View Full Version : Susp help. What do you guys make of this?
3-240's-N-aMule
04-21-2008, 05:06 AM
I need help with this.
First up is rear driver side. My coil isnt maxed out and can prolly go another inch so no problem here.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q25/dandanjames/PIC_0007.jpg
This is rear pas (obviously) and this is the problem. This coilover is maxed out and wont go any lower...
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q25/dandanjames/PIC_0008.jpg
Before anything, my frame is straight, I took both coils off and switched them to see what would happen and the right side still wont go lower, wtf? I matched settings on both coils while they were off car. I even rolled it a few yards to make sure my susp. wasnt binded. The right side just seems to not wanna compress even when i maxed it as low as it will go. So im hoping someone here can help me cuz im stumped. No my pass fender isnt on perfect but its lined up decently. Thanks in advance!
cotbu
04-21-2008, 05:54 AM
I'm not a wheel or suspension guru, it looks like there's more neg camber on the drivers side! Maybe some negative on the passenger side will fix you up. IDK:)
3-240's-N-aMule
04-21-2008, 06:30 AM
Naw dawg. They are both at about 3 1/2 and even so, camber wouldnt keep my pas side from being 3 inches higher than it should be. Thanks though.
murda-c
04-21-2008, 06:40 AM
Are your springs the same length? What about the shocks?
Don't know if they'd even bolt on but maybe you have one s13 rear?
EDIT: nvm you said you matched them off the car.
Is your tire hitting anything?
steve shadows
04-21-2008, 09:39 AM
why the hell are you soo low?
is this a low rider?
a show car?
or a race car...
bigOdom1
04-21-2008, 09:43 AM
to begin with the over fenders are not even so its never gonna be even with appearance if the springs are at the same height
naed240sx
04-21-2008, 10:29 AM
I have this same problem, although its not quite as extreme. Also with the rear right, and I'm pretty damn sure my car has never been wrecked as I personally checked over every inch of the frame.
Check to make sure that your swaybar(both front and rear) are not preloading one side of the suspension. Then check your front coilover heights.
After that, if you still have bad issues, you don't really have much of an option and something is definately wrong with the frame. My car used to sit perfect and now it sits at a slight tilt. I have a theory that driving a lot of miles on coilovers without having a cage produces chassis warp due to driving over big potholes and/or three-wheeling up driveways.
So I don't have much advice to you other than taking it to a frame shop, having them check the chassis, and if it is warped either twisting it back and welding in a cage or getting a new chassis and welding in a cage before ever driving it on coils.
S14DB
04-21-2008, 10:45 AM
to begin with the over fenders are not even so its never gonna be even with appearance if the springs are at the same height
yeah I have to agree the over fenders look to be the problem. Frame looks to be the same distance from the ground on both sides.
naed240sx
04-21-2008, 10:52 AM
I don't think you guys are reading his post correctly. His driver's side still has an inch of adjustment left, and his passenger side is maxed out. Looks like if he dropped the driver's side coilover all the way that he would have like a 2" height discrepancy. Fender fitment cannot account for 2".
S14DB
04-21-2008, 11:02 AM
There is a lot of adjustment in rear over fenders. Seeing how they don't look the same on both sides and there are a lot of threads of improper fitment of them. I reserve judgement till we can confirm the frame is in fact lower on one side than the other.
I still want to know his frame to floor on both sides.
crzycav86
04-21-2008, 01:37 PM
when you matched the settings on the coilovers, did you check to make sure they had the same amount of preload too? or just the mount-to-mount length?
3-240's-N-aMule
04-21-2008, 03:35 PM
Omg are you guys jokin about my fenders? Look at the fuel door beneath the fenders. Its lined up perfectly with the body like. Only thing off is it could go to the right a lil bit more but thats it. I am talkin about my wheels should be tucked more than my driver side at this point. Problem is not the fenders........ I know this. Thanks.
S14DB
04-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Then measure Frame to Floor.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/Zilvia/FrameHeight1.jpg
gprb25
04-21-2008, 04:11 PM
My guess would be camber or swaybar links. But since you have ruled those two out...I'm stumped also.
You should take some better pics under the car and with the wheel off so we can get a good look at the suspension setup and how its sitting.
Someone also mentioned pre-load. That could be a culprit. Did you adjust the preload of the springs at all?
EDIT: What coilovers are you running? Are they CST's? (from the look of them)
3-240's-N-aMule
04-22-2008, 05:33 AM
My guess would be camber or swaybar links. But since you have ruled those two out...I'm stumped also.
You should take some better pics under the car and with the wheel off so we can get a good look at the suspension setup and how its sitting.
Someone also mentioned pre-load. That could be a culprit. Did you adjust the preload of the springs at all?
EDIT: What coilovers are you running? Are they CST's? (from the look of them)
I havent ruled out the sway bar and i actually havent even looked at that. Just the camber.
I fudged with the preload on the passenger side cuz i thought it was that at first but it wasnt.
Yeah they are cst's. Hopefully its my swaybars or maybe my coil is being block by a bolt or something.
Thanks for the ideas and ill let yall know.
gprb25
04-22-2008, 09:23 AM
Well with the swaybar, you could simply take it off or just unbolt it if you don't wanna hassle with running it back over the exhaust. See if that free's up any room.
With the preload...I would loosen the bottom perch under the spring until you can move it by hand. Then hand tighten it as tight as you can, then give it another full turn or two. Try to get it as even as possible.
When I put my coilovers on, I had to switch my toe bolt around because it was hitting the body of the coilover. It didn't affect the height or hang anything up, I think, but you should be able to see that easy.
Try these few things and let us know what you find out. Dope wheels BTW!
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