DIY JunkYard Turbo kit

[SilviaDriver]

been reading around, and bro suggested to go and see if we can piece together a good junk yard turbo kit, rather than buying an SR or a turbo kit for KA like FMax etc. im thinking could find a turbo off a old skool benz or saab and SMIC in the junk yard. electronics and get soem custom piping. since i dont wanna half ass it. and see if i can get a used turbo manifold or something. think its a good idea? mainly looking for responses from people who HAVE turbo.

[DarkRaptor42]

kinda what im doing. Just find someone to make you a manifold. I picked up a t3, rebuilt it, got a mani made, bought pipes for an SR20, and BOV and waste gate. Just need an IC now. Its alot cheaper, like 3000 cheaper.

[Kreator]

Same here. Except not junkyard but ebay turbo kit <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
Honestly though depends on what you want from your car. If you want high psi and real good performance, id recommend getting better parts or get an sr. If it's a daily driver, it'll be fine.

[Bbandit]

yup i think thats the cheapest way to turbo that KA
im researching for parts right now just like you
so i can have a KA24DE-TC
C stands for cheap

[boosteds14]

i personaly would not go cheap on the turbo kit for a ka. but that is my opinion. it is like rigging it on there. there is a price to pay to play. you dont see supra owners going cheap on there single turbo conversions.

[AutoDestruct]

A Supra Turbo does not cost around 1,000 to 3,000 dollars

[ridebmx]

well if it means anything to any of you, i was seriously pondering the idea about a junk yard turbo kit, since my dad owns one, and it would cost me next to nothing, but after asking people here and talking to them and just debating i would be better off to get a kit, not only is it less hassle when u go to do the install but you will have less problems, maybe if your really good with turbos and stuff it might not be the case, but for me i know very little about them, and didnt want to start piecing it together and have alot of problems down the road...the only part that really scared me was the electronics part...but thats my 2 cents

[AceInHole]

Originally posted by boosteds14
i personaly would not go cheap on the turbo kit for a ka. but that is my opinion. it is like rigging it on there. there is a price to pay to play. you dont see supra owners going cheap on there single turbo conversions.
1. The cheap part usually ends up being paid with the amount of time it takes
2. Supra owners can afford Supras.

My friend ended up paying around $6000 to get his custom turbo kit fully functional. Mine is budgeted under $1000 just to say that it's possible. The biggest difference is I'm doing virtually all the labor on mine (the car won't have seen a shop for anything involving the turbo once it's done). The only thing I didn't do myself is the log manifold, but I had a friend do that so it's a whole different story.

[Jeff240sx]

DON'T SKIMP ON THE WASTEGATE!! After carefull review, I have decided that you can skimp on just about every other part of your turbo kit, but get a good wastegate. And make sure the tube is connected before you go boosting. Take this from a guy who is stranded 2 hours away from home with no car, who spent 8 hours pulling the blown motor.
All other parts you can half-ass on a turbo, and nothing REALLY bad will happen... but the wastegate causes catastrophy.
-Jeff

[nisho]

what all would u need to get if you put it together yourself? like would you need a certain turbo? and certain wastegate? does it matter at all?

[AceInHole]

Originally posted by Jeff240sx
DON'T SKIMP ON THE WASTEGATE!! After carefull review, I have decided that you can skimp on just about every other part of your turbo kit, but get a good wastegate. And make sure the tube is connected before you go boosting. Take this from a guy who is stranded 2 hours away from home with no car, who spent 8 hours pulling the blown motor.
All other parts you can half-ass on a turbo, and nothing REALLY bad will happen... but the wastegate causes catastrophy.
-Jeff

LoL... couldn't you just say to make sure the wastegate's vacuum line is CLAMPED on TIGHT...? I mean... tons of cars get by on the stock internal wastegate, and they don't get any cheaper than that. If anything else, make sure your fuel system is going to work. Then when you over-boost at least you don't detonate :eek:

[huguetpj]

Don't go cheap on the fuel delivery. That's the most important part, if this fails your in for trouble.

[Foxcolt]

Don't go cheap.

Don't boost on stock injectors (my opinion)

Buy quality manifold.

Use stainless steel oil lines for turbo.

Use quality intercooler.

Don't use an afpr.

Tune to run rich. Black smoke pouring out at full throttle is good.

Most important.
Know what you are getting your self into.

