Brett Favre Retires! But now comes back and plays for the Jets

[exitspeed]

It's all over the news here. He's retiring. Damn, I'm so disappointed. He had a few really good years left with a good team behind him.

This totally ruined my day...

[punxva]

wow, after all of the speculation, he finally did it, i've always known him for every year pondering retirement

[exitspeed]

wow, after all of the speculation, he finally did it, i've always known him for every year pondering retirement

It's really only been the last 4 years or so.

[1five10]

At least he left the game after his magical season last year. Personally, I'm not a Packer fan, but I'm a big fan of Brett Favre. If only more players showed their love of the game like he did. Sorry bro....

[Phlip]

This will give way to a long and ugly rebuilding period, watch and see.

[exitspeed]

This will give way to a long and ugly rebuilding period, watch and see.

Yes indeed. Those are some mighty large shoes to fill. Aaron Rogers is eh. He gets hurt easy. :ghey:

If we can get a decent QB we could be alright. Cause we really do have a solid team.

[LongGrain]

damn, now with brett favre gone, what will become of wisconsin?

people will probably forget about us :(

[jrmiller84]

Shit. I'm staying the hell away from my fiance's father.

Guy has a Packers room in the house, painted yellow, green trim around the doors, and complete with astroturf instead of carpet. It's rediculous...

[evasive_one]

Shit. I'm staying the hell away from my fiance's father.

Guy has a Packers room in the house, painted yellow, green trim around the doors, and complete with astroturf instead of carpet. It's rediculous...


Hahaha stay far away.lol

[exitspeed]

We still have http://www.2020hindsight.com/CustomerImages/MillerBrewing.jpg.

Oh wait, they are talking about leaving too. :wtc:

[S14DB]

We still have http://www.2020hindsight.com/CustomerImages/MillerBrewing.jpg.

Oh wait, they are talking about leaving too. :wtc:

Wait you can't go down to state st and get loaded anymore? Least you still have the Marquette Interchange Project.

[RJF]

This will give way to a long and ugly rebuilding period, watch and see.

Welcome to what the Denver Broncos have been going through.

Everyone that tries to play QB here is compared to John Elway. Going to be the same in Green Bay.

[exitspeed]

Wait you can't go down to state st and get loaded anymore? Least you still have the Marquette Interchange Project.

No it's all still there (including the free drunk tour), but they are talking about moving the headquarters to another city since the merger with Coors. They want a neutral location for both companies.

[Rob's S14]

You can't give up on Rodgers yet. I'm no Packer fan, but he's really not that bad. He looked good when he played this year and with a good offense around him, it should take the load off his shoulders. Plus their division is still pretty weak.

I'd rather have Rodgers than Alex Smith.

[slidingsky]

I just heard about this, I am shocked honestly, I thought he was gonna give it one more year but the way he explained it (super bowl win or wasn't worth it) I can understand how he sees it at his age, not that I play pro sports or anything.

[exitspeed]

I just heard about this, I am shocked honestly, I thought he was gonna give it one more year but the way he explained it (super bowl win or wasn't worth it) I can understand how he sees it at his age, not that I play pro sports or anything.

He said he just wants to be a normal guy.

It's gonna suck hearing the non-stop Favre talk all next season.

[jackjack]

NOOOOOOOOOO









We still have http://www.2020hindsight.com/CustomerImages/MillerBrewing.jpg.

Oh wait, they are talking about leaving too. :wtc:



NOOOOOOOOOO


ok i'm done.

[azndoc]

Not a huge fan of his. Still like him though. Oh well. People get old, players retired. That's life.

[kingkilburn]

At least he didn't pull a Jerry Rice and play till he was dropping back in one of these
http://www.pride-scooters.co.uk/images/ranger2.jpg

You gotta love a mix of natural talent and incredible understanding of the game.

[ALTRNTV]

R.I.P. Brett Favre
(Retire In Peace)

I used to be a huge Packer bandwagon fan when I was a kid. :keke:

[corriganjoshua]

definitely a player that deserves everything he has and more...im anxious to see who is going to be trying to fill those shoes

[DOOK]

yeah... I wake up from sleeping after midnight shift to this shit... Brett Favre is probably the player in the NFL I respected the most of any and I've never been a Packer fan. Shit sucks.

[exitspeed]

To not respect this man should be a crime.

Many Records To Celebrate

QB Brett Favre carries WR Greg Jennings off the field following the record-breaking TD pass in the first quarter on Sept. 30, 2007, at the Metrodome in Minneapolis.

Brett Favre Tribute

by Mike Spofford, Packers.com
posted 03/04/2008

With Brett Favre retiring after 16 seasons as the Green Bay Packers' starting quarterback (17 seasons overall), nearly every significant NFL passing record is in his grasp.

Some are sure to stand for a long time. Others are already within the sights of Indianapolis Colts' quarterback Peyton Manning. But all are worth celebrating, to be sure.

Here's a list of those significant league records:

Most TD passes: 442
Favre surpassed Dan Marino's mark of 420 in Week 4 last season at Minnesota, with a 16-yard TD pass to Greg Jennings.

Most passing yards: 61,655
Favre connected with his old buddy Donald Driver to break Marino's mark of 61,361 yards at St. Louis last season in Week 15.

