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Driftapparel.com
04-15-2008, 03:03 PM
Heys guys it's Brett,

not sure if anyone has heard this yet but read it and let me know what you think. I am definately going to do it!


THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY
BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET
GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.30 PER GALLON.



This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive.



It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton.



If you are tired of the gas prices going up

AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this please.



Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.



This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
It's worth your consideration.



Join the resistance!!!!

I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.



00 a gallon by summer

and it might go higher!!

Want gasoline prices to come down?

We need to take some intelligent, united action.



The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.



It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.



BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can Really work.



Please read on and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is super cheap.



Me too!

It is currently $3.28 for regular unleaded in my town.



Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75.



We need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace...not sellers.



With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.



The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas!

And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.



How?

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.



But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.





Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year

DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.



If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.



If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.



But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers.



It's really simple to do!

Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...

keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 30 people.



If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ..

and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...

and so on.



By the time the message reaches the sixth group of people

we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.



If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each

then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it.....

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.



That's all!

(If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people....

Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician.



But I am . so trust me on this one.



How long would all that take?

If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt.



All 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!
Acting together we can make a difference.



If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.



I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES

TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN.



THIS CAN REALLY WORK.



Keep it going

SlidewayzDotNet
04-15-2008, 03:07 PM
It wont work trust me Mobil has one of the best/cleanest gas out there and we own 2 stations.

downshift_sideways
04-15-2008, 03:08 PM
I guess I'll contribute ,since I don't by gas from those companies anyways.

jackjack
04-15-2008, 03:09 PM
i never buy from mobil anyway. so i guess i'm ahead of the game?

but yeah, F gas prices. i'm getting a bike this summer.

s14_legend
04-15-2008, 03:09 PM
speak on it ... been using 76

ILoveMyRHS13
04-15-2008, 03:13 PM
This has been around for more than a year now... Obviously hasn't worked. There is only 3 exxon/mobil stations that I can think of in a 25 mile radius, here, anyway

Ian
04-15-2008, 03:15 PM
i use BP and Liberty regularly...I don't really know of any Mobil or Exxon around here

steve_o1989
04-15-2008, 03:15 PM
Pfft gas here is $1.23/ LITER. So we are paying $4.92 a gallon. It is fucking rediculous, yet there is nothing that we can do about it. Crude goes up a dollar, gas goes up $0.10. Crude comes back down, gas stays the same. The thing that gets me though is that we have a shit load of oil up here, the Athabasca tar sands in Alberta are estimated to hold 1.6 TRILLION barrles of oil. With current extraction methods, 315 billion barrles are recoverable. Where im from, in Saskatchewan, there is a shit load of oil too, just not so much of it is being extracted, which is about to change. Plus, we have a refinery in the city and we are still getting raped at the pumps.

inertiaticism
04-15-2008, 03:16 PM
Chain emails are so fucking stupid.

I buy from Shell exclusively since my gas card is there.

origin_s135
04-15-2008, 03:17 PM
fuck gas prices, i'm getting a prius soon.

Driftapparel.com
04-15-2008, 03:20 PM
well try posting this on your myspaces too and see what happens. I'm just saying if we all hit this really hard maybe just maybe. If anyone posts on other forums do the same and maybe it will eventually make it to the news or something ya know

-Brett

Driftapparel.com
04-15-2008, 03:22 PM
I completely agree but I honestly started hoping on this one.




Chain emails are so fucking stupid.

I buy from Shell exclusively since my gas card is there.

jskateborders
04-15-2008, 03:23 PM
you do realize that exxon/mobil provide to other gas stations right......
So the same amount of gas will be sold, just from different stations....
who happen to get their gas from exxon or mobil.
So this idea = fail
and that whole myspace type gets on my fucking nerve

da da da da da da


dadadadadadaad

dadadadadada....

so.......

dadadadadad

ILoveMyRHS13
04-15-2008, 03:24 PM
Like I said, this one has been going around forever now.

