An Amazing Kill Story!

[SilviaSR20DET]

I have a 1997 240sx base auto and I raced a 2002 base RSX Manual. We both have full catback and Intake. I raced three times and won 2 of them and those 2 races were like a car length ahead. What a great night it was <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> The first race was a bad start and he won by like an inch! I was very impressed of how well my car performed as opposed to manuals. I thought i would lose badly since he has a 5 hp advantage over me because the RSX is 160hp and 240's are 155 and the rsx is lighter. I got lots of props from people that saw the race. Just cant believe i beat a manual!

[adey]

haha... no offence meant, and I don't mean to hurt your feelings (or ego), but I would bet that he was just a bad driver. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> &nbsp;He has weight, drivetrane and HP advantage!

[SilviaDriver]

well, lets give the RSX guy the benefit of the doubt, lets say he IS a good driver. how far did u run? if it was a longer track and he WAS a good driver u would lose due to hp. but if your running a short distance its all about torque to jump out ahead and stay ahead for that short distance.

[Potatoskins02]

base model RSX's have a good amount of torque. I believe its 145 which is not to shabby....

[SilviaDriver]

well i dunno the amount of torque they have but i konw their ivtec does give em 40% more torque.

even if they have 145, still not enough to jump out, and plus they are FF

[DC5]

you forgot to mention that you got the launch on all 3 times coz I was spinning my shitty michelins throughout 1st and 2nd on the WET road.

also missed 3rd gear on the 3rd run... but i guess a loss is a loss &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[CoasTek240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DC5 @ Nov. 15 2002,12:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you forgot to mention that you got the launch on all 3 times coz I was spinning my shitty michelins throughout 1st and 2nd on the WET road.

also missed 3rd gear on the 3rd run... but i guess a loss is a loss <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
there you go. thats crucuial info as to why you won.. why'g you leave that out...hehehe
DC5, i love RSX's <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[DC5]

240's are pretty sweet too...
silvia,
We should run next week when i get my Potenza s-03s. One condition though: It has to be dry out. hehe. I know, i'm a pussy but i hate playing "catch-up" in the wet.

My car felt, more sluggish as the night wore on. must be the friggin SRI. I guess you were right when you said cold air intakes do make a difference.

anyway, CAI....here i come

[Kreator]

Yeah, just to finish it off though. 240s with auto run 17.*s in the quarter. That's what my 88hp escort runs with a stick shift. So basicly it will put up a fight with an auto 240. And RSX has 150 hp. I mean he gotta be a reaaally bad driver to lose that in fair conditions. But he was tire spinning so there is and excuse <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>. I actually lost to a 98 auto corolla in the wet cuz i couldn't have tractin till like almost the 4th gear <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[DC5]

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The first race was a bad start and he won by like an inch


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I beg to differ. I still spun the tires like a mofo but i managed to close the gap. It was way more than an inch...I could see the headlights in my r/view mirror. I was pulling hard at the end of 3rd gear...if only the road was a lil longer...

Base rsx's have 160hp and 141 torque.
No more racing in the rain for me. Sometimes, I hate FFs (w/open differentials) &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[SilviaSR20DET]

Next time DC5, We'll see who wins in the dry! By the way did i mention i didnt go all out at the beginning of all the races except the first? Next time we race im going to power brake and go full throttle! Its going to be a close race but im pretty sure u will win in third gear. See you next week!

[Integraholic]

4th gen Integras are pretty. &nbsp;Especially the Pearl White and the Blue ones. &nbsp;Sounds like it'd be a pretty good race in fair conditions too. &nbsp;But hey, a kill is a kill.

[BboyOxygen]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SilviaSR20DET @ Nov. 17 2002,11:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Next time DC5, We'll see who wins in the dry! By the way did i mention i didnt go all out at the beginning of all the races except the first? Next time we race im going to power brake and go full throttle! Its going to be a close race but im pretty sure u will win in third gear. See you next week!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Power brake? You are an idiot.. Lets see, I'm going to race someone and not punch the gas to the floor.. WTF? I love 240s and not trying to talk shit about them, but dont go and say that you won, and not mention that it was wet, then say you werent flooring it.. I floor it every time I race and it doenst matter if I know i can win or not.

[DC5]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> hoping conditions will be dry on friday/sat.

