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Bobafreak
06-02-2008, 11:53 AM
Didnt know wether to put this in tech talk or here If so mods it needs to be removed feel free to do so. *ahem* Well I got my coilovers last week well i had them for a while just never put them on so now it was sunday after the omgwtfbbq bash (which was cool for those who missed out. Thanks again teddy for throwing such a cool event!), Vrt and friends preloaded the coilovers at 2:30am(yeah were all night owls) in the morning getting ready to install after jacking the car up to find out I didnt have the lock key. The original owner (located in palmdale) had it. Sooo that early cold ass morning came to an end resulting on sunday to go to a shop and have them take them off.

I say this is a checklist of things youll need.

Impact gun
hammer
wrench set
An extra hand if you can get one
A jack with 2 jack stands.
Ipod with some cool music (Buckshot, murs, dilated peoples, with a touch of armin van buuren lol)
est time=hmm depends how quick you are i started at 4 finished around 7

Well about several trips to pepboys i was officially ready to do the install.

One thing Tuan (from aspec) had told me about was the bottom of the camber plate bolts needed to be tighten or else they will fall off and thats a no bueno. Relook over everything before installing make sure all the bolts are tight and etc. Picture below.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00059.jpg

1.Before jacking up the car remove all of your lug nuts. Makes things alot easier. I started with the fronts first.

2.Take off the top shock bolts first! I bold this out because you will see why later. Silly mistake on my behalf cause i didnt look.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00054.jpg

3.Your shocks are bolted with 2 17mm bolts place the jack under the control arm so when you unbolt the 2 17mm bolts it wont go flying down. youll also want to hold the rotor as well due to releasing the bolts once again.
Picture of where i placed the jack.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00055.jpg

Pictures of the of the 2 bolts im talking about.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00056.jpg

Now when it came to putting these on i did run into a little problem the coilovers didnt want to slide into the spindle making it a problem It could be 2 things. The coilovers just need to be tweaked a bit or because my fronts have 180sx brake assembly. Either way these bitches were going on so i took the jack and lifted up the spindel to match the coilover itself and hammered it into the coilover slightly because of its tight fit. Pictures listed showing how it doesent bolt up. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00067.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00070.jpg



They went in with ease after. make sure your pillow mount is facing the right direction(horizontal not sure what horizontal is? look at the picture.) as well. Before bringing it up to the shock towers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00058.jpg


Using the jack this should help you if your muscles arent strong. You dont need to remove the jack to load it up since its already at the bottom. Seeeee easy! Repeat these same steps on the other side. Member AGAIN Take the 3 bolts off the shock tower before taking the bolts off from the bottom shock! Or this will happen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00061.jpg
Notice how the shock is down there and the top remains up there? Yeah not fun. But never fear the cutter is here!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00062.jpg

taaaaaadaaaa! Done!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00066.jpg

Repeat the step once again to reinstall.

Up next were the rears. Take the wheels off. There are three bolts your gonna take off, but AGAIN take the top shock tower bolts located in the trunk off first!!! Place the jack below by the shock. For this step(installing coilovers) this requires a 19mm, 17mm, and i wanna say 18mm ratchet as well. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00078.jpg

Next your going to take off the bolt thats connected to the shock itself at the bottom.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00076.jpg

Then take off the traction rods bolt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00080.jpg

you will need to use your arm power for this one if you have aftermarket rods. Get a extension, size ratchet and a wrench on one side so you can unloosen the bolt.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00081.jpg

Go underneath the ruca picture below.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00082.jpg

From there slightly corner the shock and wiggle it around and itll come out with the 3 bolts i told you to take off below freeing it with ease.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00083.jpg

Then take your new coilover slide it through
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00084.jpg

Using the same process to bring up the new shock using the jack do this as well you may need to twist the plate to evenly match the coilover top bolts to the shock tower. after that repeat the same steps for the right and your done!

Note i wouldn't adjust the dampening yet till about 100 miles to break in the coilovers. Again make sure you tighten all the bolts double check all your work and you should be good to go. But not me my next thing was doing this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00086.jpg

yes! Its already installed and ill write a review on that as well Basically i didn't finish my car till 1:26 in the morning. After setting the horn off for a solid 10 seconds knowing i woke up my kids and neighbors i snuck into the house and turned off the lights leaving tools and all outside. G/f goes what the fuck was that? I responded Some guy driving down the street with a bull horn out the window......yeah i know. lol.

Ill write a review later once i tested it out some more i notice some things and whatnot but we haven't tracked these yet. but i need to go pick up my new wheels first. lol. Im sure ill get questions so send me your pms and ill try to help.

Ohh the before and after photos...
Before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/GEDC0099.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/GEDC0098.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00072.jpg

Now. yea only one photo at the moment. give me a break i was tired bitches! lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00088.jpg

Thanks again to tuan and the squidd for the preloading.

stiizy
06-02-2008, 12:08 PM
Nice as always boba!!

BoostedCoupe
06-02-2008, 12:23 PM
nice i cant wait for the review. Does anyone know if they make these for a s14 or not? also you do not have to remove the traction bars if you dont want to. i didnt remove mine when i installed my coils. it just takes more time getting the shocks out with them still on. Anyways + rep to you.

projekt_s13
06-02-2008, 12:32 PM
Why did you unbolt the extra stuff in the rear? I have installed coilovers many times and i have never had to bolt those.

loserfrancis
06-02-2008, 12:51 PM
hey cg how come the traction rod had to be disconnected?

Bobafreak
06-02-2008, 01:22 PM
I removed the other stuff to take the shock out. It seemed easier that way. i believe it was the stock shock in my way and it was hitting one of the rods so i did that. Time consuming hmm maybe by hand but i had a ratchet gun. >_<

HS13KLS
06-02-2008, 01:28 PM
im curious to see how they ride..they are so damn cheap

da1ndonly
06-02-2008, 01:42 PM
+1 i was just about to pm you about the ones thatt i got off of you for mine but question answered thanks.

