mb battle's...aka work xd7 knockoffs

[lost_generation]

alright... sence everyone loves great fitment... but cheap prices, once again mb motoring came out with a design.. very similar to the CST's as you can tell...

17x9.5 +15 sounds damn good to me, i just wanted to post this up because of the price... 150 a piece

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/mbmbat.mbr.ang.jpg


other sizes are 18x9.5 +23 and 180 a piece...

discount tire has them, order while they last

[LB.Motoring]

Uhhhhhhhhh


what? Sales


Why.

No.

Those look more like "whats it called" anyways.... Scratching my brain.

[DUFFM4N]

i hate knock offs :(

[DOOK]

well it's either works xt7 or xd9, never made an xd7... and no... those are a knockoff of the motegi mr7s

[Matej]

Are there any 18" MB's that come in 4-lug?

[Sonic Motor]

is it concaved for the 15mm offset?
Looks like the CST wheels people were trying to sell last week for 1g.

Wait, looking at the size, design, and the fact that Atech supplies MB and CST...im pretty sure they are the same wheels haha

[LB.Motoring]

CST Zero-1 KNOCKIEZ

[A Spec Products]

http://www.work-wheels.co.jp/files/files_item/Item_image2_44.jpg

Haha that's not a XT7 knockoff

XT7 looks totally different

Like Robina said, looks like CST

Thinner spokes, tapers toward edge

[FaLKoN240]

Yeah, those totally look like CST wheels... Do we have any idea on the sizing yet?

[240trainee]

They are the same as CST's

not knock offs.

[Ian]

ugh, what a stupid thread



this has been known for a long time

[BobbyDigi]

CST Zero-1 KNOCKIEZ


the guy that posted above you said that Atech (MB japan counterpart) supplies CST.

Could it just be another appendage of Atech?

[DOOK]

motegi mr7
http://www.1010tires.com/images/wheels/motegi_mr7_slvr_lg.jpg http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/mbmbat.mbr.ang.jpg

[Sonic Motor]

http://www.mackinindustries.com/md/yokohama/Resources/modelt7da.jpeg

advan avs T7 IF anything....

Not work XT7

[Nikeboy355]

And $30 off if you pick them up in Orange County... It's a promotion if you buy 4 wheels or 4 tires...

$570 plus tax makes it like $620 out the door...

That's cheap for wheels in that size... But they are ugly and you won't respect yourself or the car...

[300hp owen]

KONIG TANTRUM from 1990.

yuck.

thats a copy of an even older Advan, the Model 7, IIRC.

[articdragon192]

http://www.mackinindustries.com/md/yokohama/Resources/modelt7da.jpeg

advan avs T7 IF anything....

CSTs are knock offs of those Advans.
http://images7.carview.co.jp/parts/images/parts40923_1.jpg
http://www.boyz.co.jp/wheels/zero-120hyper/1.jpg
Looks like CSTs to me. Similar to how MB has some of the A-tech invetory, like their Erasers aka Weapons and such. Just a rebranding of wheels. I'd get them for drifting on. Good looking. Great fitment. And cheap. I wanted of CSTs to begin with. But since these are here, awesome.

[worr20]

anyone know if its concave or just flat

[95KA-Turbo]

YESSSSSS!

Hopefully they'll release 18X9.5 +15s soon, this is awesome, no Japan shipping and super cheap!

[ROIDMONKEY]

http://www.work-wheels.co.jp/files/files_item/Item_image2_44.jpg

Haha that's not a XT7 knockoff

XT7 looks totally different

Like Robina said, looks like CST

Thinner spokes, tapers toward edge
love the wheels in ur signature :) mmmmm :coold:

[ROIDMONKEY]

motegi mr7
http://www.1010tires.com/images/wheels/motegi_mr7_slvr_lg.jpg http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/mbmbat.mbr.ang.jpg
mutegi spokes are thicker, no motegi knock off , they looks more like the CST's , I bet if work release some like that everyone would be all over with no complains LOL
good for track tho

[SoSideways]

I have no complains now either!

