To Sileighty or not...

[eXpLoSiVe]

I have a problem...i want to make a Sil-80 but then again I dont....cause the silvias look oh so sexy...i want to know what u guys think....Sileighty or Silvia??? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

[Dousan_PG]

silvia. sileighty is so bleh. some people's look good (sileightymania-but he's an original stateside i guess you could say). sil80 is too initial d-ish. go silvia. simple, clean, how the car should be.

that's my .02 cents

[Cool Kat S]

Thanks to the horrendously bad taste of most 240 owners, all these new sil80s are looking and performing like Chairman Mao's ass. &nbsp;This trend is so played out now. Thanks for ruining it guys.

[chokudoriS13]

If its tastefully done and not because of Initial D, then why not? &nbsp;There are plenty of clean Sil80's out there (Benson's is a perfect example, although his is scarily perfect &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> ). &nbsp;Nice ones can look as good as any Silvia.

Here's a clean one (Japanese pic, I think, but notice the Camaro in the background..."the grass is always greener...." &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/pc2512238c56f55f7c1bace1e7ba92535/fcfc776a.jpg

[guyverwing]

how about the s15 sileighty. those look so swweeet

[s13driver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chokudoriS13 @ Dec. 11 2002,7:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/pc2512238c56f55f7c1bace1e7ba92535/fcfc776a.jpg</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that sileighty in the pic looks kinda fake.. i mean it looks like it was photochopped... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[s13driver]

edit: double post.

[chokudoriS13]

If that is photoshopped, whoever did it is a world-class photoshopper... by that, I mean its not.

[Got Sileighty?]

well by looking at my name, u can probably tell which one i would choose hehehe. once i get the funds, mine is most likely gonna be just like the pic posted above, except for the rims. im hoping i can get my hands on the non projector lights too, seeing as how they are soo rare.

so basically, its the sileighty, cuz the extra trunk space cant hurt. based on looks alone, id say theyre pretty much even, it depends on how i feel that day hehhe. but show me a nice and shiny black silvia, and im sold &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

you hear that chokudori? hurry up with your paint job already hehe

[eXpLoSiVe]

Camera One - Sileighty
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p1954d32a96242ce7b3b8e0bb90d7cc5e/fcf12c5b.jpghttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pbc15fa3f2389dfd702a850d6d3c25acb/fcf12c5d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pf7a478c73579aa3ffe517be3d5a614d1/fcf12e14.jpghttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p294f71276348facf363d2a5c17c9ca6b/fcf12e13.jpg

Camrera two - Silvia
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pf75e904b165fc6bc8706d0d1732a56d7/fcf12e17.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pe1d6a9872f7aa55d75d757e4f286378f/fcf12e19.jpg

Camera Three - 180sx
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/pd508e937b1eefd6490230248a1222d21/fcf12c5f.jpghttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p373d6ec4e40604fa96bc2e71e8767007/fcf12c5e.jpg

Ok u guys take a look at theses and tell me which one to make my project...its a given that it'll have a an sr20det but the body is where i cant decide!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[DSC]

I like the silvia the best, boxy front and rear. The sileighty has a boxy front with curved rear and just looks kinda odd...tho i still like them. The 180 is curved front and rear and looks great. s15sileighty (sil1580 or whatever) curved front and rear at least but the front is too large to look right IMO.

Personally I feel that any conversions that don't look like they COULD have come that way from the factory are a little much. I don't mean not putting a kit on, it should just look like some guy put a kit on not that he swapped the entire front end. Of the listed conversions, the 240sx coupe with s13 silvia front end is the only one that looks stock.

[AKADriver]

The Sileighty was factory, though (of course, after it'd already been done aftermarket for years). &nbsp;And by extension you could say the S13 240SX coupe is wrong too (but I like it... especially with the later front end).

If you're set on a Silvia nose, explosive, I'd go with the coupe body... but I'd say go with the coupe body even if you weren't...