Tuan234
06-02-2008, 01:50 PM
ahhh yeee boiii. lookin good now.

ps: no problem on the pre load. also those allen bolts you might want to use lock tight, so they wont find a way to come out.

Bobafreak
06-02-2008, 02:30 PM
fo sho. wheels are next though wooooooooooo! Its like a birthday today.

240srhatch
06-02-2008, 02:35 PM
u dont got any more godspeeds do you?? my paypal was having a lil problem but its straight now.. let me know when you can get me a set

ZenkiKid
06-02-2008, 02:36 PM
yeah man tell us how they ride.

MikeisNissan
06-02-2008, 02:38 PM
u dont got any more godspeeds do you?? my paypal was having a lil problem but its straight now.. let me know when you can get me a set

Jorge you can buy em off ebay for dirt cheap.

240srhatch
06-02-2008, 02:40 PM
this guy sells them for cheaper.. he was selling them for $525 plus shipping

da1ndonly
06-02-2008, 02:55 PM
ebay price is about $600 + $70 shipping
Bobafreak $525 + $70
bought some off him fast shipment from him

DUFFM4N
06-02-2008, 03:32 PM
good shit son

!Zar!
06-02-2008, 07:26 PM
Woah

Woah.

Woah.

Bro. Wtf are you disassembling the WHOLE shock? There is no need.

And WTF are you cutting shit?!

Woah.

sergey911
06-02-2008, 08:35 PM
hey bobafreak, I got the same coilovers and havent put them on yet. you say it takes 100 miles to break them in and not to adjust the damping. which way do I turn it to set it back to normal Left or Right???

!Zar!
06-02-2008, 10:04 PM
Normally people set the coils on full soft and roll around for a handful of miles.

Screw it all the way in, "full stiff". Then count out however many turns adjustable your coils are; ie 16 out if they are 16 way, 32 out if they are 32 way adjustable and ect.

sergey911
06-03-2008, 12:58 AM
lol ya screw it, thanks for the write up tho bobafreak

uthemofo
06-03-2008, 01:12 AM
yea....you fucked up, haha taking off HELLA unneeded shit, and cutting, hmmm think twice before doing that again. hahah live and learn i guess.

foreverdark
06-03-2008, 01:43 AM
So far I have had mine installed for about a week. I actully like how they ride. They're are pretty stiff and drop alot which i haven't done yet cause I need to roll my fenders. But so far good stuff. I'll be drifting with them at Balcony this Saturday and will let you guys know how they hold up.

Neejay
06-03-2008, 09:26 AM
lol @ sneeking to install stuff.

subscribed. lol

KA24DESOneThree
06-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Waiting on a review for these coilovers on small, skinny all-seasons by a driver whose car had blown stock-looking suspension on it previously.

We will all gain greatly from a review. My God, I can't even IMAGINE the change!

Neejay
06-04-2008, 02:46 PM
Waiting on a review for these coilovers on small, skinny all-seasons by a driver whose car had blown stock-looking suspension on it previously.

We will all gain greatly from a review. My God, I can't even IMAGINE the change!
LOOOOOOOOL...oh wow.

ZX88
06-04-2008, 02:52 PM
so cheap im optimistic for them but i doubt they last very long with moderate track use. Id definitiy rock these on a daily though.

Bobafreak
06-04-2008, 02:53 PM
Waiting on a review for these coilovers on small, skinny all-seasons by a driver whose car had blown stock-looking suspension on it previously.

We will all gain greatly from a review. My God, I can't even IMAGINE the change!

the fuck. and who the fuck are you? ohhh no one.....thats right. Its a review/write up btw shocks werent blown. wow people these days make a write up you get negativity as if they contributed something. GTFO chump. yea guys im rockin all seasons......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00100.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/3rd%20time%20is%20a%20charm/IMG00101-1.jpg

wow did it get hot in here....

ZX88
06-04-2008, 03:05 PM
:naughty: hells yeah^

luftrofl
06-04-2008, 03:09 PM
the fuck. and who the fuck are you? ohhh no one.....thats right. Its a review btw shocks werent blown. wow people these days make a write up you get negativity as if they contributed something. GTFO. yea guys im rockin all seasons.....

wow did it get hot in here....

Chill, seriously.

I think that KA24DESOneThree has a valid point. The OP said that a review would be posted. As is often the case, the new coilovers may be compared to what was previously on the car- stock, probably worn shocks with worn upper mounts. That really doesn't seem like a good way to review a product to me.

On the other hand, I could be wrong. The OP could go take the new stuff to a shock dyno, then to the track, and report on wear and tear.:fruit:

los_inc
06-04-2008, 03:10 PM
you sexy beast! -los

Bobafreak
06-04-2008, 03:16 PM
I understand how his previous post on threads are always like this. Thats why i fired back at his ass. There was no need for sarcasm and his remark especially when he has no idea wtf hes talking about. Anyway i will be comparing these with the max coils seeing how ill have these for about 8 months luft you are correct on the matter of what im doing. Thank you.

midnightouge
06-04-2008, 03:36 PM
Just wondering, is that the lowest they went?

clark
06-04-2008, 03:49 PM
lol i honestly can't believe there is hating and/or negativity in this thread.

you look like you had a fun time installing them and you took the time to take pictures and share the install caveats with us. and additionally, you will be posting your thoughts on the godspeed coil overs, which have been speculated over for about a year to my knowledge.

props to you

Bobafreak
06-04-2008, 03:56 PM
seriously i did have fun no kids around ,no girl bitchin,all electric tools(no hard work), drinking, listening to music... I was just sharing. Everyone always said oh i got them installed and ill tell you about it but nothing ever popped up. It takes time writing and putting pictures up but ehh i did it and im coastin.I dont care anymore hate it or love it. You cant please everyone one. *mocks david chappell in a skit* "one love" >_<

midnight-Hell no thats not even close to how low they will go. Youll see how low when i get those spacers and shiz for my fronts. Need squiddy to roll my shit. Wooo!

