View Full Version : check it Turbo Manifolds..GOOD?
derek king
05-07-2008, 07:47 AM
hey guys tell me what you think about these good deal and what do you guys think.
a ka top mount and a sr bottom mount with a power steering relolcation bracket seems pretty badass, and kickass price?
http://www.neukin.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=neukinnSRbm
http://www.turbogoods.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=34
posdrift240
05-07-2008, 07:57 AM
I woudn't give a dime more than 400$ for either. Looks like good quality. But IMO expensive.
aNskY
05-07-2008, 08:03 AM
is that sr mani t3 flanged? im in the market for a new manifold.. wonder if my 50 trim will fit bottom mount?
projectRDM
05-07-2008, 09:36 AM
"Drift inspired"
Hell, there's your extra $400 right there. I know people chomp on the penis for drift parts, but that's pushing it a little I think. I guess since I don't drift I'd have to wait for their line of "autocross inspired" or "grip inspired" models to come out.
water
05-07-2008, 10:37 AM
Looks like a quality piece so idk why everyone's complaining. Materials are expensive when you're not using junk.
Style
05-07-2008, 12:31 PM
the only thing that i seen for SR is that you cant have AC and you have to relocate the powersteering pump down.
Dousan_PG
05-07-2008, 12:33 PM
did u even read the description
lower center of gravity.
are these guys serious?
hahahahahaha
crack city in a couple weeks i bet.
Ya, lifetime warranty, but how long is their business gonna last? Hahaha.
Just go Full Race. Spend more money now... less later.
DunG HAB SP
05-07-2008, 01:30 PM
the term is called R & D ( rip off and Duplicate ) DUng care if it fits just sell!!
a_ahmed
05-07-2008, 01:44 PM
HAHA drift inspired :P I just LOVE when I hear 'jdm', 'drifting inspired', it's like how years ago everything was labeled turbo, sports, type-r, race spec, etc... lol
water
05-07-2008, 04:32 PM
Lower COG does sound gimmicky.
The crap about the heat is BS too. I've seen stock manifolds/turbos with removed heat shields melt brake mc's so I'm pretty sure a larger tubular would do the same.
Relocating p/s is dumb too.
The part looks solid though and its not always a bad thing to try something different. Then again, if it aint broke...
trsilvias13
05-07-2008, 04:48 PM
neukin is a good company. Few of my friends has their manifold and make good power on them and also they did not break on their own. A rod shot threw my friends block and dend the runner, but no cracks nor broken welds.
This was in a 750fwhp honda.
95KA-Turbo
05-07-2008, 05:35 PM
Ya, lifetime warranty, but how long is their business gonna last? Hahaha.
Just go Full Race. Spend more money now... less later.
I've personally seen more cracked full race manifolds in person then megan or SSAuto Chrome combined. You've got to run flex pipe or something to absorb some impact or anything will crack.
alkemyst
05-07-2008, 05:44 PM
yeah they did a bad fab...so they are claiming no a/c and lower the p/s and in return you will be teh drift king with lower cg/etc.
Sadly I am sure they will get those with some mad cash buying and adapting their rides only to get blown by a guy running a log manifold.
Adikt
05-07-2008, 06:53 PM
Do you still work for Neukin Derek?
singlecamslam
05-07-2008, 06:56 PM
"drops turbo low for better car center of gravity thus handling." wow, that made me laugh.
burnsauto
05-07-2008, 06:58 PM
why would you want A/C anyway.....you're not a pussy... are you? :keke: jk
yeah...both look like crap.
hitman
05-07-2008, 07:29 PM
i like that bottom mount turbo manifold. i saved the link because i want to make my own mani soon and something like that would be cool.
only problem i see for us cars is the steering linkage. that sounds like an australian company or something and the bottom mount turbo is kinda far forward. i dont know how it would work w/ the steering shaft
95KA-Turbo
05-07-2008, 10:19 PM
They mention it being out of the way of the brake booster...which would make it LHD, so it should clear the steering column as well.
How would a 25 lb turbo being lower than a topmount NOT lower your center of gravity?
