Why does everyone hate the 8 (Sil-Eightys)?

[ROUGE180]

Mods, pop'n'lock if you think this thread is dumb. I have just read so many threads where people hate Sil-80's with a passion and I wanted to understand why. Please answer with more than "I want to piss on any Sil-80 I see" or "I hope you catch AIDS for liking Sil-80's".:squint:

I have always been torn between my popups and the Silvia conversion. I have an 89' piggy that I love. It looks like it cuts through the wind even standing still. I also like the ole school feel of the popups themselves. Seems like all new cars look the same and have not character. There are some but they are far and few between.

I like the Silvia front end as it's something different and has that subtle aggressive look. It's not something that you see everyday (around where I live anyway). I was in a wreck no too long ago and wanted to do change it up a bit. I was considering Type-X but I got a super ridiculous deal on a complete s13 Aero front end conversion. It's a nose cut with triple projectors, hood, fenders in minty condition. It was too good to pass up considering how rare it is.

So.. tell me why? Feelings? Please contribute. Thanks

Chewy

[DUFFM4N]

body lines dont match up...looks dumb imo

[k's_silvia2.0]

Awwww man c'mon!

[VROOOM]

who cares what everyone else thinks, if you like it go for it.

[tacotacotaco]

Body lines don't match

Honestly i hate them from association. Ive seen so many shit box fastbacks with sil-80 fronts just for the sake of jdm styling. I hate hearing new owners talk about putting a sil front on their car as the first step. I mean i understand people do different things with their cars. I guess its a reflection of the fanboy honda thinking and the fact that its translating over towards what was more of an enthusiast based platform. I swear any owner who does a sil front and rhd conversion before anything else is just agggggg. But yeah whatever gets you going. Its lighter than a popup front end. But this is just my biased opinions i have friends with sil-80's i dont hate them i just twitch when i see their cars.

[ROUGE180]

who cares what everyone else thinks, if you like it go for it.

I know that.. I'm doing it. I'm just curious is all.

[LongGrain]

i just think its ugly..

[ROUGE180]

Body lines don't match

Honestly i hate them from association. Ive seen so many shit box fastbacks with sil-80 fronts just for the sake of jdm styling. I hate hearing new owners talk about putting a sil front on their car as the first step. I mean i understand people do different things with their cars. I guess its a reflection of the fanboy honda thinking and the fact that its translating over towards what was more of an enthusiast based platform. I swear any owner who does a sil front and rhd conversion before anything else is just agggggg. But yeah whatever gets you going. Its lighter than a popup front end. But this is just my biased opinions i have friends with sil-80's i dont hate them i just twitch when i see their cars.

Thanks for your opinion. I was figuring that it was the fanboy thing that everyone hated. I like the OEM style. Low key. Subtle and witha purpose. I definately am not doing it to be Jay D EM TYTE YO!! at all.

[brndck]

the only reason i dislike em, keep in mind i've had all 3 styles of lights (duals, triples, and bricks) was how difficult/expensive (fyi this was 4 years ago) it was to find replacements every time i damaged one. i liked the styling, and the weight reduction, but after multiple smashings with deer, turkeys, and embankments, i got sick of sourcing headlights and then having to wait like 3 weeks for em to arrive.

o ya and they're dim as fuck too.

[ROUGE180]

the only reason i dislike em, keep in mind i've had all 3 styles of lights (duals, triples, and bricks) was how difficult/expensive (fyi this was 4 years ago) it was to find replacements every time i damaged one. i liked the styling, and the weight reduction, but after multiple smashings with deer, turkeys, and embankments, i got sick of sourcing headlights and then having to wait like 3 weeks for em to arrive.

o ya and they're dim as fuck too.

yeah I had been thinking about the headlight situation if something crazy happened. A couple bills every time I need lights would suck. The dim thing I heard about too. I'm going to get HIDs to counter that issue.

[s13coupedrfter]

Yeah body lines don't match for sure but the only sil80 to put it off IMO is team Orange. I can't find any pics but I think it was at the first D1 at Irwindale.

[Vision Garage]

Strawberryface FTW. Sorry but i would take one over a sil80 anyday.

[DUFFM4N]

15 front...should only be on a 15....

[BustedS13]

it looks rad
i dig it

[flip3d]

I wanna do it only because my pop up lights dont work.

[azndoc]

I think seriously because most people don't do it right now it seems.

It's half ass it seems.

But seriously the reason why I hate it is that it's a square front with round rear.

Just doesn't flow right. If they were to do 50mm overfender in the rear to bring out the rear more then I think would flow better. On the rare chance of me liking one, it usually does have widebody.

Also kit is very important on how it all ties in together with the line.

But that's just me. Who cares about my opinion anyways.

[1989rps13]

first of all fastbacks look hella nice with the pop ups ..

2nd.. the silvia conversion i believe should only belong to the coupes because it just goes with the body and fits well not like the hatchy it looks like a girl with a hot face with like a camel toe hahha ewww..
im bored :(

[Matej]

They're total uggz, even coupes look better with pop-ups.

[projekt_s13]

I hate them, but if you have the right combination of aero and wheels you can pull it off.

[ESmorz]

'Cause it's so 2002. Duh :w00t:

[T chop]

Cause Mako Sato lost.

[ms!3]

They're total uggz, even coupes look better with pop-ups.

i was about to say the same thing until i read across your post. lol

[an_orange_s2k]

i think the sil80 is alright, but i definitely prefer the pop up's better on the hatches. the coupes look good with both silvia and pop up...

[po12nh d]

I like it speaking from having one, although the light is a little dim but nothing a hid kit cant fix.. plus since your head lights are already mess up you should do it. as long as you keep it drop with some biiick ass wheels feel me?

[bbejj123]

well i got it with the car and got my car for 2k so i figured silvia front = about 600-800 and it also had tein he's 1k-1.4k so i figured it was a steal =P...but ever since i got it i have loved it...IMO if u hook up the fog lights with the running lights it looks sick at night!

[mRclARK1]

Same reason someone doesn't like any other car. Personal taste.

[KwKouki]

It can be pulled off, but most peoples attempts are half assed and rediculous. If you are gonna do something that requires that much work, please make sure everything lines up correctly, get aero that matches and make sure every body panel from the doors up are one color.

Ive seen some REALLY nice sil80s, but the bad outweighs the good. Personally I am a flipup kind of guy for both configurations.

[status:one]

I don't dislike sil80s....I'm just not a big fan. I don't think the headlights flow with the body lines of a hatch. The coupe is more angular so it works imo. Like MrClark said... it's just personal taste.

[ManoNegra]

Not the current flavor of the month
Everyone was on it's jock, including myself, in early 2000 - now it's tired and played out
Initial D association and the fanboy status that goes with it
Most don't do it right - mismatched panels w/o paint nor wheels = fail
Seriously, only front end conversion I like for the S chassis is S14 zenki to kouki front.

[Yuri]

I love Sileighties.
If I were to build another S13, it would be a Sileighty, white over crystal blue two-tone with a burnt orange 350Z interior.

I really miss my old Sileighty.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/ID22.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/pic071.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/mycarhasasweetass.jpg


But just like S13.4's, S13.5's and S14.5's, many people can't pull them off, and as a result, people hate on them because they are so used to seeing crappy ones.

[Flipzide]

Not everyone hates sil 80s.