Then we'll see who's the one who will have to play catch-up.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[sykikchimp]

base RSX's have 131 ft lb of torque.. &nbsp;rsx-s has 132.

[DC5]

I stand uncorrected on the fact that the base rsx has 141 tq. The S has 142. Unless you're talking about wheel tq... which would be pretty hard to predict without a dyno graph.


The base has a flatter torque curve though which peaks at an earlier engine speed (4000 rpm).
http://www.acura.com/models/model_specs_index.asp?module=rsx

[sykikchimp]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DC5 @ Nov. 17 2002,3:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I stand uncorrected on the fact that the base rsx has 141 tq. The S has 142. Unless you're talking about wheel tq... which would be pretty hard to predict without a dyno graph.


The base has a flatter torque curve though which peaks at an earlier engine speed (4000 rpm).
http://www.acura.com/models/model_specs_index.asp?module=rsx</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
DOH.. ny bad.. &nbsp;I was going from memory. &nbsp;I knew they were only 1 ft lb apart though. &nbsp;My roommate has a type S.. &nbsp;I almost got one too.. &nbsp;f*in sweet car. &nbsp;:drool:

[CoasTek240]

yes!... check it out:
This is why everything you are talking about is so inconsequential (http://www.speedstacks.com/qt_lg.html)

[Phlip]

I was expecting to hear something about a 240 beat the holy hell out of a stang or something at the strip... Instead, I hear another Nissan vs. Honda story. Great, guys, you DO realize that street racing is illegal and the fast and the furious was not a good movie?

[/etc/shadow]

<!--QuoteBegin--Potatoskins02+Nov. 16 2002,08<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Potatoskins02 @ Nov. 16 2002,08<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">base model RSX's have a good amount of torque. I believe its 145 which is not to shabby....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually it's 142 for the Type S, which is less than my stock 1990 S13's 152. I raced a modified Type S around some bends recently. I did a 2500 dump, he did what sounded like a 4000 dump. I raped him all the way through 1st and the bottom of second... at some point his vtec kicked in and he caught up. We were getting into traffic pretty much neck and neck and I backed it off because I have no faith in RSX handling and we were approaching some pretty hardcore speeds.

[/etc/shadow]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Nov. 16 2002,6:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, just to finish it off though. 240s with auto run 17.*s in the quarter. That's what my 88hp escort runs with a stick shift. So basicly it will put up a fight with an auto 240. And RSX has 150 hp. I mean he gotta be a reaaally bad driver to lose that in fair conditions. But he was tire spinning so there is and excuse <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>. I actually lost to a 98 auto corolla in the wet cuz i couldn't have tractin till like almost the 4th gear <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
What kind of crack are you smoking? A base RSX has 160 hp. A KA24DE-powered 240sx has 155 hp and 160 ft-lbs versus the RSX 160 hp and 141 ft-lbs (or 142 ft-lbs if you go type S). The weights are just about the same. It's not all that hard to believe that a 240sx could be in front of an RSX type S, let alone a base model.

[CoasTek240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CoasTek240 @ Nov. 16 2002,5:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yes!... check it out:
This is why everything you are talking about is so inconsequential (http://www.speedstacks.com/qt_lg.html)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
personally i think as long as everyone looks at this you wont even car.. hahaha

[DC5]

yea...street racing is illegal. But then, so are a lot of other things. In my opinion, if you do it along a deserted stretch of road, secluded from everything else, with the people who are watching behind the starting line, the only people at risk are you and your opponent.

But yeah...street racing is bad.

And F&F was a pretty bad movie. Who the hell turns the steering wheel while launching at a 4 car race? That just doenst make sense

[DC5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A base RSX has 160 hp. A KA24DE-powered 240sx has 155 hp and 160 ft-lbs versus the RSX 160 hp and 141 ft-lbs (or 142 ft-lbs if you go type S). The weights are just about the same. It's not all that hard to believe that a 240sx could be in front of an RSX type S, let alone a base model.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I highly doubt that a (KA) 240sx would be in front of a type-s for long. Sure, it might get the jump at the launch because of the higher torque...but the S will catch up pretty fast. Traction is always an issue with hondas, with the exception of S2000s.