Most passing attempts: 8,758
Favre also broke this one last year in Week 4 at the Metrodome, and finished exactly 400 passes ahead of Marino (8,358).

Most wins by a starting QB: 160
Favre eclipsed John Elway's previous mark of 148 in Week 2 last season against the New York Giants. Including postseason, Favre won 172 games. Manning is tops among active QBs with 105 regular-season wins.

Most consecutive starts, quarterback: 253 (275 including playoffs)
The next-longest streak for a QB belongs to Manning, at 160 games (173 including playoffs) and counting. Among all players and documented streaks, Favre came up 17 games shy of Minnesota's Jim Marshall, who started 270 straight contests.

Most 3,000-yard passing seasons: 16
Marino ranks second on this list with 13.

Most consecutive 3,000-yard passing seasons: 16
Manning broke a second-place tie with Marino last season with his 10th in a row.

Most pass completions: 5,377
Favre surpassed Marino's 4,967 completions two seasons ago, with a pass to Carlyle Holiday against Detroit on Dec. 17, 2006, at Lambeau Field.

Most seasons with 30-plus TD passes: 8
Marino and Manning are both a distant second here with four each.

Most consecutive games with a TD pass, postseason: 18
Favre extended this by two more games last season. Once again, Marino is in second place with 13.

Most NFL MVP awards: 3
Six other players, the only active ones being quarterbacks Manning and Kurt Warner, have won the award twice. Favre was runner-up to Tom Brady in 2007 for a potential fourth MVP.

[ManoNegra]

Not surprised as he'll be leaving on a high note after a hell of a season.

[ALTRNTV]

To me, he had a couple more years of competitive play. He looked to
be in great shape.

[status:one]

very sad... but what a tremendous career he had.

[exitspeed]

To me, he had a couple more years of competitive play. He looked to
be in great shape.

Exactly. At his age he was still enjoying the game more then anyone. I mean look at this dude last season. If half the professional athletes today had 1/4 of his heart...

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8913/cid00b101c8592e8f800a80rf3.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/478/cid00c501c8592e8f849e60ia5.jpg
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http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5575/cid00ca01c8592e8f862500qq4.jpg

[status:one]

That's the reason why he was so liked.... he had so much heart for his team and the game of Football.

[exitspeed]

Brett Favre's press conference is on right now. it's really emotional. I'm glad I'm at work. If I was at work I'd be ballin.

[s13poop]

goddamn mel likes his packers :keke:

when i heard this on the radio i knew you were gonna be devastated

brett farve was my favorite QB growing up i can remember making my mom take me to sears to buy his jersey

i still have some of his OG football cards

he had an awesome carreer and hope he's happy with his decision :sadwavey:

[exitspeed]

Did you hear this BS! :cry:

Dude is totally tarnishing his fuckin legacy.

This isn't the way for him to end his career.

I'm going to go punch someone real hard in the face area.

[stiizy]

wow i thought he'd at least go one or two more seasons..

oh well he always got those wrangler commercials so you can still see him exit:keke::keke:

No it is said he is one of the greats i wish he was leaving with a ring!!

[redZENKI]

So if not a packer, then what team?

[ryguy]

I always respected Brett Favre, and even though I live in the thick of Bears country, I consider him one of my favorite players. He is pulling a Michael Jordan though; he is only going to ruin his legacy with all his BS. To be honest I'm sick and tired of hearing it.

[exitspeed]

I always respected Brett Favre, and even though I live in the thick of Bears country, I consider him one of my favorite players. He is pulling a Michael Jordan though; he is only going to ruin his legacy with all his BS. To be honest I'm sick and tired of hearing it.

Honestly...me too. And this is coming from a tried and true Packer and Brett Favre fanatic.

I wish he would have waited to decide if he wanted to retire.

I knew this shit was going to happen.

All I have to say is his first game in Lambau not as a Packer is going to be ugly and sad.

If you've never been to Lambau, or haven't been a Packer fan your whole life it's hard to understand how serious and personal we take this.

[DALAZ_68]

the only crazy fuck who played after his fathers death....took balls and commitment...honestly never beena packers fan, but shit, every team could use a Favre

[ryguy]

If you've never been to Lambau, or haven't been a Packer fan your whole life it's hard to understand how serious and personal we take this.


I dont know firsthand, but of course I have heard stories. The wait for tickets, people getting mad at newspapers if the packers arent on top when they are tied for the division lead, hell, weddings at Packers tailgate parties. I hope he doesnt go to another team, I hope he calls it quits while he's still on top. I would hate to see all he's built ruined by all his BS. Hell, give him some sort of coaching/staff job. Keep him in the Packers organization, that would be the ideal scenario in my mind for keeping his legend alive.

[exitspeed]

I am lucky enough to be able to go to about 3 games each year. Basically unless you are willing to pay a grip, HAVE season tickets in your family, or on the 35 year waiting list (no seriously it's that long) to get season tickets, you're ain't going.

[Somnambulist]

I love Brett Favre.

I cryed when he retired. I hope he's not serious. I mean granted there are teams that could use him (Ravens, Redskins) but he retired. He was so sure that that's what he wanted to do... In my opinion he should have waited a few months like McNair and Ogden. They both waited til May and June to make an announcement that they would retire.

