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hellaflush
03-10-2008, 06:36 PM
ugh mental blank... nutso vskfs for sale and fronts are a b disk

O disk is no clearance
R disk is max clearance

B disk is...? i cant find the work disk/face diagram either!

A Spec Products
03-10-2008, 06:48 PM
ugh mental blank... nutso vskfs for sale and fronts are a b disk

O disk is no clearance
R disk is max clearance

B disk is...? i cant find the work disk/face diagram either!

http://www.work-wheels.co.jp/products/wheel_detail.php?id=ITEM&Brand_id=6&Item_id=39

If you click the PDF logo you can view the sizing chart

R disk is for max brake clearance
A disk is standard face
O disk is for maximum lip

Goes from increasing to decreasing brake clearance (R, A, O)

There is no B disk for KF

hellaflush
03-10-2008, 06:49 PM
yeah thats what i thought... it must be A disk... which are most likely going to foul on r33 calipers in 18x9 +13

A Spec Products
03-10-2008, 06:52 PM
yeah thats what i thought... it must be A disk... which are most likely going to foul on r33 calipers in 18x9 +13

Yes, if its an 18x9+13, then its A Disk

That's why typically I recommend customers to go with R disk just to be safe

But maybe...you could clear (caliper) with a 3-5mm spacer

upSLIDEdown
03-10-2008, 06:53 PM
yeah thats what i thought... it must be A disk... which are most likely going to foul on r33 calipers in 18x9 +13

Might need a 5mm spacer or so, which wouldn't be horrible anyway. I run an 18x9 +5 effective up front on an S13 with rolled/slightly pulled fenders. Ended up not needing the pull with 225/35s, but I needed it with the 225/40s I had before.

Damn, Logan-san beat me to it... LOL

hellaflush
03-10-2008, 06:58 PM
yeah im running 9.5 +12 atm... so no worries about that - just hesitant on spacers...

i think i see where the seller got "B" disk from - on the list it has under the 82mm lip section a letter "B" next to 18x9 +13 in A disk

Jlee
03-10-2008, 07:07 PM
what about L? what's that?

My rims are O disk up front and L in back and I've got z32 brakes all around.

Jon

A Spec Products
03-10-2008, 07:08 PM
yeah im running 9.5 +12 atm... so no worries about that - just hesitant on spacers...

i think i see where the seller got "B" disk from - on the list it has under the 82mm lip section a letter "B" next to 18x9 +13 in A disk

B refers to the outer barrel type

You can disregard that letter

what about L? what's that?

Jon

L disk is just another form of big brake face

yokotas13
03-10-2008, 07:10 PM
fyi
work standard face, weds standard face (when avalaible) super star wheel standard face
all wil clear GTR32 non brembo on s13

but its close, and odd spoke designs may hit

hellaflush
03-10-2008, 07:14 PM
so i should be fine on s14 - awsometown!

fyi for anyone interested - these are what im getting for backup thrash wheels (im too scared to damage my te37s)

Work VSKF Silver
18x9 +13 A disk
18x11 +20 O disk
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/hellaflush0711/VSKF.jpg

will sit nicely on standard s14 guards

yokotas13
03-10-2008, 07:15 PM
on VSKF you should be fine for sure
if not 3mm spacer at most

A Spec Products
03-10-2008, 07:16 PM
fyi
work standard face, weds standard face (when avalaible) super star wheel standard face
all wil clear GTR32 non brembo on s13

but its close, and odd spoke designs may hit

Yep, that's why I say maybe

Better to be safe than sorry....

If you're wheel is sunk 5mm, oh well no biggie
If too flush 5mm, oh well no biggie

....but if it goes THUNGGGG when putting over the caliper...you outta luck :(

Actually SSR tells me that standard face won't clear Z33 Brembo, or Z32 caliper for that matter (that's what they say, but I don't believe....but dont' want to take risk either)....but I've always only ordered Hyper Disk for SSR (HP) so I have yet to see the clearance of SSR standard face

You could always shave caliper too, depending on how bad/where the spoke is touching the caliper

hellaflush
03-10-2008, 07:30 PM
awsome town - cheers heaps for the help guys :)

soon to be guttering yet another set of vskfs (my 4th set of vskfs in 3 years)

yokotas13
03-10-2008, 08:21 PM
Yep, that's why I say maybe

Better to be safe than sorry....

