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FIlthy 24O
02-25-2008, 12:18 AM
well........just wanted to see the limits. what you guys got?

revat619
02-25-2008, 12:55 AM
you can pull them a lot.

How it will look is an entirely different story...

racepar1
02-25-2008, 01:00 AM
Also the fender rollers work like shit on the front fenders! Hammer and baseball bat on the front, it also helps if you use a heat gun to heat the fenders (both front and rear).

S13Leprechaun
02-25-2008, 01:01 AM
if your thinking of doin that exreme of a pull, may as well spend a few hundo on wide fenders... looks better sometimes... and yeah, jay is right, pulling it too much looks like ass! lol.

hi jay! :)

racepar1
02-25-2008, 01:04 AM
^^^Yup! If you go too far on the rears you end up with dents in the quarter panels (even if you heat them). Too far in the front and the whole damn fender starts to get wavy and just generally looks like crap.

S13Leprechaun
02-25-2008, 01:05 AM
haha.. just do like 6'' widebody front and rear.. ull be the shit... might as well go all out.

CKAMC
02-25-2008, 03:00 AM
this much

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/rexnaz/driftday1035.jpg

revat619
02-25-2008, 03:05 AM
^^^

like i said, how it looks is an entirely different story. :ugh:

vodka2
02-25-2008, 04:23 AM
damn those fenders look like shit...

lv-180sx
02-25-2008, 04:45 AM
this much

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/rexnaz/driftday1035.jpg

you can clearly tell that the "pull" is a added on piece of material..

hondas_suck
02-25-2008, 05:04 AM
A perfectly ruined coupe, how sad

Mister.E
02-25-2008, 05:44 AM
damn, ive taken shits that look better than those fenders.

depending on how far out you want to go it may be better just to go with a wide fender setup. you dont want your car to look like that coupe do you?

r6_240sx
02-25-2008, 10:46 AM
There's another pic of an s13 on here with a maddd pull, but I can't find it.

Edit: Ah found it.
http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S13wide.jpg
http://www.philmorrison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S134.jpg
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1299633&postcount=139

landins13
02-25-2008, 11:08 AM
wow, i hope dudes making an retarted amount of power to really need 13 inch wide tires. oh and to agree with everyone else, please dont do that shit, buy fenders that work and look right.

!Zar!
02-25-2008, 12:17 PM
I can't make out the pic well since I'm on my phone... But is that fastback stretching all seasons!?...

I use to be all for pulls and crazyness. Now I'm feeling straight fenders/light pull. If you can't get it to fit just spring out for some widefenders.

All that camber just looks like failtown.

SoSideways
02-25-2008, 12:27 PM
That hatch owner sounds to me like someone that bought these huge wheels, then didn't have money to do the car right, so it's still running around with pig nose and stock body, minus the side skirts.

That pull seriously looks like an after thought, like "well shit mate, what in the bloody hell can we do to fit these steam rollers?"

initial_drifter
02-25-2008, 12:28 PM
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=168153&highlight=roof+rack

only way to have a clean pull is doing it the right way with metal fab work and a body guy with experience

!Zar!
02-25-2008, 01:14 PM
Clean pulls is easy to do.

Just the cases posted above were don't by morons. Revat619's pull is clean as hell.

All in how it's done.

B Love
02-25-2008, 01:17 PM
If you pull them right they can look good. But you shouldnt pull crazy just to fit whatever rims you have.

Funki*Dori
02-25-2008, 06:25 PM
That hatch owner sounds to me like someone that bought these huge wheels, then didn't have money to do the car right, so it's still running around with pig nose and stock body, minus the side skirts.

That pull seriously looks like an after thought, like "well shit mate, what in the bloody hell can we do to fit these steam rollers?"
He did it for a laugh dude:D
The owner of said hatch was Phil Morrisson of Driftworks fame (in the UK at least!) Anyone who knows the guy will know what kind of cars he can build when he's taking it seriously:drool:
Anyways, I saw the funny side... but I'm easily amused

Matej
02-25-2008, 06:49 PM
You can pull a fender all the way off the car.

gsracer
02-25-2008, 07:38 PM
You can pull 30-35mm cleanly with no body work if your not a complete tool. Just use heat and take your time.

Heres mine no bodywork has ever been done.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_5146.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/drift%20sessions%20oct%2014/IMG_5146.jpg

Quail
02-26-2008, 05:04 AM
That hatch owner sounds to me like someone that bought these huge wheels, then didn't have money to do the car right, so it's still running around with pig nose and stock body, minus the side skirts.