Honestly...me too. And this is coming from a tried and true Packer and Brett Favre fanatic.

I wish he would have waited to decide if he wanted to retire.

I knew this shit was going to happen.

All I have to say is his first game in Lambau not as a Packer is going to be ugly and sad.

If you've never been to Lambau, or haven't been a Packer fan your whole life it's hard to understand how serious and personal we take this.

Lambeau

Lol. :keke:

[fliprayzin240sx]

So is it official that he wants to come back?

EDIT: Just saw it in MSN. Dood what the fuck? Doesnt he realize the repercussions if he does come back? I always had great respect for Favre but this BS is just showing how selfish he is. If he does come back, he aint no better than TO in my book. Holding the team hostage for your personal need is utter BS, specially a team that has stuck with you thru thick and thin...If he comes back, all he's gonna be is a full time distraction. Do you really think Rogers can play 100% when he knows Favre is over his shoulder? Thats a whole lot of pressure for a new QB. If he gets traded, his legacy is over. Every Packer fans are gonna turn on him in a second.

[ryguy]

So is it official that he wants to come back?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521

He asked the Packers for an unconditional release from his contract. Even though he retired, he is still under contract with Green Bay for a few years.

[norbac]

sux for the packers, because it seems like they don't want him back, thats tuff to win over cheese heads, and especially if he goes to a division rival, can't wait for that game against aaron rodgers, wow

[azndoc]

hahaaahahahahaaha

Fuck you right in the ass cheeseheads






Okay that was rude.

I hated it when hakeem owlajuwon didn't retire in houston.

[Gnnr]

This would be akin to Jordan playing with the Wizards if he goes to another team. Anyways, hasn't he always been like this? For the past few seasons he's been on and off about retiring. And its not the Packers don't want him back, its that they're sort of letting him know its time to let go. He said himself he feels he can still play but he doesn't have the energy to go through the things necessary to be ready on game days (reviewing film, practice, etc.). So how does he expect to go to a completely different team, adjust to their system and do the things he would have done at GB (review film, go to practice, etc.).

[worangejuice]

Maybe he'll go back to the Falcons.???????hehe.
Really he HAS to go back to the Pack.
http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cardboard-icon-brett-favre.jpg

[slidingsky]

Bringing it back for all the good reasons.... Where's Mel?

Edit: Brett Favre's plane just touched down....

He'll be in training camp on Tuesday.

[Dirty Habit]

shit is played out. dude choaks. end legacy.

[S14DB]

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) - A timeline of communication between the Green Bay Packers and Brett Favre, regarding Favre's decision to retire in March and request to be released this week, based on an Associated Press interview with Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy and general manager Ted Thompson on Saturday:

-Week of Jan. 22: After the Packers' overtime loss to the New York Giants in the NFC Championship game, McCarthy tells Favre they hope to take a similar approach to his retirement decision as in the past, allowing Favre plenty of time to make his decision. They agree to talk regularly.

-Feb. 22: Thompson calls Favre after getting word that Favre was upset Thompson hadn't called him in a while. According to Thompson, Favre said, "Well, I don't know where that's coming from. That doesn't come from me. I'm fine with it." Thompson said he reassures Favre: "You know that Mike and me, we still think you can play, you're still our guy."

-Feb. 29: The beginning of free agency, the Packers' original target date for Favre's decision. "He told me that day, he said, 'Hey, if I needed to make a decision today, I would retire,"' McCarthy said. "I said, 'Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's not that important. Ted and I have talked about it over and over again as far as, you're the priority and we didn't need to stick to that date. So you need more time? Sure. How much time do you need? He said, 'I'll tell you what. (Wife) Deanna and I are going to sit down this weekend, why don't you call me Monday?"'

-March 3: McCarthy travels to Austin, Texas, for his daughter's high school basketball banquet. At this point, McCarthy isn't worried.

"We thought for sure he was going to come back," McCarthy said. "I thought he was working, just going through the process, and he needed more time."

But Favre surprises McCarthy by calling and saying he "can not commit 100 percent" to football and is going to retire. McCarthy says he offers Favre the chance to return with a guarantee that he wouldn't have to take as many repetitions in practice.

No deal. McCarthy travels back to Green Bay and the Packers announce Favre's retirement decision March 4.

-March 6: Favre's tearful press conference. McCarthy says he is surprised at how honest Favre is about the reasons behind his decision - particularly about not being able to commit 100 percent to football.

-Week of March 24: During the coaching staff's spring break, Packers offensive line coach James Campen, whose in-laws live in New Orleans, goes up to visit Favre in Mississippi on March 26. On the 27th, Campen tells McCarthy Favre is having second thoughts and McCarthy should call him.

He does, and learns that Favre indeed is having second thoughts. McCarthy and Thompson decide they will welcome him back. They secure a private jet from a Packers board member to visit Favre in person and seal the deal.

-March 29: Favre calls McCarthy to deliver a message: Thanks, but no thanks.

"He felt at this point we had reached a point of closure," McCarthy said. "Those were his words. And he was going to stick with his initial decision."