I'm a personal fan of them

Only conversions I dislike now are S15 conversions and s14 kouki on hatches.

Usually the stuff has to grow on you, but I've always liked the sil 80 since i got into s-chassis stuff.

[RedStage]

I love Sileighties.
If I were to build another S13, it would be a Sileighty, white over crystal blue two-tone with a burnt orange 350Z interior.

I really miss my old Sileighty.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/ID22.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/pic071.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/mycarhasasweetass.jpg


But just like S13.4's, S13.5's and S14.5's, many people can't pull them off, and as a result, people hate on them because they are so used to seeing crappy ones.

That is gorgeous. How could anyone "Hate" that....?

For the people that "hate" it because of the played out aspect....stop putting SR's in your 240's, stop putting JDM aero on your 240's, stop putting decent wheels on your 240's.....cuz otherwise you are being hypocritical.

Keep in mind that the Sil-80 was born out of necessity for those that wrecked their 180's and didn't want to fork out, or didn't have the money to replace the pop-ups.

My opinion, based off of never really noticing 240sx's before coming to Japan in 93, I didn't like the coupe with pop-ups.
I knew them as One-Via's and wasn't until after I got my first S13 did I realize that the states had these cars. Mind you this was back in 1993. For me the 240sx coupe was something that people here in Japan did to be different and I didn't like the way it looked at all.

However, I love and respect the S13 in all forms now. I have gotten past my ignorance and vehicle discrimination ;) (EDIT: In regards to Nissans)

And if I find myself behind the wheel of an S13 again, I will probably do a Sil-80, since I haven't had one.

[lflkajfj12123]

body lines don't flow

square headlights are weak

and its total fanboy initial d status

i'm sure people who changed to sil front back then only did it because aids is cheap

[ASIA]

I agree with Yuri. Just like every other conversion, most people can't pull it off. This guy knows how to do it:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/19/al50hwwb0.jpg

[lflkajfj12123]

no he doesn't.

[Matej]

I agree with Yuri. Just like every other conversion, most people can't pull it off. This guy knows how to do it:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/19/al50hwwb0.jpg
When I see a nice Sil80 like that, I always think, "wow, that car could look so much more amazing with pop-ups."

[an_orange_s2k]

I have gotten past my ignorance and vehicle (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=194080&page=2#) discrimination ;)
i cant say that while cars like these are running around....
http://www.mike.vcn.com/tmp/ricer_civic_2.jpg
.....its like they are just asking for it

[ASIA]

When I see a nice Sil80 like that, I always think, "wow, that car could look so much more amazing with pop-ups."

haha, don't get me wrong, I think pop-up's>everything on both fastbacks and coupes, but you have to admit, it's one of the better looking sil80's out there.

[fliprayzin240sx]

#1 reason people hate on it is because everybody is jumped the band wagon on it. I assure you that 80% of the people who hate on it are the same people who actually have this front end at one point or another.

It was koo when not a whole lot of people were jocking it. It became uncool when 5574928 kids slapped it on their car and couldnt get the darn things painted.

[ManoNegra]

^ True, it's inevitable - whatever is popular at one point will be hated on at a later one.

[Matej]

It became uncool when 5574928 kids slapped it on their car and couldnt get the darn things painted.
First pic in the picture thread. :keke:
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4901/2043hw6.jpg

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

as stated it just doesn't to flow right. square to round doesn't work for me.

[ms!3]

i love seeing sil-eightys with pop-up hoods. the best.

[Future240]

I like the sil's on the coupes, the hatchbacks not so much


that pic an orange s2k posted, wow.............that has acsended past juss ricey, if nausea took a the form of a car is what i think of it

[HyperTek]

Yuri's old whip, clean sileighty...
i think people dont like sileighty for its fanboy association.

[MikeisNissan]

I'm a Nissan lover. So no hate, unless riced.

[YoungGun]

A Sil-eighty gave me herpes.

[stiizy]

i cant say that while cars like these are running around....
http://www.mike.vcn.com/tmp/ricer_civic_2.jpg
.....its like they are just asking for it

what the fuck is that??? (yes i know its a jdm tyte EG:keke::keke:)

[S13_Nightkid]

personal taste.? its ugly. IMO.



For the people that "dislike" it because of the played out aspect....stop putting SR's in your 240's, stop putting JDM aero on your 240's, stop putting decent wheels on your 240's.....cuz otherwise you are being hypocritical.



80% of the people on ziliva are hypocritical?

[HyperTek]

thats how a sileighty should look like
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4901/2043hw6.jpg

the "ah fawk i busted my front end during touge so i took my buddies front end he had layin on that old car" lol

[Fries]

15 front...should only be on a 15....


And 14 fronts should only be on 14s. Silvia fronts should never touch a fastback.

This is just rediculous. I'm not hatin on you Duff I just dont like this thinking, where its cool for a s13 to do a s14 but the second either do a s15 it weaksauce.

Is it played out? Yes. Does it look bad? If its not done half ass it looks good on all schassis.

[Disclaimer: I have no idea how you[[Duffboy]] feel about 14 fronts on 13s, just drawing a general assumption based upon what I've noticed in the schassis world]

thats how a sileighty should look like
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4901/2043hw6.jpg

the "ah fawk i busted my front end during touge so i took my buddies front end he had layin on that old car" lol


Thats also only if you know the story behind it. Otherwise it's
"Aw damnzzz I want me a JDMZ front end! IDC that I dont have enough moneiz for paint!"

But your story makes the car cooler for sure.

Phuck I drank some hatorade tonight! <3<3

[lflkajfj12123]

And 14 fronts should only be on 14s. Silvia fronts should never touch a fastback.

This is just rediculous. I'm not hatin on you Duff I just dont like this thinking, where its cool for a s13 to do a s14 but the second either do a s15 it weaksauce.

Is it played out? Yes. Does it look bad? If its not done half ass it looks good on all schassis.

[Disclaimer: I have no idea how you[[Duffboy]] feel about 14 fronts on 13s, just drawing a general assumption based upon what I've noticed in the schassis world]




Thats also only if you know the story behind it. Otherwise it's
"Aw damnzzz I want me a JDMZ front end! IDC that I dont have enough moneiz for paint!"

But your story makes the car cooler for sure.

Phuck I drank some hatorade tonight! <3<3

ugh yeah thats a moderator's car on this forum

and yeah he did crash

[KwKouki]

wow this kevin pratt guy needs to tighten the fuck up and get off the bandwagon :rofl: silly poseur

[Fries]

ugh yeah thats a moderator's car on this forum

and yeah he did crash

Never said it wasnt a legitmate story. [I like sileightythingymabob personally] But if you were an outsider, [Read:Lived under a rock] and hated the sil80s what would you think?





p.s. is there another word for sil80 because its an annoying word to type and I feel like a douche bag referring to a car as a Sil 80.

[Matej]

http://www.mike.vcn.com/tmp/ricer_civic_2.jpg
.....its like they are just asking for it
Haha I would so drive that! Rather than a Sil80.

[KiLLeR2001]

Only Silvia conversion that should be considered for the hatch is the S15, anything else doesn't flow right. But there's really nothing wrong with the popups either....

[Antihero983]

i despise them, they were decent when i saw one every once and awhile, but now they are overkill.

same thing with the S15 fronts too.

just leave it alone and make it fast and handle well.

