View Full Version : 240sx overpriced?
kxl77
04-01-2008, 06:30 PM
I wanted to know if my logic is flawed, but it seems as if every 240sx I come across is grossly overpriced. I see s13's with 130k+, stock, and in FAIR condition looking for 4k. Is it just me or does depreciation not have its toll on the 240sx. If anything, it seems as if they've appreciated since my initial interest in purchasing one three years ago.
And the S14's that I'm predominately interested in are going for way above blue book, with extremely high miles 150k +.
Or do you guys consider the 240 to be a collectors car already?
johngriff
04-01-2008, 06:33 PM
Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift Premium.
Get used to it.
Check out prices for the AE86.
MunsonAuto
04-01-2008, 06:34 PM
Well, up here in new england (says your in NY), they're not very popular from what i've seen. It took me over 4 months just to find one in VT and it was junk. It was about a year when i got super lucky and found this one, it's definitely not from around here (no rust at all) but that's besides the point.
Seeing as there aren't many around the price can be higher, but if you go down south (try cities on craigslist that are as far away as you would want to go) they become cheaper.
Good luck
rowdogg03
04-01-2008, 06:35 PM
Its the drift tax from the hype of those homo ass movies like F&F 3 have brought... Fanboys will pay outrageous prices so people will charge outrageous prices..
Supply and demand.. when the demand of a resource goes up and that resource is limited (as everything on earth is) then subsequently the price will rise respectively.
Not only that but the S chassis are great cars!
Dominic Axelson
04-01-2008, 06:36 PM
well my opinion i think they are a little over priced but are still good cars but i would not call em collector cars just yet but very soon...
blasting_speed
04-01-2008, 06:49 PM
Well some douche bags are getting bored of their CiviCs so they're switching to the S chassis. That's why so many have been getting stolen lately. Now that drifting is getting popular so are these FRs. Its not like kids won't pay 4k for an S13 anyway.
That's my opinion at least. I just hate CiviC drivers so much.
d3m14n
04-01-2008, 06:49 PM
240sx are hard to find. ive had countless people come up to me at fast food places and gas stations asking if ill flat out trade or sell the car.
kinda sucks that in five years there wont be many 240sx that are intact and on the market. this is probably why prices are holding steady and perhaps increasing.
supply and demand sucks.
kxl77
04-01-2008, 06:50 PM
Sigh. Another example of why the media sucks. Then again, I wouldn't mind flying out 3000 miles to buy a 240 and drive it back to New York.
kouki_silvia
04-01-2008, 06:53 PM
Well some douche bags are getting bored of their CiviCs so they're switching to the S chassis. That's why so many have been getting stolen lately. Now that drifting is getting popular so are these FRs. Its not like kids won't pay 4k for an S13 anyway.
That's my opinion at least. I just hate CiviC drivers so much.
:werd: hate civic drivers:rl:
kxl77
04-01-2008, 06:55 PM
I don't have anything against civic drivers, or people that modify civics. It's just the ones that are ricers. You'll notice that ricers are now taking on motorcycles, and we call them squids.
alkemyst
04-01-2008, 06:57 PM
If you want to find a deal on a 240sx it's not going to come from some dude that bought one to flip. Find one that is owned by someone older and you can get some good deals.
When I started looking about 4 years ago Kouki's were in the $10k-15k range down here...it was ridiculous. Still some found some low mileage ones in mint condition for under $7k.
Just got to be willing to wait for the right deal.
A lot are being listed like many houses out there are. They throw it up at a very high price not really looking to sell, but if someone wants to pay that price they will...
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yota man
04-01-2008, 06:59 PM
The north west just fucks up cars so theres probably becoming fewer and fewer up there. Just pick one up down here. It will be worth the trip to save all the money plus you wont really have to worry about rust. Also i got mine for $2,000 and all it needed was a new battery.
CrimsonRockett
04-01-2008, 06:59 PM
I wanted to know if my logic is flawed, but it seems as if every 240sx I come across is grossly overpriced. I see s13's with 130k+, stock, and in FAIR condition looking for 4k. Is it just me or does depreciation not have its toll on the 240sx. If anything, it seems as if they've appreciated since my initial interest in purchasing one three years ago.
And the S14's that I'm predominately interested in are going for way above blue book, with extremely high miles 150k +.
Where have you been for the past year?
This is old news.
Check out the "super low mileage" red hatch going for $9,000...fully stock.
People are pretty f'ing stupid.
kxl77
04-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Where have you been for the past year?
This is old news.
Check out the "super low mileage" red hatch going for $9,000...fully stock.
People are pretty f'ing stupid.
Past three years.
www.bimmerforums.com (http://www.bimmerforums.com) :hs:
ALEXTHESUS*PECT
04-01-2008, 07:07 PM
Its the drift tax from the hype of those homo ass movies like F&F 3 have brought... Fanboys will pay outrageous prices so people will charge outrageous prices..
240sx weren't even prominent in the movie; that makes no sense. supply and demand yes, that movie no.
like john said hatchi's are waay more than our cars for even older cars, ours too will soon be the same.
kxl77
04-01-2008, 07:09 PM
OK- Please excuse my noobness, but why are 240's so cheap in South Carolina? Is there some type of surplus down there or..?
CrimsonRockett
04-01-2008, 07:16 PM
Rust buckets perhaps?
rajcat
04-01-2008, 07:20 PM
my experience was calling a place n VA to try to get one with 150k for about 6k, and I made the mistake of stating the actual worth of a 95 S14 as stated from my research (which is only about 4k for a mint one). and boy did he tear into me, stating, ''well if that's the case, buy it from them!''I learned my lesson, never buy from a dealor lol... but seriously it is supply and demand. every 240sx was built in Kyushu Japan, making them truly Imported.plus the fact that they were discontinued 10yrs back in th U.S
Akiros
04-01-2008, 07:25 PM
i found one in the local paper. 1990 black hatch. 16k miles on the rebuilt sohc, slippy auto tranny, 128k on the chassis, needs a little work, but it runs, 800 buckaroos. I now have 2 cars :( Anyone wanna buy a 2004 GTO? lol.
