How do you guys feel about...?

[LA_phantom_240]

What do you guys think about the Scion tC? Reason I ask is that though I really love my s14, you all know as well as I do that 240's don't make the most practical DD/Only car for a young guy (I'm 20). I have less and less time to work on my 240, and parts are becoming more and more expensive the more I mod it... but isn't that usually how it works? lol. I really like the Scion tC's style, pep, and best of all, it has warranty. I'm thinking of selling my s14 once I swap out the motor and suspension, and using that money as a down payment on a tC. What do you guys think? I won't be leaving the 240 game for good though, just taking a break til I can get the space and time to have a project car.

[ESmorz]

Unless you have a vagina you are not to drive a Tc...

[LA_phantom_240]

Unless you have a vagina you are not to drive a Tc...

Then what would you suggest? Mind you, I'm NOT gonna get a domestic. Fuck that.

[nevaland9]

man...if you wernt a premie id neg rep you for that one...

tCs suck...the interior is super cheap feeling, that gay pleather moon roof cover is tacky & they're just girl cars...sit outside a gay club one nite and look at guys as they drive away in their scions, if you envy them i suggest a change in life style..if you fall asleep laughing then you know its not meant to be. and last time i checked 240s get pretty good gas mileage.

good luck

[LA_phantom_240]

man...if you wernt a premie id neg rep you for that one...

tCs suck...the interior is super cheap feeling, that gay pleather moon roof cover is tacky & they're just girl cars...sit outside a gay club one nite and look at guys as they drive away in their scions, if you envy them i suggest a change in life style..if you fall asleep laughing then you know its not meant to be. and last time i checked 240s get pretty good gas mileage.

good luck
Yeah, with a bad headgasket I'm getting 26mpg pure city. Gas isn't the issue. 240's cost a SHIT TON to maintain, and having so much potential, they beg you to drop money into them. So in essence, I want to get rid of it to stop the urge to drop money into it.

[worangejuice]

yeah, most people who drive scion tc's think they're the stupid shit of the town. Really, take a second look at them.
So get a Scion xb those are at least cooler and people who drive them are usually chill. Plus you can haul all you're homies around.

[LA_phantom_240]

yeah, most people who drive scion tc's think they're the stupid shit of the town. Really, take a second look at them.
So get a Scion xb those are at least cooler and people who drive them are usually chill. Plus you can haul all you're homies around.

I'm not a taxi... but yeah, I like the xB as well.

[VROOOM]

try a mazdaspeed3, i just bought one and love it

[eastcoastS14]

new civic si? older wrx, 350z, acura tsx/tl

[lflkajfj12123]

honda fit

end thread.

[Baka Sama]

Why the need to go buy a brand new car? I really dont understand spending all that money just on a dd when you say it cost to much to maintain the 240.

Tc's are a waste. Buy a late 90's/early 00's corolla or civic for half the price.

Or even better, sell the 240sx and buy a used 350z for 15k.

[LA_phantom_240]

try a mazdaspeed3, i just bought one and love it

I don't do Mazda. New civic = expensive. I'm 20. I don't make shit tons of money lol. I thought about the Fit, but then again, its a faggoty paddle shifter. WRX's are also expensive to maintain. Corolla isn't out of the question, but definitely not near the top of the list. Civic? Quite a possibility. Oh, and I didn't say it had to be brand new.

Reason I want a newer car is 1) warranty for a few years. 2) its not from the fucking 90's.

[eastcoastS14]

I have been scoping out 2004 TLs....try and get around 5k for my car and then pick up one of those but idk....sucks being in school tho 11 or 12k loan would probably be a dumb move at this point...

[LA_phantom_240]

I have been scoping out 2004 TLs....try and get around 5k for my car and then pick up one of those but idk....sucks being in school tho 11 or 12k loan would probably be a dumb move at this point...

Yeah really.

[S14DB]

It's a 2 door Camry

[Dousan_PG]

i really like the HONDA FITs for a daily. sweet car
my buddies gf has one. its raelly nice.

[KiLLeR2001]

I thought we all agreed that FWD is not cool. NOT COOL.

[LA_phantom_240]

I thought we all agreed that FWD is not cool. NOT COOL.

True. But um... correct me if I'm wrong, but if you can't afford a certain kind of car, you get rid of it in lieu of something more affordable and practical? Right?

[KiLLeR2001]

You should be able to afford a 240sx. Don't mod it, just keep it in its stock form and keep the maintenance up. Done and done.