[Yuri]

Zilvia's gotten really funny.

I can't help but laugh at everyone getting bent out of shape over what front end someone has on their car, and how "played out" it is or isn't.

I think I'll just get a Corolla GTS now. Hopefully they're played out to the point that they're fresh again... :rolleyes: :rofl:

[origin_s135]

i don't think there's anything wrong with a sil-eighty. like most people said, "if you can pull it off right." i completely agree with that.

Only Silvia conversion that should be considered for the hatch is the S15, anything else doesn't flow right. But there's really nothing wrong with the popups either....

found this on google:
http://www.jdm-garage.com/jdm/carsforsale/sil-eighty/3.jpg
http://www.jdm-garage.com/jdm/carsforsale/sil-eighty/DSC08595.jpg
i think it looks fine, this guy pulled it off. to the OP; DO IT!

info on wiki for people that is calling it "fanboy":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sileighty

[projekt_s13]

Sil-forty people, hehe

[DohcKA]

you just gotta pull it off...

[azndoc]

ehhh....

A hater bandwagon i did not jump on.

I can still remember the first time i saw a sil-80.

Camp Hansen hobby shop okinawa japan

Early 2003 or late 2002. Geez that was long ago.

One of the mechanics there name richard owned a sil-80. With a pair of 15 inch longchamps on which i loved and still do. But that was the first sil-80 i saw and i thought it was ugly as fuck. I didn't even know what it was back, just that i personally didn't like it.

Op if you like it and want to do it then just do it.

Fuck it.

I'll just spend the rest of my time on zilvia neg repping you.





Just kidding.

[urmyhero4now]

its just damned ugly.

[MaD1337M3DRiV3r]

They dont look all that bad in person, either way I actually love the popups with the chuki front end. It looks the cleanest W/ the xenon lip and chuki sides imo

adrians_s13:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/2012572999_e66d0490e7_o.jpg

[status:one]

i don't think there's anything wrong with a sil-eighty. like most people said, "if you can pull it off right." i completely agree with that. found this on google:think it looks fine, this guy pulled it off. to the OP; DO IT!

info on wiki for people that is calling it "fanboy":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sileighty

that car could have just changed my mind. I think if it's done right... it can be pulled off quite easily.

[ayuaddict]

i like sil face on fastback!

well, except S14 faces.

S13 and S15 silvia faces on fastbacks look dope.

[ROUGE180]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/ID22.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/pic071.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/mycarhasasweetass.jpg


Very nice. They do look good when done right. I'm also partial to red as my car is red as well. Sweetness!!

[ROUGE180]

Op if you like it and want to do it then just do it.

Fuck it.

I'll just spend the rest of my time on zilvia neg repping you.





Just kidding.

Hugs not Thugs lol

[mrmephistopheles]

yeah I had been thinking about the headlight situation if something crazy happened. A couple bills every time I need lights would suck. The dim thing I heard about too. I'm going to get HIDs to counter that issue.

HIDs would just mean you're blinding oncoming traffic even more.

15 front...should only be on a 15....

I agree.


First pic in the picture thread. :keke:

EAT ME.

thats how a sileighty should look like
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4901/2043hw6.jpg

the "ah fawk i busted my front end during touge so i took my buddies front end he had layin on that old car" lol

It was Fuji Speedway, not touge. I think I spent $100 on the whole front end?
The lamps were donated by yokotaS13 (Grant), the fenders and bumper support were in the trash somewhere, and I bought the hood because I couldn't find any anywhere.

It was far cheaper than buying more replacement 180sx stuff, and I didn't care enough about that car to want to spend money making it look GOOD. I just wanted it to look normal enough so cops wouldn't bug me.

That car was ugly when we got it, looked decent until I crashed it, and was ugly from there on. Look in the vBPicGallery (http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=71) if you don't believe me.

My opinion is that most 'Sil80/Sil40's look like total unadulterated ass. I do not prefer them. It can be done well, but it's rare to see it done so.
I prefer '180sx' face for fastbacks and 'S13 Silvia' face for coupes. I'm not a big fan of transplanting S14/15 faces onto S13s.

[lflkajfj12123]

http://www.jdm-garage.com/jdm/carsforsale/sil-eighty/DSC08595.jpg


and i can't help but stare at the silvia and not the sil-eighty

that silvia looks clean!

[bloodangels13]

its all preference like stated before... jus like assholes ... everyones got one and they all stink....
im mostly with Kevin on this one tho..
when i saw the pic go up of his car i knew what was ganna be said lol:spank:

[VROOOM]

i cant say that while cars like these are running around....
http://www.mike.vcn.com/tmp/ricer_civic_2.jpg
.....its like they are just asking for it

all it needs is a crazy bozo exhaust tip to complete it

[ROUGE180]

HIDs would just mean you're blinding oncoming traffic even more.


Remember when Mercs started coming out with the piss yellow HIDs way back in the day (mid 90's)? PAY BACK!!!! MUAHAHAHAA.. They used to blind me all the time. But seriously. I've read many times on here and other places that the silvia lights are very dim. Is there an alternative to HIDs with good light output? My nose cut came with triple projectors.

[mrmephistopheles]

Remember when Mercs started coming out with the piss yellow HIDs way back in the day (mid 90's)? PAY BACK!!!! MUAHAHAHAA.. They used to blind me all the time. But seriously. I've read many times on here and other places that the silvia lights are very dim. Is there an alternative to HIDs with good light output? My nose cut came with triple projectors.

Only solution is to open the headlamps and flip the cutoff shields (which is far more complicated than I've made it sound). If you got the beams aimed to where they weren't flooding the oncoming lane with light, some good-quality bulbs would give you some good light. Projectors are better than reflectors when it comes to light output (with S13 Silvia face anyway).

[ROUGE180]

Only solution is to open the headlamps and flip the cutoff shields (which is far more complicated than I've made it sound). If you got the beams aimed to where they weren't flooding the oncoming lane with light, some good-quality bulbs would give you some good light. Projectors are better than reflectors when it comes to light output (with S13 Silvia face anyway).

Ahhhhh thank you Kevin-San:bow:. Yeah I don't want to have to do something super complicated. Well, we'll see what's the what when I get everything installed.

[beeracing s14]

sileighties not bad..as long you color it blue like Mako and sound like her, its all good.

[ThatGuy]

Fast backs should have pop-ups, very few can pull off the S13 Silvia front end well.
Coupes can have S13 Silvia front ends.
S14 front ends belong on S14s. The ONLY exception is Yuri's car.
S15 front ends belong on S15s or Integras at HIN.

:D

[xkamikazestormx]

i LOVE the silvia front end on the hatch. its personal preference. like other ppl said, too many ppl have unpainted front ends that makes the car look like shit.

this is my sil40 that got stolen this year.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/car%20pix/DSC00006.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/car%20pix/P1010392.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/car%20pix/P1010391.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/car%20pix/P1010404.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/car%20pix/P1010403.jpg

and my e46 retrofit
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/DSC00266.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/DSC00256.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/kamikazestorm420/DSC00272.jpg

[Future240]

if it's clean, painted, it can look right. I think the only conversions that look good are the sils on the coupes and the s13.5 since the lines match. all the rest s13.4, s14.5 (especially dislike this one) and the s15.3, yea not fans of those in the least bit

[lflkajfj12123]

xkamikazestormx (http://www.zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=14605)

lol i love how all the pictures you posted are just of the silvia face

and no entire shot to show hatch and sil face together haha

[muddafakka]

I prefer pop-ups personally but I can appreciate a Sil80 that was executed properly.

