SR is in time Right? See pic's

[MrFairlady]

Ok..had another thread but i guess it died - Pulled the valve Cover and Lined it up @ TDC..now looking at The CAS (mine I don't think has the Paint dot) and I think its In time.I haven't pulled it out yet and don't want to if I don't have to.
My timing chain also only has 1 dark Link not 2 like FRsport states.

You tell me.My plugs are white and I have to run the CAS turned Fully toward the Windshield....the car runs Great though.Anything other than that the car will hardly accell.
pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Mrfairlady/IMG_1919.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Mrfairlady/IMG_1924.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Mrfairlady/IMG_1923.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Mrfairlady/IMG_1915.jpg
I could be wrong but from What I see...it looks to be IN TIME...or do all CAS have that orange Paint dot.Redtop gen 2 SR BTW.Stock everything except HKSbov and intake filter.
lemme know

[Sileighty_85]

your cams and CAS are lined up correctly

if you pull the CAS and are installing it again ther are two dots on the shaft,
right dot is where you line up the notch on the body.

When installed correctly if cams are in correct position, the left dot will line up on the notch when installed

[MrFairlady]

Damnit! I thought so.

well...wonder why my car has to run w/ the cas fully turned toward the Windshield to drive FINE.
*idle is Great when set up Either way...just won't accel.
Already tried Timing w/ the gun (basic Gun w/ no advance)...but when its Fully in time w/ the timing gun it runs like chit!have to turn it right back.

[Sileighty_85]

See if your ECU is throwing any codes.
Maybe you got a bad sensor

check for Vac. Leaks too

[bardabe]

vac / boost leaks, Bad knock sensor can cause you to pull timing as well as a bad Tem sensor

[MrFairlady]

Well...check this thread then.If its Fully in Mech Timing (has been then) and now checking the CAS is lined up - when I timed it w/ the gun it runs like Shit.

Crazy:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=192790

BTW: White plugs is running Lean...does that mean they are Ruined?? Or can still be used?

[clark]

where are you connecting the timing gun pickup to? are you connecting it to the loop behind the head on the coilpack harness? i hope not, because i've had terrible luck timing that way.

i connect an old spark plug wire to cly 1 and connect the coilpack to that, THEN connect the timing gun lead to that sparkplug wire, works fantastic. my timing is so perfect.

do it that way.

[MrFairlady]

Ok..I just remembered something...My CAS was still Fully advanced (twisted toward the windshield) when I just checked it (pic's above).
Now,...Spinning the CAS back to the "middle" of its range Right now w/ my valave cover already back on...will that move it out of time/spin the Shaft to make it "out"...or does it only control the Electrode inside the Sensor Only??
Just thought about that.

[MrFairlady]

where are you connecting the timing gun pickup to? are you connecting it to the loop behind the head on the coilpack harness? i hope not, because i've had terrible luck timing that way.

i connect an old spark plug wire to cly 1 and connect the coilpack to that, THEN connect the timing gun lead to that sparkplug wire, works fantastic. my timing is so perfect.

do it that way.

Yes...I've read of course Mixed reviews about doing that..some it worked some it changed each time the moved the Connector.

can you by chance Draw me a M/S paint of what your talking about w/ the spark plug wire thing?? I've heard of that but not sure how to try it.

[KiLLeR2001]

Your CAS might be one tooth off, if you look closely at your pic vs the FR Sport pic you can see what I mean...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Mrfairlady/IMG_1923.jpg

vs

http://www.frsport.com/writeups/srcas2.jpg

Whats funny is my car is having this exact same problem... I have to have my CAS all the way advanced for it to run its best, but still seems to not pickup as quick as it should. I should probably crack open the valve cover and see whats going on...

[KiLLeR2001]

Don't mean to hijack this thread but I've taken my valve cover off and my CAS looks similar to yours (looks off by one tooth)... Right now im trying to hand crank over the engine to TDC but for some reason ITS WAY HARDER to do than the last time I did it before I ever started my engine, is this due to the oil pressure or what? I really am having a hard time turning this bad boy over. (Its like the valve springs are kicking my ass)

[Sileighty_85]

Don't mean to hijack this thread but I've taken my valve cover off and my CAS looks similar to yours (looks off by one tooth)... Right now im trying to hand crank over the engine to TDC but for some reason ITS WAY HARDER to do than the last time I did it before I ever started my engine, is this due to the oil pressure or what? I really am having a hard time turning this bad boy over. (Its like the valve springs are kicking my ass)
did ya pull out your spark plugs?

[MrFairlady]

did ya pull out your spark plugs?
hahaha damn...neither did i.But it spun ok.A little harder on some spots.

well in the Pic..They line up...but what part of the CAS do you spin...the part w/ the notched part...or obiously the DOT part.

on my car though..which I asked a few posts up....My CAS is Fully Advanced (maybe FRsport did not) would that have anything to do w/ it.

When you spin the CAS..what exactly does it do:
Ok..I just remembered something...My CAS was still Fully advanced (twisted toward the windshield) when I just checked it (pic's above).
Now,...Spinning the CAS back to the "middle" of its range Right now w/ my valave cover already back on...will that move it out of time/spin the Shaft to make it "out"...or does it only control the Electrode inside the Sensor Only??
Just thought about that.

[sr20det drift]

exactly what i was thinking. ha

[cincyse_ryan]

thats exactly what i was thinking ^

i just got my motor together and am at this process now..
from each pin on the cam gears how many pins on the chain should be in between them?? im thinking its 20.

and does the chain tensioner work off of oil pressure??? when i manually crank it... about every 180 degree turn my chain gets slack.

[Sileighty_85]

hahaha damn...neither did i.But it spun ok.A little harder on some spots.

well in the Pic..They line up...but what part of the CAS do you spin...the part w/ the notched part...or obiously the DOT part.

on my car though..which I asked a few posts up....My CAS is Fully Advanced (maybe FRsport did not) would that have anything to do w/ it.

When you spin the CAS..what exactly does it do:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i235/Neil_85/CAS.jpg

the CAS tells your injectors when to fire

and does the chain tensioner work off of oil pressure??? when i manually crank it... about every 180 degree turn my chain gets slack.

It will tighten up when you fire the eninge up

[KiLLeR2001]

Yes I pulled the sparkies out, but now I'm thinking my CAS is ok because when it was centered at TDC (when I did this before) it looked like the FRSport pic... But as of right now its all the way advanced and looks pretty much like MrFairlady's pic, actually I'd say its a damn near replica lol ;)

[MrFairlady]

So question still is...When Spinning/adjusting the cas MOUNTED..does anything actually Spin on the CAM or inside or does it just adjust electronically inside the actual CAS.

The pic on FRspot has a Straighter Angle.mines a tad to the side in comparison to it.
My CAS does not have any Colored Dot though.

[Sileighty_85]

it ajdusts the housing around the disk inside
not it doesnt affect the rotation of the cam

they may not be colors but there should be 2 dots

just look and the FSM i posted it will be obivious

[MrFairlady]

looking at the 2 pic's side by side..he's right.Mine does look a tad off.
Granted the dots line up but there is a round CIRCLE indented in thick part of the CAS that is Diff from pic to pic.

Wonder Since I've already put the V/C back on and sealed it all up if I could juist pull the cas...twist it just a tad or 1 click to the left - and pop it back in since I know my car is still TDC (haven't cranked it yet)???

Would that work ya think??

[KiLLeR2001]

Stabbing the CAS blindly is risky business, I wouldn't recommend it at all.