That pull seriously looks like an after thought, like "well shit mate, what in the bloody hell can we do to fit these steam rollers?"

One of Phil Morrison's other cars:

http://media.driftworks.com/S15/S15Decals1.jpg

http://media.driftworks.com/S15/Hotside3.jpg

The S13 was just his beater project; he only did it for a laugh.

SoSideways
02-26-2008, 08:50 AM
Cool, nice to see he's not a tool.

Ian
02-26-2008, 09:36 AM
blah blah, i wish i was phil morrisson's life partner


relax that death grip you have on Phil's nuts mate.


Nobody cares...the car still sucks...What else he owns is completely unrelated

Bushido
02-26-2008, 11:36 AM
actually the pull on the front fenders of that zenki looks pretty good. front fenders are hard to pull.

Matej
02-26-2008, 11:44 AM
Most people just hammer the front fenders.

And I like that hatchback, more than the S15, or many cars considered "well done". My wheel fitment role model.

4bangers
02-26-2008, 01:57 PM
i'm about to pull my front fender. So if you use a mallet, do you just hammer it out? can you still keep your fender liner? because I want to keep the liner and prevent all the water/rock from going into the engine bay or the door/body creavices.

racepar1
02-26-2008, 02:04 PM
If you pull your fender you CANNOT keep the liner, there will be a large gap between the fender and the liner so it will be flopping around. Actually anybody who has significantly lowered their 240 SHOULD remove the liners for clearance. If you are going to hammer out the front fenders yourself and you have no metal-working experience or skill then they will most likely look like crap when you are done. It takes a lot of time, patience, and skill to hammer them out and make them look smooth when you are done. If you do not need to pull them significantly then I would reccomend you rent a roller.

SoSideways
02-26-2008, 02:09 PM
I've seen some people cut the fender liners, so the only piece they keep is the piece in the rear of the fender well. They just put the 2 screws on, so it helps to keep the rocks/dirt/water/etc. out of the hole between the fender and the door.

I was going to do that, but got lazy.

Matej
02-26-2008, 02:42 PM
i'm about to pull my front fender. So if you use a mallet, do you just hammer it out? can you still keep your fender liner? because I want to keep the liner and prevent all the water/rock from going into the engine bay or the door/body creavices.
It works really well if you heat it up with a heatgun, if you don't have one a blowdryer should work too. Then bend the lip inward and hammer it flat along the fender. I'm sure you can keep the fender liner, but you won't be able to attach it to the lip at the top anymore, so you might have to ziptie the top to something.

Just do what this guy does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDTK9IjKIYU

I pretty much turned mine into wide fenders haha.
http://www.tuhalb.com/personal/images/fender_02.jpg

LongGrain
02-26-2008, 02:56 PM
That hatch owner sounds to me like someone that bought these huge wheels, then didn't have money to do the car right, so it's still running around with pig nose and stock body, minus the side skirts.

That pull seriously looks like an after thought, like "well shit mate, what in the bloody hell can we do to fit these steam rollers?"

haha, thats one of my predicaments right now, i dont want to buy huge agressive wheels, because i wont have the money for aero+widebody, and i dont want to buy aero/widebody because i have 15" advans.

so i'm just rollin with my current wheels and stock body until i can afford all of it at once. its ok though, my wheels have pretty good fitment.

!Zar!
02-26-2008, 03:01 PM
I've seen some people cut the fender liners, so the only piece they keep is the piece in the rear of the fender well. They just put the 2 screws on, so it helps to keep the rocks/dirt/water/etc. out of the hole between the fender and the door.

I was going to do that, but got lazy.

It will get behind there regardless.

Once you remove the liner you'll see what I'm talking about.

Shit my car's fender wells stayed cleaner after I removed that granny liner.

SoSideways
02-26-2008, 03:22 PM
It will get behind there regardless.

Once you remove the liner you'll see what I'm talking about.

Shit my car's fender wells stayed cleaner after I removed that granny liner.

Yeah, I haven't had problems with my car with it off for the last 4 years, so I'm not worried about it.

niberlin
02-26-2008, 03:38 PM
The question is not how much a fender can be pulled, but how much can a fender be pulled or rolled out without having to repaint. Answer me that!

