View Full Version : intercooler pipe clamp question
handinpants
03-09-2008, 01:13 AM
so i know some kits come with regular threaded hose clamps, while others come with what is called a T clamp... now mine has the t clmps, i only worry if it will stay one... anyone have experience with them?
s13silvia123
03-09-2008, 01:17 AM
they are better than the threaded clamps and can hold more boost than the threaded ones.
they are better than the threaded clamps and can hold more boost than the threaded ones.
no shit? really.. i did not know that... good to know. i kinda figured a clamp is a clamp. as long as ya seal your shit tight it dont matter..
fakts13
03-09-2008, 03:41 AM
you have to be careful with tbolt clamps, if you tighten too much it will squish/ oval the pipe if it's aluminum. honestly, if you got good beads on the end of the pipes, regular hose clamps are good enough
rican_nick
03-09-2008, 06:52 AM
Worm gear clamps if over tightened will tear into the couplers. Along with worm gear clamps like to strip.
The design of TBolt clamps make it so it doesn't dig in and let's you get a nice/tight seal.
And tbolts look better imo. :)
neilsan
03-09-2008, 07:59 AM
There are also lots of shit brand wormgear clamps that won't hold any torque before falling apart.
Breeze makes good shit.
gippy87
03-09-2008, 11:40 PM
maybe i missed it but whos flamming ya?
jrbump
03-09-2008, 11:46 PM
I think he means neg rep, LOL.
i need tires
03-10-2008, 12:08 AM
main reason t bolt is better because it applies equal force all around the couple unlike the cheapo threaded clamps they usually oval.
handinpants
03-10-2008, 12:16 AM
i tried putting on a t clamp today and i didn't like seeing that it wasn't gripping the whole cuppler so i just used the threaded....
i need tires
03-10-2008, 12:57 AM
i tried putting on a t clamp today and i didn't like seeing that it wasn't gripping the whole cuppler so i just used the threaded....
what?!? everyone tells you the t bolt clamps are better.. and you use the threaded one because you didnt like the fact you couldnt "see" it tightening on the coupler :rofl:
man noobs these days!
GabeS14
03-10-2008, 01:16 AM
who ever just flamed me is fuckin gay! i really didnt know that. god dam..
so whoever you are.. go fuck yourself. quit being so flame happy.
Not everyone is a asshole like you. ya fuckin prick
wow, you must have really pissed someone off..cuz i just posi repped you and usually it would add one or 2 green squares but it did nothing..you must really be in the negative
!Zar!
03-10-2008, 02:24 AM
Bunch of pussies getting pissy.
Whatever.
T-bolt is best.
/thread.
fakts13
03-11-2008, 11:08 PM
wow, tbolt does NOT apply equal force all around. I personally don't like tbolts because I use aluminum tubing for intercooler tubing, and don't like having my tubing ovaled. If you have a good bead on the ends of the tubes you can use some breeze clamps and be fine. if you are using steel pipe or cast aluminum piping, tbolts are fine. threaded clamps will break before they oval your tubing.
gippy87
03-12-2008, 12:04 AM
maybe ovaling your tubing is a sign of over tightening your tbolt clamps... Also it makes a big difference depending on if your using crap ebay tbolts and real tbolt clamps. The ebay ones in my expierence have broken all the time.
IcedOutSoulja13
03-12-2008, 12:24 AM
t clamps ftw
handinpants
03-12-2008, 09:14 AM
thank you to the guy who gave me negative rep. I hope you have a great day today :o)
handinpants
03-12-2008, 09:17 AM
oh by the way the t clamps went on, due to the worm clips breaking on tightening. I'm one of those people who like instant gratification and have to learn from experience ... i'm sure none of you are like that.
SHIFT_*grind*
03-12-2008, 04:10 PM
STOP BITCHING ABOUT GETTING NEGATIVE REP UNLESS YOU WANT MORE
JESUS
i need tires
03-12-2008, 05:59 PM
wow, tbolt does NOT apply equal force all around. I personally don't like tbolts because I use aluminum tubing for intercooler tubing, and don't like having my tubing ovaled. If you have a good bead on the ends of the tubes you can use some breeze clamps and be fine. if you are using steel pipe or cast aluminum piping, tbolts are fine. threaded clamps will break before they oval your tubing.
tbolt does apply equal force all around why do you think 600+ hp cars use them compared to threaded clamps?? the threaded clamps dont oval the piping they oval themselves because they apply too much pressure on one side and the other side doesnt get as much pressure and ovals.
GabeS14
03-12-2008, 06:09 PM
thank you to the guy who gave me negative rep. I hope you have a great day today :o)
i just took away the extra red square, now your almost at zero=thanks?
jspec240
03-12-2008, 10:17 PM
i just took away the extra red square, now your almost at zero=thanks?
I got you to 1 square so just chill and let it be. I was in the same situation and as you can see its all good now.
str8sidewayz
03-12-2008, 10:40 PM
holyu shit! i cant believe a thead went on this long about clamps! look at the 25cent worm clamps vs 5dollar tbolt clamps. price alone shud tell you. enough said.
