fit vs hybrid

[MrBrightSide]

With the increasing prices of gas these days, I've just sold my 07 300c a few days ago. Now I am having a hard time whether I should opt for a brand new Honda Fit S 5spd or a used Toyota Prius as a DD. I've been reading a few reviews about the hybrids and noticed a few costly maintenance down the line. Ive already test drove both cars; both have their pros and cons. Any word of advice on the two?

[DreamN]

hybrids get carpool lane, but you face looking a everywhere you go. at least with the fit the girls will be like "awwww" and think you're sensitive and trendy :keke:

[azndoc]

hybrids get carpool lane, but you face looking a everywhere you go. at least with the fit the girls will be like "awwww" and think you're sensitive and trendy :keke:

And the guys will think that your gaf.

And kick your ass.

But hey, maybe you'll get sympathy from the girls. Or they'll run away with the guy that beat you up since they realized that your a pussy.

OP I think you should get a hybrid.

[BustedS13]

get a real car

and a bike.

then at least you won't have purchased something retarded

[Andrew Bohan]

2010 prius is supposed to get 80mpg.
should be available middle of next year?

in the meantime get a bike

or a crx

[kensreliableb18b]

2010 prius is supposed to get 80mpg.
should be available middle of next year?

in the meantime get a bike

or a crx

are you serious??? oh shit, time to buy another car. lol

[Antihero983]

hybrids are expensive to maintain when theyre out of warranty. i say that having worked at toyota.

get the fit, swap in a N/A K20 with ITB's and call it a day.

[MrBrightSide]

^^ yeah ive been looking at the cbr600s but dont have too much experience riding :ugh: That's one of the issues that's holding me back with a bike...

[Andrew Bohan]

i had 5 minutes of experience when i bought my bike last spring.

3200 miles and safe so far.

[DreamN]

MrBrightSide, dude just take the CHP course. As soon as I get some extra cash I'll be buying a bike. The hybrid or trendy little small cars just aren't for me.

[BustedS13]

80mpg in the new prius? we're finally getting somewhere. i'd swerve that. i'd have to get a sticker for the back window though. somthing along the lines of "i bought it for the gas mileage, not because i'm a douchey hippie".

[flip3d]

I vote for the Fit

[Howard92884]

Get a 95-98 200sx ,get one with a 1.6L motor. They get around 35 mpg and you can pick them up for cheap and cheap to maintain.

[touge monster]

Fit over prius.

[TheTimanator]

No love for the Yaris? 40 mpg hwy.
or a 92-95 Honda Civic VX. 50 mpg hwy.

I think I will be looking for a Civic VX soon.

[qwikspool]

i think prius got more room than the fit. (correct me if im wrong)
i would go for the prius.

[kdashy]

Gotta love the Prius' milage.

But a Fit is cheaper to get and maintain.

[Andrew Bohan]

and you can put stickers on em
http://www.laboratory17.com/semafit.jpg

[an_orange_s2k]

get the fit, swap in a N/A K20 with ITB's and call it a day.
yep. the seats in the fit can also be pushed all the way back for sexy time.....i mean leg room

[ROUGE180]

Some of my friends are buying the Smart car. I see those things on the hwy haulin' ass lol. At this point with how gas is I'm either about to get a bike or get something small like you all are talking about (crx, civic, 323 anything over 30mpg).

[infinitexsound]

fit.......... sounds better then a prius... the prius looks retarted

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

fit hands down. the prius is gay, but atleast in the fit it can be done semi sporty!

[drift freaq]

Well I am buying my friends 2001 Civic EX for a deal then reselling it and getting a 99-2002 G20. Nice a luxurious and decent mileage with a SR20 to boot :D.

[hassanbakar123]

FIT
message...........

[twotoes]

fit ftw, if down the road u actually do decide to mod your dd there are plenty of swaps available for that lil thing.

[FRpilot]

2010 prius is supposed to get 80mpg.
should be available middle of next year?


"For 2009, Honda has stretched the Fit's wheelbase by 2 inches and moved the A-pillars forward by 5 inches, adding to the car's interior space."