[drift freaq]

well contrary to what some of you guys claim. I have seen the 1580 up close . The front is not to wide for the car. In fact as far as sil eighty goes the 1580 IMO is the sickest looking and it looks correct lines wise.
the standard sil eighty looks good with the aero bumper or the K's office bumper.
In response to cool cat S, Your statement about most 240 owners is a very biased broadly generalized statement. It also is pretty much untrue. I would say most 240 owners have better taste in body work than any Honda owner I have ever seen . Hahahhahhaha.
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[eXpLoSiVe]

Thanx for all your input guys...i think in the end its gonna be the silvia....i'll post pics as it develops....oh and also what kinda kit is on the black silvia??

[Cool Kat S]

The secret to a good looking sil80:

LOTS OF MONEY.

If you're going to go the cheap route after getting the conversion, forget it. Just drive your car into a brick wall. Look at all the sil80 pics that explosive put up, most of those rims go for $2000+ with tires. Don't forget the cost of springs or coilovers,paint, and a bodykit if you want to go that route.

[AKADriver]

Well, uh, that could be applied to any car.

You don't have to spend a stupid amount of money on a sileighty to look decent. &nbsp;The key is just being careful where you spend it. &nbsp;Use a stock Silvia bumper with a lip instead of a full imported body kit. &nbsp;Go for used or normally available in the US new wheels instead of brand new imported stuff. &nbsp;Respray the new panels in your car's original color instead of going for a color change. &nbsp;Go with a good spring/strut combo instead of coils. &nbsp;Be proud of your zenki taillights instead of dropping 5 bills on kouki units.

What looks half-assed is a lack of attention to detail, not a lack of aftermarket parts. &nbsp;Go to Benson's site and look at his list of modifications; outside of engine and suspension stuff it's short. &nbsp;But his car looks good because of attention to detail.

[Dousan_PG]

benson's car is pretty simple

suspension:
coilovers
tc rods
stbs

engine:
stock (powerwise)
bov
koyo

all the money went to wheels hahaa..car looks good though. i like the interior he's got now, nice stuff.

anyways
i say go old school!!! chuuki bumper, low offest wheels, lotsa camber (only if you drift or road race---NO POSERS--meaning lots of camber for your city driving) and maybe a simple spoiler..hmm

ok enough of my crap opinino. its your car, THNK FOR YOURSELF

[Nerfdude]

i'm going to have to go ahead and say that the s15 sileighty/1580 is by far the best looking. if i had the money, i'd totally go for it. but since i don't, and since i don't really like the s13 sil front end... the 180/USDM 240 hatch is the best of the given. just give me a PDM lower lip on my '92 and i'm set.

http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/imag/April1e.jpg

oh yeah.... mmmm.... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[Cool Kat S]

You guys can only copy Benson for so long before people start noticing an army of Benson look-a-likes which ain't gonna be pretty.

Dousan is right. Think for yourself.

[drift freaq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You guys can only copy Benson for so long before people start noticing an army of Benson look-a-likes which ain't gonna be pretty.
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hahahha. The funny thing about that statement is, Benson has already said to me on occasion that there were two many Black sil eightys out there already. He already feels like he has been copied way to much.
I personally own a Metallic Gun Metal Grey 92 SE hatch without sunroof. It already stands out. It will get Kouki tails becuase I think the car looks good with them. I also would love to do a 1580. I am not going to spend $2000-3000 on a S15 front end kit though . I would have to get a serious hook up to do it.
I will most likely go type &nbsp;x front end because I am a big fan of urethane bumpers over fiberglass,
As far as my rear goes that remains to be sign if I do anything it will be something that has never been seen in the states.
For now though I focus more on my drivetrain and suspension.
After all my car is meant to be driven not stared at.
When I was at the National convention it was kinda weird. I mean the cars were almost to clean. Like all show.
these cars are should be driven and driven hard. Be it autocross , touge or drift.
Bensons car looks good in pics . I have seen the battle scars though.
He drives it like it should be. Function over form period. Look good but do not sacrifice usability for the sake of looks.

