HID kits

[SilviaDriver]

well, my s14 H4s are doing that well, they shine very poorly, bearly any light emitted at all!. i constatly have to use high beam to see the road. and becuz i use high beam so much, i had to angle it down a big so it wont shine too much in the persons face. im pretty much fed up wiht it cuz i cant see a damn thing and worry if ill hit something at night. i was wondering which HID kit is the best? i seen many and they all look the same to me, but i read on FA about them some are better than others. i also have a pair of s15 headlights here becuz ill be doing the conversion, and for now i wanted to put the HID kit on my normal s14 headlights, and when i finish the conversion ill transfer it over to the s15 headlights, but right now i need to know which HID kit is the best, since i have so damn poor lighting


the s14 uses H4s for low beam
the S15 uses H1s for low beam

so would that mean, if i get a HID kit for the s14 they wouldnt fit for s15 becuz bulbs are diff?? man i dont understand this shit

from wat i read is the 9006k the highest on the light chart? [or watever u wanan call it] where does the H4 stand?

main, since ill be doing the conversion..wat is the correct kit to get for the s15 since they use H1s

[Dark]

When you buy the HID kit what you basically get is the ballast and the light bulb. Now the ballast can light up any type of bulb provided by the HID kit manufacturer. So when you switch to S15 lights all you have to do is buy the H1 bulb from the manufacturer. You don't have to do anything else.

McCulloch HID has a 5000k kit that can use either the H4 or H1

So if you want a 9006k HID kit you need to know if the company offers both bulbs for the kit your interested in.

If you want to learn more about HID go to

Club 4ag (http://www.club4ag.com) in the refrences section you will find an article on the subject.

Hope this helps &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[SilviaDriver]

the thing i dont understand is those numbers

9006k 5000K i know its read by kelvins and reference by this chart i guess

http://images.team-integra.net/~team-int/images/articles/faq/headlights/headlight05.jpg

where does 5000K stand? would it mean its blue purple kinda look?

9006K is wat? size or something like H1 H4?

[Dark]

H1 and H4 are the type of housing used by the light bulb your S14 has H4 type housing the S15 uses H1 type housing. If you want a kit for an Integra you need to know the type of housing.

I had to do a search but this should explain 5000K and 9006K

The look of any bulb is measured in degrees of Kelvin or just K. This tells you the color temperature of the light (nothing to do with operating temperature). If you stare directly into the sun you will see that it produces an extremely white light! Sun light is 5250K many HID systems produce about 4300K. Most vehicles equipped with standard halogen bulbs have a light output around 3200K.

So basically 9006K is brighter than 5000K I'm not totally sure about this but the 9006K probably gives the blue or purple light that you see in luxury cars.

[Dark]

Did some more searching hope this helps

3200K -----> 5000K -------> 6000K

yellow ------> white ------> white/blue

3200K is normal halogen as you go higher the light becomes more intense and crisp so the road becomes clearer.

H1 and H4 have nothing to do with light performance it's used to identify the housing unit.

[HaLo]

I dunno about pricing on the kits but I have a friend that is selling his complete HID kit (ballast and bulbs) for S14 with the headlamps housings. &nbsp; Simply plug and play.

He's asking 625$ obo.

[SimpleS14]

So your saying that I have to buy a kit for the H4's and changed the bulbs to H1's? or just buy the H1 kit?

I'm confused because I'm stuck on getting my lighting to work since my old lights used H4 and my new ones use H1.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

[Dark]

GT specR If you are using a H1 housing at the moment then all you have to do is order a HID kit made for the H1 housing. However if you are using a H4 housing at the moment but would like to use a H1 bulb for your S15 lights in the future then all you have to do is replace the bulbs when you install the S15 lights. Even if you didn't have a HID kit you wouldn't be able to use the S14 bulb in the S15 housing you would have to order bulbs that would fit the S15 which happens to be a H1 bulb. All HID kits use the same ballast (source of power) to save on manufacturing costs what differs with each kit is the type of bulb needed for your specific car.

[Dark]

A picture is worth a thousand words I guess.

The first picture is of all the light bulbs that could be interchanged in a HID kit

The second is of the balast that powers all these bulbs.


http://www.mccullochhid.com/pics/5000K.jpg

http://www.mccullochhid.com/pics/ballastblk.jpg

[SimpleS14]

Ok, so the ballast is powered up by the same sources regardless of what type of housind you have?

I wonder what powers up the ballast? at first I thought is would be your socket that you would use to power up your headlights (H4).

edit: How can you convert H4 into H1?? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[SilviaDriver]

lets say i do get a HID kit for H1, wat about the plug that powered up the H4? would i juss leave it dangling there?

GT Spec R: wat do u mean convert H4 to H1? u mean on normal wiring or HID?

MODs: i think this should go into "Archive and FAQs" y? becuz i was clueless of headlight and HID..juss everything. and i thought "Dark" explained it very well, now i understand it

[SimpleS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilviaDriver @ Nov. 15 2002,7:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">GT Spec R: wat do u mean convert H4 to H1? u mean on normal wiring or HID?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I meant normal wiring, but I think I figured it out. &nbsp;Just give me a week and I will have an answer. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

[Dark]

Here is an article on installing HID

HID install (http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=350)

Converting from H4 to H1 depends on the Kit you buy. In some kits all you have to do is remove the bulb in other kits more work needs to be done. First find a kit you like then contact the company that makes/sells them for conversion details.