[LA_phantom_240]

You should be able to afford a 240sx. Don't mod it, just keep it in its stock form and keep the maintenance up. Done and done.

Gay. If you have a 240sx, you can't resist modding it. And my s14 is 14 years old. Cars don't last forever.

[kdashy]

I thought we all agreed that FWD is not cool. NOT COOL.

You're retarded.

I'll have to say the xB or the Fit. They're cheaper and get better milage.

Or the huge amount of used cars that you can afford.

[KiLLeR2001]

Gay. If you have a 240sx, you can't resist modding it. And my s14 is 14 years old. Cars don't last forever.

Self-control my friend.

When I first bought my 1991, only things I had to replace was the water pump, coolant temp sensor, and the clutch fan when the studs decided to break away, once I fixed them up, the engine was solid. Drove it for 11 months no problems till I crashed it :(

My KA24E in my 1990 had about 132,000 miles before I yanked it out and dropped the SR in, only problem with it was lifter tap, but it ran like a champ.

I just think getting a newer car is the easy way out. I couldn't even imagine going into my garage and hopping into a Scion tC and driving around. I think my soul would die a little inside with every mile I put on it.

[LA_phantom_240]

You're retarded.

I'll have to say the xB or the Fit. They're cheaper and get better milage.

Or the huge amount of used cars that you can afford.

I'm not buying new... just not old.

[muddafakka]

Honda Fit (they come in manual as well)

Civic Si or hatch (2000)

Integra GSR (00-01)

5 speed Maxima

6 speed Versa

etc etc

[mkiv98]

Self-control my friend.

When I first bought my 1991, only things I had to replace was the water pump, coolant temp sensor, and the clutch fan when the studs decided to break away, once I fixed them up, the engine was solid. Drove it for 11 months no problems till I crashed it :(

My KA24E in my 1990 had about 132,000 miles before I yanked it out and dropped the SR in, only problem with it was lifter tap, but it ran like a champ.

I just think getting a newer car is the easy way out. I couldn't even imagine going into my garage and hopping into a Scion tC and driving around. I think my soul would die a little inside with every mile I put on it.

if he wants to drive a tc, let him. different things for everyone. at least that s14 can go to someone else that will enjoy it more.

[S14DB]

fuck a 6 speed versa, 3 of the gears are worthless. CVT was such a better car to drive.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

I am not a fan of scions. although my mom drives an xA, and its rated at 38 mpg highway, i still hate driving it. I feel like im in a clown car, and i know i would laugh at me if i saw me driving it. make sense?> keep the 240

[muddafakka]

fuck a 6 speed versa, 3 of the gears are worthless. CVT was such a better car to drive.

Wow...did not know that. Which gears were they?

[S13_Nightkid]

tC-chick's highschool graduation car
xB-four dour p.o.s. that you think is cool because the commercials make them 100x better.
xA-no comment.

[KiLLeR2001]

if he wants to drive a tc, let him. different things for everyone. at least that s14 can go to someone else that will enjoy it more.

Never!

I mean look... LA_phantom_tC... lame. :)

[lil240sx95]

dude don't get a TC. just like s14db said they're a 2 door camry. I've had my s14 for 3 years almost and it's still stock. keep the nissan, but if you must sell get a maxima or a corolla.

[MikeisNissan]

Out here peope who drive scions either think they're the shit or are chicks. Chicks with scions are ok i guess but other than that .. :ugh:

[Mr. Camshaft]

I drive a Honda Fit 5spd and I have to say IT'S FUCKING GREAT! minus the lack of power. If you're short on cash, I'd say get a Civic.

[qwikspool]

keep your s14. if you are going to get a dd.
get a corolla.

[ZenkitonS14]

i really like the HONDA FITs for a daily. sweet car
my buddies gf has one. its raelly nice.

I sold my S14 about a month ago and used that money on a down payment for an 08 FIT. I LOVE IT!

[S14DB]

Wow...did not know that. Which gears were they?

I never used 4th or 5th. I only used 3rd once getting on the HW. Rest of the time was 1,2,6. CVT on the hand would stay at TQ peak at part throttle accel and HP peak at full throttle acel.

[ryguy]

The 240 may be a money pit, but remember that you're going to be paying primo insurance on a new car, and that will level the cost a bit.

[Matej]

Get something that gets good gas mileage. Who cares what it is.