[Mazakin]

Sileightys are crap!! If you want a cool car drive a MIATA

[Got Sileighty?]

hey explosive, nice pics. where did u find all of them? cuz im looking for wallpapers for my pc.

and does anyone know what rims are on the black 180sx with the kouki taillights? those are sweeeeeeet.

[kazuo]

Umm... why are we all swinging off Benson's nuts all of a sudden? It's not like Benson came up with the concept of a SilEighty -- all he did was copy what people in Japan had been doing for years. Its no different than whats happening now. Other people are copying Benson, who in turn copied others.

So I fail to see where the "Let's-all-swing-off-Benson's sack" comes in. No offence (sic) intended to Benson, but really now, kids. He's just like the rest of us, no more, no less.

Anyway, to get back on topic, I happen to like the SilEighty. but thats just me. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[eXpLoSiVe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Got Sileighty? @ Dec. 12 2002,11:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey explosive, nice pics. where did u find all of them? cuz im looking for wallpapers for my pc.

and does anyone know what rims are on the black 180sx with the kouki taillights? those are sweeeeeeet.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Well i dont have the web sites where i got the pics...but ur welcome to check out my photoalbum at www.imagestation.com, desktop pics ehh....check out theses that i made when i was bored:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p16e33636e7a1a880a07f42551b604fbf/fcf043d5.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p20ddaf215b3ebf643926b39218ed68ef/fcf043d7.jpg
Get the Full size pics at My Album (http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291002383)

[arenah]

hey im a noob to all this but it appears everyone looks past the onevia(i think its called) its the silvia rear with the 180 nose, its really popular for drifters in japan at the moment, anyways as u guys where allreadys saying its all ways what u do to it and attention to detail that makes the car look good. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':withstupid:'>

[Dousan_PG]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (arenah @ Dec. 13 2002,03:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">onevia(i think its called) its the silvia rear with the 180 nose, its really popular for drifters in japan at the moment,</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i wouldnt say "at the moment" its been popular for many many years, remember, 180sx and silvias (s13) stopped production in 96? i forget, but before 2000.

pop-up front ends are relatively cheap too, 180sx was a very popular automobile.

as far as "hanging off benson's nutsack" (not exact quote) yeah that's true, but sil80 in my opinion is a drift car. not a show car or poser car. people had sil80 ORIGINALLY because their 180sx front end was crunched and a s13 front end was cheap and easy to replace it with. benson drifts (and damn good as well) so i think he has all the reason. for all the posers out there who want a MaD pHaT SiLeIgHtY Yo...you people make me sick.

ok that's all for now.

[AKADriver]

heh, well, vanity is the only reason to do it in the US, when a 180/240SX front end is so much cheaper. &nbsp;Not that there's anything wrong with that... &nbsp;My GTI has the front end from a Jetta on it... &nbsp;just don't kid yourself by saying it's "for drifting".

[drift freaq]

I would totally agree with dousan,
my comments about what Benson said were based on stuff here in cali.
Neither Benson or I have either believed he was doing something that was not copied from drifters in Japan. In fact it would be somewhat ludicrous and very pretentious for him to think that. He doesn't plain and simple.
though when Benson first did it here over close to three years ago, it was unique to Cali.
That is what he was commenting to me about. Now everyone down here is doing it.
People do like to feel somewhat unique. 240 owners especially, we stand out . Mostly because our cars are more function over form. We tend to be less into form.
This is way I made my original statement about the &nbsp;National convention.
It scares me when I start seeing 240's so clean you eat off them . It basically means the driver either A: washes it everyday and or B: does not drive it but parks it for looks.
Yes I am getting my dings and dents fixed and my car repainted .
Don't believe for second though that shit might happen . I do not drive my car softly. I am notorious for abusing the *(&^ out of it. hahahhahhahahaha
drive it sideways? hell yes!!! Push it as hard as possible ? hell yes!!
oops fender gets scraped damn oh well sooner later its back to the paint shop but if it gets battle scars it comes with the territory.
Now remember the best place to do these things is on tracks.
(non street racing disclaimer has been inserted, hehehhe)

