oil cooler - whare is best to put it, and size ?

[Master Chief]

Hi.

I am building myself an Oil cooler kit.
I already have a Tomei N2 Block, and a greddy Filter block with thermostat...
I need to get some lines, so i need to decide on the cooler size, and location.

I was thinking about a SETRAB cooler, and about mounting it instead of the washer bottle, under the battery tray, inside the wing.
That would be a good location for air flow, as putting it between the intercooler, and the rad , doesnt sound good to me.

From my meassures, SETRAB #125 or #625, would fit perfectly.
http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.php?shop=Accessories&dept=Setrab!_Cooler

I am just not sure if the size is good.
I dont want to go too big, but not to small either.

The car will be about 400HP-500HP,when finished (with the right tuning, and a bit of luck).
It will be used for ocational DRAG/DRIFT/COURSE and ocationaly driving around town.

i was wondering what do you think, and if someone has done this
Where did you mounted it and what did you go for ?

Thanks.

[krazydriver]

In my car i used a B&M #70273 (15,000 BTU 11"x5-3/4"x1-1/2") 1/2npt which i plumbed into a -10AN adapter.

I was planning on putting it up where your thinking, but for an easier install i just put it between my intercooler and radiator.
Although i do live in NY, so it's not really hot up here. (my engine temps top at a nice steady 185* F) If you live somewhere warm you may have airflow/heat issues with that.

[chuy]

I have an S14 I took out the front grill and I will put my oil cooler there. I dont think it really matters as long as it has air flow going across it.

[Dousan_PG]

ill take pics of mine
perfect size
excellent placement
maximum cooling!

[aaronlosey]

Earls 425.

doesn't matter, put it in front of your radiator for safety.

[Master Chief]

Dousan - Some pics would be great !

I think a cooler that fits instead of the front grill, would be a bit too small, no ?

Allso, as i have a FMIC, and the A/C rad, infront of the Coolant Rad, i wouldnt want to jam another heat source in front of it..... I does tend to get pretty hot around where i live.

Drifting in the desert, would surley rise the temp , dont you think ?

[rican_nick]

shitty picture of my setup

Greddy thermoed block adapter.
I put bulkhead fittings through the radiator support
Earl's cooler mounted behind the intercooler

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/rican240sx2/TehKoukiProject/IMG00233-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/rican240sx2/TehKoukiProject/IMG00226.jpg

horrible pic from inside the engine bay along the frame rail.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/rican240sx2/TehKoukiProject/IMG00228.jpg

waiting on the rest of my fittings to get here.. but the way the lines wil be ran are from the block adapter to the bulkheads going through the radiator support and then 90 over to the cooler. Hope it helps.

[timlush]

I love the idea of the bulkheads!

[FRpilot]

n2 block, greddy oil filter block, and setrab cooler is what I'm planning to do. putting the cooler in the grill area is a nice design. ARC uses it, but their coolers are efficient.

here is a pic of the $1000 ARC oil cooler for s13 silvia. its nice but i think ARC discontinued it.

http://www.j-imports.com.au/uParts/uCooli5.jpg

i've also seen people put it on the driver or passenger side of the bumper. RX7 FDs are set up like that stock from the factory with dual oil coolers.

[Master Chief]

That ARC cooler - 6 row's for 1000$, is a rip off. Meaby they dscontinued it because of there conscience finaly getting to them.

More rows = more cooling , BTW.

For a high power car, only 6 rows sounds to small for me.

Nick, thats a good idea you had there !

[FRpilot]

well yea, most ARC products are bank and might not justify their cost. (their intercoolers range from 1500 and up)

i was trying to show you a picture as an example of how a grilled mounted setup would work if you decided to go that route, as the some other guy explained that he put his oil cooler in the grill area of his s14.

well, since your oil cooler is the traditional size, you might just put it on the side or in front of the radiator like the other guy posted pictures of.

this is a picture of an rx7 with upgraded dual oil coolers
http://cabaynes.com//files/Oil/Oil-05.jpg

if you want to be creative, you can even make ducting for them like this rx7 with vmount setup and dual oil coolers

http://www.cabaynes.com/files/garage/IMG_1116%20%28Medium%29.jpg

[Dousan_PG]

rotaries need good oilcoolers to stay alive
i took pics of my setup
ill upload at home tonight!