[DC5]

James,
How's this for your "Amazing Kill Story" &nbsp;? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Smoked! (http://www.imagestation.com/video/p...l?id=4245260748)

[SilviaSR20DET]

DC5.... You really think that night was really that wet? Man your potenzas aint shit compared to drag radials so dont expect a huge increase in traction. Plus it will have almost the same traction due to the same rims so it will help you better in cornering rather than acceleration and your car is a FF. That night me and you raced was for sure dry enough other wise id peel out too like when we raced up the hill. Well we will see if those potenzas of yours gonna smoke me! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':evil:'>

[dorifto240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Posted on Nov. 16 2002,7:52
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Ok, the topic says an "Amazing" kill story......
I'm still waiting.........</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

yeah, when I posted on killing a porsche, all i got was crap... this story isnt even interesting.......

[SilviaDriver]

enogh of this BS "hey i beat a RSX!" "hey i suck at shifting" shit..quit racing on the streets and take it to a real track already, go put on some slicks burn out..and run the damn thing.

[DC5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">DC5.... You really think that night was really that wet? Man your potenzas aint shit compared to drag radials so dont expect a huge increase in traction. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

The road can only be wet or dry. And that night, it was WET.
Hmmm... potenzas on a dry road vs. all season michelins on a wet road. Go figure. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That night me and you raced was for sure dry enough other wise id peel out too like when we raced up the hill. Well we will see if those potenzas of yours gonna smoke me</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

you bringing up the argument about peeling out? FWD manual vs. a RWD auto. Who do you think will peel out more with the pedal to the floor? Go figure again. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pissed:'>

[Foxcolt]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> &nbsp;LOL!

This is hilarious!

Please keep going! Who's got the most mods?? &nbsp;Get an exhaust and the extra 3hp will smoke that rsx! Or next time put it in 1 and shift up to drive you'll get more power that way.


<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

This brings back memories of when my two friends each had 93 auto accords. One got exhaust and started winning races then the other got exhaust and intake and started winning. Then I got my 240 and started winning. We'd argue just like this. Funny...

Jed

[SilviaSR20DET]

THats it DC5, I had my window partially down and you said you peeled out all the way to second? You were only peeling out through 1 st and caught traction at second so dont say you peeled out all the way through second. Also you have an an advantage of having a FF manual because you have more power to the wheels then an auto RWD. And remember i shouldnt be a competition to you, your racing with an auto that has 86000 miles on it. This friday will determine whos the fastest!

[SilviaDriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Foxcolt @ Nov. 18 2002,10:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> LOL!

This is hilarious!


<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yea its pretty funny, and gay at the same time. two lil boys aruging on a forum about "yea i can beat u" "i made this mistake" when they could be arguing in real life. no need to post it

[DC5]

...happy to provide entertaintment for you guys...
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

i just wanted to prove my case coz silvia is all up bragging about killing a base rsx and he conveniently forgot to mention that it was wet out.

I'll get the chance to prove my point on friday. I'm tired of arguing with facts...Silvia's too much of a 240sx enthusiast. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>

BTW, silvia: &nbsp;RWDs DO launch better.

[SilviaSR20DET]

Ok DC5 Your On! Im not a 240 enthusiast as much as you are with your RSX, at least i dont check out other cars forums everyday! Im not too happy about my car cause its an auto im just trying to prove that your car aint all that fast as you claim it is thats all. And stop saying it was wet man, if it was wet you wouldn't go anywhere and me too. PS, you keep thinkin your racing against a manual. You better win because hella people will talk hella shit about your car and laugh at you. Lots of pressure my man! &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> Good luck on friday!

[DC5]

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[DC5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And stop saying it was wet man, if it was wet you wouldn't go anywhere and me too. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Do you seriously believe that the road was dry? Why didn't you mention that it was wet out when you first posted?

You're right. I didn't go anywhere. And you think you were barely moving coz you were peeling out? I think you're the one who keeps thinking that you have a manual. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>


I never claimed my car is fast. It seems like you are the one who's out to prove that you're faster. All I'm saying is, that I wasn't getting traction at all that night coz it was wet. Then you try to tell me that it wasn't wet at all.

Like you said, all the pressure is on me. People expect me to be faster. And basically what it seems like you're saying is that:

1.) It wasn't wet outside
2.) Even if it was wet, it still wasn't wet enough to affect traction.
3.) That because it wasn't wet, I didn't lose traction, and you weren't going all out... you still smoked me by a car length. Which either means, there is something wrong with my car, I'm a friggin bad driver, or your car is a monster freak.