But if you want a new car, wait for the Hyundai Genesis coupe to come out. :)

[WilloW]

For some reason I'm not feeling the tC. Ideally, I should not be basing my opinion of the car on how it look but also how it perform and durability as well. But somehow that car just look like a bloated pig to me and that just killed everything else it has going for it. So my answer to your questions is NO.

[eastcoastS14]

a friend of a friend has a blue turbo TC that was featured in modified....thing was pretty quick and looked pretty sick modified, anything can look good if done right IMO

[SW20Racer]

i didnt bother to read anything after the original post.

if you want a good price and good warranty, there are two things that come to mind first,

1. hyundai
2.saturn

there are a plethora of new hyundai's out there, all of which come with an awesome warranty

then there is the saturn astra. (among others, look into it)
http://files.windingroad.com/newsuploads/2007/02/08-saturn-astra-013-600.jpg


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[Tops*]

If you bought a tC, you'd end up doing a RWD conversion and whatever else RS-R did to Ken Gushi's new drift car.

So, stay with the 240.

[eastcoastS14]

yeah i dont think fwd or rwd matters in a DD sometimes when I drive my girls civic im just so glad to not have to worry about potholes and bouncing around on coilovers....or some random noise starting out of nowhere, lol sometimes when I drive my 240 I wanna kick out the windshield and set it on fire

[ESmorz]

Get an 02-04 Civic...?

Or a Fit...

Why is mazda out of the question?

[LA_phantom_240]

Get an 02-04 Civic...?

Or a Fit...

Why is mazda out of the question?

Because I can't fucking stand mazda.... and Saturn is a GM. GM is quite possibly the biggest pain in the ass ever. When you guys are saying 'new' are you talking like 2009 models? Cause I just want 'newer' as in less than 10 years old lol.

[stiizy]

for a dd beater get like an old camry corolla altima even the echo...they are all great on gas and wont hit your pocket for ins...

[jackjack]

its not a bad car, but i'd look for something else. i guess i'm not a big fan of the styling/cheap interior.

[s13poop]

well if you ever come to choosing a scion or toyota

hit me up my dad's a salesman at toyota :bigok:

[SW20Racer]

echo

+1 for echo. or even a tercel or yaris. i'm closing in on 50 mpg with the tercel for next to nothing in cost. (a total of around $3k has been spent, including the price of the car itself)

48ish mpg + 3 year/unlimited mile warranty on my new engine = cant be beat

and if you have the itch to modify your dd a little, there are some pretty fuckin sweet resources out there if you know where to look.

[Koopa Troopa]

I just bought an Alto Works so I can't really call Scion TC's gay....












Oh what the hell, I've got AWD and a turbo.

Scion TC's are fucking gay

[LA_phantom_240]

for a dd beater get like an old camry corolla altima even the echo...they are all great on gas and wont hit your pocket for ins...

See, its not a 'beater'. Its gonna be my only car for a while (few years), that will last til I can get another s14 for a project. I don't have time to fix my own cars anymore, working around 60 hours a week.

[stiizy]

^^ oh okay sorry so get like a 99 four door civic

[bloodangels13]

Im partial to the Fit do to see a bunch o nicely modded ones in Thialand..

i did at one point thought of getting a XB and having my liceance plate say DCKNABX in honor of the funnyass SNL skit

[origin_s135]

honda fit

end thread.

i must agree, the honda fit is way sexier, cheaper, interior probably looks better, plus it's a 4-door! i say that or a mazdaspeed3[if you are willing to pay a little more].

[s14_legend]

Honda Fit FTW!!! nuff said...get it before the new model comes out, the new ones are hella ugly

[an_orange_s2k]

honda fit

end thread.
i agree. honda fit + minor mods

[Bubbles]

And my s14 is 14 years old. Cars don't last forever.

My twenty year old corolla was more reliable than 90% of the cars I was around.

It got beat on more than 100% of the cars I'm around.


You're working 60 hours but can't afford a 240?

How will you afford a loan?

[LA_phantom_240]

My twenty year old corolla was more reliable than 90% of the cars I was around.

It got beat on more than 100% of the cars I'm around.


You're working 60 hours but can't afford a 240?

How will you afford a loan?

I can afford to upkeep a 240 fine... its just that in the long run, its gonna be nickel and dime after nickel and dime... where if I have a warranty, anything that breaks is covered, ya know? Its more of a time thing than anything else. I love my 240, really.

