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gerson408
06-30-2008, 08:18 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/25/BAH411F12H.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

what has the bay area turned to i hate hearing about stuff like this.they were my friends cuzins

kyoru
06-30-2008, 08:31 PM
really sad story, rip

spoolandslide
06-30-2008, 09:04 PM
although i did not know you, i bit you well in your enevors of the afterlife

rest in peace

Flipzide
06-30-2008, 09:24 PM
that's really unfortunate to hear.

rip.

KA24DESOneThree
06-30-2008, 09:26 PM
MS13 needs to be put down.

gerson408
06-30-2008, 09:30 PM
MS13 needs to be put down.

this country is fucked

murda-c
06-30-2008, 09:35 PM
Seriously how much of a fucking idiot loser do you have to be to join a gang.

One of my cousins was getting into gangs, we set his ass straight real quick.

S13E
06-30-2008, 09:43 PM
I've seen this guy before while picking up oem replacement car parts from where this guy works at. My close friend works at that same spot for a long time. Said a shitload of undercovers rolled thru his work and went thru everything and everyones locker there. At that time, they we're still unable to find the murder weapon. This guy had a Chrystler 300 with speakers installed everywhere.. in the grille and even under the car.

SDS13COUPE
06-30-2008, 09:50 PM
MS13 needs to be put down.

Thats gonna be very hard considering they are in multiple continents. It's very organized and dangerous. This organization is well armed and have mass members in almost every state. It's truly sad about what happened, and my condolences go out to the family. Rip.

gerson408
06-30-2008, 09:51 PM
I've seen this guy before while picking up oem replacement car parts from where this guy works at. My close friend works at that same spot for a long time. Said a shitload of undercovers rolled thru his work and went thru everything and everyones locker there. At that time, they we're still unable to find the murder weapon. This guy had a Chrystler 300 with speakers installed everywhere.. in the grille and even under the car.


problay had that shit stolen from the people hes killed fucken low lifes

airsoft
06-30-2008, 10:47 PM
This gang shit is retarded.

I did hear once a rumor in South Central Los Angeles to have the Army National Guard patrol.

Something about wanting to label gangs domestic terrorists.

Anyhow not sure where I heard that, but I'm sorry to hear news like this : \

ESmorz
06-30-2008, 10:56 PM
I was under the impression this kind of shit happened up there all the time.

Still that makes it none the less sad.

illvialuver
06-30-2008, 11:48 PM
i think this is sad to read. I hate the fact that people just go up to random people and kill them for the smallest reason.

I think people need to realize there is a difference between being gangster and joining a gang.
most people I meet who are in gangs are just ignorant and alone. and the ex gang members are out now because they realize that the only reaons a gang cares for you is when you can do something for them, but if you get hurt or die you are on your own. its sad what people will do just to feel like they belong. sorry to hear about your loss.

DUFFM4N
06-30-2008, 11:54 PM
very sad story indeed, i extend my prayers to you, your friend and his family

Mi Beardo es Loco
07-01-2008, 12:07 AM
seriously, gangs are the mafia's bitch. There's really no money to be made as a gang member. The mafia USES gangs to sell drugs and to do some dirty work every once in a while, but they really don't make any type of money. Plus, little gang members flip on their own ALL THE TIME! It's just the way it works. Usually gang members get into gangs in elementary and eventually get into deeper and deeper shit but in the end they still live in the same ghetto they were born in.

My prayers go to that family. I know if my family were slayed in this type of brutal way I would wish the worst possible to him and everyone he loves for associating with such a scumbag.

an_orange_s2k
07-01-2008, 12:09 AM
terrible news. a friend of mine went to school with one of them

SexPanda
07-01-2008, 12:17 AM
Bad things happen to good people. Trust me. I've lost too many friends to fucked up shit...

RIP. They really are in a better place. My thoughts go out to your friend's family.

HyperTek
07-01-2008, 12:38 AM
sad,, the article didnt give any info on the victims .. mostly just about the suspect and his family/background and now his baby momma gonna suffer.. and prossibly result in one more raised bad seed to society.

FaLKoN240
07-01-2008, 01:55 AM
I go to the same school as the young man that got killed...

I swear to god this shit happens too close to home sometimes.

