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na12uto
03-02-2008, 10:06 PM
I have heard that people have S13 Chassis with S14 Ka24de in there cars but have yet to see any write ups before and I have failed to find any right ups. Since my KA is running weak i decided to make a trip out to LA to buy a motor. The one i bought was a KA for a S14, HEHE he even threw in a couple wheels, but regardless I was wondering if there is any certain things that are needed to know in order to install a s14 KA into a S13 Chassis, Like the headers to exhaust, am I going to need to change that. Another question, Am i going to have to buy parts now for a S14 or are the parts for a s14 KA just to move around Chassis/Body.(is there differances in the dimensions) From what ive heard though it should be a straight drop in. I also plan on getting new motor mounts, any recommendations, something for a reasonable price? BTW the next time i come to Los Angeles i was wondering what is there to do, apparently im in downtown LA, I didnt drive this time. And it really was a bore except buying the motor a set of wheels a free set....
T00ch
03-02-2008, 11:02 PM
search for a user named Burnsauto lol
he put an s14 into my sis's s13
i think you need to keep the s13 intake mani
and what ever those lines are behind the passenger side strut tower
those need to be changed or something
na12uto
03-02-2008, 11:10 PM
Thanks, will do, and props on siblings rocking 240s. if any one else has anything to contribute thatll help,,, if i get lost im throwing vtec in it lol just jk
T00ch
03-02-2008, 11:15 PM
hahah yeah. the second she got a 240 i knew what i wanted to own one day. and sure enough i got it.
but other than those lines and the intake mani you should be safe
slow40sx
03-02-2008, 11:18 PM
i swapped a 97 KA into my 89 hatch its no big deal its all the same shit drops right in u just gotta get an s13 distributor, s13 maf, s13 ECU, and u gotta change the temp censor but thats it took me and some friends a weekend to do the swap, if u have any questions just PM me i'll be more than happy to help ya out
lostmenoggin
03-02-2008, 11:33 PM
it can be done without having to change all that stuff. i just bought an s13 that had a blown s14 motor in it. it had the s14 wiring harness. i pulled the motor and trans and the wiring harness and ecu to get ready for my CA swap. from what i can tell there was some splicing into the body harness similiar to an SR or CA swap and the s14 harness had some splicing going on. no write up, sorry, but it can be done..
Jung918
03-03-2008, 12:31 AM
^ I don't see how you wont have to change out the distributor. The s14 is internal while the s13 in external.
Plus the manifold are different. The exhaust manifold are not interchangeable without the downpipe.
There are slight differences between the s13 and s14 ka motors. Even between the s14 obd1 and s14 obd2.
Just put on your s13 intake and exhaust manifold and also your dizzy. Everything else should be cake.
You can use any motor mount as they are al the same. Even for the sr and ka. Most people just use the Nismos.
come back to LA when you turn 21. then drink until your liver fails.
xxslidewaysxx
03-03-2008, 12:43 AM
put the s13 intake manifold and exhaust manifold on the s14 motor and keep your harness off of your s13. thats basically it
xxslidewaysxx
03-03-2008, 12:46 AM
oh yea and change out the distributor as well, sorry forgot to put that in. you need the s13 distrutor to plug into the s13 harness
punxva
03-03-2008, 06:47 AM
or be hardcore and run the s14 exhaust manifold, with a 3in sr downpipe, and call it a day... you have to block of the egr, or make it fit, but other than that your golden
ViZioN
03-03-2008, 08:11 AM
I did it in my car. The things that need to be changed are the MAF, the dizzy, the coolant lines (if you stay s14 intake manifold). The best thing to do it use the s14 top half with s13 bottom half as there is little plates in the s13 upper half of the manifold so the s14 one flows better.
Worth it.
98s14inaz
03-03-2008, 09:56 AM
I've done both. The blocks (s13/s14) are essentially the same. The differences start with the heads, valve covers, front covers, and intake manifolds.
What ever year car you swap the ka into make sure you use the intake mani from that car with the appropriate sensors. You can use any head as long as you use the front covers and valve covers from that head.
I had an s13 ka block and head in my s14 and used the s14 intake manifold, s13 valve covers, and s13 front covers.
