DSLR Cameras

[Mathetai]

So my wife asked me the other day what I wanted for fathers day. I'm thinking a new camera but still undecited. Can anyone speak from experience or just product knowledge on these 2 cameras? I really like the Canon since they have been around for a while and seem like they are one of the leaders in SLR's. On the other hand is Sony which bought out Minolta which was also a good brand and about $100 less. I have seen both in person and Sony just says "buy me" all over it. What do you guys think? Thanks!

Keep in mind that this will be my first SLR camera and from what I hear they are good beginer ones.

Canon XTi 10.1MP
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=14256

Sony A200K 10.2MP
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665315453

[JVD]

Canon. Tons of lens choices. I regret not getting one for that reason.

[exitspeed]

Canon. The XTi 10.1MP is a good starting DSLR.

[atutt]

This has been covered I guess you could say.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=180978&highlight=DSLR

[touge monster]

Canon for sure. As far as getting your money's worth, canon is your best choice. Tons of lens and acessories for you to choose from. With Sony, you are just paying for the brand name instead of quality. Sony sucks.. Canon ftw!

[touge monster]

hope this helps.

http://www.cameralabs.com/features/10Megapixel_DSLR_test/

[Pank]

canon canon canon canon
you'll make up that 100 difference the first time you shoot with a nice piece of glass.

Plus, the canon has a better sensor anyway

[exitspeed]

This has been covered I guess you could say.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=180978&highlight=DSLR

Yea, I forgot about that thread.

[Z33dori]

the sony A Series are very nice... my friend has one. I like it alot better than the Canon i used before.

[Mathetai]

I think I may just go with the Canon. Maybe even the XSi. Thanks for all the feedback. I really appreciate it.

[hotlavaflow]

I was once professional and I would use nothing but Canon products (still do).

[KA-T_240]

Canon.


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[Andrew Bohan]

i use canon

win win win win win

[TiNMAN]

canon.

sony is only good for...

[kdashy]

Im not a big fan of Canons entry level DSLRs but its still better off than the Sony.

[yokotas13]

canon 40d is only a few hundred more and TONS more camera

if your going to get a rebel, i dont even reccomend buying it now

I had one, and got pissed off at it once i outshot it, bought a 40d and am super duper happy.

[Mathetai]

canon 40d is only a few hundred more and TONS more camera

if your going to get a rebel, i dont even reccomend buying it now

I had one, and got pissed off at it once i outshot it, bought a 40d and am super duper happy.
Yes the 40D is a sweet camera. My buddy has one and he loves it. Its not im my budget at the moment.

[TiNMAN]

40D for teh win

[yokotas13]

Yes the 40D is a sweet camera. My buddy has one and he loves it. Its not im my budget at the moment.
then save


do peopl ethese days not realize what that is?
save now to spend less later.

[AutoKA24DE]

i outgrew my Rebel XT in less than a year.

dont get the XTi, you'll regret not getting the newer stuff a la XSi or 40d.

i'm going to pick up my 40d real soon.

i was also looking into the sony stuff, but there seems to be a lack of general consumer support for their product. if you have any friends that have any SLR's i suggest you go with whatever they have, that way you can learn faster by shooting pics and taking advice from them.

[yokotas13]

i mena, i have a rebelXT for sale for 300 bucks if your that cheap

[Andrew Bohan]

how many shots on it?

[yokotas13]

not sure
how do i find out?

[kdashy]

not sure
how do i find out?

The names of the files usually tell you how many pics its taken.

[yokotas13]

ill take a picture with it when i get home
i havent reset it since i bought it, so yeah that will work.


id say around 800-1200

[Andrew Bohan]

wow, not bad

mine has about 23k on it :D

[PhAtXSuMo]

pm "OMGYO" he knows alot of shit about these cameras and he also has a DSLR of his own

[yokotas13]

wow, not bad

mine has about 23k on it :D
i used it for 6 months
wasnt happy, and bought a 40d

[Z33dori]

yea for entry level i wasn't to happy with the Rebel xti

but the Sony A100X is awesome starter.....

but once u move up Canon owns....i perfer Nikon myself.