For example http://i-bmw.com/hid/les_final/Image1.jpg

[SilviaDriver]

well now that i understand HIDS [thanks Dark] does anybody know which HID kit is the best? i heard Gourmet Garage was [one in pic] and that Phillips is also good. but i wanna know which one is the bset out there. and i guess ill be buying the H1 HID kits and juss save it till conversion is done

[kanekz]

I just installed a HID kit on my S14b this week. I got the 4300K H4 kit. Let me just say, what a world a difference! It is very bright. 4300K is comes out moslty white (which I like). I was also confused about the H4 and H1 situation because I would like to change my front end pretty soon to S14 MC. I hear that they use H1 for their low beams, so I was like what am I going to do. What is sounds like from Dark, I guess I just replace the H4 bulbs to H1.

I'll have pics up soon. I am sure that with the S14a projectors, the light will come out more defined. Right now its like a "spread shot" (Nintendo - "Contra" : old skool game) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp; I love it though

[Dark]

More detail in later posts

[YellwMonky]

is it possible to get an HID kit for the s13?

[Dark]

You should all you need is a H4 sealed housing like the one at PDM (http://www.pdm-racing.com/specials/specials.html) are there better housings out there?

But I wonder if the pop up mechanism would interfere? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

I need to look into that.

[Dark]

S13 HID install (http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/august02/240sx_hid/)

feeling good &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[Dark]

Warning Take a look at this website HID FAQ (http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/general-faq.htm)

From what this website says anything above 6000K is probably fake 7000K-9000K HID bulbs are coated to give blue/Violet. I'm going to do some more research but I need to catch some <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'>

[SilviaDriver]

well i have a question, im looking at a group buy here and this is wat it states.

Price will be $450 for the single beam kit, $500 for the dual. Prices include shipping in the 48 States. Available applications: H1 H7 H4 (single or dual beam) 9006 9004 9007

wat do they mean by $500 for the dual does that mean that kit you can use for low and high beam at the same time? that you get 4 bulbs or something?

[Dark]

Okay here goes.

I have come to the realization that very few kits out there can give you the exact same results as OEM HID lights found in luxury cars like BMW, Mercedes etc and when they do they cost quite a bit

For this reason I have decided to write this guide.

Before buying a kit please know the following. No OEM manufacturer makes any bulb versions with more than ~6000K. So you either get a 6000K bulb, or a bulb that might have been painted. (Painting bulbs decreases brightness and in most cases decreases life). You have been warned. Some kit and bulb suppliers advertise kits with 7000K and higher. This seems shady to me because a 7000K bulb (very recently available) costs around $500 a pair.

Are HID kits "Plug and Play" as advertising says?

From what I read upgrading your light system is NOT a plug and play affair. Every single HID kit pusher just wants you to believe that. If you want to know which kits will be easy to install go find a review or Install page. I have found two installs both use McCulloch HID kits on their cars and both were satisfied with the results.

Does Philips make HID conversion kit?

No, anyone trying to sell you a kit made by Philips is a scam. Bulb and ballast might be made by Philips, but Philips will only be a 3rd party supplier of parts to the person or company that puts the kit together.

Does Hella make HID conversion kit?

No - for the same reason as above.

Can I use the same HID kit when I change my housing to another type?

The answer is yes but you have to use a bulb that will be compatible with the new housing. Each bulb right now costs around $140 so the conversion isn't necessarily cheap. For those with S13's you if you want to get maximum results go with clear H4 housings you will get better results.

Dual hid kits

The only advantage to HID high beams is that you get a brighter STABILIZED light source, but it's downhill from there. When HIDS are first turned on, the legal MINIMUM light output is met in less than a second. However, HID's don't achieve full brightness until the metallic salts in the HID capsule are completely vaporized, which could take up to a minute (or more) on some setups. This means they wouldn't be much good for FTP or extra light on demand. Turning HIDs off and back on again continuously in traffic passing situations would mean many hot re-strikes of the HID arc, which shortens HID capsule life and requires MORE startup current than a cold capsule, thereby putting added wear & tear on your wiring and switching components. (In some "Dual HID kits" switching to high requires turning of the low beam for 1 to 3 seconds. Which means that for the duration you will be in total darkness this can be very dangerous for you or others.) Some kits go around this but the quality of light is very poor compared to LOW BEAM HID KITS.

None of the above is a problem with a "bi-xenon" setup, since the high/low is accomplished thru a mechanical moving shield or moving HID capsule, and the actual HID capsule output remains constant, with no warm-up or hot re-strike required. hidkits.com sells Bi-xenon setup for around $750 but I have not seen any reviews regarding the quality of this kit.

[Dark]

If you want to buy a high quality HID kit then you can get them from.

http://www.mccullochhid.com/

or

http://www.autolamps-online.com (http://www.autolamps-online.com/home.htm)

Autolamps offers Bi-xenon kits called "H4 Hylow" using Philips balasts and bulbs for $735 please note that this kit was made for H4 housings only