"The 2009 Honda Fit will be more than 2 inches longer and three-quarters of an inch wider than the original"

i may be in the market for a beater car too and have been researching. the
2009 fit is going to be redesigned too. its kind of uglier, but a little roomier.




"Fit that the automaker hopes will even better suit the American automotive tastes because it is longer, wider and more powerful."

i like the more interior room part, but being more powerful, means less mpg, which is one of reasons for me to buy it.


i like the yaris too, but too bad it didnt come in 5dr form.

my points into buying a beater are:
*relatively new w/ little to minor maintenance
*mpg, mpg, mpg (30+ is ideal)
*large rear interior for hauling shit (i have a van, but it's annoying to take out the seats everytime i have to pick up something and it gets less than 20mpg)


the fit is ideal b/c of the "magic seats" system and gets high mpg. the seats fold down and i won't have to get someone to help me take them out and put them in like I do with my van. the downside is that it's not big enough to put a hood in, but how often do i pick those up? it can easily fit some seats, bumpers, or other large items.

the current fit looks ok too, but next year's model will be a bit bigger which is a plus. next year model looks a bit uglier though, but i think i wouldn't mind the trade off for being a bit bigger inside. (ill be able to manuver things easier) but if it gets crappier gas mileage, i would have to side with the current generation fit.

[BustedS13]

Some of my friends are buying the Smart car.

some of your friends are sucking each others' dicks and not telling you about it.

[muddafakka]

Fuck Prius

Get Fit

[VROOOM]

get a Fit. i just cant stand the Prius.

[Andrew Bohan]

if you do get a prius, please realize that you are allowed to drive in regular lanes. i think most prius drivers don't know that.
but you decide to drive in the carpool lane, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go 85+

[dued]

fit is GO!


:rant::coold::cool::zzz::naughtyd::bowdown::wiggle ::sadwavey::p

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

I've seen an 04 xb get 40+ mpg when driven without pushing it. It's a bigger car and has PLENTY of room inside with a 1.5l in it. If I were too look at a gas saver but don't want to sacrifice room then get a used xB. If you don't care about room then go for the fit. Another car is the smart car but is very very very tiny but is, pretty much, the flavor of the year for cars.
If it JUST comes down to the 2 cars then go with the Fit. You could always get a intake and exhaust and get better milage with those two mods anyways. Then, down the line, save up some cash and put in a k20 or turbo. The turbo would actually get better gas mileage but the k20 is the sex.

[RiversideS13]

i think fit is a better choice because it is more fun to drive and easier to resell. hybrid repair cost is a big concern for most used car buyers. But pyrius is comfortable to drive long distance .... so maybe you can consider about to get a civic to compromise in between if you drive a lot. just my 2cents

[ronmcdon]

I think a good compromise is the civic hybrid. you can essentially swap in the civic si suspension, and a have a fairly fun car to drive, while still being fuel efficient. also looks a lot better than the prius too. mpg is slightly lower, but I think it's more fun to drive.

The fit is a great choice too. I was about to get one myself a few months ago (sport model, 5spd, red), but fell for the civic si sedan instead. I get around 24mpg combined, but premium fuel only. Last fill-up was almost $50 :P

[ronmcdon]

hybrids get carpool lane, but you face looking a everywhere you go. at least with the fit the girls will be like "awwww" and think you're sensitive and trendy :keke:

I don't think you can get the carpool sticker any longer, at least for new hybrids out in socal. someone should start forging those stickers.

[MrBrightSide]

thanks for all the input. I know its only been a few hours but with your comments I feel more comfortable going with the fit. I still have a few weeks untill I make the next purchase, but really leaning towards the cbr :naughtyd: There was a segment on the news today in regards of the increasing sales of motorcycles, theyve mentioned the CHP course for newbies and im really syked about that if I take this route..

[DreamN]

go for a bike. :)

[just1pepsi]

get a bike, and take the course. If you buy one or the other, I vote for the fit, hybrids are more expensive down the line.

[Antihero983]

thanks for all the input.

that's what she said! hey! hahahahahahah

[stiizy]

hybrids are expensive to maintain when theyre out of warranty. i say that having worked at toyota.

get the fit, swap in a N/A K20 with ITB's and call it a day.

ditto.......................