PhilthyS13
07-01-2008, 02:12 AM
sad,, the article didnt give any info on the victims .. mostly just about the suspect and his family/background and now his baby momma gonna suffer.. and prossibly result in one more raised bad seed to society.

Here's the obit:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/29/MNBOLOGNAM6.DTL&hw=bologna&sn=002&sc=964

It's been an ongoing story, here's some snippets:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/24/MNS011DN2V.DTL&hw=bologna&sn=007&sc=598

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/27/BAV711FM4F.DTL&hw=bologna&sn=009&sc=454

gerson408
07-01-2008, 09:32 AM
i hope that guy dies in jail or gets ass raped by nortenos

ravinaziankid
07-01-2008, 10:53 AM
We should seriously make a concentration camp for these idiot gang members and keep them there to off themselves...this would be pretty justified since they are like animals anyways. I'm sure if they made a law that would throw any gang members or new gangs into a concentration like camp they would rather get a real job instead of robbing and killing people.

just1pepsi
07-01-2008, 10:58 AM
Sorry for your loss, its tough when its sudden and an act of random voilence like this.

origin_s135
07-01-2008, 01:04 PM
loss for words right now, everything's fucked up in this world, especially since we got some dumb fucks shooting people for the petty things. RIP.

ronmcdon
07-01-2008, 06:00 PM
sad,, the article didnt give any info on the victims .. mostly just about the suspect and his family/background and now his baby momma gonna suffer.. and prossibly result in one more raised bad seed to society.

article was pretty poorly written. it was certainly very 1-sided and seemed to be rooting for the killer. some of the things that public defendant says are unbearable dim-witted "ms-13 is a soccer club". you pretty much lose all credibility for trying to insult anyone's intelligence with a statement like that, and you're actually hurting your defendant by admitting he's a part of a notorious gang.

that aside, i do agree there needs to be more pressure thrown at gangs. hopefully all this bad publicity will give the cops some incentive to put things in their proper place.

PhilthyS13
07-02-2008, 12:19 AM
The article was pretty poorly written. It was certainly very 1-sided and seemed to be rooting for the killer. Some of the things that the public defender says are unbearably dim-witted, such as "ms-13 is a soccer club." You pretty much lose all credibility for trying to insult anyone's intelligence with a statement like that, and you're actually hurting your client by admitting that he's a part of a notorious gang.


I didn't get the impression that it was "rooting" for the killer, just stating facts. Read the rest of the stories that I posted, it's only an update out of a larger story. SFgate posts stuff as they happen - sometimes only a sentence long. If anything, public opinion favors the family.

And if your defense attorney doesn't profess your innocence, you should fire him. I don't think Johnnie Cochran insulted anyone's intellegence when he defended OJ. Besides, the PD didn't say that - the gang did. The exact words are "O'Sullivan said his client, who goes by the last name of Escobar, is a member of MS-13, an organization whose members contend is 'nothing more than a soccer group.'" Mafia members denied that the mafia existed until the 60's or 70's until one guy finally testified that the mafia did in fact exist.

PhilthyS13
07-02-2008, 12:36 AM
The tragic gunning down of a father and two of his sons on their way home from an afternoon barbecue has really struck a chord in San Francisco.

With all the pomp usually reserved for the princely and the famous, 1,000 mourners crowded inside and outside St. Paul's Catholic Church in Noe Valley on Tuesday for a two-hour memorial Mass for nighttime grocery manager Tony Bologna, 48, and sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, who were shot to death in their car June 22 in the Excelsior.

Mayor Gavin Newsom and Supervisors Ross Mirkarimi and Gerardo Sandoval were among those in attendance, as was a big contingent of students from Lincoln High, where the younger Bologna was a star athlete.

When the service was over, no fewer than a dozen motorcycle cops and officers in squad cars escorted the three hearses and 280-car procession of mourners to the city limits. At that point, a contingent of San Mateo County sheriff's deputies accompanied the funeral procession to the Italian Cemetery in Colma.

Edwin Ramos, 21, of El Sobrante, who police say is a member of a violent gang, has been charged with the killings. The case has touched off a public furor, with Bologna's widow, Danielle Bologna, demanding that D.A. Kamala Harris seek the death penalty.



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/01/BABB11I3A8.DTL&tsp=1

gerson408
07-02-2008, 10:24 AM
i hate gangs