97KATURBOSILVIA (Do not sell to this guy)

[CursedGTR]

Although this is not a seller I feel the need to post this up for other sellers out there that may deal with this guy. I made a deal to send him R33 Brakes COD and upon learning that I could not do COD from my location; I offered to send him the brakes with promise of payment upon his reciept of the kit. He agreed and I arranged shipping and sent the entire kit off to him trusting he would pay as promised.

I sent the brakes with signature confirmation and he himself PM'd me verifying receipt of the brakes and promised payment within 1-2 days. After one week I have not heard from him nor have I recieved a reply to my PM's.

I am not one to bitch and complain if you need a little extra time or you need some help working through it but you have to let me know these things so I can make the allowance for you.

I will not do business with this person again and I warn others who may be dealing with him right now to ask for payment up front or not sell anything to him at all.

Mods - Maybe we can get a buyer review section as well??? Sellers usually have just as much riding on something as buyers do.

[SoguRacing]

thats why you dont do COD

[derek_s13]

thats why you dont do COD
agreed, but he's letting us all know rather than making some thread bitching about it.

cursed, you deserve some credit for this man.

[CursedGTR]

thats why you dont do COD

Yeah, lesson learned on this one.

[drift into a curb]

That sucks. I think that guy has contacted me for parts before. He probably think he got away but if somebody knows him, speak up! It's a pretty small community.

[CursedGTR]

I am a bit of an asshole so I decided to report this clown to the FBI for mail fraud. I will let you guys know what happens with that if anyone so desires.

[S13Boosts]

AH FUCK i was gon send payment too....

[murda-c]

You have his address right?

EDIT: Shit you're in japan nvm.

[CursedGTR]

Ihave been e-mailing this guy for a week telling him I was going to do it unless he got in touch with me.

All he had to do was just reply to an e-mail and all would have been cool. To bad so sad, hope he doesn't work for any type of governement organization (State, Local or Federal).

[CursedGTR]

You have his address right?

EDIT: Shit you're in japan nvm.

If I was near there I would have done tossed a beat down or at least showed up and taken my shit back by force.

[FaLKoN240]

You're hella trippin, cash up front, or keep steppin. You can't trust ANYONE especially overseas.

I don't care how desperate you are for money or to get rid of something.

[drift into a curb]

Yeah but sucks that human nature is to take advantage of the situation. CursedGTR tried his best to work with the situation and got screwed by the bitch on the other end. I say we hang 97KATURBOSILVIA. That's retarded. An example of why free market/selling doesn't work because we have douche bags like 97KA go and ruin it.

Maybe he's trying to gather up money or held up with something. He hasn't been back on since the 27th, so if he's on again and no answer, you'll know he's just trying to avoid you.

[essforteen]

yea thats why i think paypal was invented and thats why i only use paypal for non local sales and purchases well good luck on getting your money /stuff back..

[MikeisNissan]

But why the fuck would you send him something he hasent payed for?! Money first!

[Koopa Troopa]

But why the fuck would you send him something he hasent payed for?! Money first!


Cause Brian is an outstanding person who will go out of his way to help people out, even those he doesn't know...


You just don't want to piss him off though....



Sorry you got dicked man.

[CursedGTR]

You're hella trippin, cash up front, or keep steppin. You can't trust ANYONE especially overseas.

I don't care how desperate you are for money or to get rid of something.


Funny thing is I am far from hard up for cash right now. I just wanted to help someone out and possibly build up my rep as good seller that will work with people. Good thing I only got screwed out of 450.00 and I have since made that money back through other means. However, What if he had been an upstanding person that had a trust issue on his end because he got screwed before himself??? Then he would be an outstanding buyer and not a thief.

I don't think I am trippin at all, it is theft plain and simple and I took care of it like so. My e-mails were sent BEFORE his last logon and twice since then, so I am guessing that he is in fact avoiding me. Anyways, I really don't give a shit if I get my money back or not, I just want to make him have a headache for a couple of hours dealing with the bullshit he may endure from a complaint being filed against him.