[Grendel]

I really like Nikeboy355's car, it's very clean imo. I think I saw a thread a while ago where he was selling it tho :(
http://nitinj.com/Images/240SX2/Buttonwillow%201107/IMG_3901.JPG
http://nitinj.com/Images/240SX2/S13forsale/3.jpg

[Ca_laurier]

I had a silvia front end on my hatch like...4 years ago. After I came to the conclusion that i should have just stayed with my pop ups

Sil front ends on hatchs can look sick but imo, most of the people who do it are jdm fan boy high school kids.

[MikeisNissan]

It actually seems like everyone hates Strawberry faces. Unless on a 15.. :( O well i like it.

[SimpleSexy180]

body lines are fine. its because its zilvia.

fool of tools. it looks perfectly fine. the PROBLEM is most of the time the car themselves dont look good.

BESIDES Yuri's old car :( and some other dude on zilvia with purple sparkle paint, forgot the guys username.

although in my OPINION ive always felt if you go sil80, do not put kouki tails.

[Tulok]

nikeboy's car looks soooooo good! I love the s13 face on any 13 chasis. I also like s14.5 and s13.5(sometimes)
but really, I think the sileighty looks great!

[drift freaq]

It actually seems like everyone hates Strawberry faces. Unless on a 15.. :( O well i like it.

No not all! Done right a S15 face on a S13 fastback looks way better than a S13 Silvia face (wrong body lines aka to square). S15 face body lines are actually design wise correct for the Fastback chassis. There is a reason Richard Tang aka JDM rice likes it(though I don't like his choice of bumpers) and I like it too! I don't agree with Kev(MrMeph) or Barry (Thatguy) thats ok they will get over it. :D

[gabe30]

silforty's are rarely done right in the states

[ayuaddict]

anything is rarely done right in the states.

[adictd2b00st]

hypocrites lol if you like it do it, alot of people on here can't form their own opinion so they jump onto bandwagons.....

[adrians_s13]

body lines are fine. its because its zilvia.

fool of tools. it looks perfectly fine. the PROBLEM is most of the time the car themselves dont look good.

BESIDES Yuri's old car :( and some other dude on zilvia with purple sparkle paint, forgot the guys username.

although in my OPINION ive always felt if you go sil80, do not put kouki tails.

you mean this guy?
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6007/s13ph6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1260/s16bv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8199/s18zs3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2901/s111qy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IMO... I kinda like sil-80/40s (whatever)... but ONLY with aero.... otherwise, it looks stupid stock. Same goes with strawberry face (actually I'm selective with the strawberry faced aeros... some look ok, some look horrible) and s14 faces... it all depends on aero.

s0apgun - xkamikazestormx only went sil front for the mere fact of retrofitting HID's, which couldn't have been done otherwise...

[mrmephistopheles]

There is a reason Richard Tang aka JDM rice likes it(though I don't like his choice of bumpers) and I like it too! I don't agree with Kev(MrMeph) or Barry (Thatguy) thats ok they will get over it. :D

Richard always had shitty bumpers (Bomex) because he got them for free (spppppponsor!!) as he knew they'd always be getting fucked up.

Also, I will NEVER get over it! I'll hold it against you forever, Dave! MUAHAHAHHAHA



Anyway. I liked 15 face on stuff before I went to Japan. After seeing 15 faces in their normal environments and not on Civics and S13s, I started to hate seeing them on anything else. That's just me though.

[ROUGE180]

http://nitinj.com/Images/240SX2/S13forsale/3.jpg

Thats the exact front bumper that I got. I like this car. Very simple, understated and clean. That's what Im doing with mine.

[Nachtmensch]

the whole sil-80 thing is like a hermaphrodite. they look good from one angle, until you figure out what is on the other side, not so much any more.

just look at the pictures in post #59, badass cars until you see the car in full.

http://www.jdm-garage.com/jdm/carsforsale/sil-eighty/3.jpg
http://www.jdm-garage.com/jdm/carsforsale/sil-eighty/DSC08595.jpg

[Firestorm]

if i were to crash my pop-ups, i'd seriously consider a sileighty conversion. i guess i'm not enough of an artist to see that "silvia front end lines don't flow on fastbacks". to me, that's a load of crap. i mean, silvia front end looks almost like a pignose, just without popups. besides, i think the boxy look of silvia front ends go pretty well with the rear bumper on 240s. but thats just me. and imo, if anything doesn't flow, it's S15 face on S13. it can look good if done right, i'm not saying it's ugly. it's just something i would never do to my 180.

oh and just for neg rep purposes, i think coupes with pop ups are ugly. onevias are just something that should've never been produced.

[exitspeed]

It was Fuji Speedway, not touge. I think I spent $100 on the whole front end?
The lamps were donated by yokotaS13 (Grant), the fenders and bumper support were in the trash somewhere, and I bought the hood because I couldn't find any anywhere.

It was far cheaper than buying more replacement 180sx stuff, and I didn't care enough about that car to want to spend money making it look GOOD.

Kevin, and everyone else, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that the intention of the swap in the first place in Japan?

People smashed their 180sx fronts. The Silvia front was cheaper, so it just made sense.


The whole 240 scene is just so trendy. That's why, in a way, I'm glad I don't live in Cali or somewhere where the scene is huge. Because people get jaded. And then they start hatin.

FN's are a perfect example. 5 years ago, they were the business. Because there were not a ton of nice size wheels for cheap. Everyone was on the FN tip. Fast forward to 2008 and FN's are treated like red headed step children.

Fuck the trends people. Do what you want to your car. Want some 18x12 -35 Works? Fine. Wants FN's? Fine. Want a Sil80? Fine. S15 front? Fine. SR, RB, 2JZ, LSx? FINE!

[CrimsonRockett]

Screw this.

I'm selling my hatch and picking up a COROLLA.

Not gonna follow trends anymore!

Oh wait...























:keke:

[omgjacki]

The pop-ups look much better on the fastbacks IMO. I've only seen one
sil-80 that I can honestly say I liked. But I can agree with most of you, if
you put the right kit on it you can make it flow well. As for the coupes, I
like both pop-ups and the Silvia front. I've never liked the pig nose,
though. I don't see what's so great about it. It kind of looks like an old
Trans Am to me.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Body lines don't match. The only conversion I'de consider for the 3door would be the r32 front end. Needs some fender apiller work but in the end it's the best fixed headlights for the 180. If you don't want to spend the money time then stick with the pop ups. Or consider getting the re amayiya (sp) type bumper with the pop ups all the way down but the cutoffs on the bumper for the lights. Doesn't look BAD in my opinion.

[HyperTek]

i have some pics of Benson's sileighty back in the day from a 2002-03 socal 240sx bbq.. brick headlights, zenki lip, wangan wing, and ssr mesh =p

looks real good

[Future240]

The pop-ups look much better on the fastbacks IMO. But I can agree with most of you, if you put the right kit on it you can make it flow well. As for the coupes, I like both pop-ups and the Silvia front. I've never liked the pig nose, though. I don't see what's so great about it. It kind of looks like an old Trans Am to me.

