240 on steroids

[tater]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> I have a little project that i have just about got done!
I have got a 90 240sx with a 347ci ford under the hood. The car puts out 562hp and 540tq at the rear wheels. The project is a true sleeper. if I was parked next to a stock 240 you cannot tell the differance. running is a dif story! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> so Im just looking for some feedback on the car. THANKS,
TATER CREATIONS
(ME)
someone please tell me how to put pics on this? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cry:'>

[Red Comet X]

I'll believe it when I see it

[RacerBoi]

Yeah i agree. You need to post some pictures or give us more details. Like the mods to the engine. What type of tranny are you using? What kind of rear end?

[KiDyNomiTe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Comet X @ Nov. 17 2002,12:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'll believe it when I see it</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
What he said.

I'm not saying that it can't be done, but its just odd that someone just pops out of nowhere with a car like this. Get some pics, I know you have the money for a camera <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Dinkage]

Maybe an audio file would be good too so we can hear this bad boy.

Heather

[-E-]

yeah pics would be good

[hookedup240]

Yea i really want to see this because i had a friend who wanted to put a 350 in my car but i really didn't have the money for him to do it. &nbsp;Would've been crazy amounts of torque

[CoasTek240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RacerBoi @ Nov. 16 2002,1:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah i agree. You need to post some pictures or give us more details. Like the mods to the engine. What type of tranny are you using? What kind of rear end?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i don't care if you have the best story in the world, and are fully backed up by supportive evidence showing you've done this swap, i'm from missouri(not really) "show me"

[S13Slide]

you can send the pics to me and i'll post em, [email protected]

[PARAD0X]

I'll host them too.... [email protected]

[Itsuki]

I think thats stupid you just wrecked a good car by putting a ford motor in it!

[BadMoJo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Itsuki @ Nov. 17 2002,2:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think thats stupid you just wrecked a good car by putting a ford motor in it!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, cuz we all know Ford cant make a motor because its an American company.... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>



Now bow down to the 347 stroker power BITCH! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Itsuki @ Nov. 17 2002,4:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think thats stupid you just wrecked a good car by putting a ford motor in it!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That was the most ignorant statement i've heard in a while

Yeah, i'd say sounds kinda made up a bit. My friends 355 puts out 400hp at the crank. To make a 347 put out 560hp at the wheels - implies 600hp+ at the crank, would require some major $$$ and if u had them u prolly won't be working on a 90's 240 ( side note: 600hp that's what a 383 would put out decently tuned). But great car if it is actually putting out those numbers <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[Itsuki]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, cuz we all know Ford cant make a motor because its an American company....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

No if you want an american motor buy and american car. its MY OPINION that when you put a v8 in an import car your dumb. and if you think im ignorant ok.

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Itsuki @ Nov. 17 2002,5:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, cuz we all know Ford cant make a motor because its an American company....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

No if you want an american motor buy and american car. its MY OPINION that when you put a v8 in an import car your dumb. and if you think im ignorant ok.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
We all have opinions. The important thing to realize is that others don't really give a shit about yer opinions, and can think differenty from you. If you like it, post a thumbs up. If you don't, why post at all? It's not like he is asking for your opinion. He just gives you information.

[whateverjames]

it's a good thing peoples' opinions don't mean shit. i'd love to see a v8 in a 240 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

[Bbandit]

i dont see any pictures yet? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>
where could it be? &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'>

[SilviaDriver]

noticed hecka newbies postin

also, ppl who think its stupid putting diff engines into other diff types of cars is stupid

pics would be nice to back up ur claim. if i dont see pics ima go ahead and raise the BS flag

[PARAD0X]

he's not BSing...here's the pic he just sent me


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid39/p9f696266688096a3b1a10fb2e9d792f2/fd08200d.jpg

[kid_nissan]

sweet dood

[sykikchimp]

NICE!... &nbsp; can you get some different shots closer to the engine bay? &nbsp;that is a COOL project! &nbsp;GIVE DETAILS!! &nbsp;what custom work had to be done? &nbsp;driveshaft? &nbsp;notch the crossmember? &nbsp;did you have to mess with the firewall?

[AKADriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kid_nissan @ Nov. 18 2002,07:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">sweet dood</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you can say that again <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

[uiuc240]

d00d. &nbsp;that ish mounts soooo low. &nbsp;he must have some crazy stuff going on with the front cross member. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

Eric

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uiuc240 @ Nov. 18 2002,10:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">d00d. that ish mounts soooo low. he must have some crazy stuff going on with the front cross member. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

Eric</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, thats what i was about to say... although its a ford engine and all i can compare is chevy, so it might be actually not as tall....)

[misnomer]

Very very nice. Definitely need more details, some close up pics of that. What made you decide on that particular engine? How long has this car been in the making? We're all pretty damn impressed, man! :-)



and. . .

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No if you want an american motor buy and american car. its MY OPINION that when you put a v8 in an import car your dumb. and if you think im ignorant ok. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

You are more than welcome to your opinion, and more than welcome to voice it. That's what these forums are for. But, what makes you ignorant is you seem to feel your opinion is more valuable than ours. Feeling it's just not kosher to put a motor from one region into a car from another is all fine and dandy, calling people who do it dumb is not.

[gabossie]

I'm impressed. Could you tell us a little more about it and have you dynoed it yet? Also, any idea how the swap affected the weight balance? It looks like it sits really low. Very cool <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Itsuki @ Nov. 16 2002,6:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, cuz we all know Ford cant make a motor because its an American company....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

No if you want an american motor buy and american car. its MY OPINION that when you put a v8 in an import car your dumb. and if you think im ignorant ok.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You're a knob gobbeling troll. That is MY opinion. Sucks, because his car will probably school yours in all points of show. Stupid to put a USDM motor in anything but a usdm car? Wow! your showing your ignorance, you little rice slut you.