I hope that helps clear any confusion.
na12uto
03-03-2008, 08:38 PM
^ I don't see how you wont have to change out the distributor. The s14 is internal while the s13 in external.
Plus the manifold are different. The exhaust manifold are not interchangeable without the downpipe.
There are slight differences between the s13 and s14 ka motors. Even between the s14 obd1 and s14 obd2.
Just put on your s13 intake and exhaust manifold and also your dizzy. Everything else should be cake.
You can use any motor mount as they are al the same. Even for the sr and ka. Most people just use the Nismos.
come back to LA when you turn 21. then drink until your liver fails.
Thanks didnt know if the sr20 motor mounts worked with the ka motor, thats what i was looking for, cause every nismo i find are for sr, yea i see most people say the same thing cant wait, oh and btw is there a differance in power between the DE s13 and DE in the S14
sblack13
03-03-2008, 10:32 PM
no difference. I don't see why you can't swap a s14 ka into a s13 and keep your s14 intake manifold. You'd just have to wire it up and extend the power wires to the front of the car, which is cake anyways.
You use Whatever downpipe for what header you are running. You cannot interchange.
98s14inaz
03-04-2008, 07:08 AM
no difference. I don't see why you can't swap a s14 ka into a s13 and keep your s14 intake manifold. You'd just have to wire it up and extend the power wires to the front of the car, which is cake anyways...
If you use the distributor and intake mani from the car you are swapping to, wiring won't be a problem. Plug and play.
...You use Whatever downpipe for what header you are running. You cannot interchange.
I forgot about that part. Use the exhaust mani and downpipe from the car you are swapping to.
na12uto
03-04-2008, 05:32 PM
OOOH came across another question based off of wanting to put things on the motor before installing it since were not going to get around to it until the 30th but will it matter what pully set i buy or are the pullies the same size... hmm and same goes for the fuel injectors and fuel rails, i understand that ill be keeping the s13 manifolds, exhaust and intake. and the s13 distributer will be easy to install plug and play =D
98s14inaz
03-05-2008, 07:38 AM
OOOH came across another question based off of wanting to put things on the motor before installing it since were not going to get around to it until the 30th but will it matter what pully set i buy or are the pullies the same size... hmm and same goes for the fuel injectors and fuel rails, i understand that ill be keeping the s13 manifolds, exhaust and intake. and the s13 distributer will be easy to install plug and play =D
Just put oem pulleys on before you break something. The weight difference is negligable except for the crank pulley. Money would be better spent on light flywheel or one piece aluminum driveshaft.
DRFT_240sx
03-05-2008, 07:52 AM
i just did it and my car runs geat. all i did was swap intake manifolds and distributors....
Devil Man
03-05-2008, 08:31 AM
its easy, though let me tell you if you have a s13 motor and a s14 motor look into threads that talk about the cams swaps that can be done with the 2 sets that you have you can play with them some and have something special. also, I used the lower intake mani from the s13 and the upper from the s14. the s14 has no intake butterflys on the top half of the intake mani. the only other thing that is different is the head and valve cover from now on you must get s14 parts there. ALSO A BIG ONE, from my s13 to my s14 ka the belts are a little different, the s14 are like 1 or 2 teeth less then my s13. (though i had a hicus car) and then of corse the dizy thing too. use your s13 fuel rail. GL
ChicagoS14
03-05-2008, 08:43 AM
I've done both. The blocks (s13/s14) are essentially the same. The differences start with the heads, valve covers, front covers, and intake manifolds.
What ever year car you swap the ka into make sure you use the intake mani from that car with the appropriate sensors. You can use any head as long as you use the front covers and valve covers from that head.
I had an s13 ka block and head in my s14 and used the s14 intake manifold, s13 valve covers, and s13 front covers.
I hope that helps clear any confusion.
Actually I have an S13 intake manifold on my S14 because it was powdercoated and I picked it up when I was removing emissions on mine, so I traded them.... the only differences between the 2 are a slight difference in one of the bolts for the coolant line, I just used one of those insulated electrical clamps you get at home depot instead of the part on the coolant line and S13 intake manifolds have butterfly valves, the one I had was already stripped of them. Other then that identical except for a few slight differences in the angles of some of the nipples.... but no biggie.
