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az_240
03-04-2008, 05:36 PM
So how do all these super low 240s do it?
I have 18x8s +18 offset on 225/40/18 tires right now on kts' that have almost an inch left of lowering and I rub on the frame occasionally going over bumps.
I want to go lower but dont understand how I could possibly do that without rubbing more.

Is there some sort of trick to making it so the tires dont rub on the frame?

kensreliableb18b
03-04-2008, 05:39 PM
huh?

yes

magic

magic = mallet

hammer

away

projectRDM
03-04-2008, 05:42 PM
Where, on the front of the apron, or the actual rail?

powersteeringless180sx
03-04-2008, 05:46 PM
yup pick up a hammer and go to town. if it's rubbing against the rail something maybe wrong.

na12uto
03-04-2008, 05:47 PM
huh?

yes

magic

magic = mallet

hammer

away


AMEN lol where does it rub your driving look above the tire where does it look like itll hit, btw be careful

lflkajfj12123
03-04-2008, 05:48 PM
you have 225 on an 8 and 40 series sidewall

try 215 on a 9 and a smaller sidewall and then hammer away

things will then happen

SC_S13
03-04-2008, 05:59 PM
use tires with less sidewall, and take the fender liner off the front wells. if its still rubbing, you probably should hammer a little bit but as na12uto said, be carefull. have you relocated your harness? you might want to check if thats rubbing as well

Ian
03-04-2008, 07:20 PM
225/40/18 isn't THAT excessively tall


but the super low cars will have a 215/40/17 on them (hitman, 240trainee, Brian **Harte**)

koukimonster139
03-04-2008, 07:21 PM
beat that shit

beat it out

!Zar!
03-04-2008, 07:22 PM
Hammer and caster.


Come on people. Easy stuff.

az_240
03-06-2008, 01:22 AM
hammer on the frame? Cuz thats where it occasionally rubs. I will be getting some 18x9.5 +15s all around. I will probably keep the tires and see how they do on the 9.5 rims.

I already took care of the fenders. No probs there. Harness is tucked right next to the frame and is in good shape.

And I have stock tension rods.

Thanks for the replys

ayuaddict
03-06-2008, 01:34 AM
you hammered the pinch weld thing up right?

that shit will kill your shit.

ant_s13
03-06-2008, 04:31 AM
yeah just hammer anything and everything haha. but the pinch welds around the arch (top, back edge etc) will all get in the way

SoSideways
03-06-2008, 07:53 AM
225/40/18 isn't THAT excessively tall


but the super low cars will have a 215/40/17 on them (hitman, 240trainee, Brian **Harte**)

Damn I didn't make the list :(

upSLIDEdown
03-06-2008, 08:28 AM
225/40/18 isn't THAT excessively tall


but the super low cars will have a 215/40/17 on them (hitman, 240trainee, Brian **Harte**)

225/35/18 here. Probably a 215/35 next time around.

Ian
03-06-2008, 09:35 AM
you got a 225/35/18? they make that?

upSLIDEdown
03-06-2008, 09:49 AM
you got a 225/35/18? they make that?

Fuck yes they make that. Thats how I does. :coold:

EDIT: I used to run 225/40 up front, but it rubbed directly over the top of the tire, on the leading edge of the strut tower. Kinda hard to describe, but it's a metal corner that is perpendicular to the tire. I got tired of it, and wanted to drop the car more, but couldn't (and still drive it hard). The 225/35 fixed my problem. The tire is shorter, plus I dropped it 5 threads, and I still don't rub.

Koopa Troopa
03-06-2008, 12:54 PM
Add some fuckin camber...

I was running 245/45/R17 on 17x9+25 front with no rubbing lock to lock.. I'll be switching to 255/40/R17 now..

drift-it
03-06-2008, 01:06 PM
Hammer where it's rubbing, then spray paint it and go drive again. If it still rubs then repeat those steps.