WangonwWarrior
04-01-2008, 07:28 PM
Right when F&F tokyo drift came out their was a guy selling a 1986 gts bone stock corolla hatch for $9,500- its because his ad said "great drift car"
2jzs14
04-01-2008, 07:29 PM
i got my 95 SE five speed with 130k on it for 4k and its super clean. the deals are out there you just have to find them
JesusFreakDrifter
04-01-2008, 07:29 PM
first zenki 240 - 750
2nd chuki 240 - 1300
3rd chuki 240 - 650
4th zenki s14 -1200
all of which were running when i bought em. now s14 shells going for like 2k. i just wanna s13 hatch for cheap
racepar1
04-01-2008, 07:32 PM
The average 240 is overpriced. Want a cheap one? Go to the ghetto/barrio here in cali! You can still find them for under $1000. The drifting craze that started in about 2001 has jacked up the prices on pretty much everything that is RWD.
eulalia
04-01-2008, 07:36 PM
well look at the brightside, atleast there not selling them for 48,000!!!
which i see a lot of supras going for
sorry just blows my mind....
but yeah mostly the drift crazeeee,
like john said, just look at ae86, thanks to initial d?
you never know 240 shells might be going for 12,000, like some muscle cars do, i dont know
agame001
04-01-2008, 07:50 PM
Where have you been for the past year?
This is old news.
Check out the "super low mileage" red hatch going for $9,000...fully stock.
People are pretty f'ing stupid.
yeh. it's pretty stupid how people would actually pay 9 grand for a stock "great drift car" hatch. so that's why there are sellers who post up their prices at the "drifter market value," knowing that someone will be willing to pay up.
just wait until a good deal comes your way.
justaKAiswear
04-01-2008, 07:52 PM
Really all FR Japanese sports cars are overpriced if you are comparing them to American or European equivalents.... Look at the Supra, RX7, 300zx, even Miata to an extent when you look at its initial cost. Its cuz guys like us want em so bad, we are willing to pay for the platform. For me, Im not even really interested in anything made in the last 10 years....
The S14 blows my mind as far as price, good deals on S13's can be found, but try finding a Kouki for KBB (between 4500-5500) aint happening..... I saw a guy on ImportAtlanta.com asking $8 grand for a 98 with 130K, that had been wrecked and the front clip wasnt even the same color!!! Asking TWICE the bluebook... just wow.
jspecusa
04-01-2008, 07:52 PM
when i use to drive my s14 back in the days,
other 240 owner would drive up and wave hi.
nowaday all i get is 240 owner reving on me like a civic would.
sad, oh if you think 240 are high check out RX7 and Supra pricing.
Future240
04-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Yea even out here in GA I see 240's goin for absurd prices. I have seen one, 4K with 178,000 miles. I was like:tweak:. Thanks to all the rices hoppin on the drift bandwagon, and all the grandma sue's who dont wanna give up their precsious zenki, 240's are hard to find and overpriced. Doesnt matter though cuz i am still savin up for one cuz a nicely done none ricer 240=:drool:
that and some good tang
ManoNegra
04-01-2008, 08:05 PM
The average 240 is overpriced. Want a cheap one? Go to the ghetto/barrio here in cali! You can still find them for under $1000. The drifting craze that started in about 2001 has jacked up the prices on pretty much everything that is RWD.
True, used to see them for sale every once in a while driving around. Haven't seen many lately though.
deadghost
04-01-2008, 08:34 PM
I remember seeing a really old guy driving a clean blue fastback, and I was about to chase the guy down, but I remained prudent for I had a daily driver. Then two months later it was the same situation but it was a old (I mean old) lady driving a red fast back (needed a paint job), but I didnt have the money. Now since I am in need of a car, building my budget, I am going to hunt down any old guy driving a hatch, give him some money and tell him/she to buy a cadilac. Its that or I wait for a deal
HemiCharger
04-01-2008, 08:43 PM
You know what little romeo or who ever that was playing in the F&F Tokyo drift said that an s15 was the Mona Lisa of the drift world and that is correct the s13-s15 is the mona lisa of the drift world and that is east and west coast they sell for 10-20 grand. That is crazy money. You will get a good deal in the mid west southern states plus no rust to mention of. No were near the money they bring elsewhere. My s14 zenki with 150,000 miles, leather, auto was 4500 and I thought that was expensive.
Jung918
04-01-2008, 08:55 PM
Save your money and buy a nicer car
KOUKI KAN KAN
04-01-2008, 08:57 PM
Dude your on crack ,out in the wild wild west i see 240's with average of like 100k on em go for like 2100-3000 ,hell i got mine with only 82k on it for 1200 back in 03 .
well im down hear in florida and there not that outragous. I saw one with 65,000 miles on orgionaly wanted 7 then droped down to 5,000 or 5,000 red mint and stock. I would get on auto trader and search down hear or somthin and check the prices, there are ones that have been highly moded that ive seen posted up for a crazy 25g's or more. But really its all about being paticent and waitin untill the time is right.
kouki_silvia
04-01-2008, 09:16 PM
If You're going to Neg Rep Me, atleast leave your name...so ill know who it was at a meet
240sxdrifterS14
04-01-2008, 09:40 PM
Florida 240s are still relatively cheap, I picked my base 96 up with 85k on it for 2800 a year and a half ago, and I have a friend that bought his 95 SE for 3800 with 92k
blownmotor
04-01-2008, 09:44 PM
It's seem like for the same price you could buy a RHD one nowadays Oh hell for 9800 dollar S14 I could buy a clean E36 M3 complete BS the way people are thinking. 240's are NOT gold, it's a car.And for people who are selling built 240's for like 20 grand I'd buy something eles for that much
kbb fails for 240's
if the person knows what they are truly selling you are already screwed plain and simple
notice all the ones people have picked up cheap are from older people
I paid 5.5k for my 95 / 120k / manual / base... it was modified a bit but fairly stock
shrimpscampi
04-01-2008, 10:14 PM
There are no real places to find cheap 240s anymore...you just gotta wait it out. It's Initial D's fault really.
chrisa
04-01-2008, 10:35 PM
i got my 89 for $600 and it is clean, i mean CLEAN! but then again i waited like 2 years since i crashed my 90 coupe' just wait and one will find you.