Driftapparel.com
04-15-2008, 03:28 PM
lol well crap I guess there is no winning at all. I knew you guys would know whats up thats why I posted as soon as I heard about it.

s14_legend
04-15-2008, 03:30 PM
behhh big corporations suck balls

downshift_sideways
04-15-2008, 03:31 PM
It's negative attitudes that contribute to the uber failure of these type of actions.

Now if we said. We'd give you $5 to spread the word. All your ass's would have been PMin and Emailing everyone.

Driftapparel.com
04-15-2008, 03:38 PM
It's negative attitudes that contribute to the uber failure of these type of actions.

Now if we said. We'd give you $5 to spread the word. All your ass's would have been PMin and Emailing everyone.

:werd: I think its worth a shot lol not the 5 bucks but spreading the word

duffman1278
04-15-2008, 03:41 PM
I use 76, so I guess I'll continue using 76 lol I think its worth a shot to spread it, people may say "it'll never work" but it wont hurt us to try.

pink godzila
04-15-2008, 03:43 PM
My family only use Shell... so I only pump Shell into my 240..

bbejj123
04-15-2008, 03:44 PM
behhh big corporations suck balls
:werd: oh well

drftwerks
04-15-2008, 03:46 PM
i dont mind paying the 4/gal im paying now, and if it goes up, well, ill be getting a bike....cycle, but still will be paying that $4+ / gal.

oh well.

Driftapparel.com
04-15-2008, 03:47 PM
My family only use Shell... so I only pump Shell into my 240..


Shell V-Power is the absolute best F-ing gas at the pump. (respectively guys)
I only use V-power as well

kensreliableb18b
04-15-2008, 03:48 PM
if you know economics and accounting then you'll know that these dumb tactics will never work. and even IF, there were even the slightest chance of public action affecting gas prices, it would in fact RAISE prices.

people eat this stuff up because it's what they want to hear. just like: lose 50Ibs in 5 days without exercising!!! don't believe me? just buy this POS product I'm selling!--that i invented while digging a hole to get rid of the overflowing water from my toilet *cough*

ahh i love this stuff tho. keeps the world going 'round.

glitched
04-15-2008, 03:50 PM
this is useless. Two things that really point out how dumb this is.

1.) its not so much that oil prices are going up, bu its that the Dollar is going down.
2.) oil companies do not set the price of oil.

Teddy
04-15-2008, 03:52 PM
I buy gas at Arco generally so...

I'll send this to some friends.

drftwerks
04-15-2008, 03:54 PM
INFACT, i WOULD LIKE TO PAY MORE FOR GAS, but like every other country, that pays out the ass for gas.I WANT THE EXTRA MONEY AND TAXES TO GO INTO PUBLIC TRANSPORT.

Zilvia4eva
04-15-2008, 03:58 PM
Gas averages $6-$9 a gallon in most other countries....its are turn to join the rest,get used to it guys.

We are still lucky to have gas prices as low as they are....and the funny part is that we have not even tapped into oil rich Alaska or Montana like we shood be...:nono:

BustedS13
04-15-2008, 03:58 PM
INFACT, i WOULD LIKE TO PAY MORE FOR GAS, but like every other country, that pays out the ass for gas.I WANT THE EXTRA MONEY AND TAXES TO GO INTO PUBLIC TRANSPORT.

you realize this is a car forum, right? you're supposed to like driving cars, not riding the bus

hippie

its are turn to join the rest

ow, my brains.

ericcastro
04-15-2008, 03:59 PM
Sooooooo.

We get the gas prices to drop right when society is realizing that we REALLY need to look into alternative energy. Hybrid and alternative energy cars are now being made by all companies and have been legalized in the states.
Seems like going back to a Fosil fuel that will run out by the year 2050 is back tracking. it will just create a biger problem later down the road.

The government is taking the steps to push us slowly towards alternative energy before Fossil fuels run out and create a catastrofic problem. the transition just sucks.

and the second thing is, the 2 gas stations you are boycotting will just sell thier gas to other companies since the consumer demand isnt going down at all. Its just being sent through different channels. So they could care less too.

Silverbullet
04-15-2008, 03:59 PM
It's negative attitudes that contribute to the uber failure of these type of actions.



Why don't people get it? It is not in their control at all.