Am gonna pick up some for track.

Honestly, they're so cheap, I don't care if I dirt drop and take out a massive chunk of the lip of these wheels.

[turbo2nr]

can anyone confirm if they have concavity like the cst's? if they do im all up in there like swim wear...

[SoSideways]

Dude even if they didn't, they're still a bargain.

[emersonLP]

KONIG TANTRUM from 1990.

yuck.

thats a copy of an even older Advan, the Model 7, IIRC.

YES, I was going to say that. I used to rock some Tantrums on my sweet gen2 integra....*shudder*:ughd:

[turbo2nr]

just called up discount tire rack..

no concavity, the guy went and checked the acutall rims.. but the sizes are still good tho.. so no cst knock offs

[azndoc]

Looks like they just got it from the same manufacture of CST and just renamed it. Which are knocked off of Advan T7. Whatever.

[teamsprock]

if these are not concave, can someone direct me to somewhere that I can order the CST wheel's that are concave? I saw a used set on the forum, but not sure where to get them new?

[95KA-Turbo]

just called up discount tire rack..

no concavity, the guy went and checked the acutall rims.. but the sizes are still good tho.. so no cst knock offs

Are you 100% sure the guy knew what concave meant? Looking at the stock picture there has to be at least SOME concave. Whether or not it is as much as the CSTs is another story...I may have to demand some photos of the actual wheels from the side.

[Ian]

Think about this logically guys...



MB is a knockoff company that uses existing castings for wheels...




Look at the similarities:

-17" diameter
-9.5" wide
-+15 offset


something tells me they're the same thing

[LB.Motoring]

Yeah, theres no way they can be that sizing with no concavity,

that would mean they would have like a HUGE BACK PAD. like 3" thick weighing a buttload.

[ZX88]

they look ok im mean pretty nice sizes for $150 a wheel.

[turbo2nr]

i explained what i meant by concavity, and telling him if the rims curve in towards the center. he said it on a slight angle but nothing crazy.. so im guessing its slight but nothing like the cst's.

[Sonic Motor]

concavity is the shit. I heart concavity on wheels.

[Ian]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/240trainee/Battle1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/240trainee/Battle2.jpg

[turbo2nr]

if those are the rims then the guy at tire rack is a crack head

[Ian]

they are, i received shipment like 30 mins ago

[McRussellPants]

Those wheels rolled out of the exact same mold as the CSTs.

they in all likelyhood rolled out of the same company.

[atom]

MB just buys shit in bulk and rebrands it. Way back when they started out they rebadged a bunch of Manaray wheels (had manaray still cast into the wheel with MB center cap), then the A-Techs (same as manarays), and now CST's. Nothing new.

[HyperTek]

least they aint rotas.. the fc guys over at rx7club love knockies jus as much as robby hehehe

these mb dont look bad tho.do they advertise as much as rota and those other brands? they seem to be more low key..

id rock em on a mustang

[slideways2004]

if those are the rims then the guy at tire rack is a crack head

tire rack?? these are discount tires wheels

[BobbyDigi]

Yeah, theres no way they can be that sizing with no concavity,

that would mean they would have like a HUGE BACK PAD. like 3" thick weighing a buttload.

the other MB's actually have no difference in concavity or appearance with the difference in offsets (competition & weapon).

From the front of the wheel ,they all look the same, this may also apply to this new one

[nightshiftgarage]

hmm , what size tire would fit nice on a hammered s14?like 225/40 ?

[Bushido]

cool shits. im always game for cheap good fitting wheels.

no 4 lug offered thought i suppose...

[Ian]

the other MB's actually have no difference in concavity or appearance with the difference in offsets (competition & weapon).

From the front of the wheel ,they all look the same, this may also apply to this new one


oh my god...did you not see my pictures?



forget the fact that i've had 2 sets of CST's in my hands before and I'm saying officially, on the record, "These are the same exact thing"

[slideways2004]

there goes the u.s. market for cst hyperzzzzz

[turbo2nr]

now everyone jump on these before price rises to 250+ a rim!