98s14inaz
03-05-2008, 09:18 AM
Actually I have an S13 intake manifold on my S14 because it was powdercoated and I picked it up when I was removing emissions on mine, so I traded them.... the only differences between the 2 are a slight difference in one of the bolts for the coolant line, I just used one of those insulated electrical clamps you get at home depot instead of the part on the coolant line and S13 intake manifolds have butterfly valves, the one I had was already stripped of them. Other then that identical except for a few slight differences in the angles of some of the nipples.... but no biggie.
True, I only said that because I put an s13 motor into my obdII s14 and I needed the intake mani and sensors in order not to throw a code.
datsun510dude
05-16-2008, 11:51 PM
Bringin this one back a little bit since I recently aquired a s14 ka for a good deal. Now, with all the talk of changing intake manifolds....im curious to why this is... i read that the coolant lines are different....and im also assuming some sensors as well would need to be changed. Now, i guess what im asking is that if I used a s13 distrib and header with an s14 intake manifold with s13 sensors....( keep in mind I am removing most of the emissions equipment too (egr, aiv, possibly everything and running 034efi)
thanks!!
IJDMDRIFTI
05-16-2008, 11:58 PM
put the s13 intake manifold and exhaust manifold on the s14 motor and keep your harness off of your s13. thats basically it
Thats exactly what i did when i swapped my 95 KA24DE into my 91 s13
510skater
05-18-2008, 12:47 AM
im in the middle of this swap right now a 96 ka into 1990 s13 with dual swap already done ... im using the s13 lower intake manifold...
the main difference that is confusing to me that no one has mentioned it the egr solenoid valve and scv control solenoid valve... they are the 2 sensors located on the back of the valve cover on the 13 engine.... the 14 doesnt have these!! do you need to use these and if not what do you do with the vacuum lines?
GSXRJJordan
05-18-2008, 02:36 AM
I'm glad this got bumped up. I'm currently swapping my S13 SR from my S13 into my S14, and the S14's KA into the S13. These notes are from my position, having two complete motors/harnesses but no "donor" S13 KA.
*it can be done without the S13 intake mani/dist/etc, but you have to use the S14 ECU, and the heater hoses get complicated. I'll see if I can dig up some pics of the heater hose situation in the S13. Needless to say, it wasn't as hard as the S13 SR into S14 heater hose nonsense.
*you'll need the lower engine harness from the S14 to stay with the S14 motor, because it's got crankshaft position sensor and rear heated o2 sensor connections, along with neutral/reverse/5th gear/VSS and alt/starter stuff. You'll need to keep the 8-pin grey connector (FSM link coming) with crank pos/o2 on it, and swap the other 8-pin connector (this one's black) with the 8-pin connector on the S13, or 'make your own' lower harness connector for neutral/reverse/5th gear/VSS/alt charge. Also, the connectors for the fuse box for the alternator are different, so you can either swap plugs from an S13 harness or 'make your own'.
*as stated before, the exhaust manifolds are different, but if you have upper and lower manifolds for either s13 or s14, you're good. S14 uses two o2 sensors (front not heated/1 conductor, rear heated/3 conductor).
*if you're using the S14 intake mani, you need the S14 upper harness, which means you need the ECU, which means you get to play the S13/S14 power game. S13 power connectors are the 8-pin grey and 8-pin brown connections up by the battery, while the S14 gets power from a nifty connector inside the cabin... also, the S14 ECU relay sits on the S14 engine harness, while the S13 has an ECU relay in the engine bay fuse box. I chopped the S14 power connector off the S14 harness to use on my S13 SR, and then ran the corresponding wires (fuel pump relay, ECU power, ECU backup, ECU ground, and probably one more) up through the fender and to the S13 location (eliminated ECU relay on the harness). The rest of the S14 harness is useless to an S13 anyway (it's got cruise control, window wipers, etc - all stuff the S13 uses the body harness for).
