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240Degrees
12-18-2002, 08:38 PM
my friend gave me one of these. I hear that some are threaded? Well mine's not. At first, i simply put it over my stock button. It fit really tight, but once i tried to take it off, the whole metal rod thingy came out. Scared the **** outta me like i broke my car or something. Well I figured out how the ebrake worked, so i removed the spring on this L-shaped rod, put my ebrake boot on, and stuck the drift knob on top of the button, so now if i want the ebrake engaged, i pull the button out and if i want it to move freely, i push it in.
Is this how it's supposed to work? Cus it was some scary **** to go through and plus i couldnt read japanese. I also had to bend some metal around the ebrake button. It works now and thats cool, but i just wanna know anyone else's experience with them. I hope I'm using it correctly.
SilviaDriver
12-19-2002, 01:50 AM
the spin knob is mainly made for people who drift. making it easier for them to use the ebrake while drifting. im not into drifting but it sounds like ur using it right, might be wrong tho
Dousan_PG
12-19-2002, 07:25 AM
VERY easy install. takes 5 minutes
but DONT DO IT unless you drift. or your poser and wasting your time (my rant)
remove ebrake boot cover
pry the tabs that hold the spring in (on bottom) or use needlenose plyers and pull the spring out
put ebrake boot back on
push spin knob over stock button
mine came out (spin knob) so i super glued it back on haha..no more shall it do such to me!!
to use the ebrake (for parking) pull button out and pull ebrake up.
CoasTek240
12-19-2002, 08:38 AM
i'm not totally sure what this does.. does this make the ebrake so it doesnt click/engage/lock when u pull up on it?.. so u can whip the rear end around?...
sph33r
12-19-2002, 08:56 AM
Hmm.. I don't think the install of the spin turn knob is quite that complicated. Although perhaps the S13 differs from the other years. The Cusco knob operates on a simple friction principle. You simply push it on to install it, once it pops into the boot your done (takes some effort though). I've had mine on for weeks and if you push the button in, it holds there and you have to pull it out to get it to engage. No need to remove the spring or anything but if you want it to function that way, go for it.
Dousan_PG
12-19-2002, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by sph33r
Hmm.. I don't think the install of the spin turn knob is quite that complicated. Although perhaps the S13 differs from the other years. The Cusco knob operates on a simple friction principle. You simply push it on to install it, once it pops into the boot your done (takes some effort though). I've had mine on for weeks and if you push the button in, it holds there and you have to pull it out to get it to engage. No need to remove the spring or anything but if you want it to function that way, go for it.
YOU DID IT WRONG! haha..
you are supposed to remove the spring! so you dont have to push the button when you drift. do you drift? have you used ebrake techniques? the point is you remove the spring so that you dont have to touch the button. you just grab the ebrake w/ your hand, and yank it up quick and drop it high.
what you will have to end up doing when the rubber wears out is grab it, put finger over the button, pull up, push (let) back down, remove hand. might as well go back to stock w/o the spin knob! you are doing the same thing.
w/ the spring removed you grab it (anywhere) pull up, drop it, hands back on wheel or shifter
maybe right now it is friction but the more you use it the more you'll wear down the boot and it will push up easier. there was friction even when i took out the spring. you are supposed to take out the spring! that's the point of the spin turn knob. the reason it has a lip is to push it up and "lock" position when you park. the spring is to be removed.
Dousan_PG
12-19-2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by CoasTek240
i'm not totally sure what this does.. does this make the ebrake so it doesnt click/engage/lock when u pull up on it?.. so u can whip the rear end around?...
yes. but when you want it to lock (since you have rmoved the spring inside) you just push it forward (manually push it out-using lip on the knob) and that will put it in the "lock" position. just pull it up and walk away.
sph33r
12-19-2002, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
YOU DID IT WRONG! haha..
you are supposed to remove the spring! so you dont have to push the button when you drift. do you drift? have you used ebrake techniques? the point is you remove the spring so that you dont have to touch the button. you just grab the ebrake w/ your hand, and yank it up quick and drop it high.