Koopa Knows me personally what he says is true. I will say that I will stay up late returning PM's requesting my help, go dig parts out of yards for people, haggle with dudes that do not speak my language to get a good price on something someone has requested I send them, direct guys to other people that may be able to help them better than I because my reputation is most important to me fuck making a dollar when your rep is on the line if you know what I mean.

But if you fuck me over I will get your ass back. My little complaint took 5 minutes to write and may or may not cause a headache for my little friend over there but we will see in due time, if it does it was well worth my 5 minutes while I ate my breakfast and surfed porn while waiting for screens to upload.

By no means is this thread meant to be a bitch fest because it is not. I gave someone the benefit of the doubt and lost. Truthfully, if I couldn't afford to take a bit of a loss from time to time I wouldn't even try to sell my shit on the net. But a dishonest fucktard should not be allowed to purchase anything from anyone on this site regardless of his standing.

Just my two yen, but I could be the one that is fucked up.

[sillyvia13]

repsect to you.
Honor has better worth than $.

my .02 cents.

[PXRdriFT]

Funny thing is I am far from hard up for cash right now. I just wanted to help someone out and possibly build up my rep as good seller that will work with people. Good thing I only got screwed out of 450.00 and I have since made that money back through other means. However, What if he had been an upstanding person that had a trust issue on his end because he got screwed before himself??? Then he would be an outstanding buyer and not a thief.

I don't think I am trippin at all, it is theft plain and simple and I took care of it like so. My e-mails were sent BEFORE his last logon and twice since then, so I am guessing that he is in fact avoiding me. Anyways, I really don't give a shit if I get my money back or not, I just want to make him have a headache for a couple of hours dealing with the bullshit he may endure from a complaint being filed against him.

Koopa Knows me personally what he says is true. I will say that I will stay up late returning PM's requesting my help, go dig parts out of yards for people, haggle with dudes that do not speak my language to get a good price on something someone has requested I send them, direct guys to other people that may be able to help them better than I because my reputation is most important to me fuck making a dollar when your rep is on the line if you know what I mean.

But if you fuck me over I will get your ass back. My little complaint took 5 minutes to write and may or may not cause a headache for my little friend over there but we will see in due time, if it does it was well worth my 5 minutes while I ate my breakfast and surfed porn while waiting for screens to upload.

By no means is this thread meant to be a bitch fest because it is not. I gave someone the benefit of the doubt and lost. Truthfully, if I couldn't afford to take a bit of a loss from time to time I wouldn't even try to sell my shit on the net. But a dishonest fucktard should not be allowed to purchase anything from anyone on this site regardless of his standing.

Just my two yen, but I could be the one that is fucked up.

good shit, bro. sorry this happened. hope it doesn't change your outlook completely. there are still honest people out there. good luck in the future.

[JohnRed]

give me his Ip, ask a moderator. I will give you his adress/phone number...... or anything else youll need to contact him

[FaLKoN240]

I've been watching your build, and I know you're not hurting for money, I was merely stating this as seller's advice for other members on this forum.

I'm sure you are a great guy and very organized and was just trying to provide a service, but I don't trust anyone in this shady market of lowballing, stealing, lying thieves. Sorry to hear you got jacked, it will definitely hurt your trust when selling on this board later which is unfortunate.

Funny thing is I am far from hard up for cash right now. I just wanted to help someone out and possibly build up my rep as good seller that will work with people. Good thing I only got screwed out of 450.00 and I have since made that money back through other means. However, What if he had been an upstanding person that had a trust issue on his end because he got screwed before himself??? Then he would be an outstanding buyer and not a thief.

I don't think I am trippin at all, it is theft plain and simple and I took care of it like so. My e-mails were sent BEFORE his last logon and twice since then, so I am guessing that he is in fact avoiding me. Anyways, I really don't give a shit if I get my money back or not, I just want to make him have a headache for a couple of hours dealing with the bullshit he may endure from a complaint being filed against him.