ESmorz
04-01-2008, 10:45 PM
I got mine which is clean as hell just needed to be a little de rice-ified for 2.2k like 4 months ago.
landins13
04-01-2008, 10:48 PM
about a year ago i got my 93 super hicas with 82k on it for 800$ i sold the ka and it paid for itself.
mcdonne32004
04-01-2008, 11:02 PM
Don't give up, there are deals out there. I just bought a 97 kouki (check pic) from a mom and pop dealership in baltimore...5k...122k on it... auto, but came loaded w/ everything except abs. found on cars.com, drove about 120miles but absolutely worth it!!!
genericforumname
04-01-2008, 11:18 PM
as far as supply goes I can personally say from experience that alot of former honda ricers are moving to 240's in my area because prices have dropped to the point where they can afford a primered, fart can equipped hatch with molded side skirts from one of those horrific "invader" body kits or some shit like that.<true story, I see it (and hear it) at my retard neighbors across the street from me. They also own a 72 mustang, yellow, with a sticker in the back that says "camaro's (or chevy, cant remember) worst nightmare", the even sadder part is that it doesn't run and they cant even afford trash cans:nono:
second example is an s14, YELLOW! with purple lightning type stripes down the side also with one of those shitty body kits except this one is the whole kit, best part of this story is the first time I saw it it was parked in front of a bank :ghey:
please, thank christ that 240's haven't gotten that bad in your area yet
nissanguy13
04-01-2008, 11:29 PM
I was going to read all the comments, then I realized this question has been asked like a million times.
1. pay the price and don't bitch
2. beat up the old guy and steal his
3. keep searching, you will find a deal.
Yes due to the craze of drifting and sr's the prices have gone up, and people (some) are stupid enough to pay some of the outrageous prices. That's why people keep doing it. The ones that don't know about the "craze" usually sell them for dirt cheap.
They are fun cars, a lot of people enjoy them but NO THEY ARE NOT A COLLECTOR CAR.:bash: There is way too many of them and they only mean something to the person that owns them. To prove my point: I would beat the shit out of someone if they sat on, scratched, messed up my 240 but a lot of people would look at me like I'm crazy when I get mad about that stuff.
Okay I'm done.:o
Ratchet
04-01-2008, 11:38 PM
i paid 8,995 for mine >:/
bone stock . 160,000 miles on it .
with a free Kenwood radio too :D
the only bone stock Zenki within a 37 mile radius .
at the time.....
landins13
04-01-2008, 11:43 PM
Don't give up, there are deals out there. I just bought a 97 kouki (check pic) from a mom and pop dealership in baltimore...5k...122k on it... auto, but came loaded w/ everything except abs. found on cars.com, drove about 120miles but absolutely worth it!!!
i saw baltimore and got excited i've been trying to find some zilvians to meet up with but there arent that many here. as far as the 240s go ive found quite a few around the baltimore area anywhere from 300 to 6000 but it all depends on year mileage and all that whatnot.
KiLLeR2001
04-01-2008, 11:43 PM
lol i was driving to work a few days ago and this old lady (probably mid 40s) was driving an s14 kouki red automatic, she looked at me and smiled and i said what the hell and i gave her the thumbs up! Then we parted ways in a fashionable manner. Was weird, but cool at the same time lol.
blasting_speed
04-01-2008, 11:56 PM
If You're going to Neg Rep Me, atleast leave your name...so ill know who it was at a meet
Word dude. I got neg repped for saying what i think. He's probably a douche bag CiviC driver. Won't put his name on a neg rep. ahahahaha I haven't neg repped any one ever. This is a public forum.
an_orange_s2k
04-02-2008, 12:19 AM
depends on where you are. most places (big cities) they are over priced.
the south is great for this, s14's for 2,500-3,000 all day, FC's for sub 1k, ae's for 90,000
jackjack
04-02-2008, 10:47 AM
Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift Premium.
Get used to it.
Check out prices for the AE86.
thats what it comes down too. everyday i see a "new" 240 driving around with temp plates. owners think they're hot shit...... with a bone stock, rusted car :jerkit:
Moncef
04-02-2008, 11:02 AM
The first reply says it all.
There's ONE 240SX (S13) at a dealer for sale in my town. It's an 89, single-cam, automatic, fart pipe, and whacked out paint job for 2.8K. Eff that!