[WanganRunner]

A Prius only gets like 48mpg city/45mpg highway.

The Fit is almost as good but it's cheaper, sportier, and more practical. Definitely get a Fit, they're fantastic cars.


Personally, I'm waiting to see if the new Fiat 500 will get released in the US. if not, I'll probably go for an 09+ Fit.

[SHIFT_*grind*]

No love for the Yaris? 40 mpg hwy.
or a 92-95 Honda Civic VX. 50 mpg hwy.

Seriously, how the fuck is it that all these old compact cars see 40+ mpg, while all the brand new cars - that supposedly should have better engineering - are struggling to get 40? I see commercials for the new Corolla, 35 MPG HIGHWAY!!!!!!!! Uhh. My '88 Celica saw 40 on the daily, you must be doing something wrong.

I would say it's probably because everything's heavier nowadays, but...

Some of my friends are buying the Smart car.

Fuck those things. 2 seats with 4 wheels attached, how much could it POSSIBLY weigh? Yet they only see ~40mpg (41 I think, to be exact). And how much could it possibly COST? 2 seats with 4 wheels and a lawnmower engine is cheap, right?

$15 GRAND?

Oh.

[WanganRunner]

I would say it's probably because everything's heavier nowadays, but...

Yep, it's all weight.

Older cars didn't have six airbags or as much noise dampening or a million other things that porky new cars have.


Additionally, for people really worried about conservation/enviro impact as well as the financial cost of fuel economy, it's important to note that an EG VX is a much more responsible choice than a Prius.

Yes they get the same mileage, but how much energy/materials are depleted and how many carbons are emitted in trying to BUILD one new Prius? A shit-ton. Compared to NONE for a used car that's already been on the road for 10 years.

Lightweight old cars rule.

[just1pepsi]

Yeah, there are alot of late 80's - mid 90's cars that get high 30's into 40's mpg - I think the reason is that in order for cars to meet "US emission standards" they get worse gas mileage. also all the junk that is in new cars.

[VROOOM]

finding a VX civic may be kinda hard. those were the most popular for swaps.

[blackrms13]

my family has a 05 prius, we have also went to look at the Honda Fit
both car cool cars, BUT

Prius has a much better ride for a DD, way better MPG, its bigger than the Fit, you can comfortably sit 5 people, its a hatch, meaning you can put quite alot of stuff in the back, and most importantly ~06 Prius usually has the carpool sticker! driving by urself in the carpool lane is awesome :D
so far, there hasnt been any problem with the car
oh and did i mention 500 miles to a tank :mrmeph:

Fit's suspension wise is alot stiffer, more like my s13 with coils...but maybe not that bad, but its very small car, rear barely have any room, engine noise is alot "louder" compared to the Prius, only one thing I remember about the Fit which was fun was the paddle shift thing on the auto 5 speed

[The ROMAN]

The Yaris might be ok if you throw some Tiens on it. I heard the suspension is way too soft and feels unstable on highways. Also, since they aren't selling, you could supposedly get a huge discount on them.

[240trainee]

This is why I got a bike

CJ360T GO!!

[sean350z]

I just bought a Black Pearl '08 Fit Sport 5 speed last week and love it so far.

Here's more inspiration

http://lh4.ggpht.com/Sean350z/SE68KlznqdI/AAAAAAAAAuQ/IUw5jY51Emk/s800/17.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/Sean350z/SE68K25BEOI/AAAAAAAAAuY/eplhUCttM6g/s800/16-2.jpg

[SimpleSexy180]

uhh yeah fits are dope.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/rawpower82/ymtsan_l.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/rawpower82/2005_04_0820063b1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/ivanperfetto/Modcom_07.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/rawpower82/dumped.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/rawpower82/070110201461.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/rawpower82/noblesse_fit_51.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/rawpower82/jazz_g_17.jpg

[blackrms13]

^ those pics reminds me of a mini honda odyssey...haha

[WanganRunner]

I want a Honda Stream, but I don't think it'll ever get released here.

[CodyW]

i got an 08 5-speed fit sport for a daily last year and love it. looks way better than a prius (to me), actually handles quite well and is fairly amusing to drive, holds tons of stuff, and i average 35-38 mpg.