Koopa Knows me personally what he says is true. I will say that I will stay up late returning PM's requesting my help, go dig parts out of yards for people, haggle with dudes that do not speak my language to get a good price on something someone has requested I send them, direct guys to other people that may be able to help them better than I because my reputation is most important to me fuck making a dollar when your rep is on the line if you know what I mean.

But if you fuck me over I will get your ass back. My little complaint took 5 minutes to write and may or may not cause a headache for my little friend over there but we will see in due time, if it does it was well worth my 5 minutes while I ate my breakfast and surfed porn while waiting for screens to upload.

By no means is this thread meant to be a bitch fest because it is not. I gave someone the benefit of the doubt and lost. Truthfully, if I couldn't afford to take a bit of a loss from time to time I wouldn't even try to sell my shit on the net. But a dishonest fucktard should not be allowed to purchase anything from anyone on this site regardless of his standing.

Just my two yen, but I could be the one that is fucked up.

[CursedGTR]

I've been watching your build, and I know you're not hurting for money, I was merely stating this as seller's advice for other members on this forum.

I'm sure you are a great guy and very organized and was just trying to provide a service, but I don't trust anyone in this shady market of lowballing, stealing, lying thieves. Sorry to hear you got jacked, it will definitely hurt your trust when selling on this board later which is unfortunate.

I gotcha now. Good advice for all.

[twistedsymphony]

CRAP...

I bought over $400 worth of stuff from this guy on June 6th

Payed with paypal and he was verified (I don't send money to unverified people anymore)

I didn't hear from him for a few weeks so I sent him a PM and asked if the stuff had shipped.

He gave me a couple of UPS tracking numbers and apologized for the delay

that was on the 21st and I figured he just got busy or whatever.

well I still haven't got anything and the tracking numbers just say "billing information received" meaning he hasn't actually dropped anything off to be shipped.

PMed him a few days ago and didn't get a response, logged in today to see if he has logged in since and see what's up... and I saw this topic...

I've opened a paypal dispute...

I needed those parts for an event last week anyway so I'm beyond done waiting for this crap :-/


Since he's verified paypal will get me at least most of my money back if he doesn't respond to the dispute... they'll refund me right out of his account first, and if there's no money they'll give me 75% and his credit goes in the garbage.

And supposedly he does work for a government agency, he is apparently works for the fire department (or at least thats what he told me)

[flawlessflo3190]

he lives close by me....what was it that you exactly sold to him....?

[twistedsymphony]

he lives close by me....what was it that you exactly sold to him....?
the OP sold him some Brakes

I BOUGHT a few things from him (s14)
-kouki sideskirts
-tokiko shocks with some mystery springs
-interior pieces for the cent console
-mirror trim for the drivers side
-brake and clutch pedal assemblies

[MikeisNissan]

Oh shit your the guy with the monster S15.. my god.

[CursedGTR]

I am going to try to make this thread disappear. 97KATURBOSILVIA has contacted me and informed that he was out of touch due to a computer crash and wants to get this worked out.

I just want to say in light of that, I think this thread is a bit unfair and I apologize.

Brian.

[silviatunersr20]

I hope he comes through cause I had a wtb thread the other sunday for a sr tb/tps and he said he got payment that sunday night well its been 11 days and have not seen it yet so I filed a claim with paypal today cause I have been ripped on this site twice already. I went ahead and found a another guy that had a tb for sale and I payed him tues and it came in today from AZ

[97KATURBOSILVIA]

First Off My Apologies, My Computer Was Out For Almost A Week (mods Can Check My Logins) I Have Contacted All Conserning Parties. My Number Is 321-890-6215( I Live In Florida) And I Am Not In The Buisness Of Scaming No One, Everyone Has Or Has Had There Tracking Numbers. Also Payment Was Sent To Cursedgtr But It Was Not Accepted (status). I Have Spoken To Him And Re Arranged Payment. Again To All Delayed By My Computer For A Week Sorry But You Are Now Going To Be Straight Or Already Are.

