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newborn240
06-20-2008, 10:57 PM
ok i did search. but didnt find any threads. so can anyone tell me how to take the subframe off? if possible include some pics. im gona paint mine.
about the adjustable steering wheel. i took my dashboard off today and you know how you have to take the handle of the adjustable steering wheel. well i put it back on(didnt finish it i forgot how) so i can still drive my car even tho i dont hav a dashboard. so yeah i cant take the small bolt off. theres only two bolts. big one and small one, i think the small one is lose thread cuz i cant take it off. any ideas how i should take it off?

projectRDM
06-21-2008, 08:34 AM
You do not need to remove the tilt handle to remove the steering wheel. If that's even what you mean, your description sucks.

As for the subframe, buy an FSM or lay under the car and look at it, it's not brain surgery. Drop the exhaust, remove the shocks and calipers, unbolt driveshaft, then drop it.

g6civcx
06-21-2008, 08:49 AM
about the adjustable steering wheel. i took my dashboard off today and you know how you have to take the handle of the adjustable steering wheel. well i put it back on(didnt finish it i forgot how) so i can still drive my car even tho i dont hav a dashboard. so yeah i cant take the small bolt off. theres only two bolts. big one and small one, i think the small one is lose thread cuz i cant take it off. any ideas how i should take it off?

I have no idea what the hell is going on. Can you take a pix?

timster
06-21-2008, 09:28 AM
You do not need to remove the tilt handle to remove the steering wheel. If that's even what you mean, your description sucks.

As for the subframe, buy an FSM or lay under the car and look at it, it's not brain surgery. Drop the exhaust, remove the shocks and calipers, unbolt driveshaft, then drop it.

Judging by how his question was phrased you should be a wee bit more specific. Don't drop the subframe. Slowly lower the subframe. Make sure you're not under the subframe while lowering.

sac
06-21-2008, 09:40 AM
You do not need to remove the tilt handle to remove the steering wheel. If that's even what you mean, your description sucks.

As for the subframe, buy an FSM or lay under the car and look at it, it's not brain surgery. Drop the exhaust, remove the shocks and calipers, unbolt driveshaft, then drop it.

i am assuming you are talking about the front subframe, but you Failed to specify. It is really not that complicated. If you still have your steel oil pan you can put a floor jack under it, put a piece of wood or cardboard inbetween the jack and the pan. Then raise the jack till it touches the pan. There are 2 tension rods, the sway bar/links, both tie rod ends, the front struts, and the lower bj. If you remove all of those, then i believe there is just the 4 (maybe 6) bolts that connect the subframe to car-body.

however, if you cant tell by laying down under the car and looking at shit, then you might need to have a more experienced person show ya so you dont hurt yourself.

g6civcx
06-21-2008, 09:54 AM
If you still have your steel oil pan you can put a floor jack under it, put a piece of wood or cardboard inbetween the jack and the pan. Then raise the jack till it touches the pan.

Why pan and noit bellhousing?

newborn240
06-21-2008, 10:36 AM
i was gona take pics but our camera was low bat. and its got different batteries so i cant just change it i had to charge it. im takin sum pics today if i cant get that damn bolt out. and i need to take the adjustable steering wheel handle to be able to take my dashboard cuz im putting a new one on there tomorrow.

projectRDM
06-21-2008, 03:12 PM
i am assuming you are talking about the front subframe, but you Failed to specify. It is really not that complicated. If you still have your steel oil pan you can put a floor jack under it, put a piece of wood or cardboard inbetween the jack and the pan. Then raise the jack till it touches the pan. There are 2 tension rods, the sway bar/links, both tie rod ends, the front struts, and the lca. If you remove all of those, then i believe there is just the 4 (maybe 6) bolts that connect the subframe to car-body.

however, if you cant tell by laying down under the car and looking at shit, then you might need to have a more experienced person show ya so you dont hurt yourself.

There's no such thing as a front subframe. It's called a crossmember. And your method for removing the crossmember is all wrong.

1) Jack under bellhousing
2) Remove steering rack brackets
3) Unbolt LCAs
4) Unbolt engine mounts
5) Drop crossmember

Nothing else needs to be touched. Sounds like you need to go back out and lay under the car a little too.

nieko
06-22-2008, 03:00 AM
this whole thread is fail... and hopefully no one reads the description of how to take the "front subframe" or hopefully they read projectRDM's post after that. i reallly dnt even know what the op is asking about the steering wheel either, post pics so we could help you out dude

sac
06-24-2008, 09:34 PM
There's no such thing as a front subframe. It's called a crossmember. And your method for removing the crossmember is all wrong.

1) Jack under bellhousing
2) Remove steering rack brackets
3) Unbolt LCAs
4) Unbolt engine mounts
5) Drop crossmember

Nothing else needs to be touched. Sounds like you need to go back out and lay under the car a little too.


Sub frame: A partial frame (http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/FR.HTM#Frame) that is sometimes bolted to the chassis (http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/CH.HTM#Chassis) of unit-body cars. It can be used to support the engine, transmission (http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/TR.HTM#Transmission) and suspension (http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/SU.HTM#Suspension) instead of having these components (http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/CO.HTM#Components) directly connected to the main body structure. This more expensive design generally results in better road isolation and less harshness.
http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/SU.HTM
Cross member : A brace or strut which provides structural stability for the sides of a frame -- often in the shape of an "X". http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/CR.HTM

sounds like its a front subframe to me..

You are right. Would be a better idea to jack under the belhousing. O and MY bad on not saying he needed to pull the engine mounts. Kinda spaced it. Plus, ya cant tell someone how to do everything on their car. There is some things they just have to figure out on their own.. ;)