[spoolandslide]

seeing as how you apparently have a vagina, cant control your waller and envy homosexuals outside the club, you should check this out

http://www.scionzone.com/

you can learn how gay the scion tc is
you can understand that money can be dumped into that too

oh and this site too

www.zilva.net

this site will tell you how sick your car is
how good of gas mileage it gets
and how nice you can make it

if you already own a dope ass car and you would rather pay more money a month for a second car that gets a little better mileage then you must have a vagina cause your brain isnt thinking right

dont take this the wrong way, were trying to help you

[FRpilot]

i understand you. it's not like we can't fix it, dont have the money, or don't know how to. it's that we are too busy or too lazy to keep fixing shit on a car that keeps having shit break. its nice having a new car that doesn't break and shit. less headache involved, reliable, and something you can drive without modding or worrying if its going to break down, thieves, cops, etc. also nice to have it under warranty to have parts replaced for free and whatnot. it's the economical choice for a college student.

if i could to do it over again, i would have spent 10k+ on a downpayment for a nice newer car rather than modding my s13 over the years. then i would just buy a failed swap car and fix it/add mods as necessary. now, i retired my s13 to a track only car and am looking to buying a newer car too.

but i guess everyone has their own opinions on cars. i don't like the scion tc either, but i understand the feeling that you want to get something that is reliable and possibly good on gas. i think there are other options out there if you are in the market.

[gabe30]

tc- 16 year old high school bitch with chlymidia

[LA_phantom_240]

i understand you. it's not like we can't fix it, dont have the money, or don't know how to. it's that we are too busy or too lazy to keep fixing shit on a car that keeps having shit break. its nice having a new car that doesn't break and shit. less headache involved, reliable, and something you can drive without modding or worrying if its going to break down, thieves, cops, etc. also nice to have it under warranty to have parts replaced for free and whatnot. it's the economical choice for a college student.

if i could to do it over again, i would have spent 10k+ on a downpayment for a nice newer car rather than modding my s13 over the years. then i would just buy a failed swap car and fix it/add mods as necessary. now, i retired my s13 to a track only car and am looking to buying a newer car too.

but i guess everyone has their own opinions on cars. i don't like the scion tc either, but i understand the feeling that you want to get something that is reliable and possibly good on gas. i think there are other options out there if you are in the market.


Exactly.

At this point I'm just gonna say screw it and fix what's wrong with my car's body, swap in another motor and cluster, and call it a day til this KA decides to start pissing me off again. Meanwhile I'm going to save up for a nice car when I get more stable.

[FRpilot]

i thought that's what you didnt want to do (swaps, body work, bullshit, etc) and the reason you're looking for a newer car.

[TheTimanator]

I was in your shoes a few years ago, but I decided that I CAN'T sell my 240. Senitmental value maybe?

So, first I bought an 01 Frontier with a waranty b/c I thought I needed a waranty much like you do. Overpaid a little but the truck ran great and got 24mpg. After a year I was kinda getting bored of it and getting really tired of the $300 payment and $150 in insurance a month. So I took a loss and sold it. Paid cash for $4k Subaru Impreza 2.5rs which is an absolute steal and it was the best decision ever!

No debt, my insurance on both cars is $48 a month. B/c of this I have almost all my credit cards paid off and recently purchased a house. I still drive the 240 on the weekends when it's running :rofl:

[LA_phantom_240]

i thought that's what you didnt want to do (swaps, body work, bullshit, etc) and the reason you're looking for a newer car.

Well, as far as I'm concerned if I can fix what's wrong with it all at one time and refresh the whole car, I shouldn't have to do any more work to it for a while.

[FRpilot]

Well, as far as I'm concerned if I can fix what's wrong with it all at one time and refresh the whole car, I shouldn't have to do any more work to it for a while.

i know people who are refreshing their FDs from the ground up. they've been on jackstands for like 5yrs. lol

[Bubbles]

i know people who are refreshing their FDs from the ground up. they've been on jackstands for like 5yrs. lol


Wait.

Don't bring FD's into this.

A stock 3g with no engine sitting on jack stands could still pull more ass than a running 240.

[ZX88]

why not save up alittle more a buy a used 350z or at lease a done payment on one?

[just1pepsi]

If you want cheap transportation thats reliable, get something you will have no desire to mod.. like a Honda fit. Great gas mileage, not worth modding. Make sure you get dark window tint though, that way other people on the road cant see your face. :D

And yeah, chicks drive tc's.. not so sure about the chalamydia part though

[ronmcdon]

have to agree with the unfavorable consensus here about the tc. Fit, civic, and mazda3 are really some of the best choices for that 15-20k price-range. I almost got a fit myself too, but picked up an Si instead. the new lancer and rabbit are pretty fun to drive, but I'd have reservations about their dealer service, and mpg.

