this, because what's the point in building a car like this but they're saying that if you race it, it voids the warranty? Even in stock form? Isn't that the opposite of the reason of building the car as is?

What does it take the test drive one?

phi_ho1
07-11-2008, 09:27 AM
very nice car. i'm saving money to buy a house now, maybe next three year. the price goes up alot, i remmeber that it was around 79k in motor trend magz.

drift925
07-11-2008, 09:33 AM
Sorry but before I buy it I need to test drive it for a couple of hours to make sure I'm getting into something I really want. When can we setup an appointment?

Seriously though, if you RACE the car you void warranty? Thats SOOO weak, then whats the point of having a car like that? Oh wait nevermind this car is a moneypit, void warranty = more out of pocket from customers to hand over to the STEALERships. This car says "hole in wallat" all over the place.

norbac
07-11-2008, 10:14 AM
soo.. who's going to actually buy one from this thread? haha

TUnity2
07-11-2008, 10:27 AM
a local nissan dealership said that in order for them to sell the GT-Rs, i forgot the exact amount, they have to spend 100,000 (exagerating) to have their mechanics trained on how to work with the GT-Rs. I am sure that is where the high markup goes towards, in addition to other commission/taxes/etc.

which is why people who want one RIGHT NOW have to pay to play. in a year the markup wont be so high because the dealerships will have already paid all that.

Dutchmalmiss
07-11-2008, 10:28 AM
I'm going to say 1 person from zilvia will buy one. And once he posts pictures, everyone is gonna +rep his ass haha.

RPS13FREAK
07-11-2008, 10:32 AM
The car does have a "black box" and your warranty is voided if the car is raced.

That's like the Evo's when they first came out. Why would Nissan sell their flagship car, that's a super race car straight out the box, if you can't even race it without voiding your warranty? If you modify it or alter the settings from factory then that should cause the warranty void, but not if you race a race car.

98koukile
07-11-2008, 10:55 AM
I believe every major car manufacturer does the same thing, I know its true for corvettes and the like. They warranty STREET DRIVEN cars, everyone knows the track brings more wear and tear on their car, why should the dealership have to pay for it? When you pop your motor on the track do you look to someone to blame? No, because you know you were beating the piss out of it. Nissan has been in racing long enough to know this is a smart financial decision

Neejay
07-11-2008, 11:50 AM
Simple, they dont want someone destroying the car on a track, or messing it up, then coming in and saying it is a manufacture defect. Just wait until the warranty is up, then track it :D
I mean, I understand that, but I don't understand having that policy on a twin turbo v6 $70k car.
Seriously though, if you RACE the car you void warranty? Thats SOOO weak, then whats the point of having a car like that?
That's like the Evo's when they first came out. Why would Nissan sell their flagship car, that's a super race car straight out the box, if you can't even race it without voiding your warranty? If you modify it or alter the settings from factory then that should cause the warranty void, but not if you race a race car.
Exactly my point(s).

I don't know...I'm starting to think this car is simply for bragging rights and for filthy rich people...

Is the black box for constant abuse-racing, or for sensing hard acceleration/braking?

slipin101
07-11-2008, 12:43 PM
8========================d

Dutchmalmiss
07-11-2008, 01:15 PM
8========================d

I'm sorry, but a GTR causing down syndrome penises FTL.

KidSaru
07-11-2008, 01:24 PM
Why the fuck WOULD they warrant a car that's being raced? Even the best drivers make mistakes.

Neejay
07-11-2008, 01:39 PM
Why the fuck WOULD they warrant a car that's being raced? Even the best drivers make mistakes.
Which is why I was asking the terms on what they considered "racing"

Obviously not wrecking the car or something blatantly obvious/dumb.

crazyikimasho
07-11-2008, 02:10 PM
The gunmetal one was claimed last night and the black one is on hold :(

Bobafreak
07-11-2008, 02:12 PM
I believe the first one that came the guy didnt pay markup only 70k. But yeah 100k geeeessshh! But one thing assured, it got ranked the second fastest car on the Nurburgring track beating the porsche GT2! woooooooooooooooooo!

Oh wait not to mention this was the base model guys.

anthonythomas08
07-11-2008, 02:45 PM
It looked like someone put some miles on it when it arrived. Must of been fun. If i paid about $30,000 over sticker- I would not want a single mile on it.

gerson408
07-11-2008, 02:49 PM
omg i want one so bad

crazyikimasho
07-11-2008, 02:50 PM
It looked like someone put some miles on it when it arrived. Must of been fun. If i paid about $30,000 over sticker- I would not want a single mile on it.

All of them have miles on them, they are driven to setup suspension, etc. Its in the pre delivery info you recieve as a buyer.

Dream240
07-11-2008, 02:53 PM
wonder how long it will be before we see pictures of the first totaled or wrecked one...

Heh yeah.

I'll give it about a week.