Neejay
06-04-2008, 04:06 PM
Yeah, thanks for at least taking the time to do this.

I mean, you didn't claim it to be a "professional, final deciding review/comparison".

ZilviaKid
06-04-2008, 07:03 PM
YAY i love write ups made for idiots like myself! +1

AnarchX
06-04-2008, 07:10 PM
Good write up man. Review soon please, as I was thinking of coppin' a set of these in the near future. More for looks than performance, but good to know all aspects of the product. +1

KA24DESOneThree
06-04-2008, 07:49 PM
I didn't knock the writeup, I knocked the parts.

Good writeup, especially since I can't really complain because I've never written one, but the products you installed are junk.

MikeisNissan
06-04-2008, 07:51 PM
^Why do you care so much?

g-via
06-04-2008, 08:01 PM
^Why do you care so much?

because it's the internet and everyone's opinion is oh,oh,oh, so valid.

good write-up OP, anyone who takes the time to do one of these for others is :bigok:

I don't have those parts, nor do I think I would install them on my car, but you probably helped someone out

1989rps13
06-04-2008, 08:04 PM
I didn't knock the writeup, I knocked the parts.

Good writeup, especially since I can't really complain because I've never written one, but the products you installed are junk.


quit being a dick man...

great post bobafreak and thakns for taking your time on posting pics and doing the whole write up

MikeisNissan
06-04-2008, 08:29 PM
Yeah thanks for your time OP Bobafreak.

sergey911
06-04-2008, 08:55 PM
who cares what people say, they ride good and get the job done, and they go pretty low.
My friends car. camera phone picture (he could still lower them even more) but speed bumps suck
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/777/0528081335jj4.jpg

silnismo
06-04-2008, 09:09 PM
I didn't knock the writeup, I knocked the parts.

Good writeup, especially since I can't really complain because I've never written one, but the products you installed are junk.

i dont quite see it that way....

bobafreak is doing us(240sx community) a solid, by actually having the balls to invest time into a possibly cheaper alteritive that could backfire.

sure, most cheap shit = instant fail

But their are exceptions of cheap shit that does the job of an "high quality" product.

EX:
B & M SS: 200$
slightly modified EBAY v2 SS: 75$

Own both, same feel.

AnarchX
06-04-2008, 11:26 PM
^^Word.

Expensive doesn't always mean better. Is a $500 Coach bag better than a $15 unbranded bag? No. You're just paying for the name.

Wow, that was a homo ass example.

Ineedparts
06-04-2008, 11:39 PM
I have been riding on mine for a week now and have no complaints. Deff. a step up from my 6 year old eibach springs. I also had to adjust one of the front coilovers to fit on the spindle. Now I need to roll my fenders, shit rubs when cornering hard.

andmattsayd
06-04-2008, 11:45 PM
WO...
seen the fitment today annd suuch a turn around from the 4X4 ride height
good post CG
good fitment :)

Donesyboy
06-04-2008, 11:51 PM
good shizz i was wondering about those godspeed coilovers
ur not outta the forest yet though....
get ready to get ur ass handed to u in samurai showdown and marvel vs capcom
son

GabeS14
06-05-2008, 12:19 AM
thanks a lot Boba..man...
Everyone has been waiting for you review, or actually at least waiting to know how low they go and how they ride, in comparison to megan, and max, etc...
very ncie, well done..
by the way...
You never responded if you have the S14 coils in stock, I have been waiting for 1 1/2 months now./...lol

KA24DESOneThree
06-05-2008, 08:43 AM
^Why do you care so much?

Because I actually really like the S-chassis.

Because day in and day out, I see shit. I see shit paint, I see shit upholstery jobs, I see shit engine rebuilds, I see shit trans overhauls, I see shit. Unreliable, unremarkable shit.

I strive to do better, to make better. I understand monetary constraints because I live paycheck to paycheck for my Nissan. There is enough information out there for an informed decision, and it pains me that so many people just don't use the information.

98s14inaz
06-05-2008, 08:51 AM
Let the haters hate. Good write up. For what coilovers cost to buy and cost to rebuild I'd really like to see some competition and cheaper prices in that industry. Not all of us are professional drivers so entry level stuff like this is great.

Bobafreak
06-05-2008, 10:30 AM
Thank you all for the comments much appreciated. Again i can careless now how he or others feel. Most of us dont have 8-1200.00 for coilovers once again. Some people are just looking for something thatll be good to drive on the daily, something you can slam and hit a few events on the weekend or just switch it up from your stock equipment for something affordable. Personally i dont see a difference in these from a megan coilover which people will say "ohh is oh so good on the track" when they are coming from the same manufacture as them just without a brand label!

Just because its cheap and from china, Taiwan, Korea, etc doesent mean that shit is gonna break down on you theres plenty of examples on here and other forums to prove it. I think its cool having coilovers for so cheap. It comes to show maybe the auto industry can reduce their prices and provide "better" product at a affordable price. What Anarchx said is right no matter how the analogy was put. A coach purse next to a kmart purse same shit one is just more money. Bootleggers make coach purses look hella identical and sell them for what 80-100 bucks? You yourself wouldnt know the difference.

If you feel you must outshine the rest by purchasing your 8-1200 dollar coilovers, manifolds, intercooler kits, etc, then hey by all means its YOUR MONEY, YOUR RIDE, maybe then you can write a review/install guide as well since it bothers you what we have. Without any facts to back up your statements i dont see your/others argument valid.

To me i feel they are making improvements and people dont have a problem with their sway bars, rucas, tension, radiators or the intercooler kits most people have purchased on the S CHASIS community. So in conclusion let me spend my money how I WANT and give the info. If you disagree make your on thread and give your facts just keep it off here. Thank you.