[BustedS13]

well, those are the gayest pictures i've ever seen.

[The ROMAN]

No Yaris? It's lighter.

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/744/744632/sema-2006-part-1-20061107052106413.jpg

[ronmcdon]

yaris is lighter, but its not quite as fun to drive as the Fit. I test drove one last year, and really wasn't too impressed. The suspension feel quite a bit softer, and the steering is very light. Also, some of the earlier 5spd base models didn't even have a tach. The Fit's a lot more fun to drive, despite the larger dimensions and added weight.

[Dutchmalmiss]

+1 for the fit. Seats are easy to configure and mess around with. Peppy little motor, even has v-tec haha. The chassis feels solid, too. Also, if you wanna wait for next year's redesign, you'll get the same mpg with a power increase to 120hp.

http://automobiles.honda.com/2009-fit/?ef_id=1097:3:s_ebf1931faa8cb5da35b42afe5cbced91_1 117912542:p-12rENIYX0AABFfhGAAAAAK:20080610224325

[kaotic]

http://hondatyper.org/ep3.JPG
EP3 ftw!
Ive got one, and its a great car..

But on topic... id get a Fit..
tint and some rims.. get'r'done..

[Yuri]

I'd say buy neither.
Get a bike.
Or if you're going to get a car, get something cheap that you can make fun to drive, and won't regret owning if gas prices go down again.

The Fit is the new bandwagon, and if you bought a Prius, you would have to contend with being labeled a tool, along with owning a very unecological friendly car if you're into that sort of thing.

But yeah, here's my suggestions. I say you hold off on a new car for a bit until the economy stabilizes a bit, and in the meantime enjoy not having a car payment.

Pick up one of the following for cheap, and have fun until you decide to buy something nice again.

Volkswagen GTi mkII
Honda CRX
Isuzu Impulse with Lotus handling
BMW E30 318is
Or something along these lines.

Here's what I bought for $1500.
Almost mint condition, 2 owner AE86 SR5 5-speed.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x158/DKapt/Yuri%20projects/AE86/100_0945.jpg

[StaticX27]

I just bought a Versa. I checked out all of the gas box cars like the Yaris, Fit, Versa, Mazda 3, etc... Personally I liked the Versa the best, had the most toys available for the same gas efficiency. Personally, I'm in love with it, and the comfort it has. Try it out :D

[Baka Sama]

No love for the Yaris? 40 mpg hwy.
or a 92-95 Honda Civic VX. 50 mpg hwy.

I think I will be looking for a Civic VX soon.

Yep, Im selling my 2000 cavalier that gets 35mpg and buying a VX civic for everyday driving. 50mpg is too good to pass up for a 3k car. Just gotta find one that hasnt been riced out to hell.

GM's volt and Nissans Cube are also coming out soon thats all electric.

Also you guys are gay talking about doing engine swaps on a fit. The car is built to be an econo box. This is not honda tech, please stop the madness. Anyone who wastes 1,000s on bodykits and engine swaps for a fit should be banned from zilvia.

[KiDyNomiTe]

I have an 08 Fit.

I love every bit of it, it was 15K.

Gas - It was rated something like 37/34, I forget the exact. On average city and hwy i got 37mpg with spirited driving.
Now in the past 4 tanks and because gas keeps going up I have been driving normally and staying at 65-70 on hwy and it gets 39-40mpg. Now if I really push it and coast a lot I got 42 on a tank, and this included one trip to downtown chicago and a lot of stop and go, I think I can push 43-44 on it.
The Prius actually gets about the same, it gets under 40 if you never get on the hwy and the engine is running more than it is on electricity.

Space - I have a coworker who has a Prius and space wise the Fit is not that far from it. The rear of a Fit is actually quite spacious even for someone with long legs. The head room is deceiving spacious like the xB, its not great for 5 people but 5 grown people can fit, 4 is perfect. And the trunk space is there to carry all 4 peoples stuff.
Also the magic seats are awesome, fold them down and you can carry 4 wheels and a jack easily (without stacking). Fold them up and you can carry a bike.