KidSaru
07-11-2008, 02:56 PM
Do we at least get the nitrogen filled tires here in the states? :/

Dutchmalmiss
07-11-2008, 02:59 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ERMoA38S-m8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=buwSxnFZH-g

driftenthusiast
07-11-2008, 04:30 PM
only dealers that buy the equipment and send some techs to training can sell and service the GT-R. im sure the tools were expensive but 40k mark up im sure they'll make the money back soon. :)



There isnt much most new dealers need to buy, most of the money is spent in the training. My dealer is GTR certified and we didnt even need to buy anything except for new lift arms and nitrogen, and as West covina is new as well im sure they had most of it. They were driving some around here today at the training center but with a %15 throttle limiter.

ScottMan
07-11-2008, 05:01 PM
I don't know...I'm starting to think this car is simply for bragging rights and for filthy rich people...

Haha...you live in Atlanta and you think a $70,000-$110,000 car is for filthy rich people?

You've got to see the SLRs at Bob's car wash or the Bentley C-GTs driven by young punks. :)

carnal_c30
07-11-2008, 05:03 PM
Yes. We have ~11 deposits.


sooooo lets say one of these people came up with mad cow disease, SARS, perished in mysterious house fire... could I squeeze into the list? hahaha

black is where its at... makes the kinda ugly look of the gtr less ugly

Neejay
07-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Haha...you live in Atlanta and you think a $70,000-$110,000 car is for filthy rich people?

You've got to see the SLRs at Bob's car wash or the Bentley C-GTs driven by young punks. :)
LOL I mean, I work downtown, so I see them all, but...eh...I guess you got a point. hahaha

KidSaru
07-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Haha...you live in Atlanta and you think a $70,000-$110,000 car is for filthy rich people?

You've got to see the SLRs at Bob's car wash or the Bentley C-GTs driven by young punks. :)

Yeah...No fucking kidding.

But then again some filthy rich people put 24s on G-Bodys in ATL. :bigok:

Tan-R
07-11-2008, 05:28 PM
when i was in phoenix, my friend and i rolled next to a red GTR, it was crazy! the guy driving it was so lucky! it just made us feel so down graded in my friends POS prelude S... haha it was amazing though, i have seen three since.. i hope more people can afford them so they become cheaper and more common so i can buy one

!Zar!
07-12-2008, 01:26 PM
A car made you feel less worthy as a person?

That's sad.

This car is not going to drop down in price much, so keep on saving up your pennies.

Who gives a fuck if it voids warranty.

Honestly, I could care less about a warranty. Not to mention the people who buy them should be able to afford maintenance on them if something does go wrong.

But on the other hand, it covers them because say some dumb fuck decides to race around the track bouncing off the rev limiter in first.

Then the motor blows.

Who's he going to blame? Nissan.

Why? Because he's a dumb fuck.

So it just covers Nissan's ass.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure if you show me the wiring to the, "black box" as well as how it works, something can be done to surpass whatever triggers the unit into thinking it's on the track.

Who knows, it could be as simple as unplugging it.

Addicted2Kouki
07-12-2008, 06:02 PM
Im glad theres a markup...

Leaves dumbasses unable to drive them.


Imagine if it was 50k-70k...
there would be as many rich kids driving them as evo's and sti's.


Even if that means, ill probably never be able to afford a new one, unless I become extremely successful or win the lottery.

mojos13
07-12-2008, 06:21 PM
$109000-beans is alot of maney, the 2009 ZR-1 vette is coming with
638-hp....I would just wait a bit.....my 2-cents!

Future240
07-12-2008, 06:29 PM
Hopefully these dual majors I am obtainin in college will land me a job that will be able to afford the 2012 GTR

gijoe69
07-12-2008, 06:33 PM
I would love to get my snap on & mac tools out to disassemble the car and put it back together haha!

usdm180sx
07-12-2008, 07:46 PM
I met Darryl, the guy who bought the 1st GT-R sold in the US and saw his car at the Autobacs meet today. He's gonna put it away to preserve it. He's also picking up a red one on monday to modify. How's that for heaven?

Future240
07-12-2008, 07:55 PM
^ what does he do for work?

!Zar!
07-13-2008, 12:03 AM
Three seconds is quite a bit of time.

luftrofl
07-13-2008, 12:07 AM
Three seconds is quite a bit of time.

Not on the 'ring:mepoke:

rb25_s13*CHUKI
07-13-2008, 12:53 AM
Wow you've got some proving to do. The ZR1 (the highest trim Vette) beat the GTR (in base trim) by 3 seconds. We've yet to even see a lap vid of what the GTR V-spec can do. And once again, I'm waiting for Dave to jump in on this, haha. And if you haven't noticed...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ERMoA38S-m8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=buwSxnFZH-g

Awesome videos! Seeing as the four cylinder mitsubishi came in third place i would say that the 34k evo 10 is a damn good car for it's engine size and price range. for 34k u get a car that is 1 sec slower than the 70k+ contenders(gtr and r8) with half the engine of the r8 and two cylinders less than the gtr. I think that is pretty amazing.

!Zar!
07-13-2008, 12:56 AM
That's the track they are talking about?