Don't be scared, you know what to do.

http://www.firsteditionproducts.com/sites/817/ecom/items/hammer2.jpg

racepar1
03-06-2008, 01:19 PM
You need to clearence the pinch weld on the fender apron, if you don't it can cut your tire. You can either use a hammer to bend it, or you can use a die-grinder with a cut-off wheel to cut it out and then weld the seam up. I did the latter and if I so choose I can pretty much set my fucking frame rails on the ground and still retain full compression travel (all 2 fucking inches of it! Fucking nissan! :smash: ).

Bushido
03-06-2008, 01:23 PM
you can also use vice grips to bend it inwards... thats what i did.

Matej
03-06-2008, 01:25 PM
Sit back and accept it.

az_240
03-06-2008, 03:57 PM
im not talking about the pinch welds.... that is taken care of. Im talking about the FRAME looking piece RIGHT above the tire

lflkajfj12123
03-06-2008, 03:58 PM
just bend over and take it

well said matej

upSLIDEdown
03-06-2008, 04:06 PM
im not talking about the pinch welds.... that is taken care of. Im talking about the FRAME looking piece RIGHT above the tire

Yeah, that's what I was rubbing too. Right over the tire. It's kinda like the leading edge where the metal goes vertically upwards to form the strut tower. I rubbed it too. Then I got 225/35/18s and dropped it another 5 threads. No rub, and lower. =)

Matej
03-06-2008, 04:44 PM
just bend over and take it

well said matej
Sarcasm? Haha, you hate me so much.

racepar1
03-06-2008, 05:44 PM
im not talking about the pinch welds.... that is taken care of. Im talking about the FRAME looking piece RIGHT above the tire

That's exactly what I am talking about, it is commonly referred to as the fender apron. You already bent the pinch weld right above the tire and it is still hitting? If so what coils are you running? Also please post pics of your ride heighth. If your coils are full length adjustable you need to take your springs out and jack up the suspension untill the car is resting on the bump stop. Then you adjust the wheel up via the lower mount adjustment untill you have about 1/4" of clearence. If you want it to go lower than that you must adjust the spring perch. The position of the lower mount basically adjusts the shock position. Once you max that out you must adjust the spring perch and give up what little travel you have in the front.

az_240
03-08-2008, 04:20 AM
KTS coilovers... Its not rubbing the pinch welds at all. Its hitting DIRECTLY ABOVE THE CENTER OF THE TIRE.... the flat frame looking thing that extends to the front of the car...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/ImportedPhotos00027.jpg

ayuaddict
03-08-2008, 04:41 AM
yea.

weird.

your car isn't even low.

by the way,

posting a pic of your whole car didn't help.

i think posting a pic of the front section of your car (forward of door) with the fender off will however help greatly.

S14SwimShark105
03-08-2008, 05:10 AM
I'm also going through the same thing, but I am running retarded size tires, they are 245/45/18. That is SUPER high profile for a 240sx haha

I'm about the same height as you are at the moment and still have about 3 inches from touching the frame or whatever, but on hard corners at the track and such it rubs big time and you can feel the car actually slow down, sucks but that just means to either go to 17's or get lower profile tires

C. Anderson
03-08-2008, 06:31 AM
Are the dampers set super soft?

1985zcar
03-08-2008, 12:07 PM
yeah that doesn't make sense at all...something's wrong,.

racepar1
03-08-2008, 02:02 PM
KTS coilovers... Its not rubbing the pinch welds at all. Its hitting DIRECTLY ABOVE THE CENTER OF THE TIRE.... the flat frame looking thing that extends to the front of the car...


Take a pic of where the tire is rubbing with the tire off. What you're saying makes no sense at all. On an s-13 there is no flat frame thing above the tire, just the pinch weld that I have been referring to. I haven't really payed attention on any of the s-14's that I have worked on though, since I don't own one, so maybe their different. Personally though I think your ride heighth is fine, but I guess different people want different things from their cars.