There are SO many different factors that affect the prices of gas that you and I don't even think about or even considered had a connection to gas prices.

For one, our economy plays the biggest factor in the gas prices. The US dollar has been getting weaker over the years, and in the past few months, it has been plummeting. So in our perspective, foreign currencies are soaring. Because other country's currencies are worth more, they are able to purchase more oil at the same dollar value (in the market, oil is valued in dollars). And they do just that.

Considering the FDIC is preparing for numerous bank closings in the next few years... i dont know what to say other than we are just hurting ourselves if we boycott any oil company. If you havn't noticed, almost all of them are pushing a ton of research into alternative energy sources in the past few years. Why? because we have to, and our race would be pretty fucked if we stick to oil.

Sure, i wish gas prices were a little less, but theres a bigger picture behind it all.

ericcastro
04-15-2008, 04:01 PM
BTW, the sooner we make the transition to alternative energy vehicles. the longer we will be able to run our 240s :) So make the switch so that we can keep soon to be classic cars and grass roots motor sports alive for another 50 years

luftrofl
04-15-2008, 04:09 PM
This is the worst idea I've heard in a long time.

GTFO and go back to facebook.

drift freaq
04-15-2008, 04:22 PM
this is useless. Two things that really point out how dumb this is.

1.) its not so much that oil prices are going up, bu its that the Dollar is going down.
2.) oil companies do not set the price of oil.


This is correct but not the complete picture.

Why don't people get it? It is not in their control at all.

There are SO many different factors that affect the prices of gas that you and I don't even think about or even considered had a connection to gas prices.

For one, our economy plays the biggest factor in the gas prices. The US dollar has been getting weaker over the years, and in the past few months, it has been plummeting. So in our perspective, foreign currencies are soaring. Because other country's currencies are worth more, they are able to purchase more oil at the same dollar value (in the market, oil is valued in dollars). And they do just that.

Considering the FDIC is preparing for numerous bank closings in the next few years... i dont know what to say other than we are just hurting ourselves if we boycott any oil company. If you havn't noticed, almost all of them are pushing a ton of research into alternative energy sources in the past few years. Why? because we have to, and our race would be pretty fucked if we stick to oil.

Sure, i wish gas prices were a little less, but theres a bigger picture behind it all.

This is incorrect, basically What is going on is this.... The U.S. dollar is weakening due to the recession and financial lending situation. In the process of this were people would normally invest in U.S. currency because its normally relatively strong they are investing in Oil. The price of Oil is high due to this and market speculation. The commodities market is a volatile business with a lot of speculators.
These guys literally rule the prices of Gas,Oil,Food, etc.. through speculative futures trading. Because of the weak dollar these guys are betting on oil, now when you take that combined with investors buying on the speculation of higher crude costs thats exactly what happens higher crude costs.
Now Bush in his infinite lack of wisdom has not helped this situation. Through the promotion of corn based ethanol which was endorsed and promoted by Bush and his adminstration. Who by the way was lobbied by the corn growing states farm coalitions lobbiests. We have a situation were the more corn is pushed to ethanol production and less to eating corn. Now add into that the farmers switching to growing ethanol producing corn and you have less foodstuffs. less Foodstuffs drives up the commodities prices of Foods in general. That fuels inflation, Infation is part of what fuels a weaker dollar. Add it all up in the mix it spells weak dollar and recession. Flight from investment in the dollar and into oil.
What could Bush do to temporarily possibly strengthen the dollar and drive oil prices down? Open up the strategic Oil reserve thereby creating a glut of oil on the spot market and pushing oil prices down. Oil prices drop, productivity increases dollar gets a little stronger. Will he do this? Most likely not. He has no interest. He is leaving office in a half year and he makes money off high oil prices himself. After all he is a Oil man.

bigOdom1
04-15-2008, 04:28 PM
this message was actually sent out from a mobil/exxon chairman

NismoB13
04-15-2008, 05:31 PM
America needs to stop buying their big cars such as hummers, huge SUV's, and people that don't use trucks for their intended purpose.