Team Aero-K
02-26-2008, 04:13 PM
That video was funny, I have given my brothers S14 rear fenders a nice fender roll with a metal louisville slugger...and it worked great!! take a look

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/Aero-k/DSCI0685.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/Aero-k/DSCI0663-1.jpg

revat619
02-26-2008, 07:33 PM
^^^^

I swear, for the bajillionth time, thats a fender PULL, not a roll. Those terms are NOT interchangeable.

If i'm sounding like a dick, i apologize, but that REALLY annoys me. Not to mention, its just wrong and misleading.

Your fender pull looks very nice though. :bow:

JRas
02-26-2008, 08:09 PM
The question is not how much a fender can be pulled, but how much can a fender be pulled or rolled out without having to repaint. Answer me that!

we can't it depends

I do recommend using a heatgun it warm up the area before a pull or roll it will prevent the paint from flaking/cracking off.

gsracer can we get some better pics of your front pull? also answer my pm please :x:

I pretty much turned mine into wide fenders haha.
http://www.tuhalb.com/personal/images/fender_02.jpg

nice, why did you relocate your harness into the engine bay though? you know you can put it under the fender right?

Deftec
02-26-2008, 08:21 PM
Assuming he did that for clearance from the tire?

Big Bronze Rim
02-26-2008, 08:48 PM
Assuming he did that for clearance from the tire?
Yup. The harness gets chewed to bits when the car is lowered alot. That and the seam above the tire have to go.

Matej
02-26-2008, 08:51 PM
nice, why did you relocate your harness into the engine bay though? you know you can put it under the fender right?
It still rubbed, and the fender didn't fit, I know it doesn't look very tidy like this but I'd rather be safe, electrical problems are no fun.

Bushido
02-27-2008, 12:11 AM
yeah its a tight fit with the harness tucked up underneath.
almost impossible to get the fender to sit right with it there...

onevia92
02-27-2008, 12:20 AM
quick question about rolling fenders..


on coupes do you usually get a dent?

r6_240sx
02-27-2008, 12:27 AM
The "dent" is called buckling.

There's methods you can prevent it from buckling as much as possible. DIY by brokeas240sx is one method...

revat619
02-27-2008, 02:10 AM
^^^

OMG....WTF did i JUST say....:rolleyes:


Quarter panel buckling only happens on a PULL. A roll and a pull are NOT the fucking same.


A pull = when you PULL the fender further out. This is noticeable from the outside

A roll = when you roll the inner lip up. This is NOT noticeable from the outside.

Why is this so fucking hard to comprehend?!

irax
02-27-2008, 02:15 AM
I think you need to draw a picture

!Zar!
02-27-2008, 02:15 AM
^^^

OMG....WTF did i JUST say....:rolleyes:


Quarter panel buckling only happens on a PULL. A roll and a pull are NOT the fucking same.


A pull = when you PULL the fender further out. This is noticeable from the outside

A roll = when you roll the inner lip up. This is NOT noticeable from the outside.

Why is this so fucking hard to comprehend?!

It's funny when someone asks you to roll their fenders. Then they complain saying it, "looks the same". Or when the ask for a quote on a roll and then on the spot want a pull. Only to complain when they are charged more for a pull.

ugh.

haha. Stupid people are stupid.

Matej
02-27-2008, 02:22 AM
on coupes do you usually get a dent?
Not when you heat it up well enough. The heat makes it easier to "shape" in one spot instead of sending the force to the pressure point.

drifxtfx1
02-27-2008, 02:24 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/12-12-07_0333.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-06-07_0202.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-06-07_0205.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-03-07_1438.jpg

irax
02-27-2008, 02:27 AM
thats a roll right?

LOL JK!

!Zar!
02-27-2008, 02:31 AM
The, "dent" is only when whoever is doing the pull goes too fast.

It's more susceptible on fastbacks than it is coupes.

!Zar!
02-27-2008, 02:33 AM
[IMG]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-06-07_0205.jpg

Problem with that pull is that it isn't functional. It's a damn near 90* angle. Because of that it is pretty much impossible to make your car flush in my opinion.
quick question about rolling fenders..


on coupes do you usually get a dent?


The, "dent" is only when whoever is doing the pull goes too fast.

It's more susceptible on fastbacks than it is coupes.

4bangers
02-27-2008, 02:48 AM
^^yeah, that's why I want to keep the liner, to keep trapping dirt/rock from body.