[Dousan_PG]

i agree. i am getting my car repainted nice and "showy" of sorts next year it seems..get those dents out too..only to be replace w/ new ones soon enough.

i go to the track 2-3 times a month now and most of next year too it seems. i beat the hell out of it, that's what its for....

as drift freaq said about the convention...SO MANY CLEAN CARS. how many of those 240sx were at the track the following day? there wasnt much. it was pretty disappointing.

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Dec. 13 2002,11:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">heh, well, vanity is the only reason to do it in the US, when a 180/240SX front end is so much cheaper. Not that there's anything wrong with that... My GTI has the front end from a Jetta on it... just don't kid yourself by saying it's "for drifting".</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LOL - what a funny topic. &nbsp;

I'm w/ AKA here - I can shell an entire fastback 240 a minimum of three times before I get near the cost of a single Silvia nose. &nbsp;As was said, it ain't for drifting - but it does/did look different. &nbsp;

For the most part, I'm just a fan of do what you want for the purpose you are doing it. &nbsp;If you are going to be the next drift king, I would advise using/keeping the cheaper front of the two. &nbsp;If you want to show your creativity, drop the coin. &nbsp;We don't all have to race or drift (or make excuses as if we did). &nbsp;It's OKAY to just want a nice clean car.

Personally, I've got no problem w/ the guys who take their car to the show and then don't drive them on the track... so long as they don't start telling me about how they race and how everything is all about performance. &nbsp;Show cars are okay - but don't tell me it's a race car.

Mark - who wishes he had a nice shiny car for the streets instead of one with racer's tape residue all over it and weeds stuck the in tire bead. &nbsp;Next year &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>

[CartuneRS]

i want to publicly appologize to benson at this time for making too many black sileighties. &nbsp;im sorry man. &nbsp;i knew i pissed you off the first time, but a couple more times? &nbsp;yep, thats why ive been hooking you up with fixing your mafs and shit whenever it falls off.

benson? &nbsp;benson? &nbsp;are you even on here?

edwin
cartune-online.com

[Got Sileighty?]

hey explosive, those pics/wallpapers look nice. too bad i cant see your album cuz im not registered at imagestation =(. o well....onward i go with my search hehe

[adey]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CartuneRS @ Dec. 13 2002,4:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i want to publicly appologize to benson at this time for making too many black sileighties. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

When I damaged my front end (fender, rad. support, headlight ass'y etc) &nbsp;it cost me 800 to repair... for another $100 I could've gotten the silvia front end... I don't know if I regret it though; I love the popup lights!

AKA driver- you drive a MkIII, right?... I've been contemplating this swap on my MkIV for a lonngggg time now, but the more I look at the Golf face, the more I like it! Maybe I'll just stick with blacking out the headlight cluster housing.

[AKADriver]

Yep, see sig, It's a '96. &nbsp;It's a lot easier on the MkIII, all I needed was the hood, headlights, and grille. &nbsp;I swapped with a girl that wanted my GTI stuff.

[elevator]

I have 2 Sileighties. I love them. They have the advantage of being "different". You see a lot of 180's around but only a handful of Sileighties.

An advantage as I see it is that you have the best looking part of the Silvia matched up with the best looking part of the 180. The best of both.

Funny thing though.....
My son drives one of the cars. ANd I drive the other. A guy in a Silvia came up to him the other day and asked how hard it would be to put the back end of a 180 on his Silvia. My son nearly laughed in his face.... he said, "Oh it is really hard!...but worth it!" :D

[AceInHole]

scr3w d4 h8ers

The only reason to go sil-eighty is because of Initial D. If I still had my s13 I'd have gone sil-eighty by now, and I'd be proud to say that the reason is because of Initial D. I mean.... Initial D was the reason I looked into a rear wheel drive car anyways. Before that I wanted a Corrado (supercharger anyone?).