[yokotas13]

honestly, the nikon canon thing, is all about feeling

if you like hte feel go for it
they are pretty even, and nikon you can use any nikon lens on it

canon is retarded with lens changes

[Z33dori]

yea i think what really did it for me was actually the feel of the bodies. the canon just seems to small for my hands. it was do able to hold, but not the most comfortable for me. But the quality of the pics was really nice.

[yokotas13]

i go the bottom grip for hte 40d

makes it a whole new camera
so much better

[95Blue240sx]

I came to this party late

Anyway if you were looking at an entry level camera I would either choose canon XSi or the nikon equivalent. Im not sure of the nikon model, because I own a canon 10d. One thing to watch out for is some Nikons dont have auto focus which a lot of people hate.

Canon's entry level stuff runs a little small, but its a world of a difference if you add a battery grip. This is personal preference though. It adds an additional batter which = additional weight, but you gain a portrait shutter button and extended battery use.

You can always go used and get a nice setup rather then spending more on brand new stuff. A friend of mine bought the Canon XSi with a 50mm F/1.8 all new for around 900ish from best buy. The 50mm is a great prime lens and is SHARP, but some people will feel limited because it is fixed. Alternatively you can use that same 900 and get a used 20d for about $400 which is a far better camera then the XSi. You now have $500 to spend on a lens. I would either go with a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 or Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4.5. I've had both these lenses and the image quality is superb for the price. The tamron's IQ is comparable to Canon's top lense at the fraction of the price, but I hated the loud and slow auto focus. I still have the Sigma and love the range and the quiet motor.

[jfc3po]

yea canon all the way...i have a 350D(Rebel XT) and I'm happy right now, but i'll be investing in a 30d or 40d soon....

I would say get the XTI or the XSI, that way you don't spend TOO much money on a camera body and suddenly decide that the camera is just going to sit around the house...

but shit, if your wife feels like going all out....Canon 1DMkIII....roughly $8,000...give or take a few hundered bucks...

[Mathetai]

Ok so I just got a text msg from wifey and she bought me the XTi Kit (includes a basic lens) and a 75-300mm lens. I cant wait to go home and mess with it. Thanks for al the imput fellas. I really appreciate it!

[s14_legend]

theres a special for this week: canon xti which includes...camera/extra lense/and starter kit bag w/ battery at best buy under 1k...sounds like what you got.

[SochBAT]

You know you're gonna use it for Peeping. All telephoto guys do.

I really wanna get one. REALLY bad.

[yokotas13]

Ok so I just got a text msg from wifey and she bought me the XTi Kit (includes a basic lens) and a 75-300mm lens. I cant wait to go home and mess with it. Thanks for al the imput fellas. I really appreciate it!
tell her to take that lens back

its ass
complete and utter ass

[Mathetai]

tell her to take that lens back

its ass
complete and utter ass
Elaborate please.

[95Blue240sx]

Its not sharp and is probably really slow. Return all of it. Canon is going to run rebates on some of their stuff starting on the 11th. Id wait for that.

[Pank]

tell her to take that lens back

its ass
complete and utter ass

quotin dis
total truth
but first, take about 100 pictures with it, THEN get a new lense, and you'll be 900% blown away. Even my $200 dollar tamron has better image quality


Its not sharp and is probably really slow. Return all of it. Canon is going to run rebates on some of their stuff starting on the 11th. Id wait for that.
F3.5-5.6, not that slow, but then again, nothing to write home about.
someone sell me their 50mm (you know which one) on the cheap

[yokotas13]

its like 80.00 brand fucking new

go buy one jackass lol

[AutoKA24DE]

yeah my 75-300 sucks balls. what he probably meant that its really slow to autofocus. and lots of hunting as well.

and as far as the rebel line goes...you HAVE to get a battery grip otherwise its just way too uncomfortable.

yokota, you got the grip for the 40d? even without the grip the 40d feels great in your hands, so its hard for me to imagine the improvement in grip.

to the original poster, if theres one thing the sony's have over the nikon and canon's, its ergonomics. they feel freagn great.