S14SwimShark105
03-08-2008, 02:10 PM
basically how people go so low is just get super low profile tires, lower it as much as you can, and run as much camber as you can take. Along time ago when I bought the car, it came with 225/35/18 really small tiny tires that is what you would want to run in the front if you want to dump it, in the back it wont really matter you can drop it to the ground.

wickedS14
03-08-2008, 02:22 PM
KTS coilovers... Its not rubbing the pinch welds at all. Its hitting DIRECTLY ABOVE THE CENTER OF THE TIRE.... the flat frame looking thing that extends to the front of the car...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/ImportedPhotos00027.jpg

Are you talking about the engine rails? Best bet would be to either get smaller rim or tire or try raising your car up just slightly. But if you don't want to do neither, then just run'em just like that.:2f2f:

upSLIDEdown
03-08-2008, 02:23 PM
yeah that doesn't make sense at all...something's wrong,.

Take a pic of where the tire is rubbing with the tire off. What you're saying makes no sense at all. On an s-13 there is no flat frame thing above the tire, just the pinch weld that I have been referring to. I haven't really payed attention on any of the s-14's that I have worked on though, since I don't own one, so maybe their different. Personally though I think your ride heighth is fine, but I guess different people want different things from their cars.

I rubbed the same thing when I had 225/40s and I have an S13, so yes, you can rub over top the tire. I'm not driving my car, or I'd go outside and take a pic. If someone posts a pic looking from the hub, straight up to the strut tower, I can show you what he means.

basically how people go so low is just get super low profile tires, lower it as much as you can, and run as much camber as you can take. Along time ago when I bought the car, it came with 225/35/18 really small tiny tires that is what you would want to run in the front if you want to dump it, in the back it wont really matter you can drop it to the ground.

True story. That's what I run.

upSLIDEdown
03-08-2008, 02:33 PM
Here:

I rubbed on that corner(edge, whatever you want to call it). It's flat, then shoots straight up to start forming the strut tower.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1152/harness2kf6.jpg

racepar1
03-08-2008, 03:45 PM
If you're rubbing on the front right there more caster will move the wheel back in the wheelwell a bit and help with that.

Ian
03-08-2008, 03:58 PM
Add some fuckin camber...

I was running 245/45/R17 on 17x9+25 front with no rubbing lock to lock.. I'll be switching to 255/40/R17 now..



that's because your car is not low

spools14
03-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Here:

I rubbed on that corner(edge, whatever you want to call it). It's flat, then shoots straight up to start forming the strut tower.


I used to rub on that, in both my s14 and s13 now... i was able to beat the fuck out of it and get like 20mm maybe more clearance. Doesn't look pretty in the engine bay but whatever.

wanganwonder
03-09-2008, 07:59 PM
propane torch

hammer

and repaint so you that if you still rub you can see where

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/wanganwonder/entry5.jpg

lock to lock all day with spaced tie rods

225/40/18 on a 10

Impact Drift
03-09-2008, 08:54 PM
everyone is out for blood with this whole hammering talk. It's like misery all over again!

But I agree, a sledge hammer is your best fix for dis won.

wanganwonder
03-09-2008, 11:08 PM
i use a small hammer

smaller impact area = more pressure = more dent

and i cant stress enough

TORCH

racepar1
03-10-2008, 02:16 AM
Hammering that area of the chasis structure is absolutely retarded if you do nothing to renforce it. That is the base of the strut tower, EXTREMELY structural! How about this, instead of going for the gangster ass dumped look you actually set-up your suspension to work as well as possible within the original design constraints! Or if you actually have a brain and are capable of using it re-design it to work correctly. If you rub there the proper way to fix it is to tub the wheel wells.

!Zar!
03-10-2008, 02:32 AM
Hammer and caster.


Come on people. Easy stuff.

Did you all fucking miss the answer or what?

az_240
03-10-2008, 02:33 AM
I rub on the piece that UPSLIDEDOWN posted right in the middle directly above the middle of the tire. It is different on an s14.... it has more of a box shape and runs to the front of the fender.

I already pounded the part he circled.... and do not have any probs there.