[KiDyNomiTe]

Mine is mounted in front of the radiator behind the intercooler, where the ac condenser would be. I havent had any issues with cooling, car has yet to overheat, having the fans behind the radiator helps the cooling. Only thing I plan on doing is ducting to help direct flow.

Also my intercooler is a tank and my oil cooler wouldnt break if i was in a crash like it would if i had it under the battery tray..

[Dousan_PG]

as promised!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/recent022.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/recent025.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/recent027.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/recent028.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/recent029.jpg


its seen a many track days haha

when my car is on the ground im going to pressure wash it clean again haha


transmission fixing at the moment
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/recent019.jpg

[DreamN]

^ so what's your setup? looks nice, just lacking the necessary info so that I can jock you :D

[Dousan_PG]

what info you want??
i put the core size w/ the tape measure there
what else u wanna know?

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

all ARC products are still 100% hand made. that takes skill and patients, which brings up the price! it's much higher quality than any little ebay/xo2 racing oil cooler, or intercooler.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

^ so what's your setup? looks nice, just lacking the necessary info so that I can jock you :D

what info you want??
i put the core size w/ the tape measure there
what else u wanna know?

what tranny problem, what type of oil you use, what you had for dinner:tweak:


he said he wanted stalk:keke: you...............

[DreamN]

what info you want??
i put the core size w/ the tape measure there
what else u wanna know?

brand and if you relocated your oil filter as well? lines and fittings are no issue.

[Dousan_PG]

tranny leaked on bellhousing swap from about 8 months ago
finallydropped it
shouldnt have reused the paper gaskets

dinner was a hotdog. i have to go shopping
oil is mt90

brand is setrab
of course i relocted the filter
stock filter location sucks
lines and fittings are never an issue
its very straight forward. part of basic mechanics


here's what u do

buy parts
fit them
then figure what lines and fittings you need. its very very very very vyer easy.

hardest part is making stuff sit and mount right and be in a good spot
drilll holes if needs be.

[DreamN]

ahh alright so the 619. sweet.

[Master Chief]

So what would be better ?
More tubes, with shorter lenght, OR less tubes with longer lenght ?

[The ROMAN]

I was planning on making my own setup with the setrab and all, but now I see circuit sports is coming out with a kit for 289. Seems like a pretty good deal?

http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/cispoilcokit.html

[!Zar!]

Circuit Sports as well as Powered by Max have a oil cooler, but the thing is, everyone won't want the oil cooler located at the same place.

When you build your own setup, it will fit exactly how you wish.

Setrab has been a longtime choice for oil coolers.

Don't be afraid to bust out the tape measure.

[IIIXziuR]

I like Dousan's location, looks like it receives a lot of air flow.
...and its not in the way of the I/C

[WilloW]

I was planning on making my own setup with the setrab and all, but now I see circuit sports is coming out with a kit for 289. Seems like a pretty good deal?

http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/cispoilcokit.html
That is a lot of money just for that. I got this for $27x,
http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/d/36986-2/DSCN0250.JPG
http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/d/37011-2/DSCN0258.JPG
but I'm not happy with it. Just you your own setup the way you want it to be, I'm sure at the end you'll be much happier. I'm sure as hell not happy with what I've got, so I'm not installing it.

[FRpilot]

looks like you got about the same as the cs kit for about the same price. ($27x vs 290) the cs kit says it includes an oil block adaptor, which looks like it isn't pictured. it probably has another hose too.

why aren't you happy with your setup? i rather go custom as well. get the parts you want and the correct lengths of hoses where you want to put your oil cooler.