GabeS14
03-13-2008, 01:36 AM
i just took away the extra red square, now your almost at zero=thanks?
thank you to the guy who gave me negative rep. I hope you have a great day today :o)
I got you to 1 square so just chill and let it be. I was in the same situation and as you can see its all good now.
and yaaayyy, double team on him and now he has 2 green squares!!!
did my good deed for the day!
i shoudl play on the lottery tomorrow, maybe god will compensate me...hehehe
fakts13
03-13-2008, 01:36 AM
if you look at the design of a t-bolt clamp, that alone should tell you that it does NOT apply equal force. it WILL oval an aluminum tube if you tighten it too much. go ahead and try it, that will tell you that it is NOT applying equal force all the way around. if it applied equal force all the way around, it would not oval the tube. i'm not saying they don't clamp tight as hell, I'm just saying I don't like having my tubing ovaled and I think they are overkill for anything that doesn't require something like a wiggins clamp or a vband flange/clamp. i've never had problems with my own car using breeze worm gear clamps, but I guess maybe over 25psi it's required. like I said, t-bolt clamps work well on steel tubing and cast or REALLY thick aluminum, but it has caused me many headaches on 18 gauge aluminum tubing.
edit: wow, neg rep for not agreeing with someone, real mature. at least be a man about it and leave your name
handinpants
03-13-2008, 02:20 AM
oh, i think its really fucked up you wanna hate on noobs, which i'm sure you were never a noob. the forum, especially the tech forum is for people to ask questions, and to make decisions based on the feed back given. We're not on here to be judged for wanting to learn more, and i feel it's people like yourself, with the prejudice attitude towards new people, who end up hurting these forums.
-further more, leaving negative feedback towards people who do not take your advice is rather irresponsible, and since you're only 21, and from chandler, az the same city which recently started teaching their highschool sophmores that internet porn is bad, i really don't expect anything from you except trash talking... :sadwavey:
what?!? everyone tells you the t bolt clamps are better.. and you use the threaded one because you didnt like the fact you couldnt "see" it tightening on the coupler :rofl:
man noobs these days!
hotlavaflow
03-13-2008, 08:38 AM
Well damn since your handing out free posi rep... nah I used worm gear clamps with no problem on the KA-T with aluminum intercooler pipes. I have t-bolts on my twin turbo with steel piping. One of the main reasons for that is if a coupler pops off because of the design of the twin it might be a bitch to get to. With the KA-T everything is right there (doesn't mean I want anything to pop off).
I used these for the S!3: Heavy Duty High Torque Stainless Steel Liner Clamps http://www.turbohoses.com/Clamp.htm
clark
03-13-2008, 09:24 AM
oh, i think its really fucked up you wanna hate on noobs, which i'm sure you were never a noob. the forum, especially the tech forum is for people to ask questions, and to make decisions based on the feed back given. We're not on here to be judged for wanting to learn more, and i feel it's people like yourself, with the prejudice attitude towards new people, who end up hurting these forums.
-further more, leaving negative feedback towards people who do not take your advice is rather irresponsible, and since you're only 21, and from chandler, az the same city which recently started teaching their highschool sophmores that internet porn is bad, i really don't expect anything from you except trash talking... :sadwavey:
internet porn is bad? god dammit....
i'd just like to agree with all of the t-bolt clamp fans out there. have you ever seen a race setup using worm clamps on their intercooler piping?
fakts13
03-14-2008, 12:19 AM
race cars use wiggins clamps or v-band flanges/clamps
Healtoeae86
03-14-2008, 12:32 AM
wiggins clamps are nice, but unless you have deep pockets its a waste of money.
You want ABA clamps. Its worm gear style but doesnt cut into the silicone hose. And while your at it, please make sure your using nice silicone hose couplers. The greddy kit and all ebay stuff are complete junk.
Call baker precision , 562-427-2375 , ask for hung and tell him the secret password is MEOW. no joke. He'll hook you up.
The aba clamps run $3 ish each, but weve used them on cars up to 40psi of boost w/o any problems. you can tighten them a lot tighter then the cheapo clamps. You wont be dispointed, and i personally hate t-bolt clamps. they look ugly.
http://www.springmasters.com/sp/images/hose-clamp-aba-original.jpg
mifesto
05-09-2008, 12:34 PM
honestly to say tbolt clamps are bad because they damage pipe is simply a sign of stupidity. installation error makes you not like something thats superior? geez.
fakts13
05-10-2008, 02:22 AM
honestly to say tbolt clamps are bad because they damage pipe is simply a sign of stupidity. installation error makes you not like something thats superior? geez.
you try using a t-bolt clamp with a spring on it, on aluminum tubing and get back to me after you do. if you can manage to make it hold the tubing together at 30 psi of boost without ovaling the tube you may change my mind. but i've never been able to. it either popped off or i smashed the tube. when you're trying to change something fast having to take the time to make sure the clamps aren't too tight or too loose isn't something i don't want to have to worry about. i've used regular hose clamps at 30+ psi w/ no problems. like i said, if you make a proper bead on the end of tube, it will hold. also i find it pretty amusing you're so quick to say what i think is stupidity when the same could be said about the fact that you think tbolts are superior. hope you can learn to voice your opinion without trying to degrade someone else's one day kid.
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