And I'm viewing it thru a different perspective coz I really believe that traction was the main issue for me that night.

Now that all's been said, we'll just have to see on friday/sat then. Depending when its dry.







<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> BTW: Don't get the Pioneer 12"s. Much better deals at Ikesound.com. Alpine type-Rs!!!

[SilviaSR20DET]

DC5, It was not wet to the point where if you did a turn hard enough it will slip. What im saying is that is was kinda wet and plus im not the one saying my car is a sleeper... seems like your going for the sleeper look but why? your car isnt even one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzzz:'> &nbsp;. Im not thinking my car is faster, i expected you to win by alot thats all. Ask greg, he did an excellent job at the start on traction, he didnt peel out as much as you claimed you did. &nbsp;But maybe it is the way you drive your car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[DC5]

There's a difference between creating a "sleeper" and keeping it clean.My car would be a sleeper if i had a turbo hidden somewhere under the hood. But I don't. =(

You expected me to win by a lot? You gotta be kidding. Our cars are probably the most evenly matched among all the others. Except maybe for transmission. That's like me expecting to race a 2.5rs and lose by a large margin because of his 5hp and AWD advantage.

[AceInHole]

about the FF vs FR wet traction thing.... maybe it's that I had cooper cobras, but my friend's saturn wagon definitely hooked up better in wet weather than my S13 did. &nbsp;that plus the gearing on his car left me waiting for 3rd gear to start pulling up to him.... (maybe it's also because his car is plastic??)

[Integraholic]

I got an amazing kill story. One time, I beat this old guy. He was on one of those 3 wheel Rascal scooters. I so smoked him. He even had the basket mod on his front handlebars. He got me off the line, but I reeled him back in. I think I had about a Rascal length on him at the end of the quarter mile.

Here's what I think about this thread.

http://www.ius.edu/ndelaney/xanga/dontcare.gif

[DC5]

if that really is you in the pic(s), I feel really sorry for you.
You sure are a pathetic looking mofo. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DC5 @ Nov. 18 2002,09:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if that really is you in the pic(s), I feel really sorry for you.
You sure are a pathetic looking mofo. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':withstupid:'>

Shut up, the both of you, no one cares! Like some one else posted one slow car beating another, whoop-de-fucking-do.

[Integraholic]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DC5 @ Nov. 19 2002,08:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if that really is you in the pic(s), I feel really sorry for you.
You sure are a pathetic looking mofo. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No its not me smart guy. &nbsp;I was simply stating how stupid this thread was while having some fun doing it. &nbsp;Next time we post an amazing kill story, lets make it amazing. &nbsp;More along the lines of you beating me. &nbsp;Now that would be amazing <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[DC5]

It wasn't me that started this whole "Amazing" kill thing. Like almost what everyone else has stated... I don't see what's so amazing about 2 slow, evenly-matched(almost) cars racing in the rain. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

I just popped in here to set a few things straight that silvia left out.

What's your ride? A gs-r?

[FlyiNh]

Wow. this is pitful.
DC5, i wouldn't take all this bullshit from these guys if i was you.

You guys obviously have no idea..
that slow-slushboxed 240 will get spanked by RSX base on track.

Me, my buddy[02 accord v6], and my other buddy[02 rsx base 5-spd] went to track about a month ago.
Last NHRA track day. Temp was about perfect to race.

Accord V6[15.8] lost to RSX base[15.5].
For any of you un-educated human beings, Accord V6 features 4-spd auto[no manual avail.], 200 horsepower and 196torque which will spank that 240 auto.

So you can guess what it would be like given equal drivers and good conditions.
Streets, anything happens. Take it track, thats where real shit goes down. You will have no chance. I mean NO chance at all. 0%.

BTW, RSX-S is totally different story, its top-end is one of the best between I4. Perhaps, probably the best out of all of them. Pumping out 100hp per liter, when i-vtec 2nd butterfly opens at around 5300rpm, that car will just fly by, like you stopped. Dont even try against Type-S.

[Integraholic]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FlyiNh @ Nov. 19 2002,10:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW, RSX-S is totally different story, its top-end is one of the best between I4. Perhaps, probably the best out of all of them. Pumping out 100hp per liter.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Or the I4 in the S2000 pumping out 120 HP per litre.