Fuck that time then.

smelly240
07-13-2008, 04:36 AM
so you fellas know the zr-1 is gonna be marked up to like 145K - thats 42K over the sticker. its gonna be nasty fast - but its still a midlife crisis/old mans car.

jonny cash
07-13-2008, 08:18 AM
Nice pics. Im sorry, I couldnt read this whole thread I was getting really annoyed.

In 87, Buick GNX's were fetching 200k (msrp was 70 or so) But the GTR isnt a limited edition run.

A cars only worth what someone will pay for it.

ROIDMONKEY
07-13-2008, 09:03 AM
$109000-beans is alot of maney, the 2009 ZR-1 vette is coming with
638-hp....I would just wait a bit.....my 2-cents!
I dont care. ITS NOT THE SAME. DRIVING A GTR IS WAY MORE AWESOME THAN A STUPID CORVETTE

Future240
07-13-2008, 09:57 AM
Awesome videos! Seeing as the four cylinder mitsubishi came in third place i would say that the 34k evo 10 is a damn good car for it's engine size and price range. for 34k u get a car that is 1 sec slower than the 70k+ contenders(gtr and r8) with half the engine of the r8 and two cylinders less than the gtr. I think that is pretty amazing.

I have to agree with you there. I was a bit surprised when I saw an evo competing with the supercars, but it actually held its ground for the most part. It may not be on GTR status buts its a damn good car.

bigOdom1
07-13-2008, 10:04 AM
The bottom fucking line is that the top of the line Corvette is three seconds faster than the base model GTR. When Nissan releases the Spec V then we can compare. the corvette is still more expensive than a GTR with the bullshit dealer markup.

ZenkitonS14
07-14-2008, 12:03 AM
I saw one of the GTRs that West Co got at Diamond Plaza in Rowland Heights today. Shits dope.

hybrid_eg
07-14-2008, 12:21 AM
they are truly sexy but the mark up truly sucks.. I wouldnt pay for it just because of that BS.. especially mark up's in Cali are notorious.. other then the mark up car is sick!

koroshiya87
07-14-2008, 01:50 AM
the car is sick nuff said

SoCal-s130
07-14-2008, 02:19 AM
Saw the silver/grey one roll through diamond plaza tonight =]

Red Square
07-14-2008, 02:38 AM
Saw the silver/grey one roll through diamond plaza tonight =]


yes i was at Ten Ren, saw that sht and was mad hating... what ever gtr bah bahh bahh.... then i realize i know who was driving it. hahahaah and said whats up. but yah, its a nice car.

Neejay
07-14-2008, 08:54 AM
I met Darryl, the guy who bought the 1st GT-R sold in the US and saw his car at the Autobacs meet today. He's gonna put it away to preserve it. He's also picking up a red one on monday to modify. How's that for heaven?
$$$$ to wipe his ass with.

blueshark123
07-14-2008, 08:58 AM
LOL I know enough to know that you're the one who really doesn't know dick. Three sec on the 'ring is not that much.

Out of the box the gt-r is faster than the z06 and 997 turbo. It's been documented in almost every magazine so just stfu already.

Sure you'll get chicks with a 996. They'll all stop by to give you sympathy when you're stopped waiting for a tow truck. If you get laid it certainly won't be from trying to dazzle a chick with your severe lack of knowledge about cars and consistent lack of proof to back your shit up.


USdm180sx for president lol:whip:

monkeyslide17
07-14-2008, 09:10 AM
city 16 mpg and highway 21 mpg. lol thats crazy.

If u owen this car and talk about gas price, just give it to me and ill drive it for ya..

kensreliableb18b
07-14-2008, 10:38 AM
i know where the gunmetal gtr is now. heheheheh

TanaMU
07-14-2008, 10:52 AM
21 MPG eh...

Dutchmalmiss
07-14-2008, 11:00 AM
21 MPG eh...

I highly doubt MPG is a concern for the people buying GTRs, unless they're dailying it, which I also highly doubt.

crazyikimasho
07-14-2008, 11:20 AM
i know where the gunmetal gtr is now. heheheheh

The gunmetal one sold yesterday to someone local that many of us know. You guys may see it driving around.

!Zar!
07-14-2008, 11:38 AM
21mpg isn't that bad for what it is.

dorkidori_s13
07-14-2008, 11:52 AM
honestly...in the argument of the ZR1 vs the GTR...it took GM roughly 150 more horsepower and a few hundred less kg to beat the GTR by 3 seconds (and the GTR isnt even official)

as far as sheer engineering and defying physics goes...i think the GTR walks all over the ZR1...period

but comparing the GTR to ZR1 isnt techincally correct...the GTR was not built to battle the ZR1...it was built to tackle the Z06/Z07 series vettes (and many other cars in or around the same area)

nissan is building the V-Spec GTR to be the major supercar battler...with the hefty price tag the V-Spec trim will hold...im sure itll be quite a bit heftier than the current base model GTR

Neejay
07-14-2008, 11:58 AM
honestly...in the argument of the ZR1 vs the GTR...it took GM roughly 150 more horsepower and a few hundred less kg to beat the GTR by 3 seconds (and the GTR isnt even official)

as far as sheer engineering and defying physics goes...i think the GTR walks all over the ZR1...period

but comparing the GTR to ZR1 isnt techincally correct...the GTR was not built to battle the ZR1...it was built to tackle the Z06/Z07 series vettes (and many other cars in or around the same area)

nissan is building the V-Spec GTR to be the major supercar battler...with the hefty price tag the V-Spec trim will hold...im sure itll be quite a bit heftier than the current base model GTR
Couldn't agree with you more. Show me V-Spec vs. ZR1, then we'll talk.

