Difference between 180s and 240s?

[Folken]

at the risk of being flamed i'm going to ask anyway, anyone know the difference between the 180sx and the s13 we've got? I've been thinking about it all day at school and now it's starting to bug me, if someone had a link that'll be awesome but anyway all i could think of is; tail lights, VLSD, digital climate control, seat belts, floor mats, that rear quarter glass, areo, wheels and the engines. Thats all i can think of and find offline, is that all there is? It's like a ich I can't scratch.

[!Zar!]

Check the rare parts thread and you can see all the jdm cars options that ours didn't have. Though some 240's had vlsd.

For the most part you got it though.

[tig_tech]

The brake setup is a tad bigger,power windows and power mirrors were only available,two winker lights on each fender, I think the sway bars are a little larger but not by much, and their rear license plate can flip up by removing a bolt. Thats all I know for now. You listed most of them.

[Folken]

oh god i forgot, the brakes are like maxima ones right, and the lights i knew too... haha thanks just something stupid i had to know, Zar! have you seen the rare parts thread?! haha I don't have the will power or the time to look at all that again today

[unicoladron]

oh god i forgot, the brakes are like maxima ones right, and the lights i knew too... haha thanks just something stupid i had to know, Zar! have you seen the rare parts thread?! haha I don't have the will power or the time to look at all that again today

the 180sx quarter windows actually says "180sx".....


and for the obvious.
180sx and 240sx had different engines!!!!

[Bushido]

steering wheel and gauge cluster too.

[300hp owen]

180sx has the seatbelt pads that say 180SX

lol.

[Folken]

180sx has the seatbelt pads that say 180SX

lol.

haha couldn't forget the most important thing

[used240sxparts]

windshield wipers and turn signals are opposite

[!Zar!]

The 180sx is right hand drive.

lolZ

[TheArkitekt]

no auto choker seat belts either

[kuruptR]

doors are lighter, less reienforcement.
front and rear bumper support are one sided.
slight subframe rail differnces.
180sx's have 'oh shit' handles. 240sx has a door pull for the passenger.
fender lights are humped, they do not signal on 180sx. s13 200sx(UK) has fender lights that signal.
240sx has rear quarter lights/reflectors.
89-90 180sx has a chime when you hit a certian speed i think its 140 or 160 or something like that.

[ecuastyle84]

The 180sx is right hand drive.

lolZ

The 180sx is from japan.

lolZ

[LongGrain]

180sx doesnt have full frame rails.

[BoostedCoupe]

the 180sx was mader longer than the 240. I think the 180 went to 97 while the hatchback 240 only made it to 93. Also the 180 had alot more diffrent packages then the 240.

[PhAtXSuMo]

on the tail lights it has 180sx Center Garnish
instead of saying 240sx

[eulalia]

i have a good one

the front bumper support is little big longer then the 240sx (sticks out forward a little more)

the good thing about the 180sx one is you can put front mount inter coolers behind the front support without customizing it

and the 240sx you have to take off the front bumper support, to run a front mount, unless its small inter cooler, or you customize the front bumper support

its not a huge difference in size but its enough to make a difference

[Kn1ves]

The 180sx is from japan.

lolZ

:duh: i forgot my 240sx wasnt built in japan...

[Folken]

wow and I thought I was going to get a you fucking suck response from someone, I think I'll make a list since I'm getting some nice feedback, alot of little things I didn't know like the bumper support and the subframe stuff.... sick car kurupt

[s13poop]

also search for the 180sx brochure

you get to see all the foglight options as well as wheels, stero, aero, interior, car covers, cup holders, parking pole, alarm :blah:

[shade]

Last time I recall.. I thought all the chassis were made in Japan. My firewall plate says made in Japan at plant W.:)

:duh: i forgot my 240sx wasnt built in japan...

[Matej]

180's drift to the right and 240's drift to the left.

[Folken]

shade i think he was being sarcastic, s13poop thats smart thinkin

[HemiCharger]

180's drift to the right and 240's drift to the left.


The only way to get a 240 with a KA to drift is to have wet roads and keep adding power. The KA24det is weak sauce.....

[Phlip]

The only way to get a 240 with a KA to drift is to have wet roads and keep adding power. The KA24det is weak sauce.....

Save for a little sarcasm here and there, all of which was well received, this thread has progressed in a civil manner... I would thank you to shut up and stay out of the discussion if you're looking to reverse that trend.

[bo2o]

ka24det has more balls then most...

back to suject. think about it
180sx 1.8l ca
200sx 2.0L sr
240sx 2.4L ka
300zx 3.0L
if your thinking about where the numbers came from and y they changed it from spot to spot.

[stinky_180]

the floor mats also say 180sx, while the united states counter-part says 240sx.