-McCarthy talks to Favre again the week of April 7 and April 14 and on April 24. On the 24th, McCarthy explains the team's decision to place Favre on the reserve/retired list.

-May 6: With the NFL draft out of the way, Thompson visits Favre in Mississippi and has lunch on his back porch. Thompson says they have a "good conversation," but don't spend too much time talking about the idea that he might be having second thoughts.

"We didn't talk specifically about it," Thompson says. "But he mentioned several things where there was always indecisiveness, or he was wondering if he made the right decision. I think that's normal."

-June 7: During a staff retreat in Kohler, Wis., Campen says he's worried about Favre. McCarthy tells Campen to go to Mississippi - not as an official team intermediary, but as Favre's friend.

-June 16-20: Acting on Campen's advice, McCarthy calls Favre. They play phone tag for a few days but eventually connect. "You and Ted need to have a plan if I do come back," Favre says, according to McCarthy. "Either give me my helmet or give me my release."

At that point, McCarthy asks Favre if he was 100 percent committed to a return. "He said, 'No, no, I'm not saying I'm there yet."'

-June 20-early July: Favre and Campen talk regularly, and Favre's agent, Bus Cook, begins passing messages to the team through Campen. "James was put in a tough spot, and I think he's totally been wrongly illustrated in this," McCarthy said.

-July 4: Favre sends a text message to Thompson, who responds by saying he is traveling and asks if they can talk Monday. Cook begins texting Thompson, and a conference call is arranged.

-July 8: A conference call is scheduled involving Favre, Cook, Thompson, McCarthy and Russ Ball, the team's VP of football administration/player finance, to discuss Favre's request for a release. McCarthy asks Favre if he is 100 percent committed to football - and for the first time throughout the entire offseason, Favre says yes.

"We're trying to be as respectful to him and his legacy as possible, but that's an important piece of the puzzle," McCarthy said. "As an organization, Ted and I, that's the first time any communication to us was, he was committed to play."

The Packers then receive a letter from Cook requesting his release.

"That brings us to where we are, which is a very difficult situation," Thompson said.

-July 27: Packer players report to camp, without Favre, as the quarterback agrees to let Thompson try to work out a trade solution in hopes of keeping Favre from coming to Green Bay. However, only two teams reportedly made an inquiry for the future Hall of Famer — the Jets and Buccaneers, neither teams on Favre's short list of alternative targets.

-July 29: Favre finally faxes his official request for reinstatement to the league. With NFL commissioner Roger Goodell now heavily involved in negotiations between Favre and the Packers, Goodell allows the organization and its former player more time to resolve the situation before ruling on Favre's reinstatement.

-July 30: Reports leak that Packers president Mark Murphy flies to Mississippi to extend a lucrative olive branch: $20 million over 10 years for Favre to stay retired and remain with the Packer organization in a marketing capacity. With Favre considering the offer, Goodell again publicly says he will wait to levy a decision.

FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Packers detail timeline of Favre's decisions (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8339726/Packers-detail-timeline-of-Favre%27s-decisions)

[k's_silvia2.0]

*Edit*

I love the packers!

[exitspeed]

They're saying tonight he IS coming back to the Packers. Supposedly he's going to have to fight for the #1 position against Arron Rogers. Fine with me.

Through all this I've actually started siding with the Packers. I love Favre but I'm a Packers fan first and foremost and I want to see whats best for the team. If Favre came out and said, I will sign a contract that i will PLAY for another 2 years, no wish washy BS, then I'd back him. But I've other then RIGHT NOW, I haven't heard about him wanting to make a commitment like that.

[k's_silvia2.0]

^Awww Mel sorry I take it back :bite:

haha

[exitspeed]

^Awww Mel sorry I take it back :bite:

haha

I don't expect anyone outside of WI to truly understand how important Packers football is to most people in WI.

Seriously, the Packers had a SCRIMMAGE yesterday at Lambeau. IT WAS SOLD OUT. Some teams don't have regular season games that are sold out. Many people here in WI don't ever even get to go to a game at Lambeau. The waiting list for season tickets right now on average is 30 years. I'm not joking even a little tiny bit. So you either have to know someone who will sell you some of their season tickets or you pay an arm and a leg for tickets through some ticket place.

I happen to be one of the lucky people that know people that have tickets. He's very old and doesn't go so his kids (who are in their 50's) sell us tickets to THREE games a year. I've been going to three games a year now for the last 5-6 years.

The first time I walked up to Lambeau field was an amazing experience. I almost shed a tear and I had goose bumps.

Yes...the Packets are actually that serious ti WI.

[ZX88]

i cant believe they let him back on the team.

[exitspeed]

i cant believe they let him back on the team.

Me either honestly. I was all ready to move on with Rodgers.

But he has to fight for the #1 spot. So that should be interesting.

[stiizy]

^^ Exit

Whats up with ya boy tell him to make up his freakin mind!!

[exitspeed]

^^ Exit

Whats up with ya boy tell him to make up his freakin mind!!

Dude, if it was up to me, I'da told his punk ass months and months ago. Trust me, it's been very frustrating.

You guys think you hear about it on your news? We get "NEWS FLASH" updates in the middle of a show for any little update in the Favre story. Not that I mind though. I want to know what's going on. I just wish it would not have been dragged on as long as it has.