More later, if anyone's interested...
sblack13
05-18-2008, 05:35 AM
The main differences in the sensors for the intake manifold
in case anyone is wondering
is the TPS
and you must swap out the Coolant Temp Sensor (single wire)
illvialuver
05-18-2008, 06:15 AM
I am throwing a 94 ka into my 96, and I have completley tore down the motor with the exception of the blocks internals.
all new gaskets and vaccum lines, and I even am painting all the mounting brackets, and other parts. so it will end up looking like a new ka when it goes in.
im runnin the 14 header and wanted to know one thing. if i dont run the egr pipe will i thorw a code? is it needed? I need to get a new one, bacause every used one I find is cracked or rusted through. I just want the thing to pass smog, and be reliable.
I did not see that anyone metnion the importance of the ecu and the maf.
I have to run the 14 maf for my 13 motor because i have a 14 ecu.
and if you have the motor seperated from the tranny than it would be a good idea to replace the front a dn rear main seals.
510skater
05-19-2008, 12:04 AM
*you'll need the lower engine harness from the S14 to stay with the S14 motor, because it's got crankshaft position sensor and rear heated o2 sensor connections, along with neutral/reverse/5th gear/VSS and alt/starter stuff. You'll need to keep the 8-pin grey connector (FSM link coming) with crank pos/o2 on it, and swap the other 8-pin connector (this one's black) with the 8-pin connector on the S13, or 'make your own' lower harness connector for neutral/reverse/5th gear/VSS/alt charge. Also, the connectors for the fuse box for the alternator are different, so you can either swap plugs from an S13 harness or 'make your own'.
i just completed this swap but my motor is running like crap...
I used s14 upper mani and s13 lower. I changed the tps dizzy temp sensor and used my complete s13 engine harness and ecu. i used my s13 tranny instead of s14 tranny
so you say i need to have the lower engine harness to stay with the 14 motor? does this still apply if im not using the tranny with the the 14 sensors on it?
GSXRJJordan
05-19-2008, 03:32 AM
I don't know what's different between the S13 and S14 KA lower harnesses (besides the physical plugs), as I don't have a S13 KA sitting here. If you're using a S13 ECU and S13 upper harness, I can't imagine you having any problems using the S13 lower harness in an S13.
Your problems are probably the usual vacuum/maf/etc stuff.
illvialuver
05-19-2008, 06:33 PM
there mafs are different you need to run an s14 maf with an s14 wire harness. and vice versa.
RiceKidd
06-16-2008, 03:19 AM
ohkay im doing the swap s14 engine s13. and i did everything.
im using the stock s13 wiring harness.
changed the bottom of the intake manifold
changed the distributor
maf sensor.
but i curious wtf do i with vaccum line behind the head.
on the s13 it has the bpt valve and the other valve on a bracket behind the head and the s14 doesnt have anything behind it!?!?!
and right now im almost done and the engine wont start!
iM STUCK!!! HELP!!! ASAP! PM ME! or reply on here.
shanes14
04-08-2009, 05:26 PM
all you need really is the fpr vacuum line and the brake vacuum line.. everything else you can delete, ,if you dont have emissions where you live..
ive done this swap but the engine isnt running well, missfiring and low power. cant find it.. i think ill have to change the harness and itll be fine.
rex2sx
04-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Grave diggn?
LA_phantom_240
04-08-2009, 07:49 PM
Want to put an S14 motor into your S13? Swap your S13 intake manifold and dizzy. Also, I think the alternator needs to be swapped. Use your S13 harnesses and you're gold.
GSXRJJordan
04-08-2009, 08:05 PM
I finished my S14 KA swap -> S13 using all S14 components last week, and sold that S13 this past weekend. Runs like a champ.
The lower harness was entirely S14, and the only thing that required splicing was the E202 plug (tranny sensors/etc).
The upper harness (also S14, with S14 ECU):
* ignition switch's START (on the orange wire)
* constant +12V (to ECU and to S14 ECU relay, bypassing S13's ECU relay under the hood because it was already on the harness)
* switched +12V (also from ignition switch - drew about 8A, so if you have anything else drawing IGN power through that 30A fusible link, keep an eye on it)
* fuel pump ground (ran a wire from the S14 harness's M63 plug's black/purp to the ground on the fuel pump relays coil in the engine bay)
* coolant temp sensor - replaced with S13, wired from M63 to the dash plug (I believe both wires were blue/black)
* ground - keep an eye on this! There's the normal grounds on the intake mani around the injectors, and these need to be secure, or the ECU will not function correctly - there's no body ground near the ECU.