steve shadows
04-15-2008, 05:37 PM
spraying silly string all over them would be more effective:hitit:

or you could spray wet slow drying spray paint on all the pump handles late at night, the traffic in and out of the stations would slow

shrugs

there are lots of creative ideas to stage a strike

suicide is the best

tsx1racer04
04-15-2008, 05:44 PM
I don't know if this may help our gas situation. But it seems that there's is a oil deposit somewhere in Canada. But the problem is that the oil/petrol we need from it is frozen into the sand. Currently it'll cost around ~$25-30 for each barrel to be processed, which is approximately what it cost to ship each barrel to the United States from Saudi Arabia. From a source that I have forgotten, I remember it says "Rivals that of Saudi Arabia". Im not sure if this is a reliable source http://www.rense.com/general37/petrol.htm, but seeing that it may not help us during this summer with all the fun trips we won't be making this year. Perhaps in the future gas prices will fall due to Canadian oil sands.

Bushido
04-15-2008, 07:13 PM
how infantile it is to think that we can lower gas prices by not buying it a few days of the week or from a certain company...

in case you didn't know:
THE WORLD RUNS ON GAS

especially in this country we are addicted to gasoline, even our borderline retarded president has acknowledged this. Oil companies got us by the balls and there is nothing we can do about it, except for ride a bike, or drive an electric/veg oil/compressed air vehicle.

inertiaticism
04-15-2008, 07:54 PM
you realize this is a car forum, right? you're supposed to like driving cars, not riding the bus

hippie

Yeah, it would suck to save $300.00 a month that I could sink into my S14.
It also sucks sitting in a comfy bus, listening to an ipod, reading the newspaper, while all of the other stooges sit in bumper to bumper traffic and yell at each other while burning pricey gas and doing the kind of driving that is worst for your car.

Let me tell you, my love of driving and automobiles could not manifest itself in any better way than sitting in traffic like a retard wasting money that I could be spending on parts or track time, ruining the air so I can't even have a damned cookout in the summer without a gas mask on, and getting so mad I could shit anvils because everyone else on the road is a trainable retard.

Also, bullet trains are neat and I wish we had them here.

morbid
04-15-2008, 08:04 PM
That's never going to work.. as soon as mobile prices go down, people are going to start buying it because its cheaper, and it will just go back up. That is a lot better then the dont buy gas for one day BS though.

LA_phantom_240
04-15-2008, 08:05 PM
Gas averages $6-$9 a gallon in most other countries....its are turn to join the rest,get used to it guys.

We are still lucky to have gas prices as low as they are....and the funny part is that we have not even tapped into oil rich Alaska or Montana like we shood be...:nono:

No. Fuck that. Its not 'our turn' to pay out the ass for absofuckinglutely ridiculous gas. Wanna know why other countries pay so much? They don't have oil. They don't have resources. They don't have shit.

The reason we have cheaper oil prices is because we HAVE oil. We HAVE resources. Unfortunately our demand is greater than we can produce.

Also, its not that we don't have enough oil, but rather not enough refining capability. More and more refineries are getting shut down, and no new refineries being built because of stupid people and their 'not in my back yard' mentality. They want cheaper gas, but they don't want to be near the refineries and such. You can't just fucking poof gasoline out of thin fucking air.

Ninjabread
04-15-2008, 08:06 PM
^^ haha agreed.

I ride public transport to school.

it's 1/2 the price of seasonal parking ticket, don't have to BUY GAS, and avoid traffic. just chill out and listen to some tunes.




But ya, having studied micro / macroeconomics, I can tell you that there are FAR MORE factors influencing gas prices than simply demand. This shit will never work.

Psycho 240 Freak
04-15-2008, 08:13 PM
Don't you just love it how everyone loves to criticize like they know everything, yet they don't come up with solutions. Way to go for bending over and taking it up the @ss!