Moncef
clark
04-02-2008, 11:03 AM
If You're going to Neg Rep Me, atleast leave your name...so ill know who it was at a meet
why don't you just fork over $10 and get a premie account? you can see who reps you....
but if you're in the market for an s-chassis you have to be patient grasshopper. i was about to buy a hatch with rusted deck lid and rusted front strut towers and the next day, found a coupe in NC for 2 weeks paycheck and no rust.
also feel this out. if you see a s-chassis you want, don't be skurred and go make them an offer even if there's no for sale sign on the vehicle, you never know. i always have turds who watch tokyo drift trying to offer me shit for my car.
str8sidewayz
04-02-2008, 11:12 AM
truthfully ive always loved 240sx's but i was one of those kids that had a half dozen turbo hondas. and people never looked twice at my cars that ive invested thousands into. not ricers. i had a few big hp hondas. but when the time came that i wanted to go rwd and i picked up my first 95 240sx. all i did was sr swap suspension and wheels and i got crowds wherever i went. it was funny. last summer i really realized it when i pulled into a local parking lot for a huge import meet. must have been 100 hondas,subarus and all kinda jdm cars. n i think half the show came around my car. becuse i was the only 240 there
alkemyst
04-02-2008, 11:19 AM
thats what it comes down too. everyday i see a "new" 240 driving around with temp plates. owners think they're hot shit...... with a bone stock, rusted car :jerkit:
well that said they are one level above the guy in a 2008 Si. :)
fattony
04-02-2008, 11:30 AM
if you dont like prices just wait till the new FnF movie comes out.
johngriff
04-02-2008, 11:43 AM
Eh, I don't know if its all true about the prices in total skyrocketing.
in 05 I sold my modified S13 for 9k. Chassis had maybe 180k, but rebuilt sr, new turbo, power fc, coils, wheels lsd etc etc.
Now I see allot of highly modified SR's for less or the same. I think there is a "base price" adjustment for all the entry level kids, but if you have the dime you can get a near complete drift car for 10-17k.
WHICH IN ALL HONESTY IS CHEAPER THAN YOU COULD BUILD IT, REMEMBER THAT.
agustin lopez
04-02-2008, 11:45 AM
didnt read the whole post but i think another cause is drifting, cars get smashed and what most guys do is switch their gear to a new shell. the smashed shell goes to the junkyard.
nissanguy13
04-02-2008, 12:37 PM
My buddy just found a 93 coupe last night in mint condition, low milage and loaded for $1,300 out the door. It was at a stealership. It had a few minor engine problems, but they are fixable and he was able to drive it off the lot. And that' in San Diego (SOCAL)
DRFTRB
04-02-2008, 12:52 PM
Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift Premium.
Get used to it.
Check out prices for the AE86.
Someone offered my friend $4,000 for his AE86. The body it in fair condition but it's rattle canned white.
jackjack
04-02-2008, 12:58 PM
^speaking of that......
local dealer had a black 95 s14. mint. 170xxx miles. they wanted 8k.
local guy had a white s14.5. bone stock other than kit/rims. sold for 10k.
crazy, crazy.
beeracing s14
04-02-2008, 05:34 PM
i got mine back in 2001, a 1997 kouki white with 42k old lady owned for 6k! that was the sweeeeetest moment that happened to my wallet.
i guess the intro of drifting, D1, Formula D, tokyo drift movies and drift PS2 games contribute to its high price.
leveloneae86
04-02-2008, 05:47 PM
i noticed here in the bay area that the 240s prices are dropping drastically. drifting is dying out here. i see a handful of s14s for $3500
to $4000 nowadays. automatics go for less. s13s are half of that. i figure not many of those kids who buy it can keep up with the maintanance of these cars or the sr20det craze got run over by the law.( as in they found out its not legal or got ref tickets)
i also see FDs for sale! ohg so many for 5K less than i saw them for sale a year ago. my assumption is that they are saving up for the r35? yes no i duno. i should be studying =P
Zilvia4eva
04-02-2008, 08:23 PM
Supply and demand depends on the area....
My last S14 was purchased for $2200 clean with no rust and 150K mileage
hell I picked up a clean 2jz powered tank(Sc300) for $2800 tax -n- transfer included.....5spd swap,2mm HG,and turbo kit coming soon....500whp on pump gas here I come!!!!:drool:
beavis360
04-02-2008, 09:44 PM
You gotta pay to play. If you want to be apart of the most balling group of drivers you gotta pony up the dough.
I'll sell you my 96 Auto discounted at $8k PM if interested.
kxl77
04-04-2008, 01:24 PM
You gotta pay to play. If you want to be apart of the most balling group of drivers you gotta pony up the dough.
I'll sell you my 96 Auto discounted at $8k PM if interested.
Is this a joke?
Om1kron
04-04-2008, 01:43 PM
Well some douche bags are getting bored of their CiviCs so they're switching to the S chassis. That's why so many have been getting stolen lately. Now that drifting is getting popular so are these FRs. Its not like kids won't pay 4k for an S13 anyway.
That's my opinion at least. I just hate CiviC drivers so much.
I honestly feel that your attitude stinks, granted I gave you no positive or negative feedback concerning your post. Honestly whats so wrong about civic drivers?
Please dont classify the honda community with "ricers" who jumped on the rice jock of the nissan crowd.
Since attaining my first nissan after putting it off for 10 years, most of the popular threads concern how the new trend is bosuku (I have yet to see one bosoku civic), stretched tires, color matched, or theme matching zip ties, half assed done engine swaps, unpainted aero, etc.
I have seen a GRANDIOSE amount of what you consider "riceboy civic" behavior being exhibited through the nissan crowd, tons of people "drifting" in the streets, strobe light's etc.
Every car group of enthusiasts have their own swag, deal with it. That's the kind of non progressive attitude the automotive culture doesn't need regardless of whatever elitist attitude you have because "you got your nissan first"
Finding an import in general that hasn't been SEVERELY raped by it's previous owner is godamned near impossible, and on top of the ridiculous "drift tax" that we have to pay to transgress into a different branch of the sport or lifestyle/culture or whatever you want to call it.
And on top of that to have people who are non encouraging about other people getting into the sport and hobby you love doesn't make it any better.
It's bad enough that when we try to search for information on these cars to fix minor things you have 10 dicks ready to jump into a thread saying "SEARCH" without double checking the shit they forward to you to see that sites that used to have FAQ's and shit up are all unregistered domains like the ss14 domain.