As far as the shock dyno im in the process of looking for a shop that carrys one if anyone knows a place in socal that has one i will be more than happy to get the results asap.

GabeS14
06-05-2008, 12:36 PM
For the record I use a godspeed radiator also, and im'e pushing over 350hp, and cooling is great!!!
hit boba up if you wann order one, they are a fraction of the price of the koyo and other competitors!
:aw: :bigok:

KA24DESOneThree
06-05-2008, 04:08 PM
Thank you all for the comments much appreciated. Again i can careless now how he or others feel. Most of us dont have 8-1200.00 for coilovers once again. Some people are just looking for something thatll be good to drive on the daily, something you can slam and hit a few events on the weekend or just switch it up from your stock equipment for something affordable. Personally i dont see a difference in these from a megan coilover which people will say "ohh is oh so good on the track" when they are coming from the same manufacture as them just without a brand label!

Just because its cheap and from china, Taiwan, Korea, etc doesent mean that shit is gonna break down on you theres plenty of examples on here and other forums to prove it. I think its cool having coilovers for so cheap. It comes to show maybe the auto industry can reduce their prices and provide "better" product at a affordable price. What Anarchx said is right no matter how the analogy was put. A coach purse next to a kmart purse same shit one is just more money. Bootleggers make coach purses look hella identical and sell them for what 80-100 bucks? You yourself wouldnt know the difference.

If you feel you must outshine the rest by purchasing your 8-1200 dollar coilovers, manifolds, intercooler kits, etc, then hey by all means its YOUR MONEY, YOUR RIDE, maybe then you can write a review/install guide as well since it bothers you what we have. Without any facts to back up your statements i dont see your/others argument valid.

To me i feel they are making improvements and people dont have a problem with their sway bars, rucas, tension, radiators or the intercooler kits most people have purchased on the S CHASIS community. So in conclusion let me spend my money how I WANT and give the info. If you disagree make your on thread and give your facts just keep it off here. Thank you.

As far as the shock dyno im in the process of looking for a shop that carrys one if anyone knows a place in socal that has one i will be more than happy to get the results asap.

It's not about whether or not it works. As long as they stay together and keeps the car off the ground, cheap coilovers work.

Steel rods would work, at least until something gives from fatigue.

This is about people buying the lowest common denominator because they want to slam their cars. It's not even about what's best for a daily. It's about looks, and it's about people being cheap. The valving and spring rates on the cheap coilovers don't mesh well, and lead to an uncomfortable and, frankly, unsafe ride.

No one with any brains needs a shock dyno to tell us that the cheap coilovers are junk. If someone can make a full set of ready-to-bolt-on coilovers for less than the cost of a set of 8610 single-adjustable inserts and still make a profit, it's extremely obvious that the cheap coilovers are junk. You simply cannot manufacture a coilover set for that much and make a profit if you don't cut corners. Tolerances are more generous, valving is generic, and spring rates are rough approximations. This isn't simply my opinion, it is fact. Take 10 sets of cheap coilovers, and put them all on shock dynos and put their springs through a rate tester. I can guarantee you will have one hell of a spread of readings.

Prove me wrong.

Bobafreak
06-05-2008, 04:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/djdaze/beating-a-dead-horse.gif
So yeah boston vs lakers... I feel the lakers today.

1989rps13
06-05-2008, 04:25 PM
[quote=KA24DESOneThree;2088149]Because I actually really like the S-chassis.

Because day in and day out, I see shit. I see shit paint, I see shit upholstery jobs, I see shit engine rebuilds, I see shit trans overhauls, I see shit. Unreliable, unremarkable shit.



dude please look @ the for sale section 90% of the cars for sale of 240's have SHIT PAINT and half assed projects for sale:loco:
your one of the few that actually cares
i mean everybody else does care i assume but dont have the $$$ and thats when godspeed and other cheap alteernatives come up to play

loveskylines
06-05-2008, 04:43 PM
who cares the lower the better! cut the damn springs if you have to (just dont tell ne one:keke:)

undesiredshoe
06-05-2008, 08:11 PM
Yea....um, thats all cool and stuff but bobafreak, you need to get more coils on order so i can send you my money and you can send me some coilovers and we'll both be happy. Hell yeah.

Bobafreak
06-06-2008, 10:30 AM
Im going to try and purchase a small bulk from them if possible the next time around.

sliksta1
06-06-2008, 10:59 AM
i wanna see how low they go for sure when you get those spacers. nice ride bobafreak

SimpleSexy180
06-06-2008, 12:35 PM
who was that guy? hahahaha.

anyway, cant wait to see it dumped with spacers BOBARZ.

s13 @ fullboost
06-06-2008, 02:16 PM
good review +1 =]

ApexDrift
06-06-2008, 02:35 PM
damn wish i didnt give up my spot on the group buy... lol...

speedgod^s13
06-06-2008, 02:42 PM
This thread is crazy. It went from a install/review thread, to I hate seeing shitty looking 240's, with shitty parts. Not all things are made equal, and this is true. It is also true, that you don't always get what you pay for. Yes, big tuner companies rigorously test their products, and have great r & d. Does that mean, that all their products are good? Negative. For example, look at authentic bodykits. A lot of those top brands, fit like shit, and yet they cost an arm and a leg. If you were paying that much, wouldn't you expect the kit to fit like a glove? Being a budget tuner, I know what it's like to live paycheck, by paycheck. I'm always on Zilvia, Craigslist, and my local forum, looking for deals, on good shit. I have found countless. When it comes to expensive items like wheels, and coilovers, deals are harder to come by. So, if boba has struck gold, with these coilovers, so be it. Why be so irate, that he is running certain brand coilover? You aren't going to buy/run it, so why does it bother you so? Not everyone is looking for Zeals, or Cusco's. Majority of peeps, are just looking for something with a good ride, that won't break really fast. What if the Godspeeds, are what the doctor ordered? Everyone is different, and that's what makes us human. My last point is, that you love the S chasis, but you hate on people, with less than up to par, S cars. Which is the stupidest thing, that I have ever heard. 240's, wouldn't be 240's, if every single one, was mint. I mean, that's why we love these cars. We drive the shit out of them, and they may not look the nicest, but we still take care of them, and buy parts. I love 240's regardless. That's my .02

dogg4217
06-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Some of us have families to take care of, house payment, time share payment, 2 car payments, insurance payment, utility payments, cell phone payment, school payments, credit card payment, eating expensive, gas money, other living expenses, beer money. Well at least I have those bills.