BlackTopBomber
04-15-2008, 08:14 PM
i have a better idea. you want gas prices to come down, and your planing to not buy from the two biggest oil suppliers in the world for said amount of time. it will never work. those 2 supply to probally half the gas stations and companies in the US. if you really want to make a difference, and this takes a lot of people as a whole to pull off. what needs to happen is get the major trucking firms to go on strike for 1 week, 1 week only. now if i understand things correctly, most of the truck drivers in the US are part of the teamsters union. if you can get all of them to go on strike as a whole, you have something. from what i have heard there have been several small trucking firms that have gone on strike recently.

the kicker here is, if the 3 largest trucking firms go on strike here, it will cause a massive loss for the US economy as a whole. and we all know if things can't get where they are going, nothing sells. a one week strike by the 3 largest trucking firms will damn near bankrupt the us economy. and if shell, exxon, and what ever the other leaders are, if they can't get there product to market they loose more than we can probally count. now i'm not going to give a bunch of numbers and statistics as to what kind of damage this will or can cause to there pocket books, but it would be huge! think of it like this. count how many 18 wheelers you see on the freeway every day, think of how many there are through out the US. now, think of how much fuel they hold. average truck to my understanding takes around $1100.00 to fill up once, and gets them around 800-1000 miles. if you have trucks that are driving 2000 miles a week, thats costing the company a lot of money, especially when they have a fleet of 50+ trucks.

now the greatest part about this is it does not even have to happen. all that has to be done, is to instill the idea into the people who run the unions. and get it to be taken seriously. just the words of a strike on that scale will cause the ones in charge to think about what is going on, and if they can risk letting it happen. now it would never happen without numbers. people have the power here, its our doing that gas prices are this high, its our doing that we have let the people in charge run rampant for the last few years. but we do have the power to change things, all we have to do is get the ball rolling, and things will carry themselves!

LA_phantom_240
04-15-2008, 08:15 PM
Don't you just love it how everyone loves to criticize like they know everything, yet they don't come up with solutions. Way to go for bending over and taking it up the @ss!

The way I see it, there isn't much I can do at the moment. I don't have any kind of connections, money to invest, nukes....


Nukes would be nice.

drift-it
04-15-2008, 08:30 PM
In order to do something we need a lot of people to boycott the gas stations until we get down to a reasonable price like under 2 dollars. Not for a day for like 2 weeks or a month of everyone using bikes, walking, public transportation. And let it be known, maybe contact news stations or something. It can't be a cute chain letter to post on myspace for a day because then most of those people that don't buy gas for that day will buy gas the next day.

Matej
04-15-2008, 08:34 PM
This boycott was probably made up by the competing oil companies haha.

Anyway, I find it ridiculous that while the rest of the world has been paying 6$ a gallon for the past 10 years, Americans are able to drive SUV's to work.
This artificial economy is what's responsible for the upcoming recession, instead of being competitive with the rest of the world, America's economy has been in its own bubble, and now the bubble is about to pop because it can't stay around forever.
One of the main flaws is that over here anyone is able to take out a loan for anything. I'm not talking just individuals, everyone does it, big businesses, organizations, the government, debt runs deep. While it's a great thing for us as individuals to be able to buy things on loan, it's really bad for the economy. Now there's billions of dollars floating around that no one will ever see because the money doesn't exist.

Gas will only go up until it levels off at about what other countries are paying, and there's nothing we can do about it, except being smart with our money.

babowc
04-15-2008, 08:53 PM
Chain mails like this..
ugh.

you fail.

Like many others said, as yourself, those two are main gas companies. They feed gas to every other gas stations around the nation. You think by boycotting THEIR gas stations, they'll reduce the prices?

THINK AGAIN!!!

scooz14
04-15-2008, 08:56 PM
exxon and mobil are the same company

http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/



nice chain email

ayuaddict
04-15-2008, 09:37 PM
just choose a race. preferably a race that is easily distinguishable from others and of which the majority drives a car.

Japanese Americans.

perfect.

genocide.

kill me = less demand.

Gnnr
04-15-2008, 09:40 PM
From what I learned in Microeconomics.

Gas has inelastic demand. It doesn't matter whether you buy it or not, the price will stay the same. The demand does not affect its selling price.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_elasticity_of_demand

Good luck though.

JVDSKYRINE
04-15-2008, 09:54 PM
From what I learned in Microeconomics.