Dutchmalmiss
07-14-2008, 12:03 PM
^^It's kinda cool presuming the GTR could be the new benchmark for the upcoming supercars. Kinda funny that Chevy's top trim Corvette is the only one to put the GTR (a base model to say the least) to the test. We're still waiting on the V-Spec's times. IIRC they're goal was 7:24 which is a VERY capable goal to reach, if not surpassable.

fbiphil
07-14-2008, 12:04 PM
I haven't driven the new GTR, so I can't give an educated opinion on the experience, but I HAVE driven several C5 and C6 'Vettes, and I don't like them. They don't feel as connected to the road as other vehicles, and I felt like everything was a bit numb. Maybe it's because I'm used to older vehicles, but every Corvette I've driven felt the same way, including some older 70s and 80s models...
Everything I've read about the GTR puts emphasis on how much fun it is to drive at the limit, how controlled it feels, and how it makes even a bad driver look good. The driving experience is everything- even if you're a whopping 2 seconds behind the ZR-1 on the 'Ring, who's having more fun, and who is more in control?
Again, I haven't driven the ZR-1, which I'm sure is an incredible machine, and I haven't driven the GTR (but I hope to!), so these are just my opinions, but I can't imagine spending that kind of money on anything but the GTR... except maybe gold-plating every part on my S13!!

drft_n_s14
07-14-2008, 12:14 PM
so sexy!! I got a chubby...

crazyikimasho
07-14-2008, 01:07 PM
http://photos.thenismoshop.com/gtraccessories.jpg

Just a few of the accessories that will be available

Premium Sport Floormats w/carbon fiber inserts $1184.31 MSRP!!!??
GT-R Toolkit $TBA
GT-R Car Cover $TBA

Dutchmalmiss
07-14-2008, 01:22 PM
[IMG]
Premium Sport Floormats w/carbon fiber inserts $1184.31 MSRP!!!??


Jesus....little Japanese women better sprout out of it and grow into full size women and love you for that price.

mrmephistopheles
07-14-2008, 01:34 PM
i know where the gunmetal gtr is now. heheheheh

Me too.. :keke:

Z33dori
07-14-2008, 01:51 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Y2ZorKSWJs

Top gear

drift925
07-14-2008, 02:52 PM
In all seriousness, you can finance these cars right?? No difference from any other normal new car except it carries an extra digit on the price?

crazyikimasho
07-14-2008, 04:49 PM
In all seriousness, you can finance these cars right?? No difference from any other normal new car except it carries an extra digit on the price?

Of course you can. Cant wait until more get here :)

bardabe
07-14-2008, 11:52 PM
yo happen to know how much the payments are with a 762pt credit score? lol or liek arround the price how much it'kll be?

1five10
07-15-2008, 12:09 AM
yo happen to know how much the payments are with a 762pt credit score? lol or liek arround the price how much it'kll be?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it. If you're only 18 years old, you probably don't have enough credit to make a $100,000 purchase. They take into account more than credit scores like occupation, home ownership, debt to income ratio, etc....

Dominic Axelson
07-15-2008, 12:42 AM
iv seen the RHD show car they use saw it almost a year ago. it was nice!

ser920718
07-15-2008, 12:54 AM
This car is truly amazing!!! Idk why people even try and bash it. People love to hate for no reason. And if u love vette's so much go and talk about them on a chevy forum. GTR FTW!!!!

singlecamslam
07-15-2008, 01:47 AM
Yeah they sell fast... here they are sold before they get to the showroom.

WISH ONE
07-15-2008, 04:34 PM
We only have one here at connell we got last week, that is now only for display, some wealthy azn guy drove in with lambo offering 110k and our sales manager said NO! lol we also had a cash offer for 80k and was declined as well. Im not sure about this, but i believe we are getting two more and they are sold already.

bardabe
07-15-2008, 06:12 PM
no i'm just wondering mR, 1Five10 I know i can't afford it.

Wake
07-15-2008, 10:18 PM
wonder how long it will be before we see pictures of the first totaled or wrecked one...

Im pretty sure this is the same car posted earlier, I bet most of you guys have seen these already but its pics of the first totaled GTR from back in Jan, i beleive it was crashed in hong kong
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/wakebh/crashedgtrke8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/wakebh/crashedgtr2un9.jpg

ouch

bardabe
07-15-2008, 10:21 PM
im actually waiting to see who transplans that power plant into something else first.

oscarsx
07-15-2008, 10:24 PM
il take 1 CASH!! haha syke. love the design on it, cant wait to actually see it in person...

wonder if the high desert nissan will get one :/

2ndlife
07-15-2008, 10:34 PM
there was also pics of another gtr that crash a few month ago. i think in malaysia. any one has pics of that crash? it was worst than this one in hong kong.

crazyikimasho
07-16-2008, 11:32 AM
Have any of you seen the Audi R8 markup?