Persons Affected
Twistedsymphony
Lifewater
Cursedgtr
S13boost

Thanks For The Understanding

[wangan_cruiser]

thats why you dont do COD




he is warning potential seller to this kind of person. you rarely find people who are willing to ship their parts before getting the money.

[brndck]

First Off My Apologies, My Computer Was Out For Almost A Week (mods Can Check My Logins) I Have Contacted All Conserning Parties. My Number Is 321-890-6215( I Live In Florida) And I Am Not In The Buisness Of Scaming No One, Everyone Has Or Has Had There Tracking Numbers. Also Payment Was Sent To Cursedgtr But It Was Not Accepted (status). I Have Spoken To Him And Re Arranged Payment. Again To All Delayed By My Computer For A Week Sorry But You Are Now Going To Be Straight Or Already Are.

Persons Affected
Twistedsymphony
Lifewater
Cursedgtr
S13boost

Thanks For The Understanding
good job 97kat for stepping up and taking responsibility and trying to make things right. :wiggle:

[twistedsymphony]

I haven't received a pm, email, paypal message, call or anything.

UPS says that my packages still haven't shipped

How exactly did you try to contact me?

[S13Boosts]

okay okay its coo payment will be sent!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[projectRDM]

yea thats why i think paypal was invented and thats why i only use paypal for non local sales and purchases well good luck on getting your money /stuff back..

Actually, no. Paypal was invented so that buyers/sellers could use merchant accounts without having a business license. In theory it was a good idea.

Since Ebay bought them out though their purpose is to fuck every possible person for as much money as they can by hiding funds in non claimed accounts and drawing interest off it while people wait patiently, then are told they can't do anything for them. www.paypalsucks.com, read it, learn it, live it. Or take it up the ass.

[twistedsymphony]

out of the 7 items I bought from this guy... it's been a month and a half and I've only received one item, and it was packed pretty poorly and missing parts... :-/

[PBucch]

Zilvians, please do not let this asshole get away with this. Anyone can lie about comp crashes and all that.

[0wn3r]

Hmmmf he's got a car for sale

[twistedsymphony]

my parts still haven't shipped and he hasn't responded to any of my PMs or emails for days despite the fact that Zilvia said he has logged in several times.

I'm seriously considering contacting the police if I don't hear from him soon. If I don't hear from him by Monday I may just do that...

[sillyvia13]

E beatings coming soon...
Get your caps locks arm and readYYYYYY.

[twistedsymphony]

Still no parts...

I got paperwork to file for small claims....

this is really pissing me off.

[CursedGTR]

Yeah and still no money. I will be giving him a call in the next couple of days, he might just be hearing from one of my brothers in person as well.

[twistedsymphony]

I can't believe the Zilvia community is letting this guy get away from this stuff...

nearly every other car forum I've been too has come through and "taken care of" characters like this .... with the staff providing info from behind the scenes and local members helping out....

this is shameful :mad:

particularly because it's more than one member...

[noodl35]

Admins need to do something about this crook! I am absolutely digusted by thieves, whether a seller or buyer.

something needs to be done...

[Phlip]

User has been banned from the marketplace indefinitely, I strongly suggest anyone involved in this file paypal disputes and/or contact local law enforcement...
Before anyone starts complaining that we don't volunteer these peoples' information, I would invite you to notice how much information we collected from ANY of you to buy or sell anything here.

[twistedsymphony]

Thank you :)

Though Paypal denied my claim because he shipped SOMETHING... apparently unless it's an ebay auction they don't care about the "item description" just whether or not the seller provided a valid tracking number

I've appealed it with paypal twice and despite the fact that the list of everything I agreed to purchase was in the original payment details and I sent them a picture of the one thing I actually received they still side with this chump. :-/