[jobestudios]

Damnit! I was regretting the day this thread appeared, I work for DTC and have been keeping quiet on these wheels so they wouldn't be played out too bad when my car is back on the road. They are the exact same as CST's that people are paying ridiculous amounts for, there is a pretty limited stock in each size on these wheels in the country though, I might have to order another 4 for drift spares before they go on backorder just like weapons did...
255/40/17 RT615 for the front, 275's on the rear.
http://www.team-blend.net/jacksonphoto/flushmaybe2.jpg
With 30mm front fenders they fit pretty flush with my tires/ride height

[d*star180]

Lol at people thinking Motegis and CST's arent knockoffs as it is.
As stated above, their knockoff T7's.
The sizes are legit and their hot as all fuck.
I planned on getting CST's anyway, so im buying a set soon, forget all the haters.
If the cars legit, and you fit them like a man, its game.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i23/dstar180/ghostdancer6.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i23/dstar180/sdtjsrtj.jpg

[Tops*]

I am SO happy right now. I don't give a shit if they're knockoffs or Advan T7's. An affordable track set is just what I needed.

[IIIXziuR]

These are really nice when done right.
Its a good wheel for a budget price.

A good alternative for the FN kids I would say.

[Frosty_spl]

Cst wheels look pretty gangster on the car. I would rock them in chrome.

Oh konig makes a XT7 knockoff now, but with no concavity. I gotta sell my xt7s now.:cry:

[DrtyRat]

oh my god...did you not see my pictures?



forget the fact that i've had 2 sets of CST's in my hands before and I'm saying officially, on the record, "These are the same exact thing"
He was refering to Robby's post that said @ that size/offset, it had to be concave.

[BobbyDigi]

oh my god...did you not see my pictures?



forget the fact that i've had 2 sets of CST's in my hands before and I'm saying officially, on the record, "These are the same exact thing"


i see the pics, i see that they are concave.

My point was that MB wheels (weapon and competition) face dont change even though the offset does. the hub corn gets larger in depth.


Either way, Don't yell at me man. Just because i know about it doesnt mean that you'd catch me on gravity cast dumpster junk!



part 2 - we've all seen what happens to the barrel of a cast wheel versus the barrel of a spun AL barrel.... right?

[Ian]

yup what about it?


as long as you're not curb surfing at 80mph I don't see the issue.


I've always had cast wheels and i've only ever broken one. It took a side impact at 45mph to do it and even then, it still held air.

[BobbyDigi]

I understand that you may not have experienced it personally, but i have (oem cast alero wheel) was split like a ripped piece of paper because a log fell out of the back of a truck going 60 down a highway

[Ian]

i'm pretty sure that a forged wheel would do the same



you hit a LOG at 60mph

[94cc0rd]

do the 17x9.5+15 clear front s14 coils?

[Tops*]

:keke: I log at 60 will do the trick.

The sizing on the S13 above are the CST 9.5jx18 +15, right?

[turbo2nr]

do the 17x9.5+15 clear front s14 coils?

i dont see why it wouldn't in the wheel filament thread they have people running that rim size no problem..

[Ricks15]

These MB's are cheap at 150.00 a piece you can't beat it.

[Ian]

:keke: I log at 60 will do the trick.

The sizing on the S13 above are the CST 9.5jx18 +15, right?

looks like 17/18 to me


i find it weird that the 18x9.5 comes in +23...

[Matej]

Anyone know what sizes and offsets these come in, does MB make anything deep in 18?

http://www.wheelsbymbmotoring.com/images/lrg_Classic.jpg

[LB.Motoring]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[ayuaddict]

Anyone know what sizes and offsets these come in, does MB make anything deep in 18?

http://www.wheelsbymbmotoring.com/images/lrg_Classic.jpg

well according to discount tire dot com those dont come in 5x114.3 so it dont matter.