Ummm... yeaaaah.

$108k standard, $118 with autronic gearbox. One of the local Audi dealers was getting $150k plus the last I checked.

Brian
07-16-2008, 11:43 AM
Cars!!!!!!!!!!!

crazyikimasho
07-16-2008, 11:58 AM
Cars!!!!!!!!!!!

http://kix66.net/resources/Cars-Movie-Poster.jpg
The movie?

Brian
07-16-2008, 12:02 PM
I love when people argue about cars that they will never be able to own.

haha.


It is like some kid who just got a 92 Sentra saying how bad a Bentley is in certain areas so he will never buy it.

dtc 360RT
07-16-2008, 12:57 PM
lotta "we" bombs being dropped here

+1 usdm180sx

and well....he's got enough red squares

Brian
07-16-2008, 04:23 PM
So, the GTR has started selling in the U.S.

fbiphil
07-16-2008, 04:27 PM
Really, Brian? How much are they getting for them? I hear they're pretty fast...

xdumbxguyx
07-16-2008, 05:08 PM
just saw the one phase2 bought must say i like it alot 20" wheels big ass brembos!

kouki_s14
07-17-2008, 01:58 PM
you know, if you guys didn't actually respond to me and treated my statements as completely invalid by not responding we you wouldn't even need to do that, right?


That sentence was hard to read.

So Justin, did anymore GTRs come in yet?

What is the estimated time for you guys to catch up to orders and actually have some stocked?

zerooath
07-17-2008, 03:40 PM
Will Nissan offer any performance upgrades for the GT-R at all?

!Zar!
07-17-2008, 03:43 PM
So, who will be the first to weld the diff on it?

BBSilvia
07-17-2008, 04:09 PM
Ok, i like the GTR the price is a little high for me, and from what i have read 13.....your dumb...and wrong....and fail....just leave :) k thanx!

illvialuver
07-17-2008, 04:13 PM
Sticker markup makes them around $109,000

that mark up is the lamest shit ever.

fuck car dealerships with there markup.

dealership markup makes everything you read about and judge the car on in consumer reports and other magazines a lie.

well some lucky douche bag will sell one to some rich bitch and be able to eat for the entire year.

thefro526
07-17-2008, 04:24 PM
I'm an engineering student and I tend to look at things from a purely scientific perspective and I've noticed that, the GTR seems to defy most of the common laws of automotive physics that most of us believe. The GTR is heavy, heavy as hell, for a sports car. That point can't be argued. Now look at it's power numbers; they're what 480hp, maybe 500hp if Nissan is lying? When you couple those two facts together by most standards the GTR shouldn't be that fast, it just shouldn't. American cars that have been made throughout the last 3 decades with similar powers and weight don't even get close enough to spit at the GTR's specs. And for all of this ZR1 crap, it's a lighter car and a more powerful car by an honest (meaning the gap may be more) 100hp yet, it only out preforms the GTR slightly.

I think just for the engineering that went into the GTR it is worth more that the 110k it's going for at West Covina Nissan. Really, if it weren't a Nissan it would be at least 150k anyway, but because it's a Nissan you want it to be cheap. Performance like that is a steal at the sticker price of 70k and still a great buy at 110k. But then again I'm just a kid, what the heck do I know?


And thanks OP for the pictures, it's pretty cool to see GTR's in real world settings and not just on tracks and stuff.

Future240
07-17-2008, 04:53 PM
^ you may be a kid, but i bet you probably know more than me

INeedNewTires
07-17-2008, 06:08 PM
I'll never understand why you girls are crying about the markup on a car that cost more than 3 years of your annual salary! Marking up the car is only going to happen for the first production runs anyway...

By may 2009 i predict that they will be going for MSRP or slightly discounted because by then they will have competition (LFA, NSX, ZR1, TESLA, etc) and everyone that had mad cash to pony up for one will have already bought one, and everyone else thats just on the cusp of having 70 thousand dollars after tax to buy one will be able to. Or they can pony up the $1400 a month car payment, plus insurance, PLUS gas...PLUS tires! hahaha.

I work at Infiniti and when the G37 came out we thought we could mark that bitch up and all that blah blah blah, yes i know its no R35 but we marked up maybe 4 of em, and within 3 mos we were discounting them all the same... its the sad truth

My point is all you fools crying about the markup saying what you would say to the dealers, ARENT in that position, so fahGetABoutit....

fbiphil
07-17-2008, 06:17 PM
When the New Beetle came out, the dealers were tacking $10-15k on top of sticker.
When the PT Cruiser came out, same thing.
When we (boss man and me) went to pick up the shop's Challenger SRT-8 2 weeks ago, they marked it up...

Supply and demand- it's a fact of life. You gotta pay to play, or you'll have to wait in line for the supply to catch up. Sucks, but what can you do?