Ride - First off get manual, especially if you are concerned about gas so much easier to control your mileage. The car rides pretty well stock, its a little tail happy and the suspension is soft but its comfortable on a long ride. Only suggestion is buy the JDM armrest (I need to do that still). It has 5 cupholders a decent sound system (Sport). I added a Pioneer Avic Z2 and hacked it so it makes for the best long trip ride.

On top of all that it looks awesome, the prius is hideous, and I cant stand the fact that the monitor just shows the engines status and controls audio. I want navi and dvd in my daily not to see a flow of power...

I also got STANCE coilovers for it and they are great, rides better than stock, its still soft and smooth but looks better.

The only thing I hate about it, is its a Honda. Hondas are fun to mod (hate them or not), and there is so much shit I could buy. However, I am trying to restrain myself and only buy comfort things. Although I am considering an intake to see if I can get better mileage.

[lflkajfj12123]

haha i can't believe i almost forgot about this

SMUG

http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/images/south%20park.jpg

[VROOOM]

Yep, Im selling my 2000 cavalier that gets 35mpg and buying a VX civic for everyday driving. 50mpg is too good to pass up for a 3k car. Just gotta find one that hasnt been riced out to hell.

GM's volt and Nissans Cube are also coming out soon thats all electric.

Also you guys are gay talking about doing engine swaps on a fit. The car is built to be an econo box. This is not honda tech, please stop the madness. Anyone who wastes 1,000s on bodykits and engine swaps for a fit should be banned from zilvia.

its just as bad as people spending 20k on a 3,000 dollar s13.

[Baka Sama]

The fit was built to be a fuel efficient car with good cargo space. Thats all it was built for.

The s13 on the other hand was built to be a cheap sporty car. Thus the rwd, lack of a real back seat, sporty look, and average mpg. I wouldnt justify spending 20k on a s13 but I can understand people turning an entry sports car into a real sports car.

I cant however understand people buying a fit to save on gas and spending all that money just to make it handle a little better and have a little more hp. how many people who have fits as a dd ever take them to the track? It doesnt make sense to by coilovers to stiffin up a dd. or a bodykit and wheels to make the car look fast if its only a fwd dd.

Thats my way of thinking anyhow. Everyone is different though, and thats why there is a honda tech.

[VROOOM]

so in your world, if its not a "sporty car" it shouldnt be modded?? honda's are what brought this scene to what it is. if there was no honda scene there would be no 240 scene.

[muddafakka]

Building up a Fit for power is pretty retarded because it negates its original intended purpose as an economy car. I don't think there's anything wrong with getting new wheels, springs or coilovers, etc. though. Just gotta know your limit with it and not forget what you bought it for in the first place.

[Baka Sama]

I agree with you somewhat muddafakka (lol funny sn). But coilovers? Wouldnt you want your fit to be a comfy ride?

honda's are what brought this scene to what it is. if there was no honda scene there would be no 240 scene.

haha. Honda did not create the passion people have for fast cars. That has always been around. People were modding Fc's and 300zx's way before people got crazy with civics.

So yes in my world if its not a worthy platform to build a sports car it shouldnt be modded. which is the reason i have owned 2 civics, an eclipse, and a cavalier and never bought more than a new battery and windshield wipers for them. But like I said. Its good that not everyone is like me. Or else I wouldnt be able to make fun of the 08 yaris with full bodykit and 18' fns.

[RiversideS13]

Yep, Im selling my 2000 cavalier that gets 35mpg and buying a VX civic for everyday driving. 50mpg is too good to pass up for a 3k car. Just gotta find one that hasnt been riced out to hell.

GM's volt and Nissans Cube are also coming out soon thats all electric.

Also you guys are gay talking about doing engine swaps on a fit. The car is built to be an econo box. This is not honda tech, please stop the madness. Anyone who wastes 1,000s on bodykits and engine swaps for a fit should be banned from zilvia.

have you driven VX in person? i had a 93 EG6 CX before as DD and i must told you it was very painful to drive. i sold it in a month. There is a reason it is fuel efficient - light (means lot of noise, uncomfortable to drive, get tire easily) and weak motor (i pretty much have to full throttle all the time to catch up the traffic flow). it was an old car and did not have much sophisticate technology integrated in. 0-60 maybe can be done in 17 seconds

[TheTimanator]

^^^ it's true. They're retarded slow. I think the VX has 92hp...something like that.