[Matej]

Ohhh...gheysauce, ehh, I don't like them anymore anyway haha.

I can't decide if I want a sporty look with concave wheels, or a street car deep lip look. They can both look great, tough choice.

Hmm, I'm leaning more towards deep, even though the price of MB wheels is tempting.

[r-b-x]

kazama is/is going to sell a 4 lug version of the cst hypers. does that mean mb can get ahold of 'em as well?

[ayuaddict]

Ohhh...gheysauce, ehh, I don't like them anymore anyway haha.

I can't decide if I want a sporty look with concave wheels, or a street car deep lip look. They can both look great, tough choice.

Hmm, I'm leaning more towards deep, even though the price of MB wheels is tempting.

yea dude, that polished lip sticking out past the super stretched tire look is always a sight to see. ive always liked the whole "fat lip front, concave face rear" look. if anybody, you could pull it off and that way you save money too ahaha.

[BobbyDigi]

i'm pretty sure that a forged wheel would do the same



you hit a LOG at 60mph

the barrel material is what you need to look t in this case....

a cast barrel will rip like paper,

a spun barrel will bend and ultimately retain air... and rolling integrity.

`i could go`on for hours

[Ian]

kazama is/is going to sell a 4 lug version of the cst hypers. does that mean mb can get ahold of 'em as well?


no


MB buys in batch, which means what they have is what they've got. No custom orders, no nothing.



I used to deal with them, this is how it is. You can't request a finish, bolt pattern, offset, anything. Their wheels are already made long before they even know they're going to sell them lol

[Matej]

MB buys in batch, which means what they have is what they've got. No custom orders, no nothing.
The 4-lug CST's aren't custom, they sell them normally, so if MB buys another batch it could be possible. You can already buy a set through RHD Japan for about 1400$ shipped.
I think they only make them in one size though, and it's weak, 17x9 +27.

[atom]

They ARE custom. Only Kazama sells the 4 lugs like the guy said above.

Anyways, I just noticed MB is gonna be selling the Manaray EXE Sportlines. I totally wanted these for my DD. Sweet.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4307/mbmrenlargeoz9.jpg

[Ian]

The 4-lug CST's aren't custom, they sell them normally, so if MB buys another batch it could be possible. You can already buy a set through RHD Japan for about 1400$ shipped.
I think they only make them in one size though, and it's weak, 17x9 +27.

no we're on different pages


i meant w/e MB has, is what they're gonna sell...You can't call them and be like "hey if i get 10 guys can you do such and such?"

They present the inventory that they buy as what they produce

[murda-c]

I understand that you may not have experienced it personally, but i have (oem cast alero wheel) was split like a ripped piece of paper because a log fell out of the back of a truck going 60 down a highway

well if it's good enough for olds
mobile..

[yokotas13]

The 4-lug CST's aren't custom, they sell them normally, so if MB buys another batch it could be possible. You can already buy a set through RHD Japan for about 1400$ shipped.
I think they only make them in one size though, and it's weak, 17x9 +27.
i can get them less than that :)


regardless, buying the first knockoff of a wheel is cool

but the knockoff of a knockoff


gay]

[drift into a curb]

What's these weigh like? My T7s weigh 20lbs even for a 18x9. I'm just curious....

[sidewayz240]

regardless, buying the first knockoff of a wheel is cool

but the knockoff of a knockoff


gay]


Technically its not a knockoff of a knockoff, its a rebadging of a knockoff.

[turbo2nr]

17x9.5 is 23lb

[drift into a curb]

Thanks for the info. My 18x10 T7 is 21.05 lbs!!
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4779/21lbadvanhi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Ian]

i weighed these and they looked more like 20 lbs for 17x9.5


they feel light

[articdragon192]

I'm getting a set for my Z32 for drifting. Hopefully before they run out, lol.