So you guys hammer on that flat part directly above the middle of the tire? I know I am not that low but want to go lower.... that is why I am trying to figure out how the hell people get their front tires all the way in the fender.
As I said earlier... I am getting 18x9.5s... I will prolly stick those 225s on em. Im kinda worried they will be too streched tho.... The tires are goodyear GS-D3s

az_240
03-10-2008, 02:37 AM
Hammering that area of the chasis structure is absolutely retarded if you do nothing to renforce it. That is the base of the strut tower, EXTREMELY structural! How about this, instead of going for the gangster ass dumped look you actually set-up your suspension to work as well as possible within the original design constraints! Or if you actually have a brain and are capable of using it re-design it to work correctly. If you rub there the proper way to fix it is to tub the wheel wells.

This is why I don't want to just start hammering whatever the fuck is there...

I still have to get some stuff welded up because some of the pinch welds and metal got seperated from all the pounding.

racepar1
03-10-2008, 02:41 AM
I'm not trying to attack you, you are just asking a question. I am attacking anyone who thinks that hammering a structural part of the chasis so that they can have a super dope ride heighth is a good idea. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!

upSLIDEdown
03-10-2008, 09:44 AM
I'm not trying to attack you, you are just asking a question. I am attacking anyone who thinks that hammering a structural part of the chasis so that they can have a super dope ride heighth is a good idea. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!

Hence the reason I haven't beat on it. I know it's structural. That's why I went with a 225/35. Shorter tire=lower, plus I was able to go 5 threads lower on my coilovers. =)

ericcastro
03-10-2008, 09:55 AM
I put my money on the suspention being set up wrong !!!

I mean, we can see the top of your wheel in your pics, so its probably you mis setting your coil overs.??

1. does your car ride smooth??

2. does every bump rattle something in your ride??

the answer should be 2.

SoSideways
03-10-2008, 10:07 AM
I'm not trying to attack you, you are just asking a question. I am attacking anyone who thinks that hammering a structural part of the chasis so that they can have a super dope ride heighth is a good idea. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!

Didn't Wiissass also show you that having a lower CG helps with the car's handling more than having it at "OEM" height?

Yes, most people dump their cars without thought just for looks, but there are also people dumping it for function, don't go bashing everyone that wants to lower their car just cause you're not into it, even though it was already proven that it is beneficial.

sncs14
03-10-2008, 11:55 AM
Didn't Wiissass also show you that having a lower CG helps with the car's handling more than having it at "OEM" height?

Yes, most people dump their cars without thought just for looks, but there are also people dumping it for function, don't go bashing everyone that wants to lower their car just cause you're not into it, even though it was already proven that it is beneficial.


I think he was referring to people excessively lowering, screwing up roll center and all that jazz. Lowering to a certain extent is beneficial to handling, beyond that you'll be spending a lot of time and money to make it work better when it's so low.

I rubbed in a few spots at the height in my signature with 245/40 on 17x9+5 up front. Not where the OP is talking about though. Seems a bit odd.

SilviaSR20DET
03-10-2008, 12:23 PM
i get rubbing when i go over bumps and i believe i hit the inner walls kinda more towards the front of the car not above near the struts. I also rub when i fully turn the wheel to full lock. Would caster get rid of it and setting my coilovers to stiffer settings (its on full soft right now)?

SoSideways
03-10-2008, 12:28 PM
Argh... just bang it with a hammer.

What's everyone freaking out about banging the fender well out of the way all of a sudden for?

There has been plenty of people who have done it, and none of their strut towers have deformed under breaking or taking a sweeping left or right turn, which puts heavy stress to the entire outside front corner of the car like you guys are saying it will do if you hammered it.

If it was hazardous to do, then nobody would be doing it.

ericcastro
03-10-2008, 12:36 PM
If it was hazardous to do, then nobody would be doing it.
............:bowrofl:

wanganwonder
03-10-2008, 02:41 PM
I'm not trying to attack you, you are just asking a question. I am attacking anyone who thinks that hammering a structural part of the chasis so that they can have a super dope ride heighth is a good idea. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!

we should just stop drifting altogether. it ruins perfectly good tires. absolutely retarded.

IDIOTS!!!!!!!!

jskateborders
03-10-2008, 02:45 PM
15's anyone?