The REAL lame people are the people that jumped the Initial D bandwagon later and ruined it for all us original Initial D fans. We had a good thing going untill people tried humping curbs on their own.... :mad:

[Dousan_PG]

you said "import scene" tee hee hee
sounds like something my mom and dad would say when i see them!

[ruf]

"Import scene"... hahahahahaha! Something else I avoid like the "street RACING scene"...

[ruf]

Um. My name is Joe.

[Dousan_PG]

and i'm aaron! how you doing?!

[Dousan_PG]

haha..
i like sil80s, some look good some dont. yeah initial d might have "screwed' it for everyone but its all about how you present it. some i see look good., some look like ass.

i didnt read this thread, i just felt like saying this.

i saw part of one initial d and i fell asleep. how exciting it was!

[Dousan_PG]

here's a nice sil80

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/pe80b90caf7980516155315fcfab0eb11/fcbd05f7.jpg

[boro240]

how can you judge something youve never seen? i used to be into initial d but then it got kinda trendy so i backed off a bit. i still think its a pretty good anime though. i knew about sileighties well before i even heard about initial d. i used to want to make one, and then i thought about an S14 sileighty, but that kinda faded. i still wouldnt mind having one, cause i personally think its pretty cool and nice looking. theres no real reason for it other than to look different, and for style. anything about it being about drifting is BS. to wach his own though. dont hate.

[Dousan_PG]

s14 sil80s are nasty. bleh doesnt match and i've seen QUITE a few pics of them so i'm not talkinga bout of my ass (pics from magazines, not the ones online).
now a s14 front on a s13 COUPE DOES look very good-well better then a fstback

s13 silvia fronts on s14s look out of place though.
kinda like how s15 fronts on s13 silvias are out of place.


at least those are my thoughts

i love popups

[AceInHole]

everything is a product of anime.... if only my car was gundam.

[some guy]

Sileighty are definitly nice, I love the fastback, but I don't like pop-up lights. So Sileighty's got the best of both worlds. :o

[wpayne]

I would say go with whatever you want. If you like, then do it. Who cares what other people think. Too many people are carried away with what the car looks like and what people who see them will associate them with or label them as. It's your car and you can do what ever you want to do with it but it's not your penis. Don't get that confused or let other people who are confused bother you. But don't jump on the bandwagon just because others are doing it. "It was in a magazine! Must be cool!"

I have never seen Initial D in m life and I don't plan too. I haven't even heard of it till I moved to the states (5 months ago) but I've always wanted to go sil-eighty because (like dousan said earlier) it was the cheaper alternative to getting your smashed 180 fixed right and I like the ghetto (*maybe* oldschool) look compared to the nice-flashy-showoff-blingbling look.

[Jim96SC2]

BAH! Give me an Ikeya Formula bumper and I'll keep my pop-ups.

[chokudoriS13]

Why does it say that I started this thread, when in fact, I did not? This new forum software apparently sucks...:D

[elevator]

Originally posted by some guy
Sileighty are definitly nice, I love the fastback, but I don't like pop-up lights. So Sileighty's got the best of both worlds. :o

ABSOLUTELY!! and if it is a GENUINE Sileighty it has the turbo as well. Great cars!!

BTW I can't imagine that anyone would creat a car just because of a CARTOON!!! Nissan manufactured these things for a short period of time. (JDM though) So there is more to interest in them that a bunch of cartoon watching kids. I am 50 years old and don't watch cartoons.

[elevator]

http://members.iinet.net.au/~sayers/biscuits/wb1.jpg

...a good reason to go Sileighty! :)

[blog]

Originally posted by gladhatter
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sayers/biscuits/wb1.jpg

jesus christ!!! what flares are those???

[elevator]

Who knows, but it is a sweetie! Kind of GTResque!