[upSLIDEdown]

looks like you got about the same as the cs kit. the cs kit says it includes an oil block adaptor, which looks like it isn't pictured. it probably has another hose too.

why aren't you happy with your setup? i rather go custom as well. get the parts you want and the correct lengths of hoses where you want to put your oil cooler.

It says block adapter and filter relocator, but the pic shows a sandwich adapter...

Taka has a kit with the block adapter, filter relocator, cooler, and lines for $450.

[FRpilot]

It says block adapter and filter relocator, but the pic shows a sandwich adapter...

Taka has a kit with the block adapter, filter relocator, cooler, and lines for $450.

yea looking at it again, it does look like just a sandwich adaptor. but the description says filter relocator and block adaptor. weird. maybe ask phase2 if you are seriously considering this kit.

the taka kit looks like almost everything one should need. comes with high quality parts such as setrab cooler, earls lines, and necessary adaptors. i would get it for as an easy bolt on application which is tried and works.

i rather go custom, i dont know where i'll place my oil cooler yet.

[The ROMAN]

I would ask that and the length of the lines. It's odd that they say the lines hold 20,000 psi, which is complete overkill for oil and I would think would drive the cost up over 280.

[FRpilot]

probably should wait a while. the cs kit says its coming soon, so its probably still in development and they are working out the kinks and bugs into designing a completely bolt on setup. it's probably just a generic picture for now to draw interest.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Dont buy a kit, too much wasted space, or too limited setup. I originally bought a used kit, and didnt like it much, replaced pretty much everything and I am much happier now!

[ziptiedae86]

I recently bought parts for my own custom kit from RacerPartsWholesale.com and will put it together this summer (this is for my Corolla btw):

Item Qty Qty Qty
Number Description Ord. Shp. Bck.
---------- ------------------------------ -------- -------- --------
AER-FBA080 -8 Aeroquip Stainless Steel Braided Hose 6.00 6.00 0.00
AER-FCM101 -08 Aeroquip Straight Reusable Swivel Fitting 2.00 2.00 0.00
AER-FCM200 Aeroquip Straight Male Connector, Alum. -08 to 1/2" 1.00 1.00 0.00
AER-FCM203 Aeroquip 90 Degree Male Elbow, Alum. -08 to 1/2" Adapter 1.00 1.00 0.00
AER-FCM403 -08 Aeroquip 90 Degree Reusable Elbow Fitting 2.00 2.00 0.00
SET-A13F22 Setrab 13 row oil cooler with -8 fittings 1.00 1.00 0.00
MOC-SP1T 3/4 THERMO PLATE 1.00 1.00 0.00

The total for your order is $338.45.

[WilloW]

why aren't you happy with your setup?

1. It doesn't have an oil thermostat.
2. It has a screw-on block adapter, and to me that another source for a potential oil leak. I know that the screw on design has worked for some of you, but I'm just anal.

3. The braided hoses are nice, but I would rather make my own measurements and have the whole assembly tailor to my need by me.

Whenever I do my oil cooler/relocation kit
1. Tomei block adapter, or mod the OEM oil filter mounting block. Or better yet, tap the block for the fittings while its at the machine shop for the honing.
2. GREX thermostatic oil filter block.
3. Of course the braided hoses to the correct length.
4. Setrab oil cooler.

[sac]

^^ Tomei block adaptor is way to go. Then custom from there..
So much more reliability in the bolt on filter relocation. Tapping the block fittings is a way good idea too, But i just dont like that idea for my use.

If your looking for a good oil cooler, I am going to be selling a B&M 70297 on here. Probably going up tomorrow.

[Master Chief]

What would be a good size oild cooler, for an engine pushing about 500hp ?

Size as in number of rows/tubes and lenght.

[TriniGT]

Any ill effects mounting an oil cooler upside down? I am thinking it would help when changing oil as well, to remove all that old oil rather than it collecting in the cooler. What do you'll recommend?