[stiizy]

Thats what i'm saying...

Are you playing or not??

He should've just stayed home and gave it a rest....

But F it we'll see how it goes

[slidingsky]

Dude, if it was up to me, I'da told his punk ass months and months ago. Trust me, it's been very frustrating.

You guys think you hear about it on your news? We get "NEWS FLASH" updates in the middle of a show for any little update in the Favre story. Not that I mind though. I want to know what's going on. I just wish it would not have been dragged on as long as it has.


Haha, I could only imagine.
I totally understand where the Packers front office is coming from and I can also see Brett's side of the deal as well. It wasn't the best way to handle the ordeal coming from both sides but hopefully it will pan out for the best.

[exitspeed]

Here's a new one!

Rumor from a girl in accounting, "Brett Favre takes over as GM. Ted Thompson is out."

lol.

I can't wait til they just tell us WTF is going on!

[stiizy]

Wow this guy is all over the place huh?

[Dirty Habit]

Todays first practice day correct??

[exitspeed]

Todays first practice day correct??

Yep. Latest news is they had a meeting last night, and were supposed to come to a conclusion. They did not, and the meeting was supposed to continue this morning. We haven't heard anything, but McCarthy is sticking with the fact that Rodgers is starting and Favre will be the back up. Supposedly. If that's the case, Favre WILL go elsewhere.

This is all so incredibly irritating.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Fucking cry baby...i lost all respect for him after this. Fuck him, hes in the same pedestal as TO, ocho-cinco, dont call me pacman, and all them self serving ass hats...

All he cares about is himself...he dont give a fuck about the organization that has stuck with im how many years? Lets not even talk about Aaron Rogers, im sure the fans are 50/50 on this considering some wants him back, some dont cuz he's nothing but a fucking distraction. He wants to play, tell him to tell Aaron Rogers himself that he's gonna start.

[Dirty Habit]

Im going to agree with the above rant. Im tired of hearing about this. Greenbay has got to be way tired of this shit. If I was a teammate I would be real tired of it.

[exitspeed]

Fucking cry baby...i lost all respect for him after this. Fuck him, hes in the same pedestal as TO, ocho-cinco, dont call me pacman, and all them self serving ass hats...

All he cares about is himself...he dont give a fuck about the organization that has stuck with im how many years? Lets not even talk about Aaron Rogers, im sure the fans are 50/50 on this considering some wants him back, some dont cuz he's nothing but a fucking distraction. He wants to play, tell him to tell Aaron Rogers himself that he's gonna start.

I agree with you too.

Although recent polls are showing people siding with Favre starting. It was like 63% for Favre, 37% Rodgers.

What really sucks, is that we are supposed to be fucking practicing right now. Not dealing with baby momma drama BS. Sure the rest of the team is still practicing, but it's an obvious distraction.

I'm expecting this year to be very disappointing. I'm going to a pre-season game on the 28th.

Then I'm going to a regular season game in Nov.

[exitspeed]

As of like 10 min ago:

Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre went into a meeting Tuesday morning acknowledging that he was at a "stalemate" with the team and believed the "best thing for this team is for us to part ways."

Consequently, Favre is unlikely to take the field for practice Tuesday afternoon, pending his second meeting with coach Mike McCarthy.

"We're at a stalemate," Favre said. "Mike and I both agreed last night that me being out there is a distraction and will continue to be a distraction. We all know the reason I'm here is because the commissioner [Roger Goodell] reinstated me so we have a lot of things to figure out. It's simple and complicated, both at the same time."

Favre said the team once again rejected his request to talk to teams about a trade within the NFC North, preferably to the Minnesota Vikings or possibly the Chicago Bears.

Favre clarified reports that he and the Packers have backpedaled on the premise that there would be an open competition with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job.

"Mike told me, hey, we're a better team with you on it but wanted to know if I have a problem with an open competition," Favre said. "I don't have a problem with competing -- you know that, but Aaron should be the starter right now because he's been out here all this time. This is more than about an open competition and I can do that, absolutely, but this is going to be mass confusion and that's not good for this team.

"I'll practice my butt off, if it comes to that, and I think we all know what the end result will be, but this probably isn't going to work. And I truly understand that if I was in Mike's shoes, I'd see it basically the same way he sees it, I'm sure. And I think if he was in my shoes, he'd see it my way. I think we both agree on that.

"They want to know if I'm committed but I want to know if they're 100 percent committed. The problem is that there's been a lot of damage done and I can't forget it. Stuff has been said, stories planted, that just aren't true. Can I get over all that? I doubt it."

Favre, who officially returned from retirement Sunday, met with McCarthy for 5½ hours on Monday night without reaching a resolution. The meeting went long enough that McCarthy had to postpone a planned briefing with the media.

Favre announced his retirement on March 6, and the Packers moved ahead with Rodgers, Favre's former understudy, as the team's new starting quarterback. But Favre, still under contract with the Packers, then followed through on hints that he was interested in a return to the NFL.

The Packers have attempted to work out a trade outside the NFC North, with the New York Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers reported as likely suitors, but to no avail. And last week, team president Mark Murphy flew to Mississippi to discuss a marketing deal for Favre worth a reported $25 million. Favre has not accepted that deal, either.