BTW DC5, &nbsp;Yes, I have a GS-R.

[DC5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Next time we post an amazing kill story, lets make it amazing. &nbsp;More along the lines of you beating me. &nbsp;</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

What would be so amazing about a base rsx beating a gs-r? Unlikely, maybe...but by no means amazing.

FlyiNh: Finally, someone who actually has facts to back up an argument!
15.5 is actually a pretty good e.t. There's this guy with a modded base rsx up at clubrsx.com who ran a 15.1xx.
Exhaust, header, 20psi in front tires, and CAI. &nbsp;
His CAI helped drop his time by about .3 seconds. &nbsp;He had an Injen SRI before he switched.

[Integraholic]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What would be so amazing about a base rsx beating a gs-r?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> A mid 16 second car beating a mid 14 second car would be quite amazing. &nbsp;And those Accord V6's are slow as a dog takin a crap at the North Pole.

[FlyiNh]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Integraholic @ Nov. 20 2002,03:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What would be so amazing about a base rsx beating a gs-r?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> A mid 16 second car beating a mid 14 second car would be quite amazing. And those Accord V6's are slow as a dog takin a crap at the North Pole.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Obviously this retarded creature with integra doesn't know what his talking about.

And I bet this guy doesn't even own GS-R. He doesn't even know about his own car.
Base RSX 5-spd isn't mid 16 second car you and GS-R isn't mid 14 second car.
1.8 Liter Teg GS-R pumping out 170horses and 128torque
versus 2.0 liter RSX base pumping out 160 horses and 141torque.
oh WOWWW.. i see some amazing differences huh?
Not to mention that K series motor is way responsive to mods than B series.
Oh yea, and one more, you own 99 teg with OBD-1, so its even worse. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'>

You are sooooo stupid and pathetic. You are probably some alcoholic crazy ass post whatever gets in your dumb brain.

[Foxcolt]

oh man. I wish we had a stupidist post of the century archive. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

Bottom line: When racing cars so closely related to each other. (As in stock) The best driver wins the race. No point in arguing which car is faster because there are way to many variables to get an accurate decision.

Start arguing about who's the better driver. That'll be funny <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

Jed

[negular]

post whores! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;.... wait a minute... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'>

[Integraholic]

<!--QuoteBegin--FlyiNh+Nov. 20 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FlyiNh @ Nov. 20 2002,09<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>7)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Obviously this retarded creature with integra doesn't know what his talking about.

And I bet this guy doesn't even own GS-R. He doesn't even know about his own car.
Base RSX 5-spd isn't mid 16 second car you and GS-R isn't mid 14 second car.
1.8 Liter Teg GS-R pumping out 170horses and 128torque
versus 2.0 liter RSX base pumping out 160 horses and 141torque.
oh WOWWW.. i see some amazing differences huh?
Not to mention that K series motor is way responsive to mods than B series.
Oh yea, and one more, you own 99 teg with OBD-1, so its even worse. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'>

You are sooooo stupid and pathetic. You are probably some alcoholic crazy ass post whatever gets in your dumb brain.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Alright. I'm going to put it to you as simply as I can. My GS-R is an OBDII. Honda switched to OBDII after the 96 model year. OBDI used one O2 sensor before the cat. Which is why you can remove the cat without throwing a CEL. OBDII has an O2 sensor before the cat and an O2 sensor after the cat. Learn what you're talking about before you start talking. Also, my car puts down consistent 14.6's and once hit a 14.5. If you want the timeslips, I'll be more than happy to send them to you.

Oh and BTW, OBDI responds better to mods than OBDII

Edit: If you dont believe me, just go to www.team-integra.net and ask the guys in the performance forums if I have an OBDI or OBDII

[FlyiNh]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Integraholic @ Nov. 20 2002,2:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Alright. I'm going to put it to you as simply as I can. My GS-R is an OBDII. Honda switched to OBDII after the 96 model year. OBDI used one O2 sensor before the cat. Which is why you can remove the cat without throwing a CEL. OBDII has an O2 sensor before the cat and an O2 sensor after the cat. Learn what you're talking about before you start talking. Also, my car puts down consistent 14.6's and once hit a 14.5. If you want the timeslips, I'll be more than happy to send them to you.