that sometimes the cheaper alternative, that still performs decent for what it is used for is the better alternative. If I am going to DD my 240, I probably don't need the best products on the market to with stand abuse from a couple speed bumps.

That is all, good write up.

I have two 240 s13's and if the red one doesn't sell, I am going to keep it and turn one into a nice DD and one into a money pit.

ZenkiKid
06-06-2008, 03:27 PM
sorry if im pointing out the obvious but, I just had a conversation with the people from godspeed racing over at el monte and they said and i quote "The same place where megan gets their stuff" Is where they got their coilovers from. He also added that the valving is the same as megans as well.

Bobafreak
06-06-2008, 03:35 PM
If you read the 1st page i already pointed that out zenki. Its the same manufacture without the brand labled on them. apex, megan=same manufacture, same shit, different labels.

ZenkiKid
06-06-2008, 05:23 PM
If you read the 1st page i already pointed that out zenki. Its the same manufacture without the brand labled on them. apex, megan=same manufacture, same shit, different labels.

how much are you selling these shipped again? I am very interested dude, and what spring rates are they?

Bobafreak
06-06-2008, 05:31 PM
Not selling them i just ordered a few sets and gave it to those cheap. I dont know if im getting anymore yet.

KA24DESOneThree
06-06-2008, 10:12 PM
This thread is crazy. It went from a install/review thread, to I hate seeing shitty looking 240's, with shitty parts. Not all things are made equal, and this is true. It is also true, that you don't always get what you pay for. Yes, big tuner companies rigorously test their products, and have great r & d. Does that mean, that all their products are good? Negative. For example, look at authentic bodykits. A lot of those top brands, fit like shit, and yet they cost an arm and a leg. If you were paying that much, wouldn't you expect the kit to fit like a glove? Being a budget tuner, I know what it's like to live paycheck, by paycheck. I'm always on Zilvia, Craigslist, and my local forum, looking for deals, on good shit. I have found countless. When it comes to expensive items like wheels, and coilovers, deals are harder to come by. So, if boba has struck gold, with these coilovers, so be it. Why be so irate, that he is running certain brand coilover? You aren't going to buy/run it, so why does it bother you so? Not everyone is looking for Zeals, or Cusco's. Majority of peeps, are just looking for something with a good ride, that won't break really fast. What if the Godspeeds, are what the doctor ordered? Everyone is different, and that's what makes us human. My last point is, that you love the S chasis, but you hate on people, with less than up to par, S cars. Which is the stupidest thing, that I have ever heard. 240's, wouldn't be 240's, if every single one, was mint. I mean, that's why we love these cars. We drive the shit out of them, and they may not look the nicest, but we still take care of them, and buy parts. I love 240's regardless. That's my .02

Actually, the quote was misconstrued to include the S-chassis. I was talking more about the "restored" Porsches that come through my shop.

I don't hate on anyone with no interior or a crap paint job on their S-chassis. I hate on people who don't use their brains when modding.

It all bothers me because all the emphasis on price over functionality is destroying the originality and the quality manufacturers. They simply cannot innovate and they simply cannot produce quality parts if they can't make an profit because they're priced out of the market. Your choice to support some company in Taiwan or China is another choice forcing American and Japanese quality part suppliers to either close up or start distributing the crap. The selection is getting smaller for all of us, even if it seems like it's getting broader. It's just a bunch of crap manufacturers distributing crap products under different crap names.

SimpleSexy180
06-07-2008, 12:01 AM
welcome to the world market. Its been like that for awhile.

We all want to buy a reputable companies car parts. Realize though, their is a shitload of broke high school and college kids trying to build a 240's. No that does not include me, but thats the truth.

luftrofl
06-07-2008, 12:20 AM
So, if boba has struck gold, with these coilovers, so be it. Why be so irate, that he is running certain brand coilover? You aren't going to buy/run it, so why does it bother you so?

Odds are that the coilovers really aren't that great. If they were the shit we'd all have them by now. That said, they're probably fine for DD and you should be able to get away with them for drifting.

The main reason that people dislike these cheap brands it that they are knockoffs. Supporting knockoff brands hurts legit businesses, end of story. :down:

GabeS14
06-07-2008, 01:15 AM
Odds are that the coilovers really aren't that great. If they were the shit we'd all have them by now. That said, they're probably fine for DD and you should be able to get away with them for drifting.

The main reason that people dislike these cheap brands it that they are knockoffs. Supporting knockoff brands hurts legit businesses, end of story. :down:

CRazy expensive gay ass prices, hurt legit businesses!:tweak:

bo2o
06-07-2008, 01:56 AM
600 bucks for coilovers id rock them even if they felt like shit... beats riding on gay stech with gr2.

its those or koni setup.

this setup lets u get pretty low. so who can complain?

use them forawhile then try to get them warrentied. if not then sell them off and get another set for the win... haha.

morbid
06-07-2008, 04:43 AM
Good choice in music.

Christophikis
06-07-2008, 08:38 AM
Good choice in music.

