What Brake Fluid For EVO Brakes Swap??!

[Ali 556]

Hi,

I'm In The process Of Swaping EVO IX Brembos Into My S14....I've made the front adapter plate and i'm taking measurement For The Rear Cliper Adapter plate....

And I'll Swap My Stock BMC + Booster With a Z32 TT One's (BMC+Booster)....

And The Lines Are Endless SS Lines....And The Pads Are Endless Ceramic Pads,,,,,

Any Way My Qustion Is

What Brake Fluid Should I Use...The Usual DOT 3 (Cheap Way)...Or My Other Choice Is Endless RF-650 (expensive way)...that i can get localey (a Shop Just Imported some boxe's from Endless...
http://z-store.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=8688&ParentCat=38

Also Does My Brake Hard Line's Can Hold The DOT 5.1 Fluid...And hold..Or they will blow under the pressure .....?

The Car Is My DD (For Now)..So It Will Not See Any Track Duty...yet..

**NOTE**
For The Z32 BMC+Booster...b/c i'll get them cheap and the Z32 Booster Is SMALLER then my Auto S14 Booster...so please guys don't give me hard time :squint:

Thanks And Kind Regards, :D

Ali

[silvia_s14]

pm speedelement they could tell you

[devnull]

If you're just going to DD it, go cheap and use DOT 3 fluid. If you do a track day before you decide to swap over to high-performance fluid, just rebleed the system with fresh brake fluid.

[vutony]

your going all out on brakes
now cheap out on fluid
motul works good

-s14 auto booster have dual diaghram which is the same as the z32 booster
wat was ur point of doing the swap

[Ragnarok043]

ATE Super Blue or Motul FTW

[alex7]

ATE Super Blue or Motul FTW

x2, I used both in my Evo, the Super Blue worked well for a longer duration of DD.

[S14DB]

I would use at least 4 if not 5.1, Stay away from 5.

[IRN]

they got 4 maybe 5 at your local auto parts store plus either way you go, you have the bleeders in the front of the caliper. cake.

[cdlong]

not 5. you have to use 5.1

[Ali 556]

guys,

Thanks for the replay's..but keep one thing in mind.,,,i'm NOT In The USA...i'm far far away from it...so i don't have option's like you guys Have....

My option's are

1- Cheap DOT 3 Fluide,
2- Expensive(SP?) DOT 5.1 Fluide,

Also I've Talked To Some EVO Guys And They Are Usuing ENDLESS RF-650 On there car's And two Of them DD there EVO's...

They told me to go with the Endless....Also Does Any one know If My Brake Hard Line's Will Handel the DOT 5.1....?

Thanks,

Ali

I would use at least 4 if not 5.1, Stay away from 5.

why...?

not 5. you have to use 5.1

Why...x2 ?



-s14 auto booster have dual diaghram which is the same as the z32 booster
wat was ur point of doing the swap

B/C The Z32 Booster Is SMALLER In Diameter then My Auto Booster.

Ali

[orion::S14]

Cheap, good, and track proven = Valvoline Synthetic Dot 3 / Dot 4

Works great for me...20% street, 80% track...Z32 calipers on all 4 with Hawk HP+ pads.

- Brian

[orion::S14]

This stuff:

http://ianhoene.com/brakebleed/assets/step1_5.jpg

[JohnS14]

i use bg brake flush dot 4, works great.

[Def]

Just use the Valvoline stuff orion posted a pic of.


I like how it's cheap DOT3 fluid or some likely outsourced Endless fluid as the only options.



...and why the Endless pads - they never seemed special in the least to me, and are retarded expensive?

[Neejay]

Can you order online somewhere to give you better options?

Where do you live?

[Big Bronze Rim]

+1 for the Valvoline Synthetic fluid. Its cheap and its dry BP is higher and its wet BP is only slightly lower than Ate super blue. I don't remember exact values though. For what it costs, it's actually quite good.
The short answer on why you don't want to use DOT 5 is that it is silcone based and it generaly incompatible with DOT 3/4 systems.

[jspaeth]

Yeah, just interested in where you live...just ask someone to mail it to you from the States, and PayPal them money for it.