Asked what stories have been "planted," Favre alluded to the reports that said he waffled on un-retiring in late March or early April. He said that's "just not the way it went down, at all."

He also expressed anger with the stories that alleged he had a team-issued cell phone that showed the Vikings were tampering with him.

"Again, that was bull on both parts," he said.

"Then," Favre said, "they tried to buy me off to stay retired."

He added, "So they can say they welcome me back but, come on, the way they've treated me tells you the truth. They don't want me back, so let's move on. I don't know where it's headed. We'll see."

Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN.

[stiizy]

WTF is he doing!!!!

Staying Home or Playing Damn Exit if your state didnt produce descent beer and cheese i would have to nuke it!!!

[exitspeed]

WTF is he doing!!!!

Staying Home or Playing Damn Exit if your state didnt produce descent beer and cheese i would have to nuke it!!!

It's not our fault. Trust me, there is no one here that wants to see this go down like it is.

[stiizy]

mel go fucking Jason stab him in the Throat and toss the Machete and don't forget the mask

you will be rewarded hahaha

[WERDdabuilder]

the guys a fuckin d-bag. drama fuckin queen.

[ESmorz]

*SNIP* Borderline NWS. Gross as hell though.

[808_s13]

idk. it was totally frustrating cause all youl hear
is "favre this, favre that" same 'ol shit.

c'mon

-makua[ace]

[exitspeed]

So it sounds like we're back to trading him again. McCarthy is set on going with Rodgers for the starter this year and Favre obviously wants to play, and START. Sounds like he's going to go to the Bucc's.

I'm OK with it now.

[TheWolf]

why not be creative and swap QB's like every 2 plays like UF does ocassionally...

[S14DB]

Unusual way to get to disneyworld...

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

I have a very reliable source inside the San Diego org who has a huge tie in the Packer org. Favre is going to be announced as a Buccaneer either today or very soon. Operantly the deal is done between the Pack and Buccs and the only thing that could ruin the deal is Favre himself. He has some stipulation in his contract that he's using to his advantage.
The truth behind the whole drama is Thompson is defending and sticking up for his first draft pick. Plus, Favre was informed that he had no shot due to the the slight offensive gamplan change to suit Rodgers. Favre was very good friends with Ron Wolf, the previous GM. Thompson got the job, and Brett got good info that Thompson stabbed Wolf in the back to get the job, then in an ultimate fuck you to Brett, Thompson drafts Rodgers to replace Favre.
Let the drama continue.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

ok. deals done. Brett refuses to play for the Buccs because, and I quote Favre "it's too hot in Tampa" and is now officially a Jet. The Jets will get a conditional 3rd that could turn to a 1st rounder.

[Z33dori]

ok. deals done. Brett refuses to play for the Buccs because, and I quote Favre "it's too hot in Tampa" and is now officially a Jet. The Jets will get a conditional 3rd that could turn to a 1st rounder.

what a fucking puss bag

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

I'm not bias because I'm neither a Pack, Jet, or Bucc fan. I'm a Charger fan but I know all the inside info and, although Favre made some wrong moves, Ted Thompson is a dick. I would say Thompson was to blame for about 80% of what happened. I mean, he injected a poison pill to the "QB competition" and really made it pro Rodgers. There was so much that happened that NO ONE knows about it's unreal. I hate to see Thompson treat a legend like that.

[exitspeed]

what a fucking puss bag

Yea, he sure is. He's such a puss he's never missed a game. Good call.

[98s14inaz]

Im going to agree with the above rant. Im tired of hearing about this. Greenbay has got to be way tired of this shit. If I was a teammate I would be real tired of it.

Exactly. I'm sick of hearing about this shit. If you retire it should be mandatory that you stay retired. These athletes are self serving whining bitches only concerned about money. If I was a teammate i'd be pissed and want him gone.

[Gnnr]

Did you see the T-mobile commercial thats been running for like a month+ now?

Say goodbye to goodbye: T-Mobile at Home unlimited nationwide calling | T-Mobile at Home (http://www.t-mobileathome.com/buy-home-phone.aspx?WT.mc_t=TMO&WT.mc_n=TatHome _takeover#/at-home-tv-commercials.aspx)

Its the one titled "Moving", pretty funny considering the circumstances. :keke:

[slidingsky]

what a fucking puss bag

That's not the real reason he didn't want to go there but either way your ignorant for thinking so.

[slidingsky]

Here's a very skim look on how Brett was treated....