I'm afraid of removing the top part of the liner is because I don't want dirt/rock to trap in the top of the fend and it expose the holes for the engine too. In addition, the water/rock might hit the wires bundle in the fender if w/o the liner to protect it. Yes, you can move it up but w/o the liner wouldn't water will just get splash up there also?

revat619
02-27-2008, 02:51 AM
^^yeah, that's why I want to keep the liner, to keep trapping dirt/rock from body.

I'm afraid of removing the top part of the liner is because I don't want dirt/rock to trap in the top of the fend and it expose the holes for the engine too. In addition, the water/rock might hit the wires bundle in the fender if w/o the liner to protect it. Yes, you can move it up but w/o the liner wouldn't water will just get splash up there also?

i've had no fender liner for years and did events with it like that. No problems at all. Get rid of it.

drifxtfx1
02-27-2008, 02:52 AM
Problem with that pull is that it isn't functional. It's a damn near 90* angle. Because of that it is pretty much impossible to make your car flush in my opinion.



The, "dent" is only when whoever is doing the pull goes too fast.

It's more susceptible on fastbacks than it is coupes.

lol i used a huge pipe and just tryin to fit dem wheels. those are 11s da 13s fit better

4bangers
02-27-2008, 03:04 AM
revat619, don't you get dirt/rock trap in body crevices? and the engine bay is more dirty due to dirt getting in there too?

pr0ject TRUENO
02-27-2008, 03:17 AM
^^yeah, that's why I want to keep the liner, to keep trapping dirt/rock from body.

I'm afraid of removing the top part of the liner is because I don't want dirt/rock to trap in the top of the fend and it expose the holes for the engine too. In addition, the water/rock might hit the wires bundle in the fender if w/o the liner to protect it. Yes, you can move it up but w/o the liner wouldn't water will just get splash up there also?

I haven't had a fender liner on my car in months and I daily drive my shit 70 miles to and from work everyday.

Yeah, it picks up leaves and rocks and shit but it tends to stay on the inside of your fender.

revat619
02-27-2008, 03:27 AM
revat619, don't you get dirt/rock trap in body crevices? and the engine bay is more dirty due to dirt getting in there too?

sometimes i guess, but how often do you really check in every crevice. and my engine bay doesnt get that dirty at all. If i detailed it on a regular basis like i used to, i'd stay showroom nice.

4bangers
02-27-2008, 04:19 AM
will the body get rust easier? what about the wire bundle? do you put it in the engine bay to keep it from exposeing to the elements?

revat619
02-27-2008, 04:33 AM
My wiring harness is relocated to my engine bay cuz my car is pretty frickin low. As for rust, i live in San Diego, CA. Rust isnt an issue.

The body wont get rust any easier though and even if your wiring harness is still under the fender, its wrapped in plastic. It may get dirty, but thats it. If you're low, you'll be more concerned with your tires rubbing it than it being exposed to dirt.

Seriously man, its really not a big deal. I wouldnt lie to you. :bow:

irax
02-27-2008, 05:10 AM
he's in Washington and my guess probably either around seatle, spocane or tacoma. rust is an issue there. But honestly a good coat of underbody spray would pretty much prevent that from happening. Those run from $2.50 a can up to around $4 a can. With one can you can apply multiple coats on both wheel wells so it REALLY should not be an issue.

4bangers
02-27-2008, 09:13 AM
thanks alot bro ^^^ I really appreciate your help. My harness plastic cover was rub off by previous owner, now I have to electric taped it, I'll look for the plastic cover to protect it again.

onevia92
02-27-2008, 11:21 PM
sooo


what ur trying to say is that i didnt heat up the pannel enough.?



can i pop it out from the inside?

SC_S13
02-27-2008, 11:52 PM
revat619 FTW haha

4banger, just pick up those hoses they use for bundling computer wires behind desks, and use those for youre harness if it'll fit. other wise, a couple rounds of industrial electrical tape will work fine!

SC_S13
02-27-2008, 11:54 PM
sooo


what ur trying to say is that i didnt heat up the pannel enough.?



can i pop it out from the inside?

yep, just apply heat and go slow. im scared to try on my own car tho, provided i get wheels that need em >.<

FIlthy 24O
02-29-2008, 10:55 AM
wow havent looked at this thing since i made it....does anyone know the offset and size on those rims in the 1st page???? thanks for the feedback everyone

SoSideways
02-29-2008, 10:58 AM
First page consisted of a few different cars' setups.