Oh and BTW, OBDI responds better to mods than OBDII

Edit: If you dont believe me, just go to www.team-integra.net and ask the guys in the performance forums if I have an OBDI or OBDII</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
First of all, oh Oops. forgot add one more "I" for it.
obviously newer one is OBD-II. 94-95 tegs with OBD-I would be best tuner friendly.

And yes, please post a timeslip, and a picture of timeslip number on your car, because its easy to fake a timeslip. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

Of course, Modded GS-R could hit 14s. Thing is, stock vs stock GS-R runs 15.3~15.7. RSX base 5-spd runs 15.7~16.0

So is that an "amazing" difference?
Like what I said before, my friend with shortram and exhaust hit 15.5 easily even with his newbie driving(first year/time driving manual, only drove for 3months. and was first time at the track when hit 15.5).

So you can guess how much potential K series has.
Don't go out there in the streets underestimating RSXs.
cause they will make you feel like your brain is going to pop.

[Integraholic]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FlyiNh @ Nov. 20 2002,6:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">First of all, oh Oops. forgot add one more "I" for it.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Heh, I would believe that had you not acutally put the number 1. &nbsp;Anyway, I can e mail you the timeslips. theres three of them scanned together. &nbsp;I dont have a pic of the number on the car, but hey, since you're so skeptical, you'd probably just say I went out and took the picture with the number written on the car after earlier today. &nbsp;It really doesnt bother me all too much. &nbsp;Oh, and that 15.3 to 15.7 for stock GS-R's is just a magazine number. &nbsp;I know tons of people running stock GS-Rs to 15.1 to 14.9 areas. &nbsp;Just go to www.indyimport.com or www.indycarz.com and ask what I ran. &nbsp;30 or so people saying the same thing cant be wrong <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.

[FlyiNh]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Integraholic @ Nov. 20 2002,7:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Heh, I would believe that had you not acutally put the number 1. Anyway, I can e mail you the timeslips. theres three of them scanned together. I dont have a pic of the number on the car, but hey, since you're so skeptical, you'd probably just say I went out and took the picture with the number written on the car after earlier today. It really doesnt bother me all too much. Oh, and that 15.3 to 15.7 for stock GS-R's is just a magazine number. I know tons of people running stock GS-Rs to 15.1 to 14.9 areas. Just go to www.indyimport.com or www.indycarz.com and ask what I ran. 30 or so people saying the same thing cant be wrong <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
hA! Yea whatever you believe, whatever you think.
Just remember I had 1998 SBP GS-R. All I had was blitz NUR-spec 3in exhaust. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>
Yea Yea i know, but hey i got it for free so give me a break. It was insurance coverage for my totalled 93 E36.. Some idiot put in 3in exhaust for Inline 4s. now thats truly retarded.
Oh well. I sold that right away and got my E46.

About you hitting mid 14, obviously you gotta list the mods.
With mods in b-series, any time is possible.
Anybody can mod their car and hit 14s. thats no big deal. I just hope you go out there and mess with tuned rsx-p. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

About your comment STOCK GS-R hitting 14.9, I would like to invite you to Superhonda forum, ClubRSX forum, and honda vision forum. Tell them what you've just said.
They'll probably ban you right away. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

[Integraholic]

After market mods : AEM Cold air intake, front and rear strut bars, 1.5 inch drop performance springs.

Free mods: PS belt removed, muffler removed, FPR and dual stage vacuum hoses removed and plugged.

Fastest timeslip:
60' time : 2.275
330' : 6.190
1/8 : 9.421
1/4 : 14.587
1/4 mph : 92.67 mph

I post on Team Integra. &nbsp;That is where one of the members states that he ran a 14.9 with a stock GS-R. &nbsp;Myself I hit a best stock time of 15.1.

Oh, and when we finally get a good RSX-S driver out here in Indy, I'll tell you what he runs. &nbsp;I've beaten every one at the track so far. &nbsp;Best I've seen out of one is a 14.7 around here.

This is my last post in this thread because I'm sick and tired of you trying to act like you know what the hell you're talking about. &nbsp;If you want the slips, PM me your e mail address and I'll gladly send you the slips along with 10 or so pictures of my car just to prove what I've got done.

[xhdriver]

MODS! please lock this stupid fucking thread, im sick of seeing it...it wont go away.