If you're wheel is sunk 5mm, oh well no biggie
If too flush 5mm, oh well no biggie

....but if it goes THUNGGGG when putting over the caliper...you outta luck :(

Actually SSR tells me that standard face won't clear Z33 Brembo, or Z32 caliper for that matter (that's what they say, but I don't believe....but dont' want to take risk either)....but I've always only ordered Hyper Disk for SSR (HP) so I have yet to see the clearance of SSR standard face

You could always shave caliper too, depending on how bad/where the spoke is touching the caliper
yeha iuve had that problem before
deff need hte HP disk for ssr...gay

AWDtoyota
03-10-2008, 08:59 PM
What are the numbers listed at the top of the columns where the offsets are listed?

For example the 20in sizes. Above each column of available offset, it lists...25, 38,50, 63, 75, 87....

hellaflush
03-10-2008, 09:07 PM
the amount of dish/lip they will have (edge of barrel to face)

FYI just put a downpayment on the vskfs - im back in ballertown

AWDtoyota
03-10-2008, 09:21 PM
Ok, and where do the different discs fall in?

Is it the back side of that face that gives clearance for brakes, or is the entire face designed different?

Because O Disk is for max lip, but your getting the same size lip as the other discs.

I don't know if i'm explaining my question right, lmk if you need me to clarify...

hellaflush
03-10-2008, 10:02 PM
face design is different

with vskfs both angle spoke and thickness of the centre piece will give you more or less clearance dependant on the disk type

no i see where you are coming from

basically to get x amount of lip in an O disk wheel and to then get the same amount of lip in say a... R disk (highest caliper clearance - sacrifices the most lip for same offset) you would need to run a much lower offset or size

ie.

to get 145mm of lip in an A disk... the first size is 18x10.5 -19
to get 145mm of lip in an R disk... the first size is 18x10.5 -36
to get 145mm of lip in an O disk... the first size is 18x10.5 -12

so as you can see - the more caliper clearance you gain - the lower offset you must go to obtain the same dish

srpowereds14
03-11-2008, 02:36 AM
Im running the same size and offset up front with z32, your gonna need at least a 5mm spacer... A piece of paper barely clears LOL

hellaflush
03-11-2008, 03:17 AM
same disk type too?

ayuaddict
03-11-2008, 03:47 AM
if worst comes to worst, at least you have plenty of room to work with, especially on S14. (fender clearance wise).

and you can always shave the NISSAN off the calipers too.

hellaflush
03-11-2008, 06:35 AM
mmm im not scared

hmm just chcked
95mm front lip
120mm rear lip

nawt too shabby :P

AWDtoyota
03-11-2008, 12:40 PM
face design is different

with vskfs both angle spoke and thickness of the centre piece will give you more or less clearance dependant on the disk type

no i see where you are coming from

basically to get x amount of lip in an O disk wheel and to then get the same amount of lip in say a... R disk (highest caliper clearance - sacrifices the most lip for same offset) you would need to run a much lower offset or size

ie.

to get 145mm of lip in an A disk... the first size is 18x10.5 -19
to get 145mm of lip in an R disk... the first size is 18x10.5 -36
to get 145mm of lip in an O disk... the first size is 18x10.5 -12

so as you can see - the more caliper clearance you gain - the lower offset you must go to obtain the same dish


Thank you, now i understand it. And I'm guessing the same applies for all wheels?

I love those vs-kf's!!! I can't wait till I get me a set....burning black=sex!!!!

hellaflush
03-11-2008, 04:25 PM
i wont be keeping the disks silver... contemplating a khahki green or fluro pink :D

pretty much for most 2/3piece wheels they will have a similar setup... ie. with SSR they use HI/LO disks (HI being high caliper clearance - LO being LOW caliper clearance but max lip)

srpowereds14
03-12-2008, 02:52 AM
same disk type too?

Yes same disk type:bigok:

ant_s13
03-12-2008, 04:42 AM
my question is relevant here, and im a fellow aussie so im sure he wont mind! haha

i also have some A disk works on the way, VS-XX (so very flat faced..)

i still have stock single pot s13 brakes which they will clear, but wanted to upgrade. ive been told by Work they wont clear s14/15 calipers, are there any other brakes i could get that would clear? or can i modify/shave the caliper? i heard like Y31 cima 2 pots or something random may fit?

180.5
03-19-2008, 10:06 AM
I want to get a set of vs-kf's also but wanna know if 18x9 -4 R disk and 18x11 -5 O disk is a good setup for 20mm front fenders and 50mm rear and z brakes all around. if not... what would you guy recommend?