Gas has inelastic demand. It doesn't matter whether you buy it or not, the price will stay the same. The demand does not affect its selling price.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_elasticity_of_demand

Good luck though.


True that! makes the most sense yet! and this is a rediculous idea cuz you don't buy gas for one day but you still go back the next day and more people buy gas?? hmmmm soo same amount of gas is sold but just on different days?

Tops*
04-15-2008, 09:55 PM
LISTEN!

Cut out a hole in your floorboard (now if your car already has a diamond plate floorboard like the Eclipse from F&F, you're already set), park your car over a reservoir, and siphon gas.

HA.

SR20d2fourT
04-15-2008, 09:59 PM
Never do buy from them. yay.


Plus, I'm riding my ZX6R nonstop :) Fuck filling up in the fowty.

landins13
04-15-2008, 10:06 PM
I cant run on anything but c16 so this makes no difference,

Grenade180sx
04-15-2008, 10:26 PM
heres the currert prices from around the globe.


Nation (http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/nation.html#table)City (http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/city.html#table)Price in USD Regular/Gallon
The main factor in price disparities between countries is government policy, according to AirInc, a company that tracks the cost of living in various places around the world. Many European nations tax gasoline heavily, with taxes making up as much as 75 percent of the cost of a gallon of gasoline.

In a few Latin America and Middle-East nations, such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens,


Netherlands Amsterdam-$6.48

Norway Oslo-$6.27

United Kingdom London $5.79

Croatia Zagreb $4.81

Ireland Dublin $4.78

Switzerland Geneva $4.74

Spain Madrid $4.55

Japan Tokyo $4.24

CzechRepublic Prague $4.19

EstoniaTallinn$3.62

BulgariaSofia$3.52

BrazilBrasilia$3.12

CubaHavana$3.03

TaiwanTaipei$2.84

LebanonBeirut$2.63

South AfricaJohannesburg$2.62

NicaraguaManagua$2.61

PanamaPanama City$2.19

RussiaMoscow$2.10

Puerto RicoSan Juan$1.74

Saudi ArabiaRiyadh$0.91

KuwaitKuwait City$0.78

EgyptCairo$0.65

NigeriaLagos$0.38

VenezuelaCaracas$0.12


EXXON MOBILE IS GOVERNMENT OWNED, Therefore they charge what they want to a consumer, i mean really get real here kids, these are tycoons they own most of the kwiki marts and up to the full on mobile stations.

the problem with rising gas is WE NEED HIGHER LIVING PAY.

min wage in UK is i believe somewhere around 10-15 dollars.( feel free to correct my mistakes)

oil companies cant stop and wont. its a business folks.

genericforumname
04-15-2008, 10:52 PM
theoretically this could work but seeing as how most of America is too damn stupid to buy anything but huge ass SUV's that cant do anything but destroy smaller cars in a basic fender bender, I don't think you could coordinate that many people on this high a level. I don't even think most people know what company they get their gas from I think a more productive use of your money would be to just buy an electric car.

oh, and by the way buying a hybrid to save money is a dumb idea, with the increased sticker price you would have to have the car for almost 12 years on some models before you would see the "savings" , the only vehicle that might save you money on gas is either a scooter or a motorcycle.

Gnnr
04-15-2008, 11:13 PM
theoretically this could work

No it can not. I already explained how the theory is economically flawed.

ichibans13
04-16-2008, 12:09 AM
You know why this wont work? Because the price of oil is based on the stability of the OPEC Nations. Everyday oil companies believe that it is the last day they will be able to sell oil, therefore the price goes up. If tomorrow, no more oil is produced because that nation goes under, they want to make their money today. Point blank. The OPEC Nations are a volatile area, who knows when the oil will stop. People are greedy, and want their money now. We continue to buy gas at these ridiculous prices, and even if tomorrow everything was normal over there, the price wouldnt drop, because they're selling oil at $113 a barrel right now. Why drop prices if the US market is paying so much?

MaD1337M3DRiV3r
04-16-2008, 12:20 AM
... because they're selling oil at $113 a barrel right now. Why drop prices if the US market is paying so much?

Has the price of a barrel gone up? Or is the US Dollar weak?