If you have any problems with this swap, or don't have the S13 components to use, shoot me a PM with specifics and I'll try to help. This is NOT a difficult swap.
PITCH
06-08-2009, 06:54 PM
I have an S13 KA. comming with the wiring harness and ECU. I'm looking to swap into a 95 S14. What all is needed? Could I just remove the S14 ECU and harness and use the S13's. Or not?:o
orion::S14
06-08-2009, 07:03 PM
^^^ NO.
Just use your harness and ECU with the S13 motor and sensors...it's 98% plug and play.
Whatever doesn;t plug in, just swap the sensor off your S14 motor. Easy.
- Brian
s13ways
07-10-2010, 12:14 PM
I finished my S14 KA swap -> S13 using all S14 components last week, and sold that S13 this past weekend. Runs like a champ.
The lower harness was entirely S14, and the only thing that required splicing was the E202 plug (tranny sensors/etc).
The upper harness (also S14, with S14 ECU):
* ignition switch's START (on the orange wire)
* constant +12V (to ECU and to S14 ECU relay, bypassing S13's ECU relay under the hood because it was already on the harness)
* switched +12V (also from ignition switch - drew about 8A, so if you have anything else drawing IGN power through that 30A fusible link, keep an eye on it)
* fuel pump ground (ran a wire from the S14 harness's M63 plug's black/purp to the ground on the fuel pump relays coil in the engine bay)
* coolant temp sensor - replaced with S13, wired from M63 to the dash plug (I believe both wires were blue/black)
* ground - keep an eye on this! There's the normal grounds on the intake mani around the injectors, and these need to be secure, or the ECU will not function correctly - there's no body ground near the ECU.
If you have any problems with this swap, or don't have the S13 components to use, shoot me a PM with specifics and I'll try to help. This is NOT a difficult swap.
Ok so here's my deal. The s14 ka was automatic so How would I use the ecu? I am using s13 5spd transmission. Also is that wiring to the dash plug your explaining?
GSXRJJordan
07-10-2010, 02:45 PM
Ok so here's my deal. The s14 ka was automatic so How would I use the ecu? I am using s13 5spd transmission. Also is that wiring to the dash plug your explaining?
Wow that was a while ago.
The automatic ECU will run a M/T car without a problem, and S13/S14 trannies are the same (save the OBD2 crank position sensor up top on the bellhousing) so no worries there. The S14 upper engine harness doesn't have a separate dash plug and power plugs like the S13 harness, it's all combined into the M63/F3 plug (that's its designation in the FSM). Here's one depinned to just the essentials.
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pFEZxjW1Z2eafehnwwKxaCH1CtDBNbxopLGMy37zb_0MWj1A lUG75DEEvmdLE_1Lrgx8e7cY2QorJNez8pw0_TQ/DSC06358.jpg?psid=1
driftlife
08-02-2010, 03:43 AM
im planning to do the same thing swapping a 96 s14 ka to a s13 chassi but i was thinking just to take all the components/wires (strip the engine bay basically) and replace every thing with the s14 components ecu fuse box i mean everything and since ima put the s14 cluster on my s13 it would be better rite easier ????
any feed backs would be helpful????
GSXRJJordan
08-02-2010, 01:29 PM
Sounds like a ton of work for nothing. It's not going to look or work better just because it's S14 stuff.
cdlong
08-13-2010, 06:45 AM
I don't feel too bad bumping this thread since it's not that old anymore. I'm planning on doing the opposite, putting an S13 KA into my S14. But I'm just using the pan, block, head, valve cover and front covers. I'd like to keep the S14 manifolds, AC, PS pump, alternator, distributor and all wiring. Two uncertainties, will the accessories bolt on (no changes to the brackets and belt routing)? And will the S14 distributor bolt into the S13 head?