[LB.Motoring]

i can get them less than that :)


regardless, buying the first knockoff of a wheel is cool

but the knockoff of a knockoff


gay]

Grant dont get pissy you lost a edge of the market, hahah JK



I'd get a set of these if I had a S chassis still for track rims, damn stupid COrollAs

:bash: :bash: :bash:

[Kcheng]

Does any body have a pic of how they look like from the back where it sits on the HUB/brake? i wanna see if i can get a 25mm spacer in there
thanks.

[drift into a curb]

with a 25mm spacer, it'll cover the wheel studs. My 20mm almost cover them I'm pretty sure.

[Kcheng]

i got a 25mm and the open end lugs bulge out by like 2mm maybe so i cant get it to sit on a flat back side

[heiyuu]

Fuck if only they offered em polished like CSTs I'd be all over this:
http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/gazou/0710/0710012002434/0710012002434s2.jpg

[Ian]

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/223/42/68101674/n68101674_34344850_1006.jpg

[hitman]

gay; these wheels used to be cool.
they might still be but probably not for much longer anymore lol

[LB.Motoring]

RIP once decently cool track rim CST's

http://www.avidimages.com/preview/2006/08/08/graveyard_at_night_avidimages_598_prev.jpg

[Ian]

I can guarantee that they're not gonna get played out as bad as everyone is afraid of.


I'm gonna run these until I get a job and get something better.

[atom]

I love how in zilvia land something is cool until people start actually getting them.

They were cheap ass wheels back when they were JDM tyte and they are cheap ass wheels now.

[SoSideways]

I love how in zilvia land something is cool until people start actually getting them.

They were cheap ass wheels back when they were JDM tyte and they are cheap ass wheels now.

That's because not just a few people get them, but everyone that seeks approval from the dudes on here goes out and gets them, and they are instantly played out.

Like the FNs. They were cool wheels for the price, and still are, but people whored them out, and now they're not cool because it seems like everyone posting pics of their cars have those on their cars. The S-chassis might as well have come stock with them lol

Now that these are out, people are afraid they will become the next FNs, because they come in better sizes and offset than the "usual" FNs, and they cost less!

[94cc0rd]

so.. i didnt' read through the whole thread but i noticed that ian said that these were the exact same as the cst's.. is there any proof or confirmation that these mb's are just rebadged... and actually the same exact wheels with same construction and casting process or what not?

[Ian]

I can't prove it for sure


But just think about it logically


What is more cost effective?


From a business standpoint it would make no sense for them to make the wheel themselves if it's really that cheap.



That's why Rota makes their own wheels. They copy wheels that can't be had anymore or very high quality wheels.

[SoSideways]

so.. i didnt' read through the whole thread but i noticed that ian said that these were the exact same as the cst's.. is there any proof or confirmation that these mb's are just rebadged... and actually the same exact wheels with same construction and casting process or what not?

Dude... $150 a wheel.... come on.

Even if they weren't the EXACT SAME as the CST, would you mind?

Better yet, has anyone destroyed the much played out, and "everyone probably has seen or touched a set" of the MB Weapons? No?

If no, then I think these new wheels will be just as good as the Weapons as far as holding up to abuse. Comes in better sizes/offsets too.

[ayuaddict]

i think MB should start selling 18x10.5 -20 VSKFs for $200 each.

har har har

sue me.

blow me.

don't forget to kiss the tip.




I think the "problem" here was that some semi-exclusive wheels, i say this very loosely seeing that my mother could hop on the train buy a pair of these for ~¥30,000, are now available to pretty much everybody in the US. but because of the sizing not as many people will actually buy them, its a variation of natural selection i suppose.

it would be weird seeing them on a mustang however, but dare i say it, i think they would look cool.

[95KA-Turbo]

Well considering VS-KFs are cast wheels it wouldn't surprise me if someone doesn't start copying it.

CSTs aren't a super name brand wheel company, they sold in Japan for 150 bucks a piece (for quite some time before the demand for them caused the price to almost double) there is no reason they shouldn't sell over here for the same price.