TheArkitekt
03-10-2008, 02:46 PM
tub your fenders...weld, chop, rebuild. its fun

BlckBeautyVTEC
03-10-2008, 03:48 PM
hammer the frame rail man, like 10 people already told you to hammer just hammer it or put stock suspension on. thats what i did on my s14 only thing that rubs is my tire on the fender when im at full lock, cause i dont wanna hammer it out more which isn't that big of a deal for me

WagDatto
03-10-2008, 04:26 PM
You probably have your directional tires on the wrong sides... Yep. That's it.

Raise the ride height, or go with smaller tires. This thread should be dead by now, it's been up for like a week, and you've gotten all the answers anybody can give you.

ericcastro
03-10-2008, 04:41 PM
I run 15's :) But I dont think you can get away with that look on a S14
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/240sx0002.jpg

racepar1
03-10-2008, 05:20 PM
I think he was referring to people excessively lowering, screwing up roll center and all that jazz. Lowering to a certain extent is beneficial to handling, beyond that you'll be spending a lot of time and money to make it work better when it's so low.

I rubbed in a few spots at the height in my signature with 245/40 on 17x9+5 up front. Not where the OP is talking about though. Seems a bit odd.

You are correct sir. I really don't think wisass would encourage anyone to hammer a structural part of the chasis just to get the car ridiculously dumped.

Argh... just bang it with a hammer.

What's everyone freaking out about banging the fender well out of the way all of a sudden for?

There has been plenty of people who have done it, and none of their strut towers have deformed under breaking or taking a sweeping left or right turn, which puts heavy stress to the entire outside front corner of the car like you guys are saying it will do if you hammered it.

If it was hazardous to do, then nobody would be doing it.

It is NOT just the fenderwell! That is the base of the strut tower, which is a pretty damn structural part of the chasis. If you need to clearence it then do it, just be sure to do something to renforce it when you are done. Really you should either tub the wheel wells or cut out the section where you are rubbing and weld another panel in there with some renforcements.

we should just stop drifting altogether. it ruins perfectly good tires. absolutely retarded.

IDIOTS!!!!!!!!

Drifting is fine, I love drifting. I absolutely despise the typical drifter mentality though. Proper suspension and chasis set-up is important no matter what you do with your car. I know drifting is supposed to be "just for fun", but wouldn't it be more fun with a well set-up car?

wanganwonder
03-10-2008, 09:08 PM
for me, not at all

opposite is true

i feel like it's strange when people put time into a drift car chassis.

people who don't realize that the whole point of drifting is to look cool are lying to themselves, and building/setting up a proper chassis is not going to make a bit of difference to a people like us because at the end of the day we're all back here typing on retarded websites.

on the other hand, tucking 18's and shooting fireballs and smashing body kits is fun as shit, so that's what i do, and i bet i'm having more fun than 90% of the people out there.

ericcastro
03-10-2008, 09:52 PM
i feel like it's strange when people put time into a drift car chassis.

WTF ??? why, because "people" want it to handle well. Want it to be more controlable and predictable?? Ya know, so you dont take it into the wall, or someone else when running tandem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


people who don't realize that the whole point of drifting is to look cool are lying to themselves, and building/setting up a proper chassis is not going to make a bit of difference to a people like us.........
Speak for yourself when talking about drifting please.

wanganwonder
03-10-2008, 10:38 PM
i'm pretty sure i started off that post with "for me"

not sure how much more clearly i can speak for myself

rep all you want, and be sure to let us know when you go pro big guy

ericcastro
03-10-2008, 11:19 PM
i'm pretty sure i started off that post with "for me" and ended with "....going to make a bit of difference to a people like us ...." thats why i say speak for yourself, not the drifting community.

not sure how much more clearly i can speak for myself well I hope better than this,"... going to make a bit of difference to a people like us because at the end...." :confused:

rep all you want, and be sure to let us know when you go pro big guy Well, maybe on the 22nd actually. Depends how I do at the Nopi Qualifier. :fawk2:

ESmorz
03-10-2008, 11:22 PM
and ended with "....going to make a bit of difference to a people like us ...." thats why i say speak for yourself, not the drifting community.

well I hope better than this,"... going to make a bit of difference to a people like us because at the end...." :confused:

Well, maybe on the 22nd actually. Depends how I do at the Nopi Qualifier. :fawk2:

OWWWWNED! :keke:

McRussellPants
03-10-2008, 11:48 PM
You are correct sir. I really don't think wisass would encourage anyone to hammer a structural part of the chasis just to get the car ridiculously dumped.

none of you faggots have ever figured out where your roll center is ever.