KA-T_240
05-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Both are over priced:
For a topmount KA mani I would buy this for $800 anyday over what is listed there.
http://straightlinespecialties.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=77
SILVIA_KIDs14.5
05-09-2008, 09:23 AM
full race enough said espically cuz its maybe 75 bucks more than the one you show up there
alkemyst
05-09-2008, 04:35 PM
full race enough said espically cuz its maybe 75 bucks more than the one you show up there
it was hard to read this at first, but I am hoping you had experience with full race since you are giving it an expensive recommendation.
Many are probably better off going JGS than blowing so much on just the manifold.
Rizzo
05-10-2008, 10:09 PM
I had Alex build my top mount manifold and 4 inch downpipe for my Built 00 Civic Si that made 503whp on 93 octane and 18.5 psi 650+ on 116 and 24 psi with a Precision SC61SP turbo. I would definately put his quality up there by full-race. and awesome customer service and fair prices too. these things are thick and strong, I ran mine for a couple years and no problems at all.
As far as the lower mounting for better handling and lower center of gravity, ALOT of people I have known that seriously race autocross and Road Race competions are very concerned with weight and placement of that weight and corner balancing. I dont know whether it matters for drifting or not because I am not a drifter. Fun to watch but not my goal for building my rb25 s13. If I can get Alex @ Neukin to build a manifold for the RB I would definately have one on my s13.
again the quality from Neukin Is A+++ and money well spent.
FTMFW
05-10-2008, 10:17 PM
just edited it some idiot got my password
FTMFW
05-10-2008, 10:22 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont some idiot got my password PLZ dont
alkemyst
05-11-2008, 06:18 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont some idiot got my password PLZ dont
wow caught it in 5mins too...
why not take the time to go and edit that post.
sr20boostn20
05-11-2008, 08:32 AM
i would reccomend the full race manifold because i have one on my car.
but there are other companies coming out wiht new manifolds this year that are designed like t he full race manifold they just dont cost as much.
those manis pictured above dont look bad at all stainless construction welds look decent, \
call them and talk to them on the phone ask about warrantys previous customer complaints.
its a big decison think it through
alkemyst
05-11-2008, 06:53 PM
I have no experience directly, but full-race had been touted majorly esp by those that own products by them esp after going through others fuck ups.
Still unless you are putting down some major juice and majorly competing this level of manifold is really an icing on the cake rather than the flour.
Blown240sx
05-11-2008, 06:55 PM
I paid 460 shipped for my Manifold made by a guy in Indiana. Same pipes and flanges as Full race but 1/3 of the price. It was a great manifold.
alkemyst
05-11-2008, 07:10 PM
There are always deals out there esp in those that buy one and copy..however for your success there are probably another 100 or so guys that never got their manifold from fly by nights.
I was once in network gear, in the secondhand market usually you never have all the covers that come with the equipment, especially extra power supply covers. The company I worked with tried to deal with a few mom and pop shops promising the world for 1/10th the price. While we finally found a great buy, many of the 'entrants' sucked ass. Maybe 2 screws lined up, 3 if we were lucky. At the same time the metal was just too thin and nothing like the original.
One of my ideas is to somehow link all the great tinkerers into one set website. Buy it at non-advertising/marketing costs once it falls into the public domain or has a design outside the patented model.
STEVES14
05-12-2008, 04:35 PM
hey guys tell me what you think about these good deal and what do you guys think.
a ka top mount and a sr bottom mount with a power steering relolcation bracket seems pretty badass, and kickass price?
http://www.neukin.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=neukinnSRbm
http://www.turbogoods.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=34
one of them looks like a knock off of peak boost manifold
neukin
05-12-2008, 05:39 PM
Hey guys, we have been making manifolds for about 4+ years now. We have over 600 units out there and have had 4 back for repair and heard of about 3 others crack but never got them back in for repair. Started this company around 18 years old and now im 23 with a few employees. We dont mess around and only want to offer the best.. im sorry the prices are kinda salty but we use full CNC flanges not plasma or laser cut.. milled work costs more. We also use alot of thick stainless to help prevent corrosion and cracking also jacking the price up. Here in Indiana welding up a storm paying my two guys as much as we can.. its hard to run a small performance company.. trust me.