I come from the "honda" crowd and I wanted a rwd platform to work on since I only had experience with fwd and I want to try something new, and my budget really doesn't entail the 4WD market since those are all 30 thousand plus dollar expenditures. I love the body style and the culture that comes along with it and hope to build just as nice as a vehicle as my civic and give back to the community with how to's with "PICTURES" and lend a helping hand to other people fortunate enough to join our racing culture.
In closing, please don't be a fucking prick, in short is all i'm asking.
Thanks,
Wayne
jackjack
04-04-2008, 01:52 PM
^i agree.
point being, EVERY community has its douche bags. i know of several in the local 240 crowd. complete idiots that need to get over themselves.
joshchewuhh
04-04-2008, 05:04 PM
prices are going up for 17+ old s13's
its worse for corollas
sucks
alkemyst
04-04-2008, 06:34 PM
I honestly feel that your attitude stinks, granted I gave you no positive or negative feedback concerning your post. Honestly whats so wrong about civic drivers?
Please dont classify the honda community with "ricers" who jumped on the rice jock of the nissan crowd.
Since attaining my first nissan after putting it off for 10 years, most of the popular threads concern how the new trend is bosuku (I have yet to see one bosoku civic), stretched tires, color matched, or theme matching zip ties, half assed done engine swaps, unpainted aero, etc.
I have seen a GRANDIOSE amount of what you consider "riceboy civic" behavior being exhibited through the nissan crowd, tons of people "drifting" in the streets, strobe light's etc.
Every car group of enthusiasts have their own swag, deal with it. That's the kind of non progressive attitude the automotive culture doesn't need regardless of whatever elitist attitude you have because "you got your nissan first"
Finding an import in general that hasn't been SEVERELY raped by it's previous owner is godamned near impossible, and on top of the ridiculous "drift tax" that we have to pay to transgress into a different branch of the sport or lifestyle/culture or whatever you want to call it.
And on top of that to have people who are non encouraging about other people getting into the sport and hobby you love doesn't make it any better.
It's bad enough that when we try to search for information on these cars to fix minor things you have 10 dicks ready to jump into a thread saying "SEARCH" without double checking the shit they forward to you to see that sites that used to have FAQ's and shit up are all unregistered domains like the ss14 domain.
I come from the "honda" crowd and I wanted a rwd platform to work on since I only had experience with fwd and I want to try something new, and my budget really doesn't entail the 4WD market since those are all 30 thousand plus dollar expenditures. I love the body style and the culture that comes along with it and hope to build just as nice as a vehicle as my civic and give back to the community with how to's with "PICTURES" and lend a helping hand to other people fortunate enough to join our racing culture.
In closing, please don't be a fucking prick, in short is all i'm asking.
Thanks,
Wayne
Wow...don't know where that came from...guy never said ALL honda dudes were tools nor ALL nissan one's weren't.
Thanks for showing us.
Om1kron
04-04-2008, 06:41 PM
nevermind it's obvious a lot of people still want to be meat heads...
fliprayzin240sx
04-04-2008, 06:45 PM
This will be the ultimate reason why Im leaning more and more not to go back to an S-chassis. Keep an eye out for my car in 3 yrs, bringing everything back minus the chassis so I can fucking sell everything stateside.
Im going Z33...this S-chassis overpriced and ganked left/right crap is getting fucking ridiculous...
Ceepo
04-04-2008, 06:59 PM
I got my second s13 in janruary some old lady owned it, silver ka24e, sunroof, 5speed, mint condition, i got it for 2k but the body is flawless... and interiour...
number80
04-04-2008, 07:32 PM
A car is worth as much as a buyer is willing to pay for it. Drifting craze sky rocket the value of the 240sx. F&F did have a bit to do with just a bit even though the silvia wasn't the main car. It did however base the movie on drifting and the 240sx is the cheap and easy to work on and not to mention endless aftermarket support.
You guys think we have it bad, just look at the Supra's value since F&F1 came out.
ruudbwoy
04-04-2008, 07:35 PM
simple economics: supply and demand
nasadriver
04-04-2008, 07:44 PM
If you want to find a deal on a 240sx it's not going to come from some dude that bought one to flip. Find one that is owned by someone older and you can get some good deals.
When I started looking about 4 years ago Kouki's were in the $10k-15k range down here...it was ridiculous. Still some found some low mileage ones in mint condition for under $7k.
Just got to be willing to wait for the right deal.
A lot are being listed like many houses out there are. They throw it up at a very high price not really looking to sell, but if someone wants to pay that price they will...
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Yeah, same thing is los angeles, the s14 was very expensive a few years ago. I think s14's have dropped recently and s13's have gotten more expensive,not totally sure why. I bet a lot of people on this forum bought this car because of "the media". Hell, if it weren't for grand turismo, I never would have fell in love with the s13, I thought they were lame when they first came out, but I didn't know anything about it's potential. All I wanted growing up was an FC rx7.
kbb fails for 240's
if the person knows what they are truly selling you are already screwed plain and simple
notice all the ones people have picked up cheap are from older people
I paid 5.5k for my 95 / 120k / manual / base... it was modified a bit but fairly stock
this man speaks truth. i bought my 98 kouki 77k for 6,200. old woman, first owner. she has kbb printouts as her guide for pricing. i had to search craigslist, autotrader, and the forums on a daily basis, and be willing to travel 100+ miles to find it, but the car was worth it to me. the deals are there, you just have to be diligent in how you approach it
Future240
04-05-2008, 02:39 PM
An old man once told me, nothin is too exspenive as long as you think it is worth it. I wouldnt pay more than 3500 for a 12 year old car unless it looked like it just came off the showroom floor. But query to the entire thread, if you had to pay 8000 to get a car that you really really wanted in pretty good condition wouldnt you do it, even if everyone told you it was stupid?
blueshark123
04-05-2008, 04:08 PM
I have also noticed the increase of demand on these cars but by me I get lucky finding 240's I found one s13 93 for 550 and a very clean s14 auto for 1350 both times i wasnt lookin for another car. but when i am lookin for a car u can never find them.