what you will have to end up doing when the rubber wears out is grab it, put finger over the button, pull up, push (let) back down, remove hand. might as well go back to stock w/o the spin knob! you are doing the same thing.
w/ the spring removed you grab it (anywhere) pull up, drop it, hands back on wheel or shifter
maybe right now it is friction but the more you use it the more you'll wear down the boot and it will push up easier. there was friction even when i took out the spring. you are supposed to take out the spring! that's the point of the spin turn knob. the reason it has a lip is to push it up and "lock" position when you park. the spring is to be removed.
Wow you're excitable.. I hope you don't drink coffee much. I have not experienced the knob coming coming out when dropped but I guess I will. And when I do, I'll follow your advice.
Dousan_PG
12-19-2002, 09:24 AM
nah i dont drink coffee, alcohol or do drugs. clean! keep the mind on the road and tracks and mountains!! haha...back on the track VERY SOON. full day (5+ hours) of sideways action practice..muhahaha...gotta tune car again and suspension..damn, there goes the week/weekend and next week!
anyways
peace!
CoasTek240
12-19-2002, 09:42 AM
wow.. that's pretty neat.. i have not been able to ebrake the amount i want to , i always do too little or i do way too much and spin out.maybe a spin knob will help me with that oh well... practice makes perfect.:D
Dousan_PG
12-19-2002, 09:46 AM
the advantage of it is that it takes the "thinking" out of it, just reach grab pull
dont have to make sure you get your finger over the button to press it or worry about not having it all the way down and still giving friction. one less thing to focus on and put your mind back on the other things moving and going on.
Foxcolt
12-19-2002, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
yes. but when you want it to lock (since you have rmoved the spring inside) you just push it forward (manually push it out-using lip on the knob) and that will put it in the "lock" position. just pull it up and walk away.
Kewl My s14's flat black too!
Ebraking in drift is for beginners:D j/k sorta
I was thinking of getting that but I can't justify spending 30 bucks for a 5 dollar item. Anyone know of a place to get it a little cheaper?
CoasTek240
12-19-2002, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Foxcolt
Kewl My s14's flat black too!
Ebraking in drift is for beginners:D j/k sorta
I was thinking of getting that but I can't justify spending 30 bucks for a 5 dollar item. Anyone know of a place to get it a little cheaper?
yeah i'm sure u can make one but the ting is beign able to ge tti to fit perfectly and also function both in parkign and in drifting
Dousan_PG
12-19-2002, 10:43 AM
JSPEC used to have them, i got mine free when i bought some stuff from sam ..um..he has no more last time i asked.
30 bucks is a lot. go find a kitchen cabinet knob maybe hahaha....or super glue a washer to the tip of the push button on the ebrake...remove the spring too, same effect. or! better yet. drill a hole into the stock button, thread a bolt in like this
bolt head....washer..nut...ebrake button
haha..so many ghetto ways to do it. the best is buy a cusco one. might cost a lot more but 30 bucks shouldnt kill anyone, even though its overpriced
Sniper-X
12-19-2002, 03:54 PM
e-brake drifting is for beginners? Not necessarily. Koguchi, Nomura Ken, Komatsu, Imamura, Yoshioka...and a bunch of other D1 drivers use the e-brake to control their drifts.
The Spin Knob is a great thing to have, but not necessary. A friend of mine makes his own spin knobs for the hachiroku so it's all good.
240Degrees
12-19-2002, 04:54 PM
its not that much hassle even tho u dont drift to put it in the lock position. I wasn't exactly sure how it worked, so i accidently yanked the whole rod out, and to make it easier to go in, i took out the spring. o well. I tightened the metal around the knob, and wd-40ed it, so it pulls in and out fine. I kinda like it. Its especially good for parallel parking on a hill.