But 1 thing was common in all of those cars' wheel fitment:

Width - good width
Offset - too low

FIlthy 24O
02-29-2008, 11:05 AM
offset too low????????????????????????????????????? is there such a thing???? well dont wanna go widebody so i guess its either major pull or flares

SoSideways
02-29-2008, 11:08 AM
offset too low????????????????????????????????????? is there such a thing???? well dont wanna go widebody so i guess its either major pull or flares

If you don't want to fit the car around the wheels, then yes, there is such a thing as too low of an offset.

For example, if someone doesn't want to go wide body and want to work with a rolled + pulled stock fender, then they're limited by the space between the coilover and the fender.

Something like a 11" -12 offset wheel would obviously not fit in that space, thus too low of an offset for a given wheel width.

FIlthy 24O
02-29-2008, 11:13 AM
i guess im about that but still im a sucka for deep but i wanna keep my sleek look anyway.to do that with a kit and widebody iin my eyes is supermade and fuck that i aint goona spend all that money to smash it..so slap those deeeeep wheels on with a flare i guess are there any other options?

sb253
02-29-2008, 12:53 PM
heres a roll and pull I did a few nights ago- Heatgun, mallets, and newspaper

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff222/sb25347/IMG_1626.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff222/sb25347/IMG_1627.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff222/sb25347/IMG_1641.jpg

17x9 0 offset with 235/40. Slight newspaper pull after the roll in the rear.

Jung918
02-29-2008, 01:07 PM
Something I found. It is different but seems too time consuming.

http://www.kang.tv/james_files/240sx/fender1.jpg

http://www.kang.tv/james_files/240sx/fender2.jpg

http://www.kang.tv/james_files/240sx/fender3.jpg

http://www.kang.tv/james_files/240sx/fender4.jpg

http://www.kang.tv/james_files/240sx/fender5.jpg

http://www.kang.tv/james_files/240sx/fender6.jpg

brunswick240
02-29-2008, 01:17 PM
Newspaper pull? More info?

SoSideways
02-29-2008, 01:17 PM
^ Yeah, that's the proper way to add a flare to stock metal fenders.

Some advantages to that type of flare, obviously, is that you get to keep your stock metal fenders, and 2, you can get the exact amount of extension to fit your wheels/tires. Lastly, you won't get the "raised fender arch" problem with just pulling on the stock fenders, since you're really pulling out and up when you do that.

sb253
02-29-2008, 01:37 PM
yeah what SoSideways said. I rolled the rear fender lip then heated up the lip and surrounding areas, folded a good amount of newspapers in half, layed them on the edge of the wheel and lowered it to the ground. My buddy and I got in the trunk and bounced up and down a few times and you can really see it make the flair. We did it in three sections per wheel: top of the arch, front, then rear. Adding more paper as needed. Makes a nice little factory looking flair

FIlthy 24O
02-29-2008, 02:02 PM
that looks alittle intense what are the steps exactly also do they just weld in new sheet metal then body work?

ramman434
02-29-2008, 03:00 PM
yeah what SoSideways said. I rolled the rear fender lip then heated up the lip and surrounding areas, folded a good amount of newspapers in half, layed them on the edge of the wheel and lowered it to the ground. My buddy and I got in the trunk and bounced up and down a few times and you can really see it make the flair. We did it in three sections per wheel: top of the arch, front, then rear. Adding more paper as needed. Makes a nice little factory looking flair

Any pics so we can see how that came out?

SoSideways
02-29-2008, 03:20 PM
Any pics so we can see how that came out?


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff222/sb25347/IMG_1641.jpg

17x9 0 offset with 235/40. Slight newspaper pull after the roll in the rear.


It was only a few posts up man, come on...

4bangers
03-01-2008, 08:49 PM
my rear is ok if I lower it, but it seems like the front fender will rub since the front has less space. How do you pull the front with newspaper since you can't sit on the engine and bounce.

How come many of you guys pull the rear but not the front?

I run 17x9 +22mm 235/45/17 front/rear.

Matej
03-01-2008, 09:08 PM
Almost forgot to post my favorite car ever.
http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/6715510/P1.jpg

Jspec603
03-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Question is, is that an actual pull^^^ or is it a steel flare welded to the car? I've seen some agressive pulls, but somthing like that is getting more to the extreme side.