Blurryeyes
04-05-2008, 05:04 PM
simple economics: supply and demand
I couldn´t agree more with you. Let me give you a run down of what happened south of the border:
the S13 was only sold officially on 93 and the S14 on 98. After F&F and it´s multiple installments the demand for S chassis cars was increased drastically but the one problem here is that the supply is not that big to keep up with it so you see POS S13`s being sold for no less than $5000 (yep, that´s dollars) and S14´s nearing the $10K. Maybe it doesn´t seem that different of what you are experiencing up there but take into account that replacement parts are hard to find here and let´s not talk about aftermarket so we have a bunch of beater cars that you are going to suffer to maintain being sold for a premium.
Interesting fact: the official number of S14´s sold here in Mexico is 500 of which only 10% are M/T.
a_ahmed
04-05-2008, 05:22 PM
excuse me but i want my car that ive invested in so much to be worth 10k+ I dont need some jackass retard wanting it to be worth 500$ as a 'bargain sports car'.
So hah!
We should be happy as 240 owners that our car's values goes up imho... look at hondas and acuras, no matter what kind of piece of shit they are, they always are 4000+
Dominic Axelson
04-05-2008, 05:22 PM
Someone offered my friend $4,000 for his AE86. The body it in fair condition but it's rattle canned white.
do it! i dislike ae86's with a passion. but thats just me...
Dominic Axelson
04-05-2008, 05:26 PM
excuse me but i want my car that ive invested in so much to be worth 10k+ I dont need some jackass retard wanting it to be worth 500$ as a 'bargain sports car'.
So hah!
We should be happy as 240 owners that our car's values goes up imho... look at hondas and acuras, no matter what kind of piece of shit they are, they always are 4000+
thats a good way to look at it in the short run but what happens when you wreck yours, and need a new one?
ESmorz
04-05-2008, 05:31 PM
Think of it as an expensive hooker.
You pay a lot because she is in high demand, sexy, and beauties of her kind are in short supply. Plus lets face it you know you're just going to beat the hell out of her anyways to get your jollies off.
Also... just like getting with a hooker, a 240 will not get you the ladies...
Unless you're like Richard Gere... no not the hamster deal. Getting a hooker and being all courteous with her and buying her useless shit and never getting full hooker satisfaction from her. haha
aoiken3
04-05-2008, 05:59 PM
Sigh. Another example of why the media sucks. Then again, I wouldn't mind flying out 3000 miles to buy a 240 and drive it back to New York.
i kno some1 who did that but they didnt fly 3000 miles. they flew 300. lol
haz-e
04-05-2008, 10:21 PM
Thing is we all want back all the money we invested in our buckets. I paid $2700 for a salvage title 89 Coupe just cause the Seafoam two tone paint.
Have another $3k in motors (built SOHC only), some suspesnion, and 4 wheel big brakes....can't sell it with a spare motor and a shit ton of goodies for $3900. MY asking price keeps dropping cause I need it gone.
A local guy was asking $27,000 for his RB26 91 S13. Made 750whp and won HIN two years in a row.
zavala
04-06-2008, 09:11 AM
out where i live in Tenn you can find older imports for really decent deals because all the redneck fuckers have no clue what they are and have no use for them if they did. i picked my 89 S13 that ran with minor front end damage for $300 and it was fully complete and unmolested with original window sticker and papers. i got a even better deal on my second car a 87 RX7 Turbo II. i found it in some guys front yard with 96,XXX miles on it and a burnt out ecu. it also has everything mint inside and out (faded paint) with the original window sticker and papers. best part is i got it for free!! just to get it out of the dudes yard, it needs some electric work and probily a engine rebuild but for free i'll take it.
300hp owen
04-06-2008, 09:40 AM
dont forget that asking price is not always the selling price!
but I dont think 240's are overpriced, theyre is not a lot in the market to compete with them for fun easy to maintain rwd fun besides bimmers (not cheap to maintain) and rx7s (not as reliable) and miatas (girly car lol) and mr2s (rare and even more overpriced).
khmer1
04-06-2008, 11:05 AM
yea just wait till the new fnf movie come out whatever car that is feature in it will be overprice later.. i cant find a ae86 for under 1500 or less
well the 240sx i seen all going around here mostly have engine swap so it like 4000 up but stock ones with engine problems and such goes for around 1500 and up and for some reason every car that has rwd that are for sell there is the phrase"makes great drift car" wtf why is that
but me i bought a 240sx shell manual trans with rare color paint(silver greenish) mud flaps and such also good body condition for like 200 and i bought this other 240sx auto all messed for like 600(have no ideal why...)
johnksoy
04-06-2008, 11:27 AM
serious if you cant find a s13 for less than 2,000 your just not looking hard enough. I bought mine for 2,500 but it was so damn clean (inside and out) I couldn't resist.
jackjack
04-06-2008, 01:44 PM
^like its been stated before, all depends on the area.
wangan_cruiser
04-06-2008, 02:12 PM
its true all you need is being patient and looking at the right area. only people who ask too much because they add shit on their car. tell them BRING IT BACK TO STOCK AND ILL BUY IT THE SAME PRICE YOU BOUGHT IT.
spooledyou33
04-06-2008, 02:17 PM
dam up here in ny i got two clean ass ones well my friend did not me lol a coupe and a hatch for 1500 both running cars.... you just have to look it will take time but you will find a sick one
wylin
04-06-2008, 06:39 PM
i wish it was priced higher so less kids get into the new drift/ emo/ alternative life thing that they think buying a 240sx entails.
I say 5k is fine for a s13, and 10-12k for a stock s14. That would be enough to keep the Fwd and ghetto people from buying 240's.