[Pank]

yeah my 75-300 sucks balls. what he probably meant that its really slow to autofocus. and lots of hunting as well.

and as far as the rebel line goes...you HAVE to get a battery grip otherwise its just way too uncomfortable.

yokota, you got the grip for the 40d? even without the grip the 40d feels great in your hands, so its hard for me to imagine the improvement in grip.

to the original poster, if theres one thing the sony's have over the nikon and canon's, its ergonomics. they feel freagn great.

no, he meant slow, as in high F stop, as in you have to use slow shutter speeds. it autofocuses quick and accurately.

its like 80.00 brand fucking new

go buy one jackass lol

no not that one dammit, the 1.4l or the 1.2l
the 1.2L is $1,200
:(

[yokotas13]

yeah my 75-300 sucks balls. what he probably meant that its really slow to autofocus. and lots of hunting as well.

and as far as the rebel line goes...you HAVE to get a battery grip otherwise its just way too uncomfortable.

yokota, you got the grip for the 40d? even without the grip the 40d feels great in your hands, so its hard for me to imagine the improvement in grip.

to the original poster, if theres one thing the sony's have over the nikon and canon's, its ergonomics. they feel freagn great.
i meant as in its not sharp at all
slow to focus
gay as fuck
and whot he fuck uses an externally zooming tele lens?

70-200 ftmfw itnernal zoom, super fast great sharpness

the 50-200 and 75-300 suck ass completely


my pinky always hangs off the bottom of my 40d. pisses me off

[Andrew Bohan]

i have a 70-200L

F/4 instead of f/2.8 but still hotsauce

got it for $475 used

[yokotas13]

i have the same lens
i love it
id like the 2.8
but hey cant be baller at everything right?

[AutoKA24DE]

link to 70-200? i want to replace the pos 75-300

i was looking at getting the sigma 18-200 OS...any negatives on that ?

[Mathetai]

Interesting info on the 75-300. I have not used it yet but talks of this other lens may seem like a better option.

I WILL need to get the battery grip too. Too uncomfortable. :keke:

[exitspeed]

i have a 70-200L

F/4 instead of f/2.8 but still hotsauce

got it for $475 used

That's my next lens.

[s14_legend]

anyone have experience with the new sony's it definitely feels great to hold...i was playing with the in store model...all the pictures came out crisp...but that doesnt say much about a camera.

[Pank]

that says more about a lens and the user.
have you looked at the images on a computer? the LCD screen makes everything look crisp and more contrasty than normal

[monkey7]

Check this site out for camera reviews
http://www.dpreview.com/
Also check out Rob Galbraith's page.

At times I don't like lugging around my stuff and wish I had a leica m6.

[AutoKA24DE]

dp review ftw

also www.stevesdigicams.com

[Mathetai]

Well to add to my old thread a few months ago... The XTi with lenses that I got for fathers day is gone. You fellas were right. I bought a 40D kit about a month ago and I am really happy. I need to find a good zoom/telephoto lens. Any experience with the 70-200? Thanks again! I hate that my 28-135 creeps out when you aim down. Sux!

[exitspeed]

Well to add to my old thread a few months ago... The XTi with lenses that I got for fathers day is gone. You fellas were right. I bought a 40D kit about a month ago and I am really happy. I need to find a good zoom/telephoto lens. Any experience with the 70-200? Thanks again! I hate that my 28-135 creeps out when you aim down. Sux!

The 70-200 f4 is a great lens for the price. I don't own one but I borrow my friends pretty often. Amazon usually has it for like $600.

[Pank]

if you want to go even cheaper, the 55-250 IS f/4-5.6 has great image quality, and is less than 300. Plus it has image stabilization. the 70-200 blows it away though, but if you want something with more range on both ends, its not horrible at all

[Mathetai]

if you want to go even cheaper, the 55-250 IS f/4-5.6 has great image quality, and is less than 300. Plus it has image stabilization the 70-200 blows it away though, but if you want something with more range on both ends, its not horrible at all
Im going to look into that. Thanks.