Everyone who chimed in that you don't need to switch over to S13 parts is correct. I have a 95 (S14) KA24DE in an S12, and so I had to use all the S14 related components. It not only works fine, it's less complicated... the vac harness is simpler, the wiring is more condensed, and the intake manifold doesn't have those useless butterflies and twin-ports... you need to tap into the green (If I remember right) wire for the tach signal because the ignition coil is integrated into the distributor (unlike the S13 KA24DE) but otherwise everything works so long as you keep the S14 ECU and MAF.
And as far as the heater hoses go, the S12 didn't have them anywhere near where I needed them to be, so I just had to use bent hose sections to get them where I wanted them to be.
Oh, and I do have an S13 long tube header on this S14 KA24DE.
ohhhizzzy
09-08-2010, 11:04 PM
im going to be doing the s14 swap into my s13 so if anyone know exactly what all i have to use/not use, wat would fit an wat wouldnt, that would really help. my motor is coming out of my running s14 so any info would really help. thanks
Tantwoforty
09-09-2010, 07:01 AM
im going to be doing the s14 swap into my s13 so if anyone know exactly what all i have to use/not use, wat would fit an wat wouldnt, that would really help. my motor is coming out of my running s14 so any info would really help. thanks
dude, scroll up. its all right infront of you.
I am actually in the middle of doing the same swap, 95 ka into my 92.
I choose to tear down the s14 ka and do a gasket kit, timing chain kit, bearings and reseal everything ect.
I will also be using the s13 lower intake and s14 upper.
I read you will loose low end power without the butterfly valves, although if you play to go turbo its not a big deal once you do.
projectRDM
09-09-2010, 08:13 PM
This entire thread is full of useless, incorrect shit. I can't believe it's gone two pages.
S14 KA into S13 chassis - > Use the S13 distributor, MAF, TPS, and CTS. Keep the S13 harness and ECU. Done. You can use either exhaust manifold with the matching EGR pipe and downpipe or just delete the EGR.
S14 KA into S14 chassis -> Use the S14 distributor, MAF, TPS, and CTS. Use the S14 harness and ECU. Done again.
Alternator, water pump, and power steering pump are the same from 1991-1998 (alternators differ between S13 and S14 as far as plug placement, but they all plug in and work fine). AC compressor matches the chassis as the lines differ. You could swap if you had new lines made, S13 lines do not bolt up to S14 compressors, and there's three of them anyway (1995, 1996, 1997-98), so just use what's in the car.
You can swap the entire intake manifold if you want.
Nothing new here, we've discussed this since 1995. Seriously people.
zach240sx
09-09-2010, 08:20 PM
i did this in my old hatch. you will need the s14 harness and ecu,distributor,s13 exaust mani,and s14 maf. that should be everything you have to do. you can use the s13 harness,but you will have to cut and splice,
slidevertable
09-09-2010, 08:30 PM
yeah i dropped a 96 in my 93 vert and it was just plug an play
projectRDM
09-10-2010, 08:45 AM
i did this in my old hatch. you will need the s14 harness and ecu,distributor,s13 exaust mani,and s14 maf. that should be everything you have to do. you can use the s13 harness,but you will have to cut and splice,
You're backwards here. The S13 harness is a direct plug in to any S13 chassis, even SOHC cars. The S14 harness must be elongated to the reach the underhood plugs on the S13 chassis.
Bushido
09-10-2010, 11:56 AM
Russ, do you know a way of identifying which S14 AC compressor is which?
Taylor008
09-10-2010, 12:55 PM
I'm curious as to why the CTS and TPS is needed.
I'm 98% sure if you are swapping an OBD1 s14 motor into an s13, you will not have problems if you don't use the cts and tps.
I am asking because I didn't use those, and my motor runs great.
projectRDM
09-12-2010, 01:23 PM
Russ, do you know a way of identifying which S14 AC compressor is which?
The only thing I know to say is the 1995 and 1996 compressors use bolts to secure the lines to them, the 1997-1998 use a stud threaded in with a nut to secure the line. The larger hole for the line on the 1996 is bigger than the 1995, but unless they're side by side it's hard to tell.