Godspeed You! Black Emperor? If so, yes good music. :rawk:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godspeed_You!_Black_Emperor

essforteen
06-07-2008, 05:09 PM
CRazy expensive gay ass prices, hurt legit businesses!:tweak:

so true so true hahaha

bkg775
11-02-2008, 12:11 PM
So how'd they ride?

JVDSKYRINE
11-02-2008, 01:47 PM
Because I actually really like the S-chassis.

Because day in and day out, I see shit. I see shit paint, I see shit upholstery jobs, I see shit engine rebuilds, I see shit trans overhauls, I see shit. Unreliable, unremarkable shit.

I strive to do better, to make better. I understand monetary constraints because I live paycheck to paycheck for my Nissan. There is enough information out there for an informed decision, and it pains me that so many people just don't use the information.

HAHAHA shut up!! seriously he is writing a thread and trying to help the broke asses( drifters) which you seem to be. Stated by you "I live paycheck to paycheck". Most of the guys on this site are not balling out of control they are trying to make a fun car the best they got with what they got and I am sure that most people find this info quite valuable.

Tein's are expensive and they are the shittiest coilovers I have ever wridden on (brand new not used shit in 2 different models) Megans felt better than them. Plus they were also were monster trucks to boot. My back end would not even go low enough to tuck tires on 18's. So if these give us a slammed ride height and decent ride for cheap why should we knock that? especially if we are building daily/weekend warriors we can have fun with and not spend a fortune on?


thanks for the write up

allntrlundrgrnd
11-02-2008, 02:13 PM
do these make it easy to drift?


lol just playin, its hilarious how when these came out no one wanted to buy them until they heard reviews, now heres a review and cockbags like esonethree hate for doing the community a favor. like you said you have no room to talk cause you havent made a write-up, so stop fucking talking.

bkg775
11-02-2008, 05:04 PM
do these make it easy to drift?


lol just playin, its hilarious how when these came out no one wanted to buy them until they heard reviews, now heres a review and cockbags like esonethree hate for doing the community a favor. like you said you have no room to talk cause you havent made a write-up, so stop fucking talking.

You good sir took the words out of my mouth. I'm not trying to start another flame thread but doods like the one who test out these things are great for those on a budget. Y buy 1200 dollar coilovers when u can buy 500 dollar ones that are just trying to make a start.
Hopefully their good to drift with.

KA24DESOneThree
11-02-2008, 05:59 PM
do these make it easy to drift?


lol just playin, its hilarious how when these came out no one wanted to buy them until they heard reviews, now heres a review and cockbags like esonethree hate for doing the community a favor. like you said you have no room to talk cause you havent made a write-up, so stop fucking talking.

He is NOT doing the community a favor.

No one who buys parts with suspect quality is doing the community a favor. All they are doing is taking money that could go to companies who actually have R&D departments and giving it to companies who make generic bullshit that is copied from the other, higher-quality companies.

I see fewer and fewer cars with quality suspension parts and more and more cars with knock-offs. It's sad, because eventually that means all the quality manufacturers will move on and the cheap parts will be the only ones we can get.

The S-chassis may just be a phase for you but I love my S13. I want as many high-quality parts out there as possible. I could've put a down payment on a house or bought an M3 with the money I've spent over the years on my car. I'd rather sell my daily and all of my other possessions than ever get rid of my 240.

I'm usually broke but saved for a long time to get Koni double adjustables in custom housings. All you need to do is WAIT.

allntrlundrgrnd
11-02-2008, 06:08 PM
I see your point but 98% of the people in this thread want to know about the coilovers and his experience with them, not the fact you are butthurt that he bought them.

1989rps13
11-02-2008, 06:10 PM
He is NOT doing the community a favor.

No one who buys parts with suspect quality is doing the community a favor. All they are doing is taking money that could go to companies who actually have R&D departments and giving it to companies who make generic bullshit that is copied from the other, higher-quality companies.

I see fewer and fewer cars with quality suspension parts and more and more cars with knock-offs. It's sad, because eventually that means all the quality manufacturers will move on and the cheap parts will be the only ones we can get.

The S-chassis may just be a phase for you but I love my S13. I want as many high-quality parts out there as possible. I could've put a down payment on a house or bought an M3 with the money I've spent over the years on my car. I'd rather sell my daily and all of my other possessions than ever get rid of my 240.

I'm usually broke but saved for a long time to get Koni double adjustables in custom housings. All you need to do is WAIT.

May i see a pic of your car and all your quality parts?
your starting to get really annoying with your talk. So can you post pics of your car with one color paint job and jdm sexyness? Also are you running some mad agressive wheels that cost more than the 240sx? hmm maybe te37's .??

Many of us are doing this on a budget. I myself am buying authentic aero from the for sale thread here on zilvia. I still damage companies though by not buying full retail but then again im on a budget like many of us here. Im planning to buy some knock off parts though.

murda-c
11-02-2008, 06:13 PM
He is NOT doing the community a favor.

No one who buys parts with suspect quality is doing the community a favor. All they are doing is taking money that could go to companies who actually have R&D departments and giving it to companies who make generic bullshit that is copied from the other, higher-quality companies.

I see fewer and fewer cars with quality suspension parts and more and more cars with knock-offs. It's sad, because eventually that means all the quality manufacturers will move on and the cheap parts will be the only ones we can get.

The S-chassis may just be a phase for you but I love my S13. I want as many high-quality parts out there as possible. I could've put a down payment on a house or bought an M3 with the money I've spent over the years on my car. I'd rather sell my daily and all of my other possessions than ever get rid of my 240.

I'm usually broke but saved for a long time to get Koni double adjustables in custom housings. All you need to do is WAIT.

So wait, no one should ever try anything that is lower priced, because then no one will make expensive shit anymore?