SoSideways
03-01-2008, 09:46 PM
^ That could have been a Koguchi Power rear fender, but that is a 70mm wider fender, and those wheels don't look like they are that wide, or have that good of offset...

ramman434
03-01-2008, 10:31 PM
I was just outta some boring ass classes man, gimme some slack...lol

Matej
03-01-2008, 10:33 PM
Nope, it's professionally blamed by Gloss Factory.
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPat/1073424/p1.jpg
http://carview-img02.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/usercar/233185/p1.jpg

SoSideways
03-01-2008, 10:55 PM
Hmm... well I guess he's sporting the Koguchi Power vinyl for sporting the hood?

fliprayzin240sx
03-02-2008, 06:48 AM
I've managed to stuff 17x10 +12 with another 8mm spacers up front on stock fenders without stupid amount of camber with 235/40 17 sized tires.

Edgar
03-02-2008, 07:13 AM
simple and clean

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/xxedtegraxx04/37f95328d2bf.jpg

KA24DESOneThree
03-02-2008, 10:12 AM
can i pop it out from the inside?

Usually. Stick your hand in there and apply even pressure and it should pop out. If it doesn't, see if someone around you has one of those inflatable bodywork bags to try and pop it out.

If you have chassis flex, it may pop back in, and if anyone leans on it, it'll pop back in.

Bubbles
03-02-2008, 06:25 PM
simple and clean

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/xxedtegraxx04/37f95328d2bf.jpg

:eek:


:wackit::wackit::wackit:

FIlthy 24O
03-02-2008, 08:10 PM
u got the specs on those rims??????on the coupe

Bubbles
03-03-2008, 11:52 PM
Awesome to the max - spec as far as I can tell.

koifish
03-04-2008, 12:20 PM
this much

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/rexnaz/driftday1035.jpg


wow dope what size is that wheel that the fender had to be pulled that much like 18 x 11 - ??? lol

!Zar!
03-04-2008, 01:16 PM
I would rather have a donk than have that shit.

Bushido
03-04-2008, 01:28 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/drift6.jpg

coolest pull.

just needs a little massaging and filling here and there... and it would be perfect.

Jlee
03-08-2008, 09:20 PM
does anyone have any pictures of an s14 front fender pulled? What's the maximum you can pull an s14 metal fender?

Jon

Jlee
03-09-2008, 02:50 PM
pull over this do-able? Just the front, rears i have overfenders

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v215/226/85/1657860007/n1657860007_437539_3543.jpg

Thanks.

Jon

revat619
03-09-2008, 03:03 PM
^^^

you cant accurately tell cuz the suspension isnt compressed like it would be on the the ground. Judging by how far the stick out though, i would have to guess that a pull will not be enough.

240cracker
03-09-2008, 03:23 PM
i think extreme pulled fenders look sick as fuck...
im gunna put my 18x8 and 18x9's on my stock fender s13
im sure it wont need to much work to make it fit. anyone have pics of that size rolled or pulled?

lilredstiffy
03-09-2008, 03:38 PM
Pulling front metals looks bad and will not give you the look you you get in the rear ( imo superflared doesn't look great anyway)

There are plenty of aftermarket front fenders for s13/s14. I'd suggest going with a pair.

CrimsonRockett
03-09-2008, 03:45 PM
i think extreme pulled fenders look sick as fuck...
im gunna put my 18x8 and 18x9's on my stock fender s13
im sure it wont need to much work to make it fit. anyone have pics of that size rolled or pulled?

Depending on the offset, I highly doubt those sizes will need almost any work at all.

Maybe a slight fender roll in the rear for the 18x9's, but nothing for the 18x8 fronts.

I'm 17x9 +20 all around with a very VERY minimal roll in the rear(just rolled the little flat piece in) and the fronts rolled themselves...

Haha.

WilloW
03-09-2008, 03:53 PM
Pulling front metals looks bad and will not give you the look you you get in the rear ( imo superflared doesn't look great anyway)

There are plenty of aftermarket front fenders for s13/s14. I'd suggest going with a pair.
I just wish that some of the importers would stock some of the non-vented fronts fenders. I guess I'll have to get the vented ones and fill in the stupid vents.

spools14
03-09-2008, 03:58 PM
my baby pull on s14:

http://www.msprotege.com/members/[email protected]/s14%20paint2%20(Small).JPG

http://www.msprotege.com/members/[email protected]/s14%20paint%20(Small).JPG

Jlee
03-09-2008, 04:19 PM
so you don't think a pull would cover the wheel? 18x9 -11 Even pull + minor body work?