[Kouki]

ka24det has more balls then most...

back to suject. think about it
180sx 1.8l ca
200sx 2.0L sr
240sx 2.4L ka
300zx 3.0L
if your thinking about where the numbers came from and y they changed it from spot to spot.

Yeah on all that, but the 180SX only had the CA from 89-90, then went to the SR, but they kept the name the same for all the S13 180SX from 89-98

[Kouki]

Also the 180SX had different seats than the US 240SX. You could get the Kouki Type x seats that said 180SX all over them, and even the base models had different seats than the S13 240, and had adjustable headrests and a little better side bolsters.

[!Zar!]

A 180sx will score you more points at Hot Import Nights.

[lflkajfj12123]

A 180sx will pull more sausage.

[ryguy]

180sx had the option of a (not all that great) in-dash cupholder.

[got boost??]

180sx had the option of a (not all that great) in-dash cupholder.


i wish ours had that though lol

[ohsoslo]

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89-90 180sx has a chime when you hit a certian speed i think its 140 or 160 or something like that.

105 km/h speaking of which i need to remove that thing sometime soon

[Folken]

180sx had the option of a (not all that great) in-dash cupholder.
not great you say? haha I think thats the only item on the list that i'll be looking for now that you've brought it's existence to light

[Mlogue84]

I've got one...the axles on the 180 are 5 bolt (vlsd at least) 240 is 6 bolt, three sets of two.. and thinner shaft.

[ryguy]

not great you say? haha I think thats the only item on the list that i'll be looking for now that you've brought it's existence to light

Well if you do get it make sure its the OEM one. The aftermarket ones pull straight out and on our slanted center consoles the drink wont sit level. The OEM cupholder folds down so the drink is level.

[DirtyS14]

ka24det has more balls then most...

back to suject. think about it
180sx 1.8l ca
200sx 2.0L sr
240sx 2.4L ka
300zx 3.0L
if your thinking about where the numbers came from and y they changed it from spot to spot.

In japan/australia the early 180SXs have the 1.8, most of them (later model) have the 2.0l - inconsistency
All euro 200sx S13s have the 1.8l liter turbo - inconsistency

The engine/model thing is only consistent with the 240sx which all had a 2.4L.

[ryguy]

In japan/australia the early 180SXs have the 1.8, most of them (later model) have the 2.0l - inconsistency
All euro 200sx S13s have the 1.8l liter turbo - inconsistency

The engine/model thing is only consistent with the 240sx which all had a 2.4L.

Regardless, the engine is always where the cars got the name. It doesnt matter that the displacement changed. BTW, the 300zx was 3 liters it's whole existence.

[Folken]

yeah all nissans w/ numbers in the name reflect the engine size

[silviaguy240]

Also the 180SX had different seats than the US 240SX. You could get the Kouki Type x seats that said 180SX all over them, and even the base models had different seats than the S13 240, and had adjustable headrests and a little better side bolsters.

SE s13's have seats with adjustable head rests

[stinky_180]

i also believe some if not all japanese 180sx or s13 came with digital climate control, whereas the united states counter-part only came with an analog HVAC.

[blackrms13]

In japan/australia the early 180SXs have the 1.8, most of them (later model) have the 2.0l - inconsistency
All euro 200sx S13s have the 1.8l liter turbo - inconsistency

The engine/model thing is only consistent with the 240sx which all had a 2.4L.

australia got 200sx, not 180sx

but they can import 180sx to australia easy

[kouki_kouki]

a stock 180sx will get you laid. a stock 240sx wont.

[PhAtXSuMo]

a stock 180sx will get you laid. a stock 240sx wont.


thats so true :bash:

[sblack13]

240sx's has the rear side marker lights. 180sx's do not. Much more little stuff, but i'm too lazy to write em all out.

[Slammed180]

doors are lighter, less reienforcement.
front and rear bumper support are one sided.
slight subframe rail differnces.
180sx's have 'oh shit' handles. 240sx has a door pull for the passenger.
fender lights are humped, they do not signal on 180sx. s13 200sx(UK) has fender lights that signal.
240sx has rear quarter lights/reflectors.
89-90 180sx has a chime when you hit a certian speed i think its 140 or 160 or something like that.
All JDM S13's have that chime. It starts at 110km/h. Apparently the highest speed limit it 100km/h in Japan, so at 110 it signifies that you're in "ticket territory"

That's what I was told at least. Someone else may be able to confirm, or deny.

[Turtle]

The frame rails are split into two in the 180sx when the 240sx's are 1 whole piece. =]

[whereda40at]

yeah all nissans w/ numbers in the name reflect the engine size
but what about the letters?????