Until someone does that and can tell me exactly what height their roll center is at and relation to the CG Everyone needs to get the fuck up off Sport Compact Cars balls and stop talking about roll center.



It is NOT just the fenderwell! That is the base of the strut tower, which is a pretty damn structural part of the chasis. If you need to clearence it then do it, just be sure to do something to renforce it when you are done. Really you should either tub the wheel wells or cut out the section where you are rubbing and weld another panel in there with some renforcements.

yeah lord of the track, one hammer hit to the 240SX makes it totally unusable.

Wait, its a peice of shit mid 90s nissan and the frame flexes when you look at it funny.

Try to write me a novel about sparing no expense for ultimate racecar chassis rigidity with your half cage, asshole. I dare you.

And then go figure out how fender tubs work, and how Tubbed fenders are meaningless for fitting wheels if you own a hammer.

you guys are so fucking lame "hitting your car with a hammer will slow it down by .01 of a second for every hammer hit applied at the inverse proportion of hammer velocity".

god, why don't you guys just go out and get 500whp and hoosiers so your cars will actually be fast instead of taking your frustration out on the world by constantly bitching about "proper chassis setup"

McRussellPants
03-10-2008, 11:56 PM
To the OP, the rail doesn't like to move, you'll shift your car on the lift before you can make it budge, everything else you can get out of the way with enough swings of john henry's hammer.

everyones done it.

it won't break your car.

225/40/18 is way tall for the front of an S13 though.

az_240
03-11-2008, 01:45 AM
I own a s14...

I was over this a while ago. I'm just gonna wait until I get those new rims and straighten my ride out before I worry about anymore more wheel well work

Thanks for the replys

NismoLmgt4
03-11-2008, 01:51 AM
Hammer where it's rubbing, then spray paint it and go drive again. If it still rubs then repeat those steps.



Don't be scared, you know what to do.

http://www.firsteditionproducts.com/sites/817/ecom/items/hammer2.jpg


HAHAHA ur gonna put a hole with that

racepar1
03-11-2008, 02:21 AM
You know what mcrussellpants, I just don't care! Your completely useless, insulting post has been reported. Most likely nothing will happen but if you have nothing useful to contribute then GTFO! I have my opinions and your opinions are useless to me. We will never agree on anything at all and you need to get over it! If you wanna post your opinion that is fine, but if all you wanna do is attack me then fuck off! You have NOTHING at ALL to teach me.

ayuaddict
03-11-2008, 03:12 AM
oh man, this thread is awesome on so many levels.

so the solution to the original problem has been found.

now people are arguing about the solution.

therefore we are all throwing our opinions out, the opinions that dont matter to anybody but ourselves (which makes them not even worth posting apparently).

suspension set up...ahhh...i love this topic. that shit fluctuates like a mother on these old cars, i bet my toe changes every time (albeit not a noticeable amount) i hit a bump. imagine hitting a bump while sliding.

racepar1: i dont think mcrusselpants was necessarily attacking you, he was simply posting up information which he thought would benefit the thread and those who read it. I mean, it would be pretty creepy if he was going around disagreeing with everything you ever post, thats like some elementary school dating kinda shit.

so in conclusion....im gonna quote myself



i think people need to grow out of the mentality that the S13 240sx is some kind of great performance machine made to grip the shit out of corners and dominate races.

its a old nissan that looks pretty cool, slides dope and handles better than the average car.

so lets at least make it look really cool, shall we?

hammer away.

racepar1
03-11-2008, 10:59 AM
^^^ This is they typical drifter mentality that I so strongly dis-like. Just because the car is old and not worth too much money doesn't mean that you shouldn't give a fuck about doing the work that you do to it well. I love my 240! There are very few cars that I would rather have as my track whore, and absolutely none that are affordable. 240's are EXTREMELY capable at the track and definitely worth the time and effort to build them right. I have not half-assed ANYTHING on my car at all and I will never encourage anyone else to half-ass it either. I could honestly give a rat's ass about how "JDM tyte" my car looks, all I care about is how it works. Everybody does not have to agree with me and follow what I say like trained fucking dogs, but they DO have to respect my opinion. I try to respect anyone who gives me respect. I have put in a LOT of work and experience to form my opinions and quite frankly have seen and done more than at least 75% of zilvia.