Jon

ant_s13
03-09-2008, 11:04 PM
i would suggest getting tyres on the wheels, lower the car how you want it and camber it as much as you can, *then* stand back and have a look.

as people say it looks unlikely, but is hard to tell when dangling there like that. when you do the above the fender will likely rest on the tire preventing you doing what you want, so i would remove the fender, then fiddle with the suspension, then kindof hold the fender there to see how far it then needs to flare.

if you dont mind wasting those fenders you can then give it a go, and if they turn to shit then just buy some widebody ones and put them on, and flare the rear metal gaurds...

Jlee
03-12-2008, 12:48 AM
Thanks guys. I actually went and picked up some front coilovers today and threw em on. I also got my front tires mounted and the wheels fit alot more flush now. I think I can get away with pulling with a fender roller. Lemme know what you guys think will work.
Here are some pics...(keep in mind the the car is still sitting on jackstands)

I'm thinking I can get away with a pull now.. no bodywork.

Also the pictures are a little fuzzy cause I had to take them with my cell phone.

http://photos-n.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v199/226/85/1657860007/n1657860007_439085_5665.jpg
http://photos-o.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v199/226/85/1657860007/n1657860007_439086_5986.jpg

What do you guys think? Do-able?

Jon

sb253
03-12-2008, 01:21 AM
^^ you should be good with a roll and decent pull. You have camber plates? looks super do-able though.

hey spool, car is looking hot. What kit is that? nice and clean

FIlthy 24O
05-07-2008, 03:11 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/fofive/005-2.jpg

this is what i ended up with...will post later when i have my rim on and lowered the car

John_R
05-08-2008, 08:47 AM
My rears look like Spools14. But my fronts look like that red car Bushido posted. Very Wavy. I found out the rears pull a lot smoother because they are much more supported by the rest of the car. Basically the weakest part of the fender is the wheel well itself. That's not the case on the front fenders. When you start the actual pulling, the fender wants to bow outin the middle running parallel to the car. widening the space between the door and the fender.

I took my car to a couple body shops and they couldn't pull the fender without it bowing out either. So we pulled it enough to fit the front wheels and planned on just using some body filler to fill in the "waviness" of the wheel well.

I know the wheels suck, but when they are dirt cheap. I couldn't pass them up.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s286/johnwr1983/98%20240sx%20Turbo/S5000894Copy.jpg

240trainee
05-08-2008, 08:51 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/domeniccucunato/car%20pics/drift6.jpg

coolest pull.

just needs a little massaging and filling here and there... and it would be perfect.

Loved that car, looked so damn good like that, when he put aero on, it went downhill imho

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/240trainee/drift14.jpg

Entry Speed
05-08-2008, 09:09 AM
This is from the wheel fitment thread, from "wish one". This guy should chime in, this is one of the coolest pulls I've seen

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/mikeishellafresh/IMG00220.jpg

DohcKA
05-08-2008, 09:27 AM
i'd rather go with some rear wide fenders with a front pull... needless to say... some of those pulls are nice

YoungGun
05-08-2008, 12:14 PM
This is from the wheel fitment thread, from "wish one". This guy should chime in, this is one of the coolest pulls I've seen


uhh no. the quarter panel has a big ass dent.

s14kouki44
06-06-2008, 09:44 PM
i've been wanting to pull my fenders for days, im gonna try on a loose s13 fender w/ a ripped mounting bracket first, just to get the feel for it. rear pull is sick looking with a milder pull up front

Matej
06-06-2008, 10:58 PM
Anyone know how this is done? It looks too beautiful to be a regular pull. <333
The process is called "blaming" I believe, the body line is gone, but no it's not molded on flares.
http://www.matejblahut.com/image/auto/180sx/180sxred01.jpg
http://www.matejblahut.com/image/auto/180sx/180sxpink01.jpg

Bushido
06-06-2008, 11:14 PM
i believe the fender lips are turned inside out and then the fender is pulled

drifxtfx1
06-07-2008, 01:46 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-05-07_2210.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-06-07_0208.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/12-12-07_0329.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-05-07_2210-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/driftfx1/11-06-07_0205.jpg

JVD
06-07-2008, 02:00 AM
^^^ Ya, that's a poopy ass pull. Your fender is like parallel with the ground. Does nothing for wheel clearance. First corner you take, the tire(wheel?) is going to mash into the fender.

status:one
06-07-2008, 03:06 AM
This is from the wheel fitment thread, from "wish one". This guy should chime in, this is one of the coolest pulls I've seen