Maybe only then can the quality of the cars on the road increase. Right now the 240sx is the new civic...in socal...the archtype of poorly done, multi-colored, half-assed, and unsafe driving...to public, law enforcement, and enthusiasts.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2352788343_dc692abe10_o.jpg
silviaz
04-06-2008, 07:45 PM
it's a good thing. the more they'll cost, less fucking drift king wannabe will buy them.
I'm fucking pissed off.
Future240
04-06-2008, 07:54 PM
i wish it was priced higher so less kids get into the new drift/ emo/ alternative life thing that they think buying a 240sx entails.
I say 5k is fine for a s13, and 10-12k for a stock s14. That would be enough to keep the Fwd and ghetto people from buying 240's.
Maybe only then can the quality of the cars on the road increase. Right now the 240sx is the new civic...in socal...the archtype of poorly done, multi-colored, half-assed, and unsafe driving...to public, law enforcement, and enthusiasts.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2352788343_dc692abe10_o.jpg
yea hopefully that is after I get mine and build it up.
SexPanda
04-06-2008, 08:08 PM
serial, now dont be hating here...
but i am seriously NOT in love with my 240 right now. Needs ball joints, new control arms, new shocks, new springs, has electrical issues, the engines on its last leg, and a bad paint job.... I suppose thats what 190,000 miles will do. You really cant find a well taken care of 240 these days. The previous owner of mine, whom I know, was a complete idiotic whore (literally) who probably didnt change the oil the entire time she owned it.
If i were to sell my car, id prolly sell it for like a grand. But im a realist. I know as soon as i sold it i'd cry. Honestly, if you want a good clean s chassis, be prepaired to drive a few hours... or days, if your that hard core, to get one...
or go to canada, get a REAL s13 silvia, know someone who inspects cars and are real good friends with, and you'll have a good low mileage s13 for under 5 grand.
ALEXTHESUS*PECT
04-06-2008, 08:17 PM
i wish it was priced higher so less kids get into the new drift/ emo/ alternative life thing that they think buying a 240sx entails.
I say 5k is fine for a s13, and 10-12k for a stock s14. That would be enough to keep the Fwd and ghetto people from buying 240's.
Maybe only then can the quality of the cars on the road increase. Right now the 240sx is the new civic...in socal...the archtype of poorly done, multi-colored, half-assed, and unsafe driving...to public, law enforcement, and enthusiasts.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2352788343_dc692abe10_o.jpg
then trade in your g35 sedan, and make a fully race/drift prep 350z and you won't have that problem anymore. or do the same with a wrx or evo, and be even more unique!
once you buy a 240sx, then take your time, spend your money wisely and you will get a good return on it when you are done with it. unless you crash it of coarse.
wylin
04-06-2008, 08:55 PM
350's are not really my thing, tho they've gotten better. For track thats why i purchased an s2000, as its a more fun daily drivable and once in a while track car imho.
i had a 240sx before, long time ago. Which i purchased new in febuary 1996. It was sold in september 2007 for 11k to a friend.
One if bored can look at it, as its on the phase2 website... Last time i checked it was the 1st s14 chassis w/ s14 SR20det and fully functional Air conditioning back in 2002.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/willins14pro.html
Mi Beardo es Loco
04-06-2008, 08:58 PM
I bought mine in MoVal for 500 about 5 years ago. Everyone was clowning me because they said 240s were girls cars. Jokes on them now, they want one too.
whiteytighties
04-06-2008, 09:01 PM
350's are not really my thing, tho they've gotten better. For track thats why i purchased an s2000, as its a more fun daily drivable and once in a while track car imho.
i had a 240sx before, long time ago. Which i purchased new in febuary 1996. It was sold in september 2007 for 11k to a friend.
One if bored can look at it, as its on the phase2 website... Last time i checked it was the 1st s14 chassis w/ s14 SR20det and fully functional Air conditioning back in 2002.
http://phase2motorsports.stores.yahoo.net/willins14pro.html
Yep I remember yours...one of the first s14s I liked back in 2001-2002 when I first got my s13 coupe. But I also do wish prices were steep just so everyone I know doesn't want one anymore. Everywhere I go...someone is making an offer for my current stock s13.
Original poster: It's called supply and demand. The more people wants them...the higher the prices like corollas. And of course, drift tax.
JVDSKYRINE
04-06-2008, 09:02 PM
I bought mine in MoVal for 500 about 5 years ago. Everyone was clowning me because they said 240s were girls cars. Jokes on them now, they want one too.
actually i got my 240 winter beater from a lady that was the only owner....she had saved all the advertisements and brochures for it and they were actually sold with women in mind for their target market :jerkit: haha funny shit i should hunt those down and scan them to show you guys its kinda funny
Mi Beardo es Loco
04-06-2008, 09:06 PM
actually i got my 240 winter beater from a lady that was the only owner....she had saved all the advertisements and brochures for it and they were actually sold with women in mind for their target market :jerkit: haha funny shit i should hunt those down and scan them to show you guys its kinda funny
I think that's part of the reason why USNissan decided to not put in the sr. But I remember seeing pictures of the s15 on aol (lol at dial up) and having a completely different view of 240s. I always intended to get a silvia front end but back then it was so expensive. But how times have changed!
wylin
04-06-2008, 09:06 PM
Yep I remember yours...one of the first s14s I liked back in 2001-2002 when I first got my s13 coupe. But I also do wish prices were steep just so everyone I know doesn't want one anymore. Everywhere I go...someone is making an offer for my current stock s13.
thanks, yeh its why i sold mine, too much negative attention and it failed the GF test...
there's no bling in drive a 12 year old car, is what she said...and its quite true!
wangan_cruiser
04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
I bought mine in MoVal for 500 about 5 years ago. Everyone was clowning me because they said 240s were girls cars. Jokes on them now, they want one too.
they want one because they want to be cool like you. POS people tries to buy 240sx then crash it after a month of driving thinking they can do drift with 1 month of practicing. basically these type of idiots causes the low supply of 240sx in the community. its funny how this fuckers think they can slip and slide and drive perfectly with only driving a rwd for less than a month.
shit with 241XXX original miles on my car. i dont mind replacing all bushings that needs to be replaced because at least i know im the person who put up those miles.
it takes time to learn real drifting and polish your skills to the track. not in the streets
dops13
04-14-2008, 08:31 PM
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/car/641498689.html
7K for an almost stock 93 240sx Coupe!!!!! This is an awesome deal.