!Zar!
03-11-2008, 11:56 AM
What would do think if I sang out of tune,
Would you stand up and walk out on me.
Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song,
And I'll try not to sing out of key.
Oh I get by with a little help from my friends,
He gets high with a little help from his friends,
Oh I'm gonna try with a little help from my friends.

What do I do when my love is away.
(Does it worry you to be alone)
How do I feel by the end of the day
(Are you sad because you're on your own)
No, I get by with a little help from my friends,
Mmm I get high with a little help from my friends,
Mmm I'm gonna to try with a little help from my friends

Do you need anybody?
I need somebody to love.
Could it be anybody?
I want somebody to love.

Would you believe in a love at first sight?
Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time.
What do you see when you turn out the light?
I can't tell you, but I know it's mine.
Oh I get by with a little help from my friends,
Mmm I get high with a little help from my friends,
Oh I'm gonna try with a little help from my friends

Do you need anybody?
I need someone to love.
Could it be anybody?
I want somebody to love
Oh...
I get by with a little help from my friends,
I'm gonna try with a little help from my friends
I get high with a little help from my friends
Yes I get by with a little help from my friends,
with a little help from my friends

Dousan_PG
03-11-2008, 11:58 AM
haha this thread rules

i beat the shit out of my car
with hammers and at the track
it its fine
get over yoruself if u really thing u affect it structuarly or safety wise by hammering a lot of stuff.

its fine.
and ive driven a 240sx at the track a lot more then most people have on this forum, i think.

anyways
hammer the bitch and paint it so u wont get rust.

its a 240sx. it costs 500 bucks to find a cherry shell. i know. i bought my current as such! it rules!!

kensreliableb18b
03-11-2008, 12:20 PM
SO IN THE END, HAMMER THE AREA FLAT FOR CLEARANCE IF YOU WANT TO GO LOWER (BECAUSE THAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION RIGHT? HOW TO GO LOWER?) FOR PEOPLE THAT THINK THIS WILL SACRIFICE RIGIDITY, GO BRACE IT OR DONT LOWER IT ANY MORE THAN YOU'VE ALREADY DONE SO

what's the big deal?

!Zar!
03-11-2008, 12:25 PM
1: Hammer shit; seam up top and most of the fenderwell.
2: caster if need be.
3: Fuck.

SoSideways
03-11-2008, 12:46 PM
haha this thread rules

i beat the shit out of my car
with hammers and at the track
it its fine
get over yoruself if u really thing u affect it structuarly or safety wise by hammering a lot of stuff.

its fine.
and ive driven a 240sx at the track a lot more then most people have on this forum, i think.

anyways
hammer the bitch and paint it so u wont get rust.

its a 240sx. it costs 500 bucks to find a cherry shell. i know. i bought my current as such! it rules!!

You forgot the part about how you crashed at the first D1 driver search and was captured on DVD for the entire world to witness at the comfort of their own homes :)

!Zar!
03-11-2008, 01:45 PM
Mmmmmmeeeeemmmmmooooorrrrriiiiieeeeeesssss~

wanganwonder
03-11-2008, 05:28 PM
I run 15's :) But I dont think you can get away with that look on a S14
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/240sx0002.jpg

you aren't getting away with shit

barfasaurus rex

exitspeed
03-11-2008, 05:31 PM
Ok this shit has ran it's course. To the OP, I believe your answer has been answered. Just skimming through it looks like you need Hammer Time more then 1990. Or you need different tires.

GL on your fitment. Make some adjustments and let us know how it turns out via the pic thread. :)