Of course, next year there'll be base-model Challengers at every stop light, and ours won't be as cool as it is now... the GTR will be badass for years to come! So we paid a bit extra to have that exclusivity now, while it lasts!

ka24delover
07-17-2008, 06:18 PM
niceeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

mulinmoua
07-17-2008, 06:57 PM
$$$$413000 for a zr1. talk about mark up. i'll take 3 gtr please

http://jalopnik.com/396780/dealer-gouging-reportedly-sends-2009-corvette-zr1-to-amazingly-insane-price-of-413000

1five10
07-17-2008, 07:01 PM
I really don't know what the big deal is. If someone wants to pay the markup, let them pay the markup. There's always a price for being on the exclusive list.

For example, if you have a badass 240 that you're selling and 10 people want it, aren't you going to sell it to the highest bidder? Just like egay, if you can't afford it, don't bid on it....

Thirteen
07-17-2008, 09:55 PM
For example, if you have a badass 240 that you're selling and 10 people want it, aren't you going to sell it to the highest bidder? Just like egay, if you can't afford it, don't bid on it....

of course, thats why i dont blame the dealers one bit. i'd do it in a heartbeat :)

phase2
07-18-2008, 06:56 AM
Hi Guys,

We took the opportunity to purchase the Gun Metal Grey R35 GT-R from West Covina Nissan last week. Even with the heavy mark up, for 100k this car is well worth it. It is truely a STEAL for anyone to buy this car at sticker of $72k down the road (good choice!).

Here's our take on the car after driving the car for 5 days:

Comfort :

Does it ride like a luxury sports car? HELL NO. The car was not designed to be built that way from the getgo. The wind noise is heavy, road noise can be heard through the cabin, and suspension is VERY stiff (even with the comfort shock setting). The only thing that is luxury about this car is the electronic gadgets that's made available through the main head unit display. Touch screen buttons, electronic gauges (customizable), internal audio 8gig hard drive (can also record CD's through the single CD player), dual zone air air conditioning, and virtually all the vital things you want to know about the car can be read through the screen. Very nice.

Also the clutch packs in the transmssion and differential is very noisy (I kinda like that noise) and can be heard inside the cabin.

Performance:

Still doing our 1k mile break in, but did have the chances to do some half throttle pull. After driving some heavy modded 500+rwhp SR20DET 240SX's, is the GT-R fast? Yes. Is it super fast? No. What makes the GT-R fast is how well balanced the car is from the factory matching the suspension, chasi tuning and the amazing transmission that shifts like a video game. So smooth and soooooooo scary fast. Beats the SMG's in the BMW's by a million miles. Even in the automatic mode the car drove almost the same as a normal Altima or Maxima. The gear shift so fast after exiting a Starbucks plaza by the time I know it I am already at 5th gear (crazy!).

Interior:

The interior is so nice. Best Japanese sports car interior we have yet to see, the seats are bucket type with nicely done leather stitching and all seat adjustments are done electronically (too bad no memory option). Driver side dash area are nicely touched up leather stitched (typical stuff found in the Euro cars that costs just about the same in the 100k+ range) and rear bucket seats are nicely done up as well. There isn't too much PLASTICS to be found in this car other than the trims around the center console, some on the door side and around the shifter console. The car would have felt CHEAP if there's too many plastics but I am glad this is not the case. The overall interior felt very very sophiscated unlike typical Porsche 996/997 Interior which is extremely empty for the price tag of 100+k.

Exterior:

The paint craftsmanship is very nice, lots of metallic. According to the GTR sales manage at West Covina Nissan, the front bumper is painted so that it's gravel chip resistant up to 120mph (not sure about that), but we plan to do the clear bra to preserve the overall fit and finish of the car anyways. One thing we find it odd on the GTR is the door handle. The car no longer has the conventional pull up type handle, it is equipped with a flush handle where you push and pull the door open. Kinda neat, and keeps the body line smooth. The only grip about this car is not having a factory equipped fog lights.

Conclusion:

Is the GTR king of the road? For the most part yes, but that depends on the perception of what's king of the road. Straight line performance the GT-R is not the fastest car produced, if coming from the dig maybe since the car has the fancy launch control, AWD and also super fast shifting. Coming from a rolling start or freeway acceleration might be another story. However, putting the HP issue aside, the GTR is truely engineered in all area and aspects in terms of how a sports car should be. It felt like the attention to details were well planned out on the R35's comparing to the previous R32, 33, 34's. This time Nissan did it right by packing the car with nice interior features, good updated seats, good styling, good performnace and good handeling. Initially I have to say for $72k for a Nissan is truely up there, but after seeing and driving the car in person, it is truely a steal. The new M3 with V8 400hp cost just about the same if not more than the GT-R, 997 Porchea TT costs almost double the price of the MSRP sticker of the GT-R, the only thing that can come close to value is probably the Corvette Z06's.

Bottom line, we are all just happy that Nissan finally bring the Legendary GT-R's over to the USDM market. Prior to the R35 release a used R34 Vspec Skyline registered (before things got screwy) cost just about the same for $100k through Motor-Ex. So the R35 is still well priced and worth the money even with the markup. Having this car and being STREET LEGAL was something we hope can have with the previous GT-R's, but now the dream has come true.