ESPN - Packers make their choice with Favre; now they can wallow in it - Columnist (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3523173&sportCat=nfl)

Packers make their choice with Favre; now they can wallow in it

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/columnists/Wojciechowski_Gene_55.jpg (http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://search.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=gene_wojciechowski&name=SEARCH_m_archive&srvc=sz) By Gene Wojciechowski
ESPN.com

From green and gold to green and white. From, "Go, Pack, Go" to "J-E-T-S." From the NFL's smallest market to the league's largest.
Brett Favre (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=1025)'s life did a 180 late Wednesday night, and it happened because Green Bay Packers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb) general manager Ted Thompson didn't trust Favre, and Favre didn't trust Thompson.
Drag a razor across this controversy's beard and that's what you'll find under the stubble -- distrust, too much scar tissue and the simple yet mind-boggling fact that Packers management thinks Favre isn't good enough to win. If it thought otherwise, Favre wouldn't be the quarterback of the New York Jets today.
Anyway, so much for the Packers wanting to protect Favre's "legacy." Remember that bit of PR fiction? The benevolent, caring Packers would be there to safeguard all things Brett -- that's what they said often in recent weeks. But the protection broke down when Favre decided to unretire and return to Green Bay.
Favre is a Jet because Thompson didn't want him to be a Packer. Or a Minnesota Viking. And who can forget that heartfelt "crossing the Rubicon" statement by Packers team president Mark Murphy when Favre was reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. Any icier and you could have played hockey on it.
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0806/nfl_a_favre_300.jpg AP Photo/Mike Roemer
Brett Favre as he left Green Bay...ultimately for the last time as a Packer.


For all those Favre critics who insist he's a drama queen, remember that he could have stayed in Green Bay, practiced, competed in an open competition with Aaron Rodgers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7200) and dared Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy to keep him on the bench. But he didn't. He left after several days because he has more respect for the Packers than the Packers have for him.
Packers management thought Favre wouldn't push for reinstatement and report to camp, but he did. It thought he would take its $25 million of get-lost money, but he didn't. It thought it could break his will by refusing to release him or trade him to the Vikings, but it couldn't.
And nice job on accusing the Vikings of tampering (the Vikes were cleared of any wrongdoing). Plus, wasn't it interesting that someone leaked a story that Favre allegedly called the Vikings on a Packers-issued cell phone (also untrue).
If this were a divorce, then Favre would be the one getting the alimony. The Packers were so eager to ditch the NFL's all-time leader in passing yards, touchdowns and victories by a QB that they reduced the bidding war to two teams (the Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers). And they settled for a conditional fourth-round pick, which will bump up to a third-rounder if Favre takes 50 percent of the snaps (duh), and a second-rounder if he takes 70 percent of the snaps and the Jets reach the playoffs.
Instead of Favre -- who earlier last season helped lead the Packers to the NFC Championship Game and finished second in the league's MVP voting -- Thompson would rather have three quarterbacks on his roster with a combined zero NFL starts. He'd rather have Rodgers than the most durable quarterback in the history of the game.
Brett Favre 2008 Timeline

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0803/nfl_a_favre_65.jpg
The Brett Favre saga in Green Bay might be nearing a conclusion after the unretired quarterback said he and the team might be better off without each other. A look at how the story has unfolded:
Aug. 6: Traded to New York Jets for conditional draft pick.
Aug. 5: Left practice facility in the afternoon ... did not practice with the team ... met with Packers officials to discuss trade options ... tells ESPN's Chris Mortensen "the best thing for this team is for us to part ways" ... considers talking to the Buccaneers about a possible trade.
Aug. 4: Favre reports to training camp and is added to active roster after passing physical
Aug. 3: NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates Favre
July 31: Favre offered $25 million to not report to camp
July 30: Meets with Packers president Mark Murphy in Mississippi
July 29: Faxes reinstatement request to NFL
July 25: Favre tells Packers he plans to report to training camp
July 19: Returns to Lambeau Field to attend Packers Hall of Fame ceremony
July 16: Packers file tampering charges with NFL against Vikings
July 11: Packers receive letter from Favre formally requesting release
July 8: Favre asks for release with understanding he won't be starter
July 6: Sends text message to Packers GM Ted Thompson
July 2: Favre says reports of return were "all rumor"
June 20: Favre tells coach Mike McCarthy he may want to play again
April 9: Says he might consider comeback if opportunity was presented
April 4: Agent reportedly contacts teams to gauge trade interest
April 3: Denies rumors of a comeback
March 6: Favre conducts retirement news conference
Jan. 20: Packers lose NFC Championship Game to the Giants in OT
-- Compiled by ESPN Research

Why? It isn't just because Favre wanted to unretire. It can't be. It has to be something as fundamental as Thompson (and maybe McCarthy, too) having lost faith in Favre's ability to win games. If so, Thompson miscalculated yet again.
Thompson's future now depends on Rodgers. If Rodgers gets hurt, the Packers are done. If Rodgers can't handle the pressure, the Packers are done. And Thompson with them.
Of the two finalists for Favre, the Jets actually made the most sense. The Buccaneers already have Jeff Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4924), who made the Pro Bowl last season. Meanwhile, the Jets are underwhelmed by Chad Pennington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5047), who is minutes away from getting released because of his $6 million salary, and Kellen Clemens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7798).
The Jets spent $140 million during the offseason on players. They upgraded their offensive line by signing guard Alan Faneca (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4288), who will fit in nicely on the left side with tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7753). They upgraded their defensive line (nose tackle Kris Jenkins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5491)). They have Thomas Jones (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5036) at running back (1,119 yards last season). They have Laveranues Coles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5107) at wide receiver.
Yes, they're in the same division as the New England Patriots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe). But they're also in the same division as the Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) and the Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf). They play Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis and San Francisco. A nine-win season, maybe a game better, isn't inconceivable. At least, not any more inconceivable than Favre in New York.
It will be strange to see Favre in a Jets helmet. It would have been strange to see him in any helmet that didn't have the game's best logo -- that classic G -- on the side.
On the Jets' Web site, you can already purchase a Favre replica jersey for $80. There's also a tortured headline that reads, "DO QB-LIEVE IT? BRETT FAVRE IS A JET."
No, I don't believe it. Not because he's a Jet, but because Thompson just traded the best quarterback on his roster.
"It is with some sadness that we make this announcement, but also with the desire for certainty that will allow us to move the team and organization forward in the most positive way possible," Murphy and Thompson said in a joint statement.
Sadness? Thompson never wanted Favre back to begin with. Plus, the Packers got a draft pick out of it, they saved $25 million in bribe money, and they're still selling Favre jerseys for $179.95. So enough already with the fake sadness thing.
But if I'm a Packers fan, I fly my team flag at half-mast today. Or better yet, raise a Jets flag.
They're only $20 at Jets Shop.
Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at [email protected]