DOT 4 word

[sean350z]

+1,000,000 to the Valvoline Syn stuff...

[blueshark123]

i love my motul u can easily notice the diffrence

[Neejay]

i love my motul u can easily notice the diffrence
Notice a difference vs. what?

[jspaeth]

Notice a difference vs. what?

It doesn't matter, you can just notice the difference, god.....:keke:

[blitzkrgCT9A]

Motul RBF600 works great. :)

My EVO IX BROWNBOs were great for street.. but for heavy track use.. well you get an idea.. lol This is after a few Redline Time Attack events last yr..
http://www.speedelement.com/images/gallery2/main.php/d/359-8/_mg_7572.jpg

[kandyflip445]

Ate Super Blue or Motul. Both are great.

[S14DB]

guys,

Thanks for the replay's..but keep one thing in mind.,,,i'm NOT In The USA...i'm far far away from it...so i don't have option's like you guys Have....

My option's are

1- Cheap DOT 3 Fluide,
2- Expensive(SP?) DOT 5.1 Fluide,

Also I've Talked To Some EVO Guys And They Are Usuing ENDLESS RF-650 On there car's And two Of them DD there EVO's...

They told me to go with the Endless....Also Does Any one know If My Brake Hard Line's Will Handel the DOT 5.1....?

Thanks,

Ali



why...?



Why...x2 ?



B/C The Z32 Booster Is SMALLER In Diameter then My Auto Booster.

Ali
DOT 5 is Silicone. Won't work with Glycol based fluids(DOT 3,4,5.1). DOT4 Has a higher boiling point then DOT3 and is more ideal for performance applications.

DOT5.1 Was made to perform at Silicone levels without having to purge your lines and have the squishy feeling. They are now performing better than DOT 5 with a lot less water absorption then DOT3/4. Compatible with DOT3/4 but 2-3x the price.



Cheap, good, and track proven = Valvoline Synthetic Dot 3 / Dot 4

Works great for me...20% street, 80% track...Z32 calipers on all 4 with Hawk HP+ pads.

- BrianThis stuff:

http://ianhoene.com/brakebleed/assets/step1_5.jpg

Yeah I get that stuff. Cheap and never had a boiling or burning problem with it.

[240trainee]

I have used ATE for a couple years, and love it.

Motul is also awesome.

That Ford heavy duty shit is suppossed to be awesome on the cheap too.

[Ali 556]

...and why the Endless pads - they never seemed special in the least to me, and are retarded expensive?

they came with the cliper's...so i'll run them...

Ali

Yeah, just interested in where you live...just ask someone to mail it to you from the States, and PayPal them money for it.

DOT 4 word

Shipping Will Fu%k me...my friend paid ~300$ For 4x motul's..for his car.

Ali

Motul RBF600 works great. :)

My EVO IX BROWNBOs were great for street.. but for heavy track use.. well you get an idea.. lol This is after a few Redline Time Attack events last yr..
http://www.speedelement.com/images/gallery2/main.php/d/359-8/_mg_7572.jpg

yes they are like my cliper's...but min are a lil bit redish...

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/brb-/3-2.jpg?t=1205231548

they wil do ok..with my on the stock KA(I/H)...then we will see...:)
Ali

[projectRDM]

Cheap, good, and track proven = Valvoline Synthetic Dot 3 / Dot 4

Works great for me...20% street, 80% track...Z32 calipers on all 4 with Hawk HP+ pads.

- Brian

Bingo. I've run nothing but that for nearly nine years in my own cars as well friends/customers, never had a problem.

[cdlong]

Also Does Any one know If My Brake Hard Line's Will Handel the DOT 5.1....?

as stated, DOT 5 is different, don't use it. other than that, brake lines vs. fluid rating make no difference. (the 3,4,5.1 rating only relates to boiling point). your brake lines will be fine.

B/C The Z32 Booster Is SMALLER In Diameter then My Auto Booster.

Ali

no it's not. from the respective factory service manuals...

S14 Manual
D = 9.06"

S14 Auto/ABS
D1 = 8.07
D2 = 7.09

Z32
D1 = 9.06
D2 = 8.07