1five10
07-18-2008, 08:05 AM
Thanks for the info. So when are you going to start selling "ride alongs" at Phase? lol Better yet, how much to rent it for a weekend? lol

Neejay
07-18-2008, 08:06 AM
Wow, thanks for the honest review!

Slidin240Wayz
07-18-2008, 12:32 PM
What wheels are you going to put on it?

drftwerks
07-18-2008, 12:34 PM
so phase2 will be the first to blow a gtr engine???

pink godzila
07-18-2008, 12:46 PM
I think Phase2 forgot to mention is that there are contracts for your exhaust, ownership, and street racing.

Mainly Nissan dont want anyone to do anything with the NEW GTR yet. within a year or 2 they just want them to be stock as is and you must own the car for year before selling it.

crazyikimasho
07-18-2008, 12:46 PM
That sentence was hard to read.

So Justin, did anymore GTRs come in yet?

What is the estimated time for you guys to catch up to orders and actually have some stocked?

At least one more this month should be arriving and one or two next month. Our orders should be complete by Sept.

pink godzila
07-18-2008, 12:53 PM
West Co. Justin

Is there still a waiting line for the GTR?? or first come first serve? We when to your dealer yesterday didnt see any GTR so I belive they are sold out already. Becuase my dad is thinking about getting one. If not then he just going to buy some new house instead of the GTR.

QuickSpoolSR
07-18-2008, 01:04 PM
the underbody shot of that car made me squirt a little in my pants

YoungGun
07-18-2008, 01:05 PM
Congrats phase2 good review, can't wait to see what you guys are gonna do to it.

BBSilvia
07-18-2008, 01:26 PM
damn, thanks for the detailed write up phase2!
+1 for you

usdm180sx
07-23-2008, 10:32 AM
The GT-R can actually do 0-60 in 3.2 sec with launch control so 13 your figures are incorrect

drift freaq
07-23-2008, 03:48 PM
Great review from Phase2 . Wayne your the man congrats on a dope purchase and a great overview post on it.

derek_s13
07-24-2008, 05:41 AM
not sure if this is a repost or not. i checked through the thread, and i thought my post was the first crashed GTR, but i guess i'm wrong.

so anyywayyyyyy, says here that TopGear smashed this one up.

second to get damaged i suppose?

http://blogs.superstreetonline.com/6269594/miscellaneous/top-gear-crashes-nissan-r35-gtr/index.html

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/miscellaneous/top-gear-crashes-nissan-r35-gtr/10268218+cr1+re0+ar1/top-gear-crashes-nissan-r35-gtr.jpg

Unit23
07-24-2008, 06:08 AM
I heard somewhere that some GTR's were dyno'd around 500hp, might have been top gear.

I believe the Vspec will be a much more impressive car though.

DriftMUH
07-24-2008, 02:58 PM
21 mpg highway, deng.. if i could afford a brand new gt-r i wouldnt even have to care about gas prices would i ^_^

anthonythomas08
07-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Here are some pictures from my recent track outing. I saw these two circuit battle- it was pretty cool. The R35 (yes, it was a JDM car) is stupid fast and was putting the R34 (which had extensive work done) to shame. I hope you guys like them.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm264/athomas08949/RedLineTimeAttackJuly202008007.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm264/athomas08949/RedLineTimeAttackJuly202008043.jpg

I only had a couple of pictures that have been uploaded. This car was truly amazing to watch- I believe it is lightyears ahead (technology wise) of 99% of the other street cars out right now.

atom
07-24-2008, 04:25 PM
Oh sweet jesus. A R34, R35 AND a nice little CLK63 AMG Black Series in the back. Very nice. How was the Merc doin?

ADF932
07-25-2008, 12:33 AM
Beautiful , Thats all I got to say about the pics.

Full-Lock
07-25-2008, 07:32 AM
the GTR is the best car in the world

for some reason i dont think they look as good with aftermarket wheels. factory look the best on that car.

cool pics in this thread

silnismo
07-25-2008, 10:31 AM
the GTR is the best car in the world

for some reason i dont think they look as good with aftermarket wheels. factory look the best on that car.

cool pics in this thread

i feel the same way, but i believe the stock wheels have a design that prevents the tires from coming off since the GTR has some serious G force as well.

correct me if im wrong, but i heard it from top gear. top gear FTMFW!

swayray
07-25-2008, 01:58 PM
wow those cars look cool...

Phlip
07-25-2008, 09:02 PM
93 bullshit posts just met their Exodus.
ANYONE who continues ANY argument in this thread will be dealt with, I don't give a bowl of warm bloody piss who you are or what color your screen name is.

crazyikimasho
07-28-2008, 03:21 PM
93 bullshit posts just met their Exodus.
ANYONE who continues ANY argument in this thread will be dealt with, I don't give a bowl of warm bloody piss who you are or what color your screen name is.

So fresh and so clean, clean.