I'm curious as to why the CTS and TPS is needed.
I'm 98% sure if you are swapping an OBD1 s14 motor into an s13, you will not have problems if you don't use the cts and tps.
I am asking because I didn't use those, and my motor runs great.
You are right, the 1995 TPS is the same as the S13 manual TPS, so is the CTS. 1996+ are different.
SilviaAura
01-12-2011, 11:11 PM
thumbs up!!
JC831
02-19-2013, 04:58 PM
So basically:
Upper s14 intake mani
Lower s13 mani
Swap to s13 dizzy.
And s14 lower harness?
What about the s14 cas? Its located on the bellhousing. So just block it and call it a day?
GSXRJJordan
02-19-2013, 05:33 PM
S14 cam angle sensor is in the dist, same as S13. The crank "position" sensor is actually just a motion sensor, totally unnecessary unless you have a late OBD2 KA computer and are trying to pass smog as such.
JC831
02-19-2013, 05:43 PM
We need a write up of this. Im actually about to buy a s14 swap to my 89 coupe with already a twin cam in it.
MIKE 34
05-11-2014, 07:02 PM
Can some one help me, i dropped a 95 ka in my 93 s13 and everything is plugged in I don't have any of that emissions things on I blocked everything off, now the engine cranks but it doesn't turn on or seem to try, it just turns over and over ongoing and nothing. So I check the fuel lines by the fuel rail and take them off and nothing comes out so I'm guessing there is no fuel getting there, I also pulled out the spark plug wire to smell it an doesn't smell like gas at all ( brand new wires and spark plugs) any ideas in how I can get the fuel to travel to the engine , I will appreciate the help thanks.
TerribleTopher
05-11-2014, 08:00 PM
Can some one help me, i dropped a 95 ka in my 93 s13 and everything is plugged in I don't have any of that emissions things on I blocked everything off, now the engine cranks but it doesn't turn on or seem to try, it just turns over and over ongoing and nothing. So I check the fuel lines by the fuel rail and take them off and nothing comes out so I'm guessing there is no fuel getting there, I also pulled out the spark plug wire to smell it an doesn't smell like gas at all ( brand new wires and spark plugs) any ideas in how I can get the fuel to travel to the engine , I will appreciate the help thanks.
Do you hear the pump energize when you turn the key?
MIKE 34
05-11-2014, 09:04 PM
Do you hear the pump energize when you turn the key?
I can't hear if from inside the car but everything should be working fine; every thing was working fine with the 93 ka. Where should I check to hear it ?
MIKE 34
05-11-2014, 09:05 PM
Do you hear the pump energize when you turn the key?
Or how can I test it to make sure it's still works fine?
TerribleTopher
05-11-2014, 10:54 PM
Or how can I test it to make sure it's still works fine?
If you can hear it from inside the car it's energizing. If you're not getting any fuel to the rail either a line has to be clogged, a line is on incorrectly, the fuel pump isn't creating enough pressure, or maybe the polarity is reversed on the pump. Pressure testing the fuel system would be ideal but you could trace the lines back to find where the problem is.
MIKE 34
05-23-2014, 12:09 PM
Or how can I test it to make sure it's still works fine?
Ok so I figured out what was wrong with the fuel pump so I can hear it now and now there is fuel getting to the rail. The new problem is that the car starts when I use starting fluid but then it dies, it revs high but then it dies. Any ideas in what it might be?
MIKE 34
05-28-2014, 06:52 PM
Ok update the car starts now!!! But.... It has a low rough idle. What I did was get injectors from a 93 Nissan Altima and it starts but the idle is low and rough and when I give it has it dies. I messed around with the distributer timing and the idle screw but nothing idle is still low and dies when I give it has any ideas in what it might be ?
Nubbs
05-10-2019, 10:44 PM
I’m trying to figure out a few things with my s13 coupe.
when the previous owner did the s14 ka swap, they didn’t install the PS lines from the rack to the pump/ reservoir. Pump is there though. Do the s13 ka lines mount up with the s14 ka no issue? Haven’t really been able to find any information on this. I would assume it’s all the same.
This is one of the last things I need to do before getting this thing back on the road!
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