That ride owns! Now please tell me your going to set it up for more than just dragracing!? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[KiDyNomiTe]

Sorry for the doubt, but nice car, give more info, its not everyday we come across something like this.

And about the whole domestic engine, in an import thing. Who gives a crap about all that stuff, I used to be all anti-domestics, but when you open your eyes you realize that it is just a stupid war. I just wish everyone would love the cars for being cars, I mean they all get you from point a to point b (some faster than others, but still do the job)

[sykikchimp]

interesting thing is asad on FA did some calc's on this, and that motor with aluminum parts is actually almost the identical weight of the KA24DE. &nbsp;The tranny is heavier, but that is behind the front wheels, and closer to the center of the car, so it makes less difference. &nbsp;Essentially this car should handle almost if not just as good as the 240 with a KA in it.

What kind of mods do you have on the engine tater? &nbsp;We are foaming at the mouth for info here man!!

[misnomer]

Heh, y'know if I had that car to play with, I wouldn't be posting much on zilvia.net either <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[nismo270r]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Nov. 17 2002,6:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Itsuki @ Nov. 17 2002,5:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, cuz we all know Ford cant make a motor because its an American company....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

No if you want an american motor buy and american car. its MY OPINION that when you put a v8 in an import car your dumb. and if you think im ignorant ok.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
We all have opinions. The important thing to realize is that others don't really give a shit about yer opinions, and can think differenty from you. If you like it, post a thumbs up. If you don't, why post at all? It's not like he is asking for your opinion. He just gives you information.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
First off all, if you read tater's post, he IS asking for feedback on the car. &nbsp;Yes, I realize that Itsuki's manner of posting his opinion wasn't the most tactful, but no need to bicker over something like this. &nbsp;If you want to complain to someone, please PM them.

And Tater...to answer your question about posting pics in the forum, look at my reply to when you posted a thread asking how to post pictures. &nbsp;Here it is in brief:

First you need to host the picture online...if you've got webspace, just upload your pics. &nbsp;If you don't, just sign up for something like a Geocities free homepage.

Second, when you are typing in your post to a thread, just click the "Image" button above the window you are typing in and type in the URL of the picture file. &nbsp;If you are still having trouble PM me.

[adey]

Okay so I don't know jack about american engines, especially not 302s, 347s and 350s. &nbsp;That said, I'm curious as to which domestic engines are as finely tuned and as "work-of-art"-y as a 13/20b(t), SR20, CA18, B16, B18C(5), RB26, 2JZ, 1JZ, 4AG or _any_ BMW engine. &nbsp;Please enlighten me!

[CoasTek240]

"AMAZING"

[AKADriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Nov. 19 2002,01:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Okay so I don't know jack about american engines, especially not 302s, 347s and 350s. That said, I'm curious as to which domestic engines are as finely tuned and as "work-of-art"-y as a 13/20b(t), SR20, CA18, B16, B18C(5), RB26, 2JZ, 1JZ, 4AG or _any_ BMW engine. Please enlighten me!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Probably none, by your definition. &nbsp;The beauty of it is, they don't have to be. &nbsp;Much more power, much less money, who gives a crap?

Of course if you cared to look into it, you'd find the current generation of V8 powerplants every bit as impressive as anything from Germany or Japan. &nbsp;Check out the LS1/LS6, Northstar, Chrysler 4.7 SOHC and 5.7 Hemi, and the Ford modular series 4.6 and 5.4. &nbsp;There's some amazing engineering there.

[SimpleS14]

Nice, but Ford motors and/or domestics are not really my thing. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[red98s14]

Very nice.

What are you using for engine management?

David

[RacerBoi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Okay so I don't know jack about american engines, especially not 302s, 347s and 350s. That said, I'm curious as to which domestic engines are as finely tuned and as "work-of-art"-y as a 13/20b(t), SR20, CA18, B16, B18C(5), RB26, 2JZ, 1JZ, 4AG or _any_ BMW engine. Please enlighten me!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> The chevy 350 could be compaired to the b16 in the department of aftermarket support. Someone told me that the 350 is the engine with the most aftermarked parts for it.

[KiDyNomiTe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Nov. 19 2002,01:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Okay so I don't know jack about american engines, especially not 302s, 347s and 350s. That said, I'm curious as to which domestic engines are as finely tuned and as "work-of-art"-y as a 13/20b(t), SR20, CA18, B16, B18C(5), RB26, 2JZ, 1JZ, 4AG or _any_ BMW engine. Please enlighten me!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The Lingenfelter Vette (Twin Turbo Corvette, i think they made it 7.0 Liters) did win some Car And Driver thing, against an FD, CLK something or other, and some other cars, but this was a while ago.

One of my friends (domestic guy) put it best, whatever you can do to an import, you can do to a domestic, and vice cersa, it might take more money to do something to a certain car, but you can still do it.

Although I still think Germany has the best overall cars <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> .

[Nismo+FoMoCo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The chevy 350 could be compaired to the b16 in the department of aftermarket support. Someone told me that the 350 is the engine with the most aftermarked parts for it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
True, well- not just the 350 but the whole smallblock chevy lineup
The ford smallblocks (289, 302("5.0"), and 351W) are a close second
I'm a long-time ford person, but bought a 95 240SX SE back in may, and now i'm playing both games

Tater- that is an awesome ride, the wonderful ford V8 power, and the 240's legendary handling... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>