If i were you, i'd just save up till 22-25k. then you can afford the really fun stuff like the Si, a GTi/Audi A3 if you can work on cars or know a good mechanic w/ vw's. The 08 wrx is also still a very solid car, albeit you'll be paying a lot in insurance. if you can look past your dislike for mazda, the miata and the mazdaspeed 3 are good deals.

also, if you have good credit and are willing to lease, some of the 3-series and audi a4 deals arn't too bad out there. you could have something around 3-400/month.

[A Spec Products]

I didn't read the whole thread

But at this point I'd much rather drive a new Scion with working A/C

Than a modded 240sx

This is generally speaking in regards to DAILY driving

But if I were you, I wouldn't buy a car you need to make payments on

Why put yourself in debt for a CAR? Use that money for more vital or important things

Buy a used car

If its just a daily, all it needs to do is get you from point A to point B, reliably

Who cares what it looks like, unless you are self conscious like that

But people who care about what kinda car you drive or how much you make are typically people who shouldn't matter to you

[tattoo131313]

+1 for the honda fit.get a 2007 with low mileage and still under warranty.

[s13poop]

this was me a year ago :keke:

i got tired of fixing the 240 if it wasn't one thing it was another and getting pulled over twice in one week wasn't the best either :ghey:

i ended up selling my coupe and leased a 07 impreza 2.5i originally wanted a wrx but the insurance was too much and the way gas is now a days is horrid but it does the job and i like it alot when the lease is done i'll finally buy the car of my dreams

i only pay $240 a month and $100 insurance it was really nice not having a car payment though :hs: but i can tell you i miss my 240 to death it belongs to "berz" here on zilvia now

if i could do it all over again i just would have kept the 240 and bought a 97-99 civic just to get to work and back

remember 240's are getting harder to find if you can keep it hold on to it as long as you can

[LA_phantom_240]

remember 240's are getting harder to find if you can keep it hold on to it as long as you can

This is almost the best reason to keep my 240. I don't wanna hunt one down again. At least I know this one like the back of my hand.

And by refresher, I mean new fuel pump, bushings, fluids, etc. Nothing really major.

[kaotic]

Ive got an '03 si.. and I love it.. 28/34mpg.. just great..

[RiversideS13]

i think it is all depend on what are you looking for.

If you are looking for good resale value and reliability, Tc is a good choice. you don't have to worry about it will get stolen like civic si, you don't have to worry about electrical problems like mazda or vw.

the performance of tC just so so, but enough to use as a daily. the fuel efficiency could be better, but that gave the car reasonable acceleration.

if you are looking for space and fuel economy, i would recommend the new civic. it give almost same fuel efficiency as Fit and have more rooms and power.

i am guessing you are at your early 20 and i would not spend more than 20k to buy a car. so you could have options latter such as pursuit higher education, start up a business...etc. the less you borrow the better shape you are.

[SimpleS14]

Impreza ?

You never stated how much you are willing to drop on a used car, so the suggestion people make will be endless (even if its mostly Honda Fit).

[fromxtor]

'04 Spec V, fastest stock NA FWD car I've ever driven.

[LA_phantom_240]

Resale valule? S14's are the way to go. The market is stupid crazy, and its only gonna get even more insane. I bought my car for $2200, and have people on my nuts all the time offering almost twice as much for it. Craziness.

If I could get a car, it would be $13k or less.

But as it stands, I'm just gonna keep the car, swap the motor, and keep the old one and build it for turbo.... meanwhile save up a bunch of money to get something I actually want, and turn my s14 into a project car.

[FRpilot]

time to close thread. looks like decision is made

[spoolandslide]

if i could to do it over again, i would have spent 10k+ on a downpayment for a nice newer car rather than modding my s13 over the years. then i would just buy a failed swap car and fix it/add mods as necessary. now, i retired my s13 to a track only car and am looking to buying a newer car too.

then why not take out a loan and then get a dope ass s14 with an alarm and everything in tip top shape and keep it nice, dont use it as a project car

if you are going to get a scion tc then you might as well castrate yourself
dont castrate yourself man, there are more alternatives

[LA_phantom_240]

Die. Really.