[SR20d2fourT]

I love how in zilvia land something is cool until people start actually getting them.

They were cheap ass wheels back when they were JDM tyte and they are cheap ass wheels now.

It's a nice wheel.
not everyone has 2-3k to spend on wheels. I'd much rather buy some footwork and susp. than baller ass wheels....but then again, who doesn't like ballin wheels? Just a cheap alternative, so to each his own.

[Ian]

I can't afford to break a VS-XX and have to replace w/ a new one


I can afford to break an MB and replace it w/ a new one

[Tearlessj]

I can't afford to break a VS-XX and have to replace w/ a new one


I can afford to break an MB and replace it w/ a new one
I cant afford to break a SE wheel and replace w/ a new one.



:keke:

[Tops*]

I tried e-mailing MB to see if they have any plans of releasing a 9.5jx18 +15 and/or in chrome, but my e-mail was denied...twice.

Yuta, if you or anyone for that matter, can produce VS-KF's for $200 a wheel, I'll buy them forever, if that makes sense. Can you buy something forever?

[Touge_Monster]

Im hoping to pick up a pair this weekend:) .

[JAYTRON]

I tried e-mailing MB to see if they have any plans of releasing a 9.5jx18 +15 and/or in chrome, but my e-mail was denied...twice.

Yuta, if you or anyone for that matter, can produce VS-KF's for $200 a wheel, I'll buy them forever, if that makes sense. Can you buy something forever?

why not if you have the income haha :)

[KiDyNomiTe]

They are the same as CST's

not knock offs.

requoting for the 30 people that missed this in this thread...

Same wheels, different names...

They look good, if you can't be a baller and buy some expensive shit, just buy these!

[jobestudios]

I tried e-mailing MB to see if they have any plans of releasing a 9.5jx18 +15 and/or in chrome, but my e-mail was denied...twice

I work for DTC and I have the 18x9.5 +15 in my computer system database, want a product code?

[ayuaddict]

I tried e-mailing MB to see if they have any plans of releasing a 9.5jx18 +15 and/or in chrome, but my e-mail was denied...twice.

Yuta, if you or anyone for that matter, can produce VS-KF's for $200 a wheel, I'll buy them forever, if that makes sense. Can you buy something forever?

18x9.5 +15 is available but not the chrome finish.

according to my friend who works at ATC (who got me the wheels) there is "matte silver" and some variation of bronze.

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

for the price these can't be beat. i mean nothing beats a new set of TE's, but if by buying these wheels gives you that extra cash to make just one more event this year, then what more could you ask for?


buy buy buy buy........

do it now!

[Tops*]

I work for DTC and I have the 18x9.5 +15 in my computer system database, want a product code?

18x9.5 +15 is available but not the chrome finish.

according to my friend who works at ATC (who got me the wheels) there is "matte silver" and some variation of bronze.

Well shit, my search skills were lacking a couple days ago then. I checked Discount Tire and the other site and became all depressed after only finding the +23 offset.

[nevaland9]

id rock em in 18s on a S13

[KwKouki]

dood, 4 luggers are looking at the following for $1500 +/-

MB battles
falken rt-615 tires
ichiba 5 lug hubs
5 lug stock rotors

yesh, a brand new 5 lug setup for the price of a set of works/gram lights. who cares if they are "played out" they will get you started or if you dont give a fuck about trends you can rock a very awsome wheel design.

[Matej]

In my opinion the exclusivity and the hunt for nice size 4-lug wheels is half the fun.

[KwKouki]

In my opinion the exclusivity and the hunt for nice size 4-lug wheels is half the fun.

:rofl: I force myself to think that only having 16 lugs is weight savings *smacks forehead*

[drftwerks]

the diff in the 15 and 23 off sets are probably in the back pad anyway, so i dont mind.