That pretty much sums it on there. Overall, I would prefer the s15 front end on the fast backs, and the sil on the coupes. Not cuz its JDM, personally i dont give a flying crap about that. I think done well they look good. I am jus not a fan of the popup's. It was cool back then, but now, IMO it juss looks dated, and the pig nose it juss ew. I did once see in a magazine ad, an all black coupe convertible with a s14 kouki conversion. It wasnt half bad, kinda like the idea of a convertible kouki

[HyperTek]

damm i cant find any pics of the OLD silver G-corp flash sileighty... sexiest car ever.. even if its older 5 years old

[ThatGuy]

http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/sil80/img/sil80_ph01.jpg
http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/sil80/img/sil80_ph02.jpg
Still not a complete fan, but it looks better with the "square-ish" rear over fenders.

This still looks better to me though.
http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/180_ts/img/180ts_ph01.jpg
http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/180_ts/img/180ts_ph10.jpg

As does this.
http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/s13/img/s13_ph01.jpg
http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/s13/img/s13_ph06.jpg

G-Corporation is nice. :bow:

[HyperTek]

thanks for posting.. i think the old sileighty was awesome, the old grey one but i cant find pics, i probably got em on my hard drive at home but no net anymore lol

[ROUGE180]

http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/sil80/img/sil80_ph01.jpg
http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/sil80/img/sil80_ph02.jpg
G-Corporation is nice. :bow:

Damn now thats sweet!!! Love that paint job and the wide body is really nice!!!

[hunter8411]

I used to always prefer the Sil front end on either coupes or Hatchbacks(even though I personally dont like the look of the hatchback). And at the begining of this thread I was thinking everyone was just hating because it is the "trendy" thing to do.

But honestly after looking at ALL the pictures of this thread, and ESPECIALLY Thatguy's post. I can honestly say that I never realized before how bad the Sil front end looked on hatches. The popups do look much better imo but only down, I still hate the way the look when they are actually on and up.

Of course this is all personal preference, and each person should do what they like the best.

[YoungGun]

Yeah I think the only thing that saved that g corporation sil-eighty was the boxy rear over fenders like the moderator said. But damn that silvia is NIIIICE.

[status:one]

I know it's irrelevant... but damn... that's a sick 180. MMmmmm

http://www.g-corporation.co.jp/product/aero/180_ts/img/180ts_ph10.jpg

[JVD]

People don't like them because they're ugly. Simple as that. Yuri's car didn't look cool. That black one looks ok, but it would have looked cooler if it was just a 180... or a Silvia. Shit just looks weird.

[omgjacki]

That pretty much sums it on there. Overall, I would prefer the s15 front end on the fast backs, and the sil on the coupes. Not cuz its JDM, personally i dont give a flying crap about that. I think done well they look good. I am jus not a fan of the popup's. It was cool back then, but now, IMO it juss looks dated, and the pig nose it juss ew. I did once see in a magazine ad, an all black coupe convertible with a s14 kouki conversion. It wasnt half bad, kinda like the idea of a convertible kouki


It was tha Falken tire ad. I have a picture of it on my wall. It's the cleanest thing ever.

[d*star180]

S13 front sileighty is ok in my book as long as the owner has style.

S15 front on anything thats not S15 is maaaaaaaaaaaad fucking gay to me. Super fanboy status. OMGZ STRAWBERRY FACE JDMZZZ.
Only S15 front sileighty ever that was cool was Original Signal Auto Komatsu car.

What i REALLY hate is S15 front on S14....ugh.

[nissanguy13]

I had a Silvia front end on my last hatch with the type x bumper. It looked okay, but I'll never do it again. Like said before the lines don't match up, plus the headlights are shitty. You have to put in an HID kit to be able to see where you are going at night. I regretted it as soon as I installed it, I'll never swap my front end out again.

[kyoru]

don't really care, but in comparison the silvia lights look better with the coupe tail lights instead of the hatch tail-lights, I think that is why people dislike the sil-80.

[jeeper_x]

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2927/03302008107jpg2lg6.jpg

who gives a fuck if anyone likes it or not?

i owned 3 of them and still in love with this one!!!

(a work in progress)

personally i think it looks great when it done rite....

:p :p :p

[s13poop]

http://totfc.net/tenshi/sileighty.jpg

when i first saw it i was personally amazed by it since i thought it was the best of both worlds

and i loved the color scheme/ aero bumper

in person its alot harder to pull off but as stated before it looks better with aero than stock, you can't put the front end on and just call it a day with this one

i always liked silvia face on coupes and not pop ups and i thought thats what made the hatches special and nothing looks meaner like that flash 180sx barry posted above

but what it comes down to just like any conversion it has to be done right..

[steve shadows]

body lines don't flow

square headlights are weak

and its total fanboy initial d status

i'm sure people who changed to sil front back then only did it because aids is cheap

Driving anything "jdm" is fanboi initial D, frankly

Unless it's OEM other than wheels your a jdm fanboi.

I pesonally didnt know there was a sil-80 in a game called initial D but thanks for the info now.

personally I did sil-80 because I needed a front end with a small cross section that wouldnt blow off my car over 150 mph and that was not as expensive as an s15 front end (plus that looks rediculous also)

arguing about what S-chasis looks better (especially s13) is like arguing which transvestite could be hotter if you were drunk.

People who say the s13's lines don't match up? The S13 has lines? lol

You guys are talking about these cars like they are ferraris, not 1000 dollar usdm shit boxes

[ThatGuy]

Some of us are actually fans of these cars, Steve. We don't just treat them like "$1000 shit boxes" that we can just buy/find another one of if we feel like it.

If you can't understand that, then that's your problem.

[exitspeed]

^
True dat.

I love my 240. I don't ever plan on selling mine. Even when I move on to other cars, I still plan on keeping my coupe. I just love these damn cars.

Granted I haven't built one like Steve has, but I still love 240's as much as the day I got my first one.

[CrimsonRockett]

^That's what seperates us from the fan boys.

Passion for what we do.

[origin_s135]

^^^
seriously, i love my 240sx[i don't care if it's a s13.5 i chose that from the start when i seen komatsu's blue one], i have spent so much money into what it is looking like today. i was so close to selling it for a q45, but when i warmed it up and drove it around the block, i fell in love all over again. so i'll just save up for a Q so i can also have my 240sx. also we all have our own taste in our own cars. like most, some people think supermade aero is the shit, but to me i think it looks like complete shit. the only thing i like about super made is the gentlemen exhaust; it's all on personal taste.

[status:one]

It's all about personal preference.

/thread.

[Antihero983]

i agree with ThatGuy.

but to add to this thread, let me just say, the 280Z front conversion that has been done a couple times is beautiful.

and wtf is up with S chassis owners and clear rice altezza tails all of a sudden? the black ones dont look bad, but the clear ones look like an ex civic owner got ahold of a nissan....

[CrimsonRockett]

Exactly. Build the car to your liking.

If you like having your car multi-colored, fine.

Looks like shit, but if you're satisfied with that...cool.

Don't build a car to please others.

Build it and enjoy it.

If you're not happy with it, rebuild it.

I have zero intentions of selling my hatch.

If anything, once I pick up a new car, this one is going to be parked and driven on the weekends only.