SLVR Stealth
07-28-2008, 04:34 PM
Not to brag but they are soooo sweet, my Titto just got his Transported and delivered after the long wait. It's way to much car for myself but he definitely trully deserves it. He got the sexy black so far he's the only black GTR here in San Diego. Quick snap I took with my cell.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7437/gtraq7.jpg

Dutchmalmiss
07-28-2008, 04:41 PM
Not to brag but they are soooo sweet, my Titto just got his Transported and delivered after the long wait. It's way to much car for myself but he definitely trully deserves it. He got the sexy black so far he's the only black GTR here in San Diego. Quick snap I took with my cell.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7437/gtraq7.jpg

You mean Tito? Let a fellow pinoy take a ride in that thing! :naughty:

SLVR Stealth
07-28-2008, 04:52 PM
:) What part of SoCal you from? We have small meets every now and then. My kuya Phil who's also on this forum aka Phildavia who recently sold his S14. My girlfriend, kuya phil, and I, we just finished restoring my brother in laws S13 back to a beauty took us 1 month all by hand we restored it the hella pinoy way. Anyway, he's in Iraq right now fixing the 240sx is just gift from us. It's nice to turn a rust bucket back to a beauty. 240's are nice cars to bring back to life. Best part the 240sx been in the family since 1990.

Anyway, Tito Andy hit me up to meet. It's was a surprise and tada a GTR was sitting their my jaw just dropped. At first I thought it was some crazy tricked out G35/350z but when I went to the rear good lord jesus. Faint, I've seen many S13/14/15 in Cali and Skylines but the new GTR is everlasting. It's crazy people follow him everywhere even going home. Man I get scared for him but he's used to it. Such an expensive taste for exotics. You guys might know him on the boards he use to own a 350z aka BlueBatmobile.

BTW Thanks Justin! Can't wait to get the JDM goodies for the S13. :)

!Zar!
07-28-2008, 07:54 PM
Wow. The hella pinoy thread.

Phase2 picked one up.

So not the only one in socal.

finalimport
07-29-2008, 06:19 PM
I saw both of them the day after in walnut area

bardabe
08-03-2008, 11:22 PM
I saw one cruising yesterday in Riverside, god damn that thing is huge ha ha bad ass fuckin car though. i think it was the owner of the nissan dealer driving it he was wearing a suit and had a nissan Name tag. (yes thats how much i was cehcking that damn thing out)

upSLIDEdown
08-04-2008, 12:49 PM
for some reason i dont think they look as good with aftermarket wheels. factory look the best on that car.


LIAR. BBS FTW.

Info, copy/pasted:

BBS is producing a limited run of LM-DBK-P wheels, sized 20x9.5-inches up front (+40 offset) and 20x10.5-inches in the rear (+20 offset) for the GT-R and like the VAC unit, the cost of exclusivity is prohibitive, with the full set coming in over $5 grand and only sold in Japan. After attempting to contact BBS, we haven't been informed how the company is getting around the wheel-speed sensors, but it shouldn't be hard to port them over from the stock rollers.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4381/gtrlms4xoy6.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5576/gtrlms2xqe4.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3808/gtrlms1xnd6.jpg

http://www.dieselupload.com/files/6_gzb47/bbs-04.jpg

http://www.dieselupload.com/files/8_k5wel/bbs-06.jpg

http://www.dieselupload.com/files/9_udy3u/bbs-008.jpg



http://bp1.blogger.com/_8MPCKJQzPA8/SDhWn4TQa_I/AAAAAAAAJIA/o2n9fj9pM1U/s1600/black35bbs.jpg

civilized_drifter
08-04-2008, 02:32 PM
the delarship i work at just got its second one today, it black

Bushido
08-04-2008, 08:56 PM
that red one looks rad.

Nolmack
08-04-2008, 10:10 PM
i hope they make a yellow one, i think the black carbon paneling on the front would look sick!

nissans14k
08-05-2008, 11:38 PM
I have to agree with you there. I was a bit surprised when I saw an evo competing with the supercars, but it actually held its ground for the most part. It may not be on GTR status buts its a damn good car.

i have to agree.... when i got my 2005 evo8 when it first came out that year, they werent able to b test driven. and when i drove it off the lot... i could c why..... plane f##kin awsome... a guy payed 20k above msrp here at my work for a challenger and a couple people pay over 80k for a cadillac XTR here as well.... it all comes down to how desperate u wanna spend for the car... or juss plain out baller status....

crazyikimasho
08-07-2008, 01:56 PM
We've sold all three that we recieved so far (1 black, 2 grey)

Later this month another grey will arrived followed by either one or two white ones next month :)

Brian
08-07-2008, 02:00 PM
damn that red one is NICE!

usdm180sx
08-07-2008, 02:07 PM
Sweet! If all goes according to plan I'll be getting a white one soon.

Neejay
08-07-2008, 02:08 PM
Agreed, I'm loving the red one with those wheels.

the head
08-07-2008, 02:27 PM
I just cant see the point of paying 100k for a damn nissan I can buy an 07 Aston Martin Vantage for that much, or a Maserati GranSport, Porsche, ZR-1, Used SL65 AMG...all a hell of a lot nicer then a nissan.