Even if the lower priced stuff turns out to be perfectly fine for what they wanted to use it for?

keioffice
11-02-2008, 08:55 PM
so many people waiting to see if these pieces of shit are worth buying, i can tell you with out even riding on them that they arnt worth buying, but they are $500 coilovers so of course 240 owners are going to want to hear that they arnt that bad. Why are some luggage bags more expensive then others when they have the same function? i dont know but $500 coilovers arnt going to have the same function as say $1500 Zeal's or Koni's. You get what you pay for, and like some one else said this is were the market is going because every one would rather buy dirt cheap parts then ones built right. I can understand buying some knockoff parts of course like intercoolers and such but i would never buy crappy suspension parts thats just dangerous.

racepar1
11-02-2008, 09:04 PM
Godspeed is crap, we all know that. Look at all the install problems! All the coilovers that I have ever installed just bolted right in with no hammer. Also you don't have to disconnect any of the suspension arms to remove the stock shocks or to install the coilovers. I have done it a million times. Any knockoff part that has one or more moving part in it is NOT something that should be purchased. You can train a friggin monkey to weld a couple pieces of metal together good enough to not fall apart. Anything that requires actual engineering or high quality components to make the product worth purchasing is a part that you should spend good money on. Anyways I helped kill the last godspeed thread and I have no interest in doing it again. It is your choice whether or not you will listen to what I say and invest in some decent coilovers or buy these golden turds.


EDIT: I just read through the thread and I see NO REVIEW! It says REVIEW in the friggin title!

MrFairlady
11-02-2008, 09:58 PM
He is NOT doing the community a favor.

I want as many high-quality parts out there as possible. I could've put a down payment on a house or bought an M3 with the money I've spent over the years on my car.

And Thats why your 22.:lockd: and sound 22 in that small Statement.
I was the same when I was 17 w/ my GSR (ohhhhh,..the honda days)
You will need to Set your priorities soon...which I'm sure the O.P has done,seeing as how he bought a more "afordable" coilover setup.

You can find TONS of reviews on the expensive Shit...but not many good reviews on the shit people WANT to know if they should Touch or not.

HOW CAN YOU KNOW,if someone dosen't Step up and Review the products.Big Deal its Cheap and you Want 24k gold Struts (ohlin remote res shit's for your Daily) or some shit...some of us Don't & get coilovers because
1: Strut/spring combo won't Clear w/ wheels your running (offsets).
2: Don't want to lower a car on Stuts/springs and buy New Stuts every year on our daily's because they blow.
3: would rather Spread the money around if we can.
It's sad, because eventually that means all the quality manufacturers will move on and the cheap parts will be the only ones we can get.

4:Want to be Super low.
5:Theres the WHOLE rest of the world (japan included) that people are buying these "quality parts" from these 'quality manufacturers".Its not a big deal.

I run K-sports & LOVE THEM (old Evo & my current hatch) - ordering another set tomorrow for my Track Coupe I believe in them so much.Just happened to buy a set - never looked back - and also have owned Tein's and they were DOGSHIT on my old STi.

Chill the Fuck out and just accpet that NOT everyone wants what you want.Bottom line.
Now in all Seriousness,....if this was a review thread on like an Ebay Turbo...You have a case.Thats something I think you just don't Skimp on.


Goodnight all!:rofl:

racepar1
11-02-2008, 10:05 PM
Now in all Seriousness,....if this was a review thread on like an Ebay Turbo...You have a case.Thats something I think you just don't Skimp on.

That is just stupid right there. So you would go out and spend money on a high quality turbo, but cheap out on coils? Shocks are infinitely more complex and infinitely more important to the way a car drives then a turbo is. You want horsepower but have no interest in the parts that keep your wheels planted on the ground so that you can actually USE that horsepower? That makes sense. :mepoke: I have driven on k-sports and own tein's. If you seriously think the k-sports are "better" your perception of "good" is seriously out off.

EDIT: Since when does buying and SELLING cheap knockoff parts mean that your priorities are straight? I just don't understand that. The vast majority of us that have been into cars for a long period of time have spent enough money on car parts over the years to "put a downpayment on a house" or "buy an m3".

fliprayzin240sx
11-02-2008, 10:14 PM
Sweet Godspeed coilovers, I wonder how these are compared to my aragostas...

racepar1
11-02-2008, 10:19 PM
Sweet Godspeed coilovers, I wonder how these are compared to my aragostas...

LOfuckingL!!! Doode, the godspeeds are probably waaaaayyyyyyy better.

Fo sho! :cj:

90KAcoupe
11-02-2008, 10:55 PM
wow guys seriously.. maybe the guy is a broke ass like me and just wants his car to be lower and stiffer for drift events.. trust me im 17 and i go to as many drift events as i can.. and when ur going to school and then working a part-time job its hard to afford to travel for events and still be able to dump money on a new set of rear tires for the event..

and i really wouldnt mind having a set of these.. and i wouldnt mind trading my koni yellows for these.. just because i want to try something different.. the koni's are to soft for me.. i want somthing stiffer and lower for drift events..

so dont hate on everybody.. cause peoples needs are different.. and some people just dont give a damn.... i wanna drift so if i can buy a cheaper part and it will help me progress at drifting then why not??

racepar1
11-02-2008, 11:14 PM
wow guys seriously.. maybe the guy is a broke ass like me and just wants his car to be lower and stiffer for drift events.. trust me im 17 and i go to as many drift events as i can.. and when ur going to school and then working a part-time job its hard to afford to travel for events and still be able to dump money on a new set of rear tires for the event..

and i really wouldnt mind having a set of these.. and i wouldnt mind trading my koni yellows for these.. just because i want to try something different.. the koni's are to soft for me.. i want somthing stiffer and lower for drift events..

so dont hate on everybody.. cause peoples needs are different.. and some people just dont give a damn.... i wanna drift so if i can buy a cheaper part and it will help me progress at drifting then why not??