[sblack13]

All JDM S13's have that chime. It starts at 110km/h. Apparently the highest speed limit it 100km/h in Japan, so at 110 it signifies that you're in "ticket territory"

That's what I was told at least. Someone else may be able to confirm, or deny.

i'm pretty sure it's all 89-90 jdm s13's.

[Dutchmalmiss]

I can add later if I miss anything. I'm forgetting some of the optional accessories, as there are so many to list lol.

Three generations of the 180sx
Zenki
- Pignose front with SMIC vent on left side of bumper (turbo model)
- Half-amber/half clear front turn signals
- Rear side-markers are absent
- "180sx" on rear quarter window
- "180sx" on taillight garnish
- "TWIN CAM INTERCOOLER TURBO" decal under rear center garnish (turbo model)
- Larger front brakes
- Larger sway bars
- Shorter final drive? (someone chime in on this)
- CA18DE or CA18DET
- RHD (duh)
- Mirrored analog climate control w/ auto function (lower trims)
- Optional digital climate control w/ auto function
- "180sx" on floormats (various styles)
- Manual seatbelts
- "Oh shit" bars

Chuki - shares most features of zenki minus facelift
- SR20DE or SR20DET (don't know which years were redtop, and which were blacktop)
- Slightly longer final driver than zenki? (someone chime in on this)
- "SR20DET" emblem on front fenders (turbo model, where european model sidemarker would be located)
- Optional sideskirts

Kouki - shares most features of zenki/chuki except the following
- SR20DE or SR20DET (black top)
- Refreshed front bumper
- Refreshed taillights
- Optional aero package (lip, sideskirts, rear valence, wing)
- Refreshed gauge cluster (red needles, digital odometer)
- Driver side airbag
- S14 style seats with optional "180sx" gradation pattern (don't know if that's for all trims)

[Rocko]

Interesting to note:

of the Three hatches iv seen here in Iraq all have been labeled 200sx.

[kuruptR]

i'm pretty sure it's all 89-90 jdm s13's.

Gonna have to agree, we got a bunch of clusters at work. only the CA18det clusters have the chime.... was unaware of the chime km setting, 105 - 110km/h... that would be damn annoying.

A 180sx will score you more points at Hot Import Nights.
LOL

[Folken]

but what about the letters?????
what like 240"sx" and 350"z"? I'd guess it's because it's the chassis type, I don't know what the X in SX means... maybe nissan just thought a X would sell more cars hahaha I wonder if anyone knows about the X

[JVDSKYRINE]

240sx's has the rear side marker lights. 180sx's do not. Much more little stuff, but i'm too lazy to write em all out.

its funny but to get them legalized in Canada you need to put all the gay shit on that they didn't have...like day time running lights...rear side markers...forget whatelse

the later 180's had the type x package as well....far more baller than stock...oh and the jdm bumper supports were lighter than ours...if my bros car wasn't ripped apart i would look for more differences...oh and power folding mirrors all jdm cars have those

what i was wondering was why do some have black roofs and some do not? i dunno if its a jdm thing maybe someone can answer that cuz i saw a white 240 with white roof and it kinda looks goofy

[Dutchmalmiss]

oh and power folding mirrors all jdm cars have those

Not ALL of them do. There are some base model 180sx's you know.

[sblack13]

don't think i've saw this.

JDM and USDM driveshafts are different.
USDM has the middle rubber piece. JDM does not.

[ryguy]

what like 240"sx" and 350"z"? I'd guess it's because it's the chassis type, I don't know what the X in SX means... maybe nissan just thought a X would sell more cars hahaha I wonder if anyone knows about the X

S and Z is the chassis designation. X means "Luxury" or something to that effect. (iirc)

[bigOdom1]

A 180sx will pull more sausage.



and i bet you could write a book on the subject since you are the authority on the issue apparently

[silviaguy240]

what like 240"sx" and 350"z"? I'd guess it's because it's the chassis type, I don't know what the X in SX means... maybe nissan just thought a X would sell more cars hahaha I wonder if anyone knows about the X

the 350"Z" uses just the Z to refrence back to the old S30 chassis, where they had just the Z ending. Which they chose because it was then end of the alphabet or the ultimate letter, meaning/believing it was the ultimate sports car of its era.

[!Zar!]

Another thing that makes 180's different that 240's is that ladies give head in 180's no matter what.

[ecuastyle84]

Another thing that makes 180's different that 240's is that ladies give head in 180's no matter what.

thank god i own a 240...240 degree head:D

maybe i should get a 300 or a 350?

lol

[ohsoslo]

Gonna have to agree, we got a bunch of clusters at work. only the CA18det clusters have the chime.... was unaware of the chime km setting, 105 - 110km/h... that would be damn annoying.


LOL

you're telling me, lethbridge to edmonton, no cd player no passenger just fucking dinging

[axiomatik]

the difference is 60.