[sw20>>s14]

yeah, i was hoping no one would find out about these and post about them...been keeping my mouth shut for the longest time...just cuz i didnt want to piss the CST guys off trying to sell and trying to avoid yet another decent rim being played to epic proportions...haha...

whatever, theyre cheap, get them and shut up about mb or cst...theyre the same and both are just as cheap...

[Ian]

yeah, i was hoping no one would find out about these and post about them...been keeping my mouth shut for the longest time...just cuz i didnt want to piss the CST guys off trying to sell and trying to avoid yet another decent rim being played to epic proportions...haha...

whatever, theyre cheap, get them and shut up about mb or cst...theyre the same and both are just as cheap...



I kept my mouth shut til this thread came up haha.


I already had a set in my possession

[Gnnr]

These MB's are cheap at 150.00 a piece you can't beat it.

Unless discount tire does that buy 4 items get $100 off thing again. That would be the fucking cherry on top. :)

Ian, you mind putting those on a digi scale for us?

[water]

OK.

Why are people disappointed about this? Look on Yahoo Japan, CST's are like $2 a wheel. Oh no, now they're available here for the same ridiculously cheap prices.

I've had NS-01's (CST D-spec) and they were heavy as far as light wheels go. I've held zero-1's, they're heavy too. These will be heavy.

If you want light, buy forged or good cast wheels (MAT).

And for people "wishing" they offered polished versions like CST - um, CST doesn't offer that either. Only an even heavier chrome version. It's not that hard to polish aluminum anyway and at $160ish a wheel, you can practice and feel safe.

[trogdor]

these are going to look amazing on my car in 3 days

[AKsamuraiS14]

i have real CST's on my s14, and my buddy just got in a set of the MB and they look identical except for the center caps, which i think it looks better without the center cap. but point being, there are noooo difference in rims, they weigh the same, and quality looks and feels the same.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/Aero-k/DSCI0686.jpg
f:17x9.5 +15 r:18x9.5 +23 w/ 20mm spacer.
18x9.5 +15 is on back order from japan, and i didn't feel like waiting, so i got the +23et. and inside news, CST is gonna start discountinuing the Hyper Zero-1 and they are gonna team up with URAS.
like i said, inside news from japan, i may be wrong tho.

[doc99]

Anyone know if the 18x9.5 +23 will clear the coilover on an S13 in the front?

[OptionZero]

no it will not

[AKsamuraiS14]

Anyone know if the 18x9.5 +23 will clear the coilover on an S13 in the front?

17x9.5 +15 in the front BARELY clears, so i dont think they will, probably with like 5-7mm slip on spacers, and u should be fine

[doc99]

Thanks guys +1 for ya

[sultan]

i got some, i'm looking forward to blowing a tire drifting and grinding these cheap ass things into the pavement, chunks of wheel flying everywhere.

[sw20>>s14]

is MB/DT gonna be whoring out the D-specs too by any chance?

[ayuaddict]

that would be pretty cool.

got i wish i stayed stock body, i could run these ALL DAY.

[KA24DESOneThree]

That's cheap for wheels in that size... But they are ugly and you won't respect yourself or the car...

Best post in thread, other than the one that said "I'd rather buy some footwork and suspension."

Heavy junk is fun!

[Ian]

I love uneducated posts!



You have no idea what the quality of these wheels are. They are just under 20 lbs for 17x9.5, which is a great weight. In fact, oh wait, that's about how much a work XD9 weighs.


Hmmmm...

[mike_0678]

Don't you know that the only way you can tell the quality of a wheel is if it costs over $500 per wheel. People with money buy wheels for the name. People without buy for the purpose and the style.

[IIIXziuR]

Most people are buying this because they cannot afford the $500 a piece wheels. These really aren't that bad and no one is trying to Formula Race in these things.

They really are decent IMHO, could deal for the price and size!

[exitspeed]

Per request, here are the actual weights of the MB wheels.

17x9.5 is 26lbs a wheel and the 18x9.5 is 27lbs.

http://www.mnwxchaser.com/beating-a-dead-horse.gif