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Daniel.
05-24-2008, 11:41 PM
Lovers want to love. I don't even want, none of the above. I want to piss on you.


Oh, oops. Anyways.

Guy builds clean ass 67 'maro powered with a 2jz. LS1tech members want to piss on him.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=907324

Clean fucking car. no doubt.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/001.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/028-1.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/037.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/007.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/018.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/021.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/026.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/029.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/030.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/043.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/044.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/evsmotors/Custom%20Projects/1967%20Camaro%20SS%202JZ/045.jpg

HyperTek
05-24-2008, 11:45 PM
all those pics and not a single good shot of the side...


id perfer my 67 in a more traditional stock manor, but this one is ok

BustedS13
05-24-2008, 11:47 PM
another one bites the dust. too bad, really

i can respect the craftsmanship but that shouldn't be done to a classic car
yes, a first gen f body is a classic car.

Antihero983
05-25-2008, 12:00 AM
^im with busted on this one.

if it were a newer camaro, say, third generation and up, then hell yeah.

i love how the kid with an s14.5 called him a ricer...hypocrite...

he reminds me of how CTnewman (the kid here with the RB26 E30 build) is on the E30 forums, its a fucking riot!

i love his sarcasm.

however, i doubt it will get driven that much, which is a waste, and he did none of the work himself from what i gathered reading the thread.

HyperTek
05-25-2008, 12:49 AM
one of those cars that doesnt sell for much on barett jackson because its not original

GSXRJJordan
05-25-2008, 12:55 AM
That's right. If you're not 'parts matching', you're not l337. If you don't even have the same manufactuers parts on the car, you're not getting your money out at all.

I kinda dig it, but shit, why do that? LS1 TT'd would give the same 'feel' with half the boost, about the same cost, and much more respect.

Tearlessj
05-25-2008, 01:38 AM
I love that car, of course I don't really have an idea of what was ruined.
Interior on that thing is BEAUTIFUL. I don't know if I would have chosen the 2JZ though.


If anyone is interested, heres a video of the exhaust on that thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psvmiYoNPec

HalveBlue
05-25-2008, 01:40 AM
I dig it.

Something different that was executed quite well. More power to him.

fromxtor
05-25-2008, 02:00 AM
^im with busted on this one.

if it were a newer camaro, say, third generation and up, then hell yeah.

i love how the kid with an s14.5 called him a ricer...hypocrite...

he reminds me of how CTnewman (the kid here with the RB26 E30 build) is on the E30 forums, its a fucking riot!

i love his sarcasm.

however, i doubt it will get driven that much, which is a waste, and he did none of the work himself from what i gathered reading the thread.

You do know thats Duy from visionboy.com S14 w/ 2JZ in it right?

mRclARK1
05-25-2008, 02:05 AM
I dig it.

Something different that was executed quite well. More power to him.

My thoughts exactly.

Antihero983
05-25-2008, 02:12 AM
You do know thats Duy from visionboy.com S14 w/ 2JZ in it right?

who? wha?

elaborate?

an_orange_s2k
05-25-2008, 02:24 AM
something original, pretty cool. i agree with busted though an old school like this should be kept in top original condition

Fries
05-25-2008, 08:09 AM
I totally disagree, this is the most amazing car evar. I fucking love it.

ThatGuy
05-25-2008, 08:21 AM
I'm not a fan.

Not that I don't like the car, but it's got too many time periods trying to compete for attention. Build a classic, or build something modern. Mix and match turns out FAIL.
Not that I don't like the engine, but I don't think it was the best choice here. I understand, and respect his choices to use it, but his argument against LSx engines is crap.
I really don't care for them together, nor do I care for the execution of this build. From just the short bit I read from the original thread, this guy just seems like an attention whore. Great, you did something different. Different does not mean better.
Heck, he didn't even build it. He had a shop build it and they threw their name on like 5million parts of the car. It's not even his car, he's just driving their rolling advertisement.

SR2Zero
05-25-2008, 08:24 AM
I like it... Def. different. The interior is amazing. Exhaust sounds like a beast too.

DOOK
05-25-2008, 08:39 AM
I'm not a fan.

Not that I don't like the car, but it's got too many time periods trying to compete for attention. Build a classic, or build something modern. Mix and match turns out FAIL.
Not that I don't like the engine, but I don't think it was the best choice here. I understand, and respect his choices to use it, but his argument against LSx engines is crap.
I really don't care for them together, nor do I care for the execution of this build. From just the short bit I read from the original thread, this guy just seems like an attention whore. Great, you did something different. Different does not mean better.
Heck, he didn't even build it. He had a shop build it and they threw their name on like 5million parts of the car. It's not even his car, he's just driving their rolling advertisement.

couldn't have said it better myself... Love the car, love the engine... Hate the combination

muddafakka
05-25-2008, 08:47 AM
I admire the work that was put into it (by the shop, of course) but a 2JZ is definitely not the engine I would have chosen personally. It's cool to do shit differently at times but not with a first-gen Camaro. I'd rather keep things a bit more traditional.

fliprayzin240sx
05-25-2008, 09:26 AM
Wheres this damn exhaust that everybody was bitching about??? I didnt see any exhaust shots...

