Clutch Damper?

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Car: s13
Engine: s14 Sr20det


Hello I'm looking for some information on what a clutch damper looks like and what exactly it does. I've tried
searching, but haven't found the information I was looking for. I checked the FSM for it too; it mentions it, but I am still clueless.


Does this clutch damper usually come with SR swap engines because I don't think I have one.


In the threads that I have seen already, people are saying to get rid of it for some reason.


help anyone? Thanks

[sac]

^^doing a auto-manual conversion?

[ms!3]

its on the pass running frame rail. bypass it. what a female dog to bleed.

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Definitely bypass it. Positive clutch feel

[Propaganda]

Search?

It is a box near the transmission. Follow your clutch line down and you'll see it. It dampens the clutch? Remove it?

http://garage.projectraine.com/content_guides/240_clutchdamper/clutchdamper.html

[sac]

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=119160&highlight=clutch+dampner
all you need to do is search kiddo!!
took me 5 seconds... where is the green luv?

[jrbump]

Yep, deep six that thing right away.

[Sr20det>Ka24de]

If you are doing an auto conversion don't worry about it if you do have a manual 240, the dampner is a block that the clutch line runs to then is makes a loop under the car and back to the slave cylinder/ very unecessary and will take you forever to bleed this system Just follow the clutch line down the firewall to the block then take the hardline out of the block (the line from the master) bend it slowly and easy so you don't kink it 180deg. back and connect it to the end of the slave cylinders flexible line, if you do a good job bending the line it will look like it was meant to be, then remove the block from the floor and the loop of clutch line, the clutch will now bleed out in a few minutes and feel soo much better than before- good luck - if you are still unsure I can pm you a pic of mine:bigok:

[2plus4plus0eq6]

Its not an auto-manual conversion. My car is a 5 speed. I just saw some people mention it and was curious to know what the hell it was.

I tried searching but couldn't get a clear picture of it in my head. I hate it when people say search search search when Propaganda was the first one who gave me exactly what I wanted even if it was from a completely different website (which makes it impossible to find).

+1 to everyone who helped ;)

[g6civcx]

The clutch damper is on the chassis of KA and SR cars. It bolts to the frame rail near the transmission.

Here's the best thing to do.

Go to your clutch master cylinder. Unbolt the hardline. Follow the hardline all the way to the frame rail. There will be a small box with lines going in and out. The box is your clutch damper.

Unbolt the box and any lines going out of the box. Follow the line all the way to the slave cylinder.

Take all that crap and put it up for sale.

Go buy Taka braided clutch line and bolt the new line straight from the clutch master cylinder into the slave cylinder. Bleed and be done.


If you do not buy a new line, you can take the hardline going into the clutch damper and bend it by hand or with a pipe bender, and bolt that straight to the slave cylinder.


Otherwise, you will not be able to bleed the clutch by hand because the damper tends to trap air.

The purpose of the damper is to prevent feedback on the clutch pedal when the clutch is slipping. Most people really don't notice anything so it's just something that's stupid and serves no purpose.


If you insist on leaving the clutch damper, then take the car to a mechanic and use a power bleeder.

If you don't know how a hydro clutch works, then you're in trouble.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

ya.. I am really considering changing everything to braided lines, but I don't want a stiff clutch feel.

How do I go about this. Can this be done with how I bleed my system?

[g6civcx]

ya.. I am really considering changing everything to braided lines, but I don't want a stiff clutch feel.

If anything, removing the damper helps your clutch feel because you're not trapping air in the damper box. Plus you have less line to push fluids through so the clutch will feel more direct.



How do I go about this. Can this be done with how I bleed my system?

I don't understand the question. What is "this", and how does relate to the way you're bleeding the system? How are you bleeding the system?

Can you rephrase?

[2plus4plus0eq6]

sorry what I meant was..

whether I remove my clutch damper or not, can the feel of the clutch be adjusted? If so, how?

awesome.. thanks for the negative rep guys

[g6civcx]

whether I remove my clutch damper or not, can the feel of the clutch be adjusted? If so, how?

The damper has nothing with the clutch feel other than to prevent minor feedback in the clutch pedal when the clutch is slipping. The damper serves no other purpose.

There are a lot of bad things with the damper, mostly with trapping air and making the clutch not disengaging fully = grind.


The clutch pedal return spring, the size of the clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder, as well as the pressure plate determines the pedal effort.

None of these are really adjustable unless you swap them out completely for different components.

[2plus4plus0eq6]

great. makes more sense to me now. thanks for the help

[KiLLeR2001]

hmm I never really paid much attention to this but it turns out that I have my clutch damper still installed doh!

looks like I'll be uninstalling this very soon

[g6civcx]

hmm I never really paid much attention to this but it turns out that I have my clutch damper still installed doh!

looks like I'll be uninstalling this very soon

It's fine if you don't notice any problem, but if you ever need to bleed the clutch line it becomes a problem.

[racepar1]

Wothout the damper you will notice a slight amount more vibration through the pedal and it seems to be just a bit stiffer to me. It is a pretty useless part all things considered. Just remove it and bend the line to attach straight to the hose. Be careful bending it though, don't pinch it. I would reccomend that you use a handheld tubing bender just to be safe.

[KiLLeR2001]

It's fine if you don't notice any problem, but if you ever need to bleed the clutch line it becomes a problem.

I've never had a problem with it and I've bled my clutch a handful of times... I'll probably just leave it alone for now, I'll wait for it to act up ;)

[HS13KLS]

hmm sounds real handy...i will have to do that this weekend then :)