I'd love to see my future son driving the living shit out of it.

Like father, like son.

[SimpleSexy180]

and wtf is up with S chassis owners and clear rice altezza tails all of a sudden? the black ones dont look bad, but the clear ones look like an ex civic owner got ahold of a nissan....

ive been wondering the same. its NOT COOL because its on a drift car :keke:

[iluvpandas4]

personally i've never liked the silvia front end, not even on the s13 silvia. but i don't mind front ends put on other cars as long as its done right and they make it flow. but i agree, silvia front ends don't flow well with the hatchback and i love chuki pop-ups too much to ever convert my coupe to anything.

pop-ups = love

[ericcastro]

But seriously the reason why I hate it is that it's a square front with round rear.
Just doesn't flow right.
Also kit is very important on how it all ties in together with the line.

body lines dont match up...looks dumb imo

Totally agree.

The Sil-80 looks like the down syndrome version of a 240. Like a 240 and coupe inbred and had a large forheaded hatch!!


I really miss my old Sileighty.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/ID22.jpg



http://www.jdm-garage.com/jdm/carsforsale/sil-eighty/3.jpg



You notive both the cars that "pull it off" have more going on than the natural curves and lines.

Yuri used a wangan wing to loose the distinctive curve of the hatch. squareing the rear up like that helps. plus the black hood and hatch hide alot of the curve of the car, allowing him to pull it off. (nice forthought Yuri, guess thtas why you design for a living :))

the black car also uses a wing. But the wing doesnt square it enough like a wangan, so a very agressive kit was used to square the back. And black paint hides the curves once again.


Silvia fronts for cuopes, pop ups for hatches.

or your cars gonna look Mongo in everyones eyes. and who cares what everyone thinks right??? but i still dont wanna walk around with a piece of toilet paper hanging off my shoe and a cowboy hat hanging out the back of my pants.

JUST MY OPINION ;)

[SHIFT_*grind*]

Vote #1,890,466 for body lines not matching up. But whatever, do what you want. I like pie.

[steve shadows]

For me a small cross section is going to cut down on drag on the front of the car. and in the case of a silvia fr end it was cheap and easy

If it becomes track only I'm going to replace the headlamps with giant air plows for the turbo inlet and to cool the oil/pwrst cooler anyways

[omgjacki]

Okay... I don't understand why everything ends in a big argument. For real, it's whatever that person prefers, or personally thinks is better looking.

Yes, the s13 has body lines. You know, like the lines that go from the font of the car to the back, or how a coupe is square and a hatch is round. Chill out about it. It's not that serious. It's not like you're gonna ge a giant bonus when your opinion wins. Shut up it's whatever you want to do. No one else should have a say in your opinion. That's just dumb.

Lame.

[nissanguy13]

^^^^^
Someone forgot to take their midol today :keke:

[ericcastro]

^ I know. the OP asked. so we are sharing our opinions and reasons. Its not like this thread materialized out of nowhere.
We are just trying to lay the argument out there for the OP and people searching in the future. Now they can make the proper astetic choice, and never go with a SIL80. Unless theres a reason, like actually in Japan, or like steve shadows.

[gabe30]

well i think silforty's look like shit without aero. like complete shit
not like "oh hey, your hair looks like shit"-kind of shit but the kind like
"oh man, you're kid is retarded and got fucked up. he looks like shit" -kind of shit.


and even at that, that isnt half the battle towards making one look decent.

[whereda40at]

I wanna do it only because my pop up lights dont work.
i second that one.:rawk:

[SochBAT]

No not all! Done right a S15 face on a S13 fastback looks way better than a S13 Silvia face.

Yoshi comes to mind.

Silvia faces on FB's look like sharks. Sharks that are made of ugly leftover sharks they had in contraception.

Again, body lines. Sleek lines with popups.

[gunmetalrps]

not much of guy that talks any more than i have to but sil80 should only be done with the aero and chuki sides.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/2529978127_337b4a56f4.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/2529978071_5ae59267d2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2530794690_20e4a7fd5c.jpg

anything else needs a car cover so no one sees it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2530794828_9794e76179.jpg

[adrians_s13]

is it just me or do sil80s kinda resemble a 2 door a31 cefiro? :loco:

[jeeper_x]

^^

you're not making sense rite now...

if the cefiro was 2 doors, then it would look just like a normal silvia except wider....

[SHIFT_*grind*]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/2529978127_337b4a56f4.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/2529978071_5ae59267d2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2530794690_20e4a7fd5c.jpg

Definitely hot. Although, hot as it may be...it would be hotter as a coupe*. :D




*or a vert...

[axiomatik]

eh, for me it's not about 'square' verses 'rounded', it's about proportion. the back end of the hatch is pretty chunky compared to the coupe, and whenever i see a sil-80, the whole front end looks too small relative to the rest of the body. with the right aero, the longer popup front end better balances the visual mass of the rear. On coupes, it's the opposite for me. the front overhang of popups with aero seems excessively long relative the the size of the rest of the car.

but in the end, it's still all personal preference. I think s14.5 look like total ass, and have yet to see a single one that I thought looked decent. but I do think the s15 front end can look good on s13's (both coupe and hatch) if done right. unfortunately, most are not done right.

[SimpleSexy180]

uhhh yeah sil80 looks better than 60% of new cars out there.

[ericcastro]

^ None of those shots show the hatch !!!!!So of course it looks nice, cause it looks like a coupe :duh:
Sooooo, how hot is this one here........




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2530794828_9794e76179.jpg
........oh, .....not so hot :werd:

the op should have made a Sil 80 Hot OR Not vote on this thread !!!


Oh well, It just helps my beat up 89 pop up look better by comparison.

[kensreliableb18b]

man, some of you guys are so passionate about this issue. some look good, some look bad, just like every other car in the world. do as you please.

[240trainee]

Definitely hot. Although, hot as it may be...it would be hotter as a coupe*. :D


Just what I thought when I saw it.

[status:one]

I can't really find anything wrong with this one...

http://i15.tinypic.com/5219zt4.jpg

[stiizy]

Dont know whose this is but i think it's clean hope owner doesn't get mad..

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/512563644_934769ea0d.jpg?v=0

[ThatGuy]

Shiatsu, once again though, it takes modification of the back of the car to allow it to flow a little better.

[Future240]

Shiatsu, once again though, it takes modification of the back of the car to allow it to flow a little better.

i agree, the sils on the hatches juss dont flow, if he squared the rear out more, it might flow better.

[status:one]

Shiatsu, once again though, it takes modification of the back of the car to allow it to flow a little better.

I completely agree.

[SimpleSexy180]

i see no evidence of rear being modified on that black sil80 besides a roll?

[ThatGuy]

Then you need to look closer. That's not a roll, it's a molded widefender. :D

[origin_s135]

Yoshi comes to mind.

Silvia faces on FB's look like sharks. Sharks that are made of ugly leftover sharks they had in contraception.

Again, body lines. Sleek lines with popups.

haha. does my car look like a shark? i think it kind of resembles a manaray or someshit.
http://a773.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_ad3302c4c6cd8e8e7429a2b6b7cfeb94.jpg
sharkfin soup is the bomb btw.

[Antihero983]

eh dont get me started on the abortion that is a s13.5....no offence man, but ive been against them since day one.


datsun front conversions FTW.