Omarius Maximus
05-25-2008, 09:57 AM
The guy obviously did this because he's an attention whore. If this thing had an LSx, it wouldn't be the trillionth time I've seen it on a forum. 2jz instead of an LSx is good for only one thing in a domestic car; attention.

Future240
05-25-2008, 10:10 AM
I'm not a fan.

Not that I don't like the car, but it's got too many time periods trying to compete for attention. Build a classic, or build something modern. Mix and match turns out FAIL.
Not that I don't like the engine, but I don't think it was the best choice here. I understand, and respect his choices to use it, but his argument against LSx engines is crap.
I really don't care for them together, nor do I care for the execution of this build. From just the short bit I read from the original thread, this guy just seems like an attention whore. Great, you did something different. Different does not mean better.
Heck, he didn't even build it. He had a shop build it and they threw their name on like 5million parts of the car. It's not even his car, he's just driving their rolling advertisement.

Took the words out of my mouth. I think cross brand engine swaps robs the car of its beauty. The 2jz is a good solid engine, I just think that it should be kept to what it was made for, toyota. As much as I like nissan, I didnt like that mustang with the rb26 either. The thought of a classic american muscle car taking off with the sound of a 6 cylinder engine is firing out of the tail pipes is somethin that IMO jus shouldnt happen. The inside is nice, but what's the point of a modern interior on a classic car? again robbing the car. And the fact that he didnt build it just makes it even worse. This is a great 67 camaro that has been raped and turned into an import clown for show. I think it is a gross tradgey, but hey to each their own

Flipzide
05-25-2008, 11:15 AM
I did the paint, i dig the interior, and i'm so-so on the motor.

After watching the provided video in this thread of the exhaust shots, I felt weird hearing an inline six instead of a v8.

Oh well. Not my money so whatever.

BustedS13
05-25-2008, 11:25 AM
You do know thats Duy from visionboy.com S14 w/ 2JZ in it right?

what?

my only guess is that you for some reason think that this should bother someone as much as a 2jz in a first gen camaro. a 2jz in an s14 doesn't annoy me in any way, because s14's are only 10-13 years old at this point, and will never be considered classics anyway. they're like nissan's el camino or something.

GoodOl'S13
05-25-2008, 11:27 AM
I dont dig it, but its not my money. LS7 TT w/ stock interior= WIN. when i saw the interior shots i thought someone had scan a late 90s super street.

ronmcdon
05-25-2008, 12:56 PM
Other than the gaudy logo all over the place, and the interior color theme, I most certainly can appreciate this camaro. granted I wouldn't take the same approach, and nor would I choose the same chassis, but I think the end product was very well assembled, clean and effective overall. Personally i like the 2jz over the ls-1 and its variants, so no complaints about that. If there was any japanese motor to be thrown in a muscle car, I could think of none better.

Was this mismatched? Depends on the purpose of the vehicle. If it was for show as the owner of the vehicle implied, then maybe it served its purpose well with the trophies he was gloating about. But yeah, something like this is bound to be controversial. Not surprised so many ppl either love it or hate it.

good job! :)

status:one
05-25-2008, 12:59 PM
absolutely love it.

S14DB
05-25-2008, 01:21 PM
Didn't they come with I6 as a base model?

SimpleSexy180
05-25-2008, 01:43 PM
the next fucker to say a 240 will never be a classic SHOULD be banned.

as for the car... its clean.

TheWolf
05-25-2008, 02:15 PM
look at the tiny downpipe from that turbo and see how it's gonna barely flow 500hp if that let alone the 900+ claimed... the turbine is too small as well..

drift freaq
05-25-2008, 03:09 PM
the next fucker to say a 240 will never be a classic SHOULD be banned.

as for the car... its clean.

hehehehehehehehehehehe >bites ones tongue.

Bubbles
05-25-2008, 09:11 PM
I was going to add some insight to this conversation but instead I popped in David Chappelle season 1.



I stick by that decision.

Mi Beardo es Loco
05-25-2008, 09:59 PM
he obviously built it to look like a supercar. The outside is nice. I wish he could have done without the red in the inside, it would have made it a bit more elegant. He did a great job on it though.