[exitspeed]

It wasn't a good move by the Pack, but that story seems very one sided.

[S14DB]

Wojciechowski is always that way. fucking cubbie.

[slidingsky]

HAH yeah he can be at times, but it's not as bad as a Micheal Moore movie.

[Mtndrifter14]

Just retire Brett and leave with some dignity.

[redZENKI]

Hate to say it, but he's gonna be hit with the Madden curse this year.

[slidingsky]

Psh, him not being in Green Bay is the Curse.

[SimpleS14]

Hate to say it, but he's gonna be hit with the Madden curse this year.


what do you mean? Is it because he's on the cover of Madden '09 ?




Either way.....he's going to mess up his image like Jordan did with the Wizards.

[Gnnr]

Yep

Madden NFL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden_NFL#Madden_Curse)

Also you may want to see this, I found it pretty funny

ESPN Page 2 - Snibbe: History of the cover curse (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=snibbe/070419)

[airsoft]

1. Packers keep Favre - retires next year uh oh bye bye 4 year benched QB. (Didn't they just draft soem dood from Stanford?)

2. Packers play Rogers go 0-2 and crowd will shit all over their benches in disgust.

3. Sucks but it is what it is. Lets watch and see how it unfolds.

Besides, hes not the only NFL great to have done similar things to this.

Did he shit over his "legacy". Nah, this is his 4th time although this time he actually retired, but hes ALWAYS been wishy washy about this.

I do WISH he went to Minnesota instead though and slap Packers in the ass cheeks a few times.
I say who cares lets watch some FOOSBALL

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

1. Packers keep Favre - retires next year uh oh bye bye 4 year benched QB. (Didn't they just draft soem dood from Stanford?)

2. Packers play Rogers go 0-2 and crowd will shit all over their benches in disgust.

3. Sucks but it is what it is. Lets watch and see how it unfolds.

Besides, hes not the only NFL great to have done similar things to this.

Did he shit over his "legacy". Nah, this is his 4th time although this time he actually retired, but hes ALWAYS been wishy washy about this.

I do WISH he went to Minnesota instead though and slap Packers in the ass cheeks a few times.
I say who cares lets watch some FOOSBALL
Rodgers is shitty anyways. By the time that Rodgers has any type of productivity, Brohm will be ready to step in and start. BTW, Rodgers is under contract into 2010 and there's also the possibility for franchise tag. It's not that the Packers were afraid of Rodgers leaving, it's that Ted Thompson wanted Rodgers over Favre because Rodgers was Thompsons' first pick as a gm.

Word around the inside of the NFL is that Favre got fucked.

[S13_Nightkid]

thank god. Fuckin Chad Pennington needed to be replaced for good.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

thank god. Fuckin Chad Pennington needed to be replaced for good.

he'll probably be released.

[S14DB]

he'll probably be released.

Yeah, they paying him to much for the crappy job he has been doing.

[Flicktitty]

I'm so sick of this Farve shit.....
Being from Wisconsin this is all the news is about anymore!

[worangejuice]

http://www.jetsshop.com/jets/images/JetsFAVREBanner08_2a.jpg
http://www.jetsshop.com/jets/images/D/02-128l.jpg
goodness..........

[gvr4597]

I am from WI and this is one thing that just....just...pisses me off more than anything. I can't believe...I still watch ESPN to make sure I am not dreaming, and this is just a damn joke. Dumbass Packers...yes I said it...dumbass Packers. :smash:

[ryguy]

Dumbass Packers...yes I said it...dumbass Packers. :smash:

Woah there homeslice, not so fast. I think you should be saying dumbass Brett Favre. He has been a selfish piece of shit throughout this whole ordeal. Green Bay comitted to Rodgers, and Favre knew this. He retired, the Packers moved on, and that should have been that. He tried to fuck with the Packers, he fucked up his own legacy (ala Michael Jordan), and he turned himself into a joke. I am a Bears fan, but Favre was one of my personal heroes. Not anymore.

[jackjack]

^right on ....... right on

[exitspeed]

See. I told you people were serious about this stuff up here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/jets.jpg

[stiizy]

^^ lol hahaha

Wow he aint God but damn

[redZENKI]

That's crazy! lol!