Thanks Rizzo i do have a RB in house right now and the chassis of your choice! Getting the prototype done in a week or two.
The drift inspired thing does sound kinda lame but.... inspired it really was. The longer runner manifolds (our topmounts) didnt sell to drift gents since those are best for 600-800whp. The shorter runners on our bottom mount help with spool up, low and mid range power. The manifold will also be efficient for well over 500whp. We have this manifold on a few cars and it just to happens they all drift. The 21 odd pounds up high is alot on a race car, every bit helps. Its also great for drag or grip (scca/nasa etc) as i read someone joking but those types didnt influence our decision to build that unit/style. We even took the time to make a PITA power steering bracket for it. The bracket, belt and hardware is included. This also makes for a clean intake to be made since the lower PS gives you a direct shot to the turbo inlet. This lowers the turbo, power steering bracket, and pumps weight! (our bracket also saves close to 2 pounds!)
ALSO NOTE: the moved Power Steering gets more air from the ground (cooler) and away from the manifolds #1 runner again helping it stay cooler and maybe no need for a cooler now.
BTY We are a Premium advertiser here on Zilvia just dont have time right now to get the artwork sent in... too busy welding. Thanks guys.
TigWiz
05-12-2008, 06:39 PM
Neukin, good to see you chimed in. Far too often companies are being bashed, or simply questioned without even knowing that its going on. Guess you're one of the lucky ones that caught it.
PS: Post up pictures of your work more often, it never hurts...
Rizzo
05-12-2008, 08:28 PM
Good to see you on here Alex!. Get ahold of me about that RB manifold and let me know the full details and any updates as they come up. But definately put me on the list for one of the first ones. If you need deposit or payment let me know a price and time frame. It's funny how I had the first topmount and 4 inch dp for an Ek/EM! honda and now one of the first for your RB.
when you're figuring a price give me a additional prices if any on possibly divided T4 with twin Tial 44s or maybe GT32R or gt35R with the Tial housing and single Tial 44mm. Including dump tubes etc.
neukin
05-12-2008, 09:18 PM
Glad we can get on here and answer questions and let you guys know what we are thinking when we build something. TIGWIZ im taking it your local? not sure who you are but we will get some pictures up. The time we put into each unit and the beauty is hard to capture but ill try. We are better with the torch then the photo snapper.
Sounds good Rizzo, just dont hold your breath on one of my guys taking a road trip to deliver your parts on the weekend like last time. That was a one time deal ha. I think i still have your number. The prices you need are on the RB setup right.. not a new Honda Divided Topmount?
Rizzo
05-12-2008, 09:29 PM
Yes Rb! all the honda parts are sold except the car and the ERL built/ stroked shortblock. Althoug I greatly appreciated the roadtrip last time If I need it that bad again I will come get it! I would like to check out the shop anyway.
I will pm you my number in case you dont have it anymore
NismoLmgt4
05-13-2008, 02:16 AM
nuekin is a good manifold alot of honda tuners are using them and are having no cracking problems with it
Rizzo
05-15-2008, 04:15 PM
just for reference here are some pics of Neukin's work. not the best quality pics. This is my b16a2 honda topmount setup from Alex.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h206/RizzoTK/turbopics005.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h206/RizzoTK/turbopics012.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h206/RizzoTK/turbopics006.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h206/RizzoTK/turbopics016.jpg
Jamison182
09-30-2008, 12:20 AM
I've personally seen more cracked full race manifolds in person then megan or SSAuto Chrome combined.
Wow, very bold statement. Pictures speak louder than words. Prove it.
FullRaceGeoff
09-30-2008, 05:52 PM
total BS. not possible.
Xracer
09-30-2008, 06:02 PM
I cannot believe how many people on here were bashing the Neukin products. I think these guys don't know quality when they see it. If they actually knew what goes into making a nice manifold like Neukin's, they would have a better understanding of why they cost what they do.
Way to argue and bump an almost 5 month old thread.
alkemyst
10-01-2008, 08:37 AM
problem is for every 1 person we have actually doing it/buying it we have 19 others saying they 'already had one and hated / loved it' when they might not even have a car even.
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