As for the motor, who knows?
Maybe all the cops confiscated all the cars from his garage and the only thing he had was an orange 2jz Supra crashed in the backyard. So after overnighting parts from Japan he found out that his dad was building a Camaro but didn't have a motor in it because he couldn't find an affordable Chevy motor. So he went ahead and put the 2jz inside the Maro just because it was available.

Daniel.
05-26-2008, 01:10 AM
I was going to add some insight to this conversation but instead I popped in David Chappelle season 1.



I stick by that decision.

Glad my post inspired you. :rawk:

EDacIouSX
05-26-2008, 01:45 AM
he obviously built it to look like a supercar. The outside is nice. I wish he could have done without the red in the inside, it would have made it a bit more elegant. He did a great job on it though.

As for the motor, who knows?
Maybe all the cops confiscated all the cars from his garage and the only thing he had was an orange 2jz Supra crashed in the backyard. So after overnighting parts from Japan he found out that his dad was building a Camaro but didn't have a motor in it because he couldn't find an affordable Chevy motor. So he went ahead and put the 2jz inside the Maro just because it was available.


I think this will explain what i have to say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUurALr_Ckk

WanganRunner
05-26-2008, 06:50 PM
Cool car, very high quality of work.

I like that he used a 2JZ, it's different and it's certainly a capable powerplant.

1st gen F-bodies aren't so rare that this is a travesty, it's not like it's a Bugatti Atlantic or something. People hack up C1 Corvettes to build nasty-looking silly dragstrip cars, this is a much less pronounced sin than that.

And the fact that he didn't do much/any of his own work isn't a big deal. *Most* people who can afford to build cars this radical can afford to pay someone else to do it for them. The reality is that 99% of most people building top-shelf cars aren't doing it with their own hands.

Farzam
05-26-2008, 10:49 PM
Mustangs get RBs
Camaros get JZs

GSXRJJordan
05-27-2008, 12:04 AM
Mustangs get RBs
Camaros get JZs

HAhahahaha - whadda we give 'vettes?

mRclARK1
05-27-2008, 12:05 AM
An SR.

:keke:

I kid... unless someone was dumb enough to do it? :ugh:

ESmorz
05-27-2008, 12:06 AM
HAhahahaha - whadda we give 'vettes?

20b's ... and then the world will explode.

SHIFT_*grind*
05-27-2008, 10:14 AM
Props to him for doing it and pissing everyone off.

I'm sure it hauls ass, and the engine does sound nice. That said...a worked-over 302 would sound a lot nicer. :)

Devil Man
05-27-2008, 11:23 AM
that car is amazing. very well done just not really liking the combo of motor and car, should have been an ls1 and if he wanted to have some psssh sound then tt the ls... again great car i love it... just not the combo

nismo-joe
05-27-2008, 01:53 PM
I'm not too sure if i like it or not, but at least it was done well.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x168/bodiee/unique_by_krashthumbnail.jpg

SexPanda
05-27-2008, 02:07 PM
thats so wrong... im sorry. Great, even fan-fucking-tastic craftsmanship, but in every single aspect of the build wrong.

i've helped restore camaros, chevelles, impalas... never once did i think of putting anything besides at least a 350 into them, with the camaro getting a 454... Im sorry, i just cant do it. I know you cant argue numbers, but theres just something more to numbers in this case. Your messing with classic american muscle, and a rare piece of history at that. you dont see many 1st gen f-bodies rolling around these days. Now if he had put that engine and work into an e30 bimmer... That would have been ok. You can total one of those and not feel HORRIBLE, just bad. you can still find those in decent numbers.

Akiros
05-27-2008, 03:42 PM
fuckin love it.

S13Boosts
05-27-2008, 03:44 PM
clean ass fuck...

steve shadows
05-27-2008, 03:49 PM
Personally I would have put a V8 in it...

but I'm just a nissan guy...

FRpilot
06-08-2009, 12:44 AM
You do know thats Duy from visionboy.com S14 w/ 2JZ in it right?

who? wha?

elaborate?

Duy, iirc, is one of the original pioneers of ka-t in the early 2000's.. possibly even started messing with turboing KAs in late 90s.. he built like the fastest ka-t at the time, ran something crazy like 9 or 10secs, at a time when 240sx had barely any aftermarket support and people first started exploring importing sr20s to swap into their 240sx.

then he sold that... bought something else and played around with that, and eventually came back with that white s14 and appeared on ka-t.org when that forum just started.

fromxtor, is just saying, calling duy a ricer is kind of out of context.

Agamemnon
06-08-2009, 01:25 AM
This thread is a year old.......

meteorite_flo
06-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Mustangs get RBs
Camaros get JZs

Corvettes get the VR38DETT.