I'd say both, however there is an upside to all this.

The US can now be an attractive place for tourists and this helps the US exporters.

genericforumname
04-16-2008, 12:21 AM
No it can not. I already explained how the theory is economically flawed.


yes it can, prices have dropped on gas in the past, at least in Florida they did. I mean shit, in about two weeks they dropped liked 40 cents or something before they started going back up

EJ253
04-16-2008, 12:24 AM
i dont even buy gas.

i ride my fixie everywhere
it summer time

well i guess i buy gas on the way to the track haha
my budget on gas is like 15 bucks a month haha

wangan_cruiser
04-16-2008, 12:31 AM
[quote=Grenade180sx;1971282]
EXXON MOBILE IS GOVERNMENT OWNEDquote]



if its a government own. then i guess there is a reason why they try to raise the price on gas. due to the war they need to make more WAR MONEY to support the war. errr

flytwa78
04-16-2008, 12:42 AM
On Guam, all our gas is from the same company, Shell. 76, and Mobil gets their gas from them here on this island. If shell goes up, the next day the other two goes up.

Gnnr
04-16-2008, 12:48 AM
yes it can, prices have dropped on gas in the past, at least in Florida they did. I mean shit, in about two weeks they dropped liked 40 cents or something before they started going back up

I did not say gas prices can not drop, I say they will not drop as a result of a change in demand.

sijia10358
04-16-2008, 12:57 AM
whenever we fill up the government gets half of that money as taxes and more then half of the rest goes to the company and the little left over goes to the gas station...so..the government is making a lot of money here!

KiLLeR2001
04-16-2008, 01:06 AM
I knew I should of bought all the gas I could of 10 years ago when it was like $2 a gallon.

genericforumname
04-16-2008, 01:10 AM
if anyone has a serious problem the only solution is to run your vehicle on some non-gasoline derivative, meaning no vegetable oil either as the oil companies can just start selling that, so pretty much either solar or electric powered vehicles are the only long term answer.

p.s. just as a little history lesson, when the first cars were designed, built and sold, steam was the most popular, followed fairly closely by ELECTRIC with gasoline being a distant third, as people viewed mini explosions powering vehicles to be dangerous, so why can't we have electric cars that aren't tiny as hell 100+ years later......(especially with cool as shit ones like the tesla)

issac
04-16-2008, 01:56 AM
The federal reserve banks are the ones making the money off the wars.

JayDee M Rolly
04-16-2008, 03:01 AM
if anyone has a serious problem the only solution is to run your vehicle on some non-gasoline derivative, meaning no vegetable oil either as the oil companies can just start selling that


not exactly, the vegetable oil doesnt need to be new, it can be used from a restaurant, oil companies arent gonna sell that now are they?

handinpants
04-16-2008, 03:28 AM
I read something along the lines of this letter last year. oh and it's already at $4.45 a gallon of 91 octane here in Los Angeles, it's also going to keep going up because our economy is in a recession and inflation is making our dollars less valuable. regardless, i still need to drive my car, and as long as the car runs happy, i'm happy :o)

on another note, when are we americans going to become smarter and get smaller more efficient gas and diesel cars like they have over in japan and europe? a 600cc van that looks gangster with a few mods, we can't go wrong with that?

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/1606/suzukiwagonrfinalmedium0ik.jpg

JRas
04-16-2008, 12:58 PM
I already don't buy from those companies

^ that van is lame that's why

dynamicck
04-16-2008, 01:14 PM
If you don't know about the oil industry a big part of it is "Standard Oil"... Rockefeller's old oil company. Read near the bottom of the wikipedia article, and see this company had to break up into smaller ones. Over time, and as Anti-Trust laws weakened... these smaller companies emerged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Oil

s13.dark1
04-16-2008, 01:25 PM
i never buy from those companies anyways!!! im game lets get them gas prices down this 4 dollar shit is bull.

BustedS13
04-16-2008, 01:53 PM
i'm buying all my gas from the mobil next to work from now on
fucking ridiculous

Brian
04-16-2008, 01:59 PM
I don't want a bunch of poor people driving.

Look how much traffic I have to deal with everyday.