[S13Grl]

In my opinion, if you know a lot about cars, if you have access to good tools and a nice garage, and just if you know what you're doing in general, I'd go for it. It's fun making something yourself, gives more boost to your ego :). As these guys have said, be careful what you're stingy with. Some things are worth a lot more then we think.

[ridebmx]

anyone in the upper michigan area that knows alot about turbos that would want to help me then...i have a garage, all the tools, machine shop that would make the stuff i needed...oh and pretty much all the parts

[misnomer]

Keep in mind that this thread is for folks who want an increase in power, but probably don't intend much more than 200 to the wheels. If you were looking for much more, you really don't want to go cheap :P

What cars would you look at to pull a turbocharger from?

The main thing that's been holding me back on any sort of forced induction is the piping. I'm damn clever, and can understand and fix just about any mechanical part, but I don't have the tools or skill to work with metal itself. What did y'all do about your intercooler piping?

[SR20Fastback]

Originally posted by misnomer
The main thing that's been holding me back on any sort of forced induction is the piping. I'm damn clever, and can understand and fix just about any mechanical part, but I don't have the tools or skill to work with metal itself. What did y'all do about your intercooler piping?

I suggest (because most other people do this) take your car to a muffler shop when it comes time, and they will bend your pipes to whatever you need fairly cheap. Think of it as a very inexpensive way of making a nice intercooler kit.

[SilviaDriver]

what kind of FMU should i run? if i do a junkyard turbo kit

[Jeff240sx]

Originally posted by AceInHole
LoL... couldn't you just say to make sure the wastegate's vacuum line is CLAMPED on TIGHT...? I mean... tons of cars get by on the stock internal wastegate, and they don't get any cheaper than that. If anything else, make sure your fuel system is going to work. Then when you over-boost at least you don't detonate :eek:
Would you like your knife back *pulls out of back* cuz you may need it again.
Sheesh. I was just realizing what a significant part of the system the wastegate was. That and trying to dissuade people from buying Deltagates (boost flutter and creep) or cheap beat up ebay wastegates. Boost kills. And as I said before... it really didn't matter if I had JWT ecu with 480cc injectors and a z32 maf, my car would still be dead. At least rings and head gasket would be.
-Jeff

[gmgs14]

Originally posted by S13Grl
In my opinion, if you know a lot about cars, if you have access to good tools and a nice garage, and just if you know what you're doing in general, I'd go for it. It's fun making something yourself, gives more boost to your ego :). As these guys have said, be careful what you're stingy with. Some things are worth a lot more then we think.

You're going to be hard pressed to find someone in northern michigan with 240 knowledge, it's hard enough to find here in Grand Rapids.

[AceInHole]

knowledge comes from within....

or possibly the FSM.

Maximum Boost by Corky Bell couldn't hurt either (more like it should be required text for DIY turbo 101).

[ridebmx]

grand rapids huh...cripes your like 10 hours south of me, do you know anyone down in that area that purchased a wrecked 95 from up here, that stock purple color, hit in the front...i sold one to someone that is going to michigan tech and he sold it to his friend downstate, just wondering who ended up with my old 95 240

[gmgs14]

No, haven't heard of anyone around with that car, but I'm sure I will sometime. The only other guy around here with an S14 moved to maryland.

[SilviaDriver]

we are kinda getting off course here soo ill bring it back

what kind of FMU should i run? if i do a junkyard turbo kit

[240racer]

you can just run a rising rate fuel pressure reg for the application that you have now. It works okay, but it kinda needs to be tuned. This is more for running beyond the capacity of the stock injectors. If you run larger injectors which I recommend then you will need to look into something else. I would recommend keeping the stock MAF at this point since upgrading will only cause more problems. You can run an S-AFC like I have, but it needs to be tuned as well. If you would rather not worry about tuning, then you should run the JWT. However, since you don't want to be reprograming it all the time and boost is addictive, you should probably upgrade your injectors pretty far, like at least 440cc/min and also upgrade the MAF at the same time. The problem is that this tends to be a pretty big pill to swallow and ifg you are running the junkyard turbo kit, probably not what you are looking for. I'd recommend the S-AFC, you can just bring the fuel down at idle and leave it at full rich on the throttle, that's how I have it right now, but not for long.
I'd like to hear other opinions on the cheap junk yard turbo setup FMU stuff, so somebody else pipe in here.

[SilviaDriver]

wat other FMUs are there for our cars besides going with the JWT and the AFCs? any stand alone or anything like wat Hondas have like Hondata?

EDIT; im starting a new thread on this questions, dont want to whore this thread anymore.