But lately I've been driving like a grandma anyways. I never get above 2200 rpm 1st - 3 rd gear, 2500 rpm 4th and then 3000 rpm in 5th which is around 65ish. I swear if I can't get my 2.5rs over 30 mpg soon I'm gonna sell it. It's rated for 28mpg and I have been getting 25-26 mpg average.

[Baka Sama]

Ive owned a 1990 civic hatch and a 4 door 1992 civic dx i believe. The civic was an average car as far as comfort. I guess my expectations are just low on a daily driver. My old house was on a hill and it was a pita getting in and out a s13. The civic was better because of the lighter doors. I drive a 5spd 00' cavalier now that feels like it has about 50hp so im sure the civic is about the same.

[carlosncdi]

fit all the way.

[smellslikecurry]

they dont allow stock fits to run autox around here

they flip too easy

[TheTimanator]

they dont allow stock fits to run autox around here

they flip too easy

really? never heard that. Are they top heavy or something?

[VROOOM]

haha. Honda did not create the passion people have for fast cars. That has always been around. People were modding Fc's and 300zx's way before people got crazy with civics.



just look at the 240sx aftermarket before the honda craze and after. then tell me what you think. i bought my first 240 in 96 and the only performance parts i could find were intakes and exhausts. no one cared about 240's till after they stopped making them.

[smellslikecurry]

really? never heard that. Are they top heavy or something?

yea a couple of them flippd on stock suspension so only modified suspension fits are allowed to run

[ESmorz]

Are they top heavy or something?

Have you ever seen one? :rofl:

[Baka Sama]

I agree that American companies saw how much money they could make off of kids by selling them honda and eclipse aftermarket parts. And I agree that the "scene" grew because of it and companies started offering more real sport car parts.

However I thought it was dumb to modify a civic for daily driving back in 98' and I still think its a waste 10 years later with a fit. If you like to drag race than by all means go ahead with a civic because its a light car. But if your daily driving a car like the fit you dont need coil overs, turbos, and bodykits to hard park.

[SHIFT_*grind*]

If I owned a Fit I'd probably do a little suspension work and maybe a couple small power mods. It still won't be fast, but I wouldn't care as long as it's fun to drive.

However, I don't understand the pseudo-VIP treatment everyone seems to giving them. It looks like - and is about the same size as - a fucking shoe. Ballers don't drive shoes.

[Icy13]

um, prius doesnt make the 80mpg or whatever that is posted. Oh, and it only come in auto (obviously).

F that and buy the Fit. Cheaper, lighter, better storage, better looks (as much as can be expected).

Also, screw toyota, they replaced the markIV supra with the solara.... they lose :(

[kyoru]

I would get the fit, I could not stand having a prius on my drive way

[KiDyNomiTe]

I cant however understand people buying a fit to save on gas and spending all that money just to make it handle a little better and have a little more hp. how many people who have fits as a dd ever take them to the track? It doesnt make sense to by coilovers to stiffin up a dd. or a bodykit and wheels to make the car look fast if its only a fwd dd.

Thats my way of thinking anyhow. Everyone is different though, and thats why there is a honda tech.

As a car enthusiast I think it is damn near impossible to own a dd that is stock, especially if you have the money. Comfortable to me is my 240 with a/c and a radio, but it has neither so I have the Fit. I put coilovers on mine but not so much to stiffen it but to make it ride better. And I got exactly that, the stance coilovers make the car ride much better and much more comfortable, I was surprised and happier to hit bumps faster...

Power wise I wont do much, although I am tempted, for now it starts with intake, who knows what will be next. If a Honda is done well, the right intake, the right exhaust, etc. It can sound pretty bad ass and be fun. It may not be a 400 hp s13 or rwd but if you have ever driven a nicely built honda its a fun as hell car to drive.

And whats wrong with making your car look good even though its a daily, as long as I dont strip the interior and cage it and make it too low, its still an awesome daily.

[muddafakka]

I agree with you somewhat muddafakka (lol funny sn). But coilovers? Wouldnt you want your fit to be a comfy ride?


That's just a personal preference of mine.

I was merely using it as an example.