Dousan_PG
12-19-2002, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Sniper-X
e-brake drifting is for beginners? Not necessarily. Koguchi, Nomura Ken, Komatsu, Imamura, Yoshioka...and a bunch of other D1 drivers use the e-brake to control their drifts.
extactly!
control and techniques..all about techniques and control
rps13sh
08-25-2003, 03:33 PM
my drift knob doesnt have any thread either. does it go over the stock? if not how do i take off the stock knob? it doesnt screw off like i thought it would. someone tell me how to install this thing please. do i take off the spring or not? so many mixed ideas here. anyone know?
SilviaDriver
08-25-2003, 03:45 PM
old thread but ill post anyways
http://store.yahoo.com/jspec/s13spin.html
240silvia
08-25-2003, 03:48 PM
All you have to do is read the post man, yes you take off the spring and fold the tabs out, and you just push it over the stock knob.:bow:
rps13sh
08-25-2003, 04:51 PM
SO LET THE SPRING JUST DANGLE INSIDE? IF NOT HOW DO I TAKE IT OUT?
Dousan_PG
08-25-2003, 04:56 PM
read the writeup man.
ny_jee
08-25-2003, 05:02 PM
Click Here (http://www.jdmrice.com/tech/spinknob/spinknob.html)
Aaron, I am disappointed in you. All the resource you have, you didn't utilize it. Thanx again for the fender roll.
rps13sh
08-25-2003, 05:04 PM
I ALREADY HAMMERED THE SPIN KNOB IN (i guess my stock button got fat due to heat or something) and i dont think it'll stay if i take it off again. so i shall ask this. is it safe to leave the spring dangling inside?
Fastback180
08-25-2003, 05:29 PM
Anyone experienced any play on their knob? (no pun intended) My friends' is wearing out he says.
Sniper-X
08-25-2003, 08:50 PM
nope. Mine is still all G.
citizen
08-25-2003, 09:06 PM
Just a warning, you must be extremely careful when parking on hills with a spin knob. You must be sure to lock it in place. My friend lost his hachi yesterday because his e-brake failed while he was in his house. Something to think about.
Dousan_PG
08-25-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by citizen
Just a warning, you must be extremely careful when parking on hills with a spin knob. You must be sure to lock it in place. My friend lost his hachi yesterday because his e-brake failed while he was in his house. Something to think about.
on a hill you still should leave your car in gear and your wheels properly curbed.
ive had my spin knob for over 1.5 and parking allllll over the state (nor cal..sf, so cali, LA area..sd) never never had a problem
SilviaDriver
08-25-2003, 09:22 PM
i was wondering. once u isntall the spin knob..removing the spring n all..is there a way u can make ur ebrake back ot normal? like the way it was before u put in the spin knob?
Dousan_PG
08-25-2003, 09:25 PM
keep the spring and dont super glue your spin knob on if it falls off....mine will never go back to stock
hahaha
i think keep spring and parts...or jsut get a new ebrake lever (cheap)
240Degrees
08-26-2003, 01:51 AM
when i was playing with the knob, trying to figure out how it works, i kept on taking it off and putting it on. After a while, i yanked the whole metal rod and spring out. Boy was i scared. I used a vice grip to twist the metal all ghetto so I could stick the rod back in so the rod would lock the ebrake. Mine won't go back to stock either. I probably can't even change my ebrake boot without a lot of hassle. I haven't had any problems with it. Never has the ebrake somehow disengage. Only thing is some people don't know how to use it. ie. mechanic, friends, etc. I'm just glad I didn't yank the whole lever out of the car or something. Suprise! No ebrake!
my own custom spin turn knob (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/manufacturing_industry/specialty_tapes/node_GSBS373X63be/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSNYTMLW46ge/gvel_VJXH5LQ75Xgl/theme_us_specialtytapes_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html)... works better than all your spin turn knobs combined....
boro240
08-26-2003, 02:57 AM
i just lifted the spring over the tabs, took 2 seconds. its still there inside the lever. my Juran knob is still firm and on there good (after who knows how long now). i dont think its coming off (not without a lot of work).
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