[origin_s135]

eh dont get me started on the abortion that is a s13.5....no offence man, but ive been against them since day one.


datsun front conversions FTW.

this comes into mind.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/meteoriteflo/z80.jpg

[Future240]

haha. does my car look like a shark? i think it kind of resembles a manaray or someshit.
http://a773.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_ad3302c4c6cd8e8e7429a2b6b7cfeb94.jpg
sharkfin soup is the bomb btw.

i actually like these, s14.5 how ever is a no go

[KiLLeR2001]

You know what looks good? Popups on an S15. Yeah that's right.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3421/upg0012dm.jpg

And people who say the S15 front doesn't flow on the s13 hatchbacks are in denial...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/steve97s14/DSC_6296.jpg

http://gallery.azzido.no/albums/S13-5-Silvia/s13_silvia_11.sized.jpg

[Pank]

at least post the cool one:

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2510/one15rq1.jpg

[ThatGuy]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/steve97s14/DSC_6296.jpg

http://gallery.azzido.no/albums/S13-5-Silvia/s13_silvia_11.sized.jpg

Yet again...

You have to modify the rear of the Hatchback for it look right with anything besides the stock pop-ups.

Both of those cars have wide fenders which make the body line more defined and allow for a more aggressive front end.

[BBSilvia]

nothing wrong with the sil-80 had one myself, i am back to pop-ups but thats just cause i got bored of the look needed a change
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8438/silllllllllll80um8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8438/silllllllllll80um8.2a51b27656.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=252&i=silllllllllll80um8.jpg)

[Antihero983]

this comes into mind.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/meteoriteflo/z80.jpg

i neeeeeeeeed that kit!

[MikeisNissan]

^ got that right!

[AFSil80]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/boostbeef/Photoshoot/Picture069.jpg

After reading all the hate in this thread, I hope mine at least gets labeled as being clean, haha. I couldn't stand the car being something other than one color...no kouki tails...I got a 180SX centerpiece, but refuse to put it in b/c I still have 240SX quarter windows...

I don't hate pop ups, I just love the Silvia front end and love my fastbacks. I dunno why, but I love the Sileighty appearance. I don't care about the 'drifting lore' behind how it was created, or that it's been done 11tybillion times...guess what...that's the story for any 240SX. Can't be original with these cars anymore, so find something you like and stick to that plan. :) I did and I'm happy with how this car has turned out so far.

EDIT: The only things I feel that I have yet to do to the outside is a small wangan wing, and OEM Silvia side skirts. I've already got the 180SX rear skirts, but I don't wanna put those on w/out the side skirts of course. So for now it's the stock wing (yay, no rust) and the pignose lip.

[nissanguy13]

I agree with Barry, all the hatches with s13 and s15 Silvia fronts look good only if they have been squared off in the back and have wider fenders. It's not that they look bad on the hatch, they are just usually done wrong....way wrong. I don't hate on the front ends I just like the pop up look better on the hatch. (Unless the car is done wrong and looks like ass.)

And I know someone else said it but, I can't stand that stock Silvia bumper on anything, including a Silvia.

[stiizy]

at least post the cool one:

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2510/one15rq1.jpg

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=335&stc=1&d=1048971107

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=336&stc=1&d=1048971172

now thats hot!!

[mkiv98]

god id hate to own half of these cars simply because theyre just asking to get stolen!

but if i were to crash my car, id do a s13.4 with the kouki front. i think that looks good on a hatch and its not as common.

i dont see why people hate on the s13.5...maybe because most of the time it is not done right?

[Pank]

big swoopy angular bubbly (fairly agressive, stock) front, with a reserved boring back end. just doesnt match up in peoples eyes.

[phosho510]

I don't know but i still like the looks of the sil-80. i guess it really is personal prefrence. its not for everyone.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g236/albeezy_510/fc363b56.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g236/albeezy_510/fc363b46.jpg

[DrifterPaw]

It should look sweet man just do it. It be different to see in the MD area. Remember Steve had a sil80 before the coupe he has now and it looked good.

[junn]

hey man...i was in the same position like 2 years ago...i got a deal on a silvia front clip...and said what the hell ima throw on the frontend and i never looked back...i love how it gave it a more agressive look and also who has a silvia frontend these days...not many...so my opinion is why not...just do it...plus sounds like your getting a deal...

[HyperTek]

oldskool socal peeps know this one
Benson's Gride back in 02
http://i26.tinypic.com/2wq92zs.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/ejsao6.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/24w6ikz.jpg
Probably the first person in teh states to do a sileighty

Pics ive had over 5 years on my hd
http://i26.tinypic.com/pc3rc.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/29mp1xf.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/302z4f6.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/2q2haa1.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2zpnoe8.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/eho1s.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/2lwx6r8.jpg

[SexPanda]

I put a silvia front end on my car because I rear ended some chick in a parkinglot... Well she backed into me, but I basically rear ended her.

Anyhow, i got my silvia front end for 600 bucks. The OE parts used were gonna run me back 1200.

Monetary reason. And after that, EVERYONE in town knew that car was mine. Theyre not too common round these here parts, tell you what boy.

[HyperTek]

yet some more old pics
http://i26.tinypic.com/vwrjpt.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/rj18jc.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/m7uxx3.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/121ud7n.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/15cya0l.jpg

some different sileightys
http://i28.tinypic.com/t0gl6c.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/34dsqhz.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/19mfxu.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2iifyc2.jpg

[HyperTek]

http://i30.tinypic.com/2n0v8ly.jpg

I like skyeightys
http://i28.tinypic.com/o075ly.jpg

[HyperTek]

some moooooooor
http://i31.tinypic.com/27y022u.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/21ompns.jpg

I wanna see some R13s tho
http://i31.tinypic.com/33emwso.jpg

[Matej]

Pop-pop-pop.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/suberi_rps13/Cars/s143-1.jpg

No offense to anyone, but to me conversions seem like an unnecessary waste of money just to make your car weird. The only ones I don't mind are interchanging between Zenki and Kouki on the S14, and converting S13 Silvia to Onevia.

[lflkajfj12123]

my eyes are bleeding thanks to this thread

[BOROSUN]

http://cartown.jp/coms/647/img640/1166943805093489.jpg
http://cartown.jp/coms/647/img640/1166943742310230.jpg
http://cartown.jp/coms/647/img640/1166943753608532.jpg
http://cartown.jp/coms/647/img640/1166943761862945.jpg

[HyperTek]

from what friends told me, they have spotted somebody out here in riverside who did that front end swap at the local community college..

there was also a guy who did the 280zx front swap to a s13 coupe that used to hit up the tracks out here.. i remember his sn was lovemuffin or something.

The Tuning Experts at NICO have written a conversion guide
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=172730&page=1

lmao

[Antihero983]

^i love how they just mentioned the kouki s14 and not the zenki.

[Full-Lock]

the only sil80 i have ever seen that is cool is that white one from the asb4 pictures.
does anyone know which one im talking about?

but that silver one that hypertek posted is pretty cool

[g6civcx]

the only sil80 i have ever seen that is cool

What happened to doing the swap out of necessity because the front end was cheaper and more readily available than a 180SX front end?

[theronin]

i like the sil-80's no hate towards them. its funny that people say the body lines dont go together due to the square front and rounded back, yet has anyone taken a glance at a Kouki S14 lately? same thing. yet again only proves that Zenki > All. have a good day.