BigVinnie
04-14-2008, 08:35 PM
Woot woot!!! I can sell my car for double for what I payed for it, since the fast and furious!!!
fliprayzin240sx
04-14-2008, 09:30 PM
If my silvia isnt such a fucking rust-bucket, id probably try to ship it stateside in 3 yrs. Too bad it is a fucking rust bucket...no way its worth the $11k to ship it back stateside...
90hatchie
04-14-2008, 10:01 PM
Dude your on crack ,out in the wild wild west i see 240's with average of like 100k on em go for like 2100-3000 ,hell i got mine with only 82k on it for 1200 back in 03 .
how does this work out when u have a thread saying you want a 240 as a first car but ur parents wont let you?
something smells like bullshit
MN240sx
04-14-2008, 10:22 PM
I guess its just about luck. I got mine (95' 240sx SE Manual) bone stock 120K with great body condition and clean title for $2400. then again that was like 5 years ago...
fliprayzin240sx
04-14-2008, 11:07 PM
^^^Exactly, 2-3 yrs ago. Check around lately? Finding a stock unmolested S14 now to me is like finding a rich virgin who would be able to support my car and crack habit...
cserrano86
04-14-2008, 11:13 PM
I bought my 97 Kouki, 90k miles on it, from the 2nd owner for $9k. Do I feel ripped off? Hell no! If you really want something, do it. Nevermind the bullshit people say or what a book says your car is worth, do it.
I work in auto finance, I know what cars are worth and I know what a good deal looks like. Granted I didn't get an amazing deal like some of the lucky few but I got the car I wanted. I don't regret paying the price.
What's done is done. I love my car and that's that. If you want one, make sure it's the one. If you have one...you know what I'm talking about.
theronin
04-15-2008, 12:15 AM
I bought my 97 Kouki, 90k miles on it, from the 2nd owner for $9k. Do I feel ripped off? Hell no! If you really want something, do it. Nevermind the bullshit people say or what a book says your car is worth, do it.
I work in auto finance, I know what cars are worth and I know what a good deal looks like. Granted I didn't get an amazing deal like some of the lucky few but I got the car I wanted. I don't regret paying the price.
What's done is done. I love my car and that's that. If you want one, make sure it's the one. If you have one...you know what I'm talking about.
thats a lil higher than kbb, she looks like a good ride. got more pix?
Oo_Skyline_oO
04-15-2008, 01:32 AM
240sx weren't even prominent in the movie; that makes no sense. supply and demand yes, that movie no.
like john said hatchi's are waay more than our cars for even older cars, ours too will soon be the same.
actually guy, I think what he means is that drifting is prominent in F&F 3, and the majority of the people with FF platform who want to start drifting and want to buy FR cars choose 240's, so yes, I'd say movies like that did effect the 240sx market.
tecster
04-15-2008, 10:36 AM
Man you guys had it rough... I bought my S13 for $300 bucks, did the motor swap myself for about $1,500... Guess I walked away lucky in the NE Area?
thanks, yeh its why i sold mine, too much negative attention and it failed the GF test...
there's no bling in drive a 12 year old car, is what she said...and its quite true!
bitches are dumb, that's what you get for listening to your girlfriend, to me a 12 year old car that looks like it's in new condition is much more pleasing than a new car.
^^^Exactly, 2-3 yrs ago. Check around lately? Finding a stock unmolested S14 now to me is like finding a rich virgin who would be able to support my car and crack habit...
the trick is, finding someone who doesn't know what they have
example: old ladies, old man, and old people in general are mentioned for nearly every good deal someone has got.
driftyour40
04-15-2008, 11:23 AM
when i use to drive my s14 back in the days,
other 240 owner would drive up and wave hi.
nowaday all i get is 240 owner reving on me like a civic would.
sad, oh if you think 240 are high check out RX7 and Supra pricing.
I miss saying "what up" to fellow 240 owners.
The prices will go down later but for now just enjoy the aftermarket attention, and try not to get yo shit stolen.
pEcHeP
04-15-2008, 11:39 AM
Imo $1500-2k is the going rate for a running car with almost 0 mods (maybe the occasional new shift nob or air freshener). Or get a shell for cheap and build it ground-up, but trips to the junkyard and zilvia will seem endless. The price is due to hype, and what people can actually do with the car. If you want a cheap project, get a VW superbeetle, drop a litre bike motor into a geo metro, or get a civic :). Otherwise a 240 is a good choice.
DRFTRB
04-15-2008, 08:37 PM
I just paid $400 for a clean 89 240 with a clean title :)
s14_legend
04-16-2008, 09:08 AM
hell of a good deal
I just paid $400 for a clean 89 240 with a clean title :)
speedstar01
04-16-2008, 09:14 AM
thats just that way it is man, we live in NY where most 240s rot out, so the one left will cost well over blue book :(
keep searching and good luck
EckSyleSX
04-16-2008, 09:18 AM
i got lucky i got a running single cam with 154k, 5spd tranny, power steering, windows and lock, working AC, theres only 2 dents on the whole car and only bad thing about the car is the paint and the clutch and all that for $800
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