Everybody can use a good damper and the godspeed dampers suck. You should know that bobafreak at least used to sell godspeed coilovers and I think he still does. THAT is why he is pushing these. The sad tryth is that there is a market for these. I mean look at you! You have dampers that are infinitely better then the ones on these godspeed coils. All you need to do is put a ground control kit, some pilloball upper mounts, and keep your ride heighth moderate. Your car would perform much better like that. But you have been brainwashed by the drifting fad (yes it is a fad) and want your car slammed and so stiff that it makes your kidneys hurt. Stiffer isn't always better, even for drifting. Get educated before you trade your konis for some cheap ass coils.

Fries
11-02-2008, 11:15 PM
A lot of bitching in this thread. Let the man give his review. We all know theyre cheap. Quit beating the horse.

Racepar1 most schassis owners are more about looking cool then doing it right. People will drift/race stock shit, so why wouldnt they do the same with cheap shit.

Nothing anyone can say will stop the guy that really wants to lower his car but doesnt have much cash to get legit stuff from buying cheap stuff.

Stop crying.

racepar1
11-02-2008, 11:24 PM
A lot of bitching in this thread. Let the man give his review. We all know theyre cheap. Quit beating the horse.

Racepar1 most schassis owners are more about looking cool then doing it right. People will drift/race stock shit, so why wouldnt they do the same with cheap shit.

Nothing anyone can say will stop the guy that really wants to lower his car but doesnt have much cash to get legit stuff from buying cheap stuff.

Stop crying.

Most s-chasis owners are idiots and give the rest of us a bad wrap. Dampers are one of the main things that nobody should cheap out on because everybody can benefit from them. No matter what they do with their car. Hell I consider my tein flexes inadequate and "cheaping out" but for 99.9% of the rest of the people on this forum they would be perfect. I am not trying to tell everyone to go out and spens $2500 on a set of dope ass coils. I AM telling everyone that they would be better off with a set of fairly new used coils which would only run a few hundred bucks more then the godspeeds. I will continue to at least attempt to beat this very basic, and correct, knowledge that I posess into the minds of the general idiots. The funny thing here is that bobafreak promised a review and we are on page 4 with no review still! I wonder why? Maybe because they suck ass and he is afraid to tell everyone that! I mean people were requesting a review and bobafreak promised a review MONTHS ago in the previous thread about godspeed coilovers. HMMMMMM.........

Fries
11-02-2008, 11:34 PM
<3 Keep trying. We both know that at the end of the day it won't matter with most owners. It sucks, but it's this way with EVERY chassis. [God knows how many times I've wanted to punch a Porsche owner]

I do want a "review" I might get these for my daily whose only purpose is being so low that my suspension arms throw up gang signs and driving me to and from work. You'd be fucked to think I would ever put these on my "track car" though.

racepar1
11-02-2008, 11:38 PM
I might get these for my daily whose only purpose is being so low that my suspension arms throw up gang signs

LOL! I am tempted to quote this and put it in my sig! Shit is classic!

soreballz
11-02-2008, 11:39 PM
LOL! ANOTHER godspeed coilover thread! Bobafreak, people were BEGGING you for a review in the last thread and you FINALLY did something just now? LOL!

Old thread is old.

Pay attention to post dates. Bobafreak did nothing JUST NOW, hell, he sold the car months ago.

racepar1
11-02-2008, 11:42 PM
Old thread is old.

Pay attention to post dates. Bobafreak did nothing JUST NOW, hell, he sold the car months ago.

FAWK! I HATE it when people bump old threads! I never look at the damn post date. DAMMIT, I have to start paying attention to that.

Fries
11-02-2008, 11:42 PM
Old thread is old.

Pay attention to post dates. Bobafreak did nothing JUST NOW, hell, he sold the car months ago.
:keke:

I saw what you did there drift phreak[q?] =D

drift freaq
11-02-2008, 11:54 PM
:keke:

I saw what you did there drift phreak[q?] =D


lol ya someone should lock this shit up.

khmer1
11-03-2008, 12:26 AM
please donate to the "i need great coilover foundation" so far we are short of $2,000 every penny counts donated as much as you can 1,5,10,20, etc even coin change(do not except pennies haha)

economy is bad and it getting worse

fliprayzin240sx
11-03-2008, 03:06 AM
please donate to the "i need great coilover foundation" so far we are short of $2,000 every penny counts donated as much as you can 1,5,10,20, etc even coin change(do not except pennies haha)

economy is bad and it getting worse


WHAT?!?!

This post, sense, none made from it...:mepoke:

Whats sad is that, the China man who couldnt understand engrish made more sense.

Bobafreak
11-03-2008, 11:49 AM
Most s-chasis owners are idiots and give the rest of us a bad wrap. Dampers are one of the main things that nobody should cheap out on because everybody can benefit from them. No matter what they do with their car. Hell I consider my tein flexes inadequate and "cheaping out" but for 99.9% of the rest of the people on this forum they would be perfect. I am not trying to tell everyone to go out and spens $2500 on a set of dope ass coils. I AM telling everyone that they would be better off with a set of fairly new used coils which would only run a few hundred bucks more then the godspeeds. I will continue to at least attempt to beat this very basic, and correct, knowledge that I posess into the minds of the general idiots. The funny thing here is that bobafreak promised a review and we are on page 4 with no review still! I wonder why? Maybe because they suck ass and he is afraid to tell everyone that! I mean people were requesting a review and bobafreak promised a review MONTHS ago in the previous thread about godspeed coilovers. HMMMMMM.........

wow coming from a mechanic with failed promises..... As stated i never gave the review on how they were due to the fact i didnt even abuse them. The fuckin car sat in my garage douche. Maybe you should look apon reading my threads to see the car was sold maybe a month after these were on... Stop looking for a bashing and focus on being more of a reliable mechanic and do some work. Please dont make me bring out my old pms of your "ohh so busy and caught up excuses just for a price quote." sighhh. Im locking this shit up.