[Jordn]

On the flip side - onevia or silvia? Reason I ask is I'm hugely torn between keeping my coupe a Silvia or throwing pop-ups on the front. One-vias are really rare in the UK, even more than Silvias.

[ROUGE180]

Thanks for all the pics HyperTek. A lot of them look really nice done the right way. I just need to put it on. It's sitting in my living room lol.

Jordn: Keep in Onevia unless you can find an aero bumper.

[FRpilot]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/boostbeef/Photoshoot/Picture069.jpg

After reading all the hate in this thread, I hope mine at least gets labeled as being clean, haha.

i think your car will look cleaner, w/o the saggy lip and if you slam it a bit more.

[HyperTek]

I like them done right =p

and i like afsil80's ride... looks clean, reminds me of the early 2000 scene before everyone started slammin the shit out of everything =p

[ZForce]

I love the look. I always wanted to finish off a hatch like that.

[azndoc]

Danny (driftingpanda) has the best sil 80 stateside. Hands down.

And I hate sil 80s, but I love his. Done perfect with the squareish rear overs to match the square front.


http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll178/janetstuff/All%20Star%20Bash%204/_40.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll178/janetstuff/All%20Star%20Bash%204/_40.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll178/janetstuff/All%20Star%20Bash%204/_59.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll178/janetstuff/All%20Star%20Bash%204/_72.jpg

Done and done.

[HyperTek]

pretty cool.. i just cant imagine that or all these drift cars being daily driven.. just too extreme for the street that you would never fully enjoy driving it out

[Jordn]

Jordn: Keep in Onevia unless you can find an aero bumper.

Its Silvia at the moment and I have an aero bumper. Problem is all the agreesive kits like URAS/Origin Aggressive look crap on the Sil front end and but look nice on the 180 front.:confused:

[ROUGE180]

Its Silvia at the moment and I have an aero bumper. Problem is all the agreesive kits like URAS/Origin Aggressive look crap on the Sil front end and but look nice on the 180 front.:confused:

Ahhh gotcha.. well if you have the Aero front, I would get a Charge Speed lip, sides and rear bumper or something clean along those lines.

[Jdm_of_miami]

The only reason I don't like sil80 is becuase people claim it's a Nissan made car which in reality is not. Show me a service manual from Nissan that says SIL80 and I'd belive you. But people come up to me asking me if I can get them a SIL80 and how rare they are in Japan. THEY DON'T EXCIST IT'S A MADE UP CAR!!!!:loco:

[raz0rbladez909]

from what i remember is that there were 500 sileightys sold through a partnership by nissan and a shop call kids automotive and sold through some nissan dealerships, as to profit off the growing trend of "drifters" doing the conversion themselves. so to say you don't like them because it wasn't a real car from nissan would be incorrect as well as i have in fact seen a manual for sale along time ago on yahoo.jp auctions. i modeled mine off of what i had researched in that it basically was a 98 180sx that they just changed the badging and the front ends had the aero bumper and brick headlights, no finished pics but i sold her to my friend about a 2 years ago but it was pretty much just like this gt4 one but with 17" emotion xd9's
http://homepage.mac.com/streetmover/GT4/gt4pic042.jpg

[raz0rbladez909]

correction the shop was actually kids heart read the faq, on second thought i linked it http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=25983&referrerid=9960

[driftingpanda]

Danny (driftingpanda) has the best sil 80 stateside. Hands down.

And I hate sil 80s, but I love his. Done perfect with the squareish rear overs to match the square front.


http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll178/janetstuff/All%20Star%20Bash%204/_59.jpg

Done and done.

That's not a sil80, that's a FORD MUSTANG. Sil80's are horrible. Do not want. But thanks for the kind words anyway Jack!

I think people dislike sil80's simply because the car really clashes in style. 180's work because it's pointy sharp in the front and rounded in the back, like a drop of water. Silvias work because it's an 80's brick. A sil80 is like a square front with a round rear... like... nothing organic. I kinda tried to get around this by using the gtr style flared rear fenders, along with the bubbly front bumper and the chargespeed hood (which has a bubbly/rounded vent). Even then, it still looks kinda "wrong".

But then again style is subjective. I don't think anybody REALLY cares if sil80's were sold by the dealerships or not. Just because they were sold in a dealership doesn't mean that they're not ugly.

-danny

EDIT:
http://i26.tinypic.com/2wq92zs.jpg
Now THAT is the only cool sil80 PICTURE posted so far. Mainly because that picture was taken 6 years ago, back when sil80's were still considered "cool". Benson is probably one of the main reasons why I've had a silvia face for the past 6 years also... not to mention all my ssr mesh wheels...

[HyperTek]

thats before alll the silly super slam stupid camber gotta have a bodykit and be like all the drifters craze blew up lol

[EDacIouSX]

yup, body lines do not match up on sil 80...

it's just like the s14.5, Body Lines DO NOT MATCH UP on s14.5s


ever look at a s14.5 from the front? looks good. ever look at it from the side? Looks like SHIT

[sidewaysil80]

well i've ALWAYS had and been a huge fan of sil80's. maybe because its not as common but i dig it. i will say i only think they look good with a widebody though...heres my pos:

http://a772.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/16/l_b2aade1d04a82e129e2c9f0cab409c9b.jpg
http://a307.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/l_77659808fb4782b5d81043410990990a.jpg

[ROUGE180]

well i've ALWAYS had and been a huge fan of sil80's. maybe because its not as common but i dig it. i will say i only think they look good with a widebody though...heres my pos:

http://a772.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/16/l_b2aade1d04a82e129e2c9f0cab409c9b.jpg
http://a307.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/l_77659808fb4782b5d81043410990990a.jpg

Damn that shit is hot!!. I like widebody aswell. Great color too. What kind of kit is that?

[sidewaysil80]

bmagic everything/seibon hood/shitty vis racing (only place without importing i could find the style i wanted) front fenders/bmagic rear fender. the color is daytona blue off the 350's but it's getting painted by the end of the month. i'm going to a panda look. everything black will stay black and everything blue will go to a glossy white with blue/pink flake.

[DreEzed]

I'm thinking of goin sil80 as of today. Just rear ended a pickup truck and seems like most of the damage was done to the exterior and depending how it turns out if I can get a cheap silvia front end . I'd rather do that instead.
I personally like Sileighty's with an aggressive body kit.

[Arce_GTR]

i like'em just as long u have the right paint and lights u have like the briks. like the red one u see

[sileighty83]

u bet your ass u twitch LOL.

haters yo...haters ;)


Body lines don't match

Honestly i hate them from association. Ive seen so many shit box fastbacks with sil-80 fronts just for the sake of jdm styling. I hate hearing new owners talk about putting a sil front on their car as the first step. I mean i understand people do different things with their cars. I guess its a reflection of the fanboy honda thinking and the fact that its translating over towards what was more of an enthusiast based platform. I swear any owner who does a sil front and rhd conversion before anything else is just agggggg. But yeah whatever gets you going. Its lighter than a popup front end. But this is just my biased opinions i have friends with sil-80's i dont hate them i just twitch when i see their cars.

[Chuki91]

Sileighty's are okey, just depends if people can really pull them off right. which is a rarity! but everyone has their own opinion.