Great pull.... it's just that the fender ended up denting because it was too much.... that is an easy fix though I think. Man I love that car. great fitment.

morbid
06-07-2008, 04:31 AM
Or you could just buy overfenders ...



http://i27.tinypic.com/33y5ggi.jpg

drifxtfx1
06-07-2008, 05:01 AM
^^^ Ya, that's a poopy ass pull. Your fender is like parallel with the ground. Does nothing for wheel clearance. First corner you take, the tire(wheel?) is going to mash into the fender.

actually no I drifted all the time before i totaled da car. no rubbing or hittn whatsoever

irax
06-07-2008, 08:32 AM
^^^ Ya, that's a poopy ass pull. Your fender is like parallel with the ground. Does nothing for wheel clearance. First corner you take, the tire(wheel?) is going to mash into the fender.

The wheel will move in a Arc, it doesn't go straight up and down like toy cars :goyou:

Pink Slut
06-08-2008, 03:33 PM
i need to "pull" ? my arches tuesday. (We call it "roll".) To fit my 9,5 -20's. If you take the lip and dont smash it in, but pull it out, will that make the car look abit lower? im dropping it another 2" but not sure if thats enough.

!Zar!
06-08-2008, 03:41 PM
There is no, "we call it roll".

Rolling is when you make the lip flat instead of a 90* angle.

Pulling is when you widen the car by pressign the fenders outwards.

Unrolling the lip makes the fenders a tad more flexy.

Plus it will be hard to get is completely straight. So you wil lmost likely need to do bondo work.

Flip Ray did that to his old s14.

But yes, it will make your wheel arch lower, but your car will still sit like a monster truck if that's all you do.

ThatGuy
06-08-2008, 03:42 PM
^Indeed

A roll and a pull are two different things.

white92_s13
06-08-2008, 04:06 PM
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f283/toyota85ae86/PIR%20nissan%20meet/13-1.jpg

pulled far! 18x12 in the back

exitspeed
06-08-2008, 04:09 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/240trainee/drift14.jpg

I want my car to look exactly like that, but white. It's so clean and dope looking.

...

Hey, you're like my opposite. :D

fliprayzin240sx
06-08-2008, 04:50 PM
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f283/toyota85ae86/PIR%20nissan%20meet/13-1.jpg

pulled far! 18x12 in the back

Is that pulled all the way to the top or bondo'd over smooth it out? The body line/crease disappeared, thats why im asking.

If thats actually pulled that high...then DAAAMN! Its a pain in a the ass to do tho, specially if you dont have access to a welder to close the seam up.

Basically, have to either cut the inner fender or un-peel the inner and outer off each other. Pull it then reweld the 2 pieces back together to seal the fender up again.

Pink Slut
06-09-2008, 11:39 AM
But yes, it will make your wheel arch lower, but your car will still sit like a monster truck if that's all you do.

thanks for the whole rolling/pulling story, guess ill be pulling it then.

it's not "all i do" it's on coilovers now :) tucking the stock 15" tires. need abit more drop to get the new wheels how i want them

INeedNewTires
06-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Would you guys consider this a minor pull or what? 19x10.5 +23 w/ 275/30's

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/S14a%20Pics/DSCF0100e.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/S14a%20Pics/DSCF0100e.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/S14a%20Pics/2007-12-19015.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/S14a%20Pics/DSCF0097.jpg

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/ineednewtires/S14a%20Pics/DSCF0098.jpg

hibidiwho
06-09-2008, 02:52 PM
tonyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy refresh ur mind
http://a657.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/123/l_7e71dc7563db2270bac44268a161bd40.jpg
17x10 -30 rears
give me 2 hammers and some time and il make it happen hahaha

NSR250
06-09-2008, 02:57 PM
my mini pull
used some bondo to smooth things out

http://jackchou.com/underconstruction/inprogress4.jpg

and some paint to make it pretty:love:
http://jackchou.com/underconstruction/minipull.jpg

Marcus
06-09-2008, 05:43 PM
^^dude. i pm'd you bout wheel sizes/specs. never answered.

pull is fckin clean. wheels are fckin nice(i have some).
but now you need a huge ass spacer.


17x10 -30 rears
give me 2 hammers and some time and il make it happen hahaha

ur car makes those wheels look like 15s

arkive43
06-09-2008, 06:09 PM
http://i25.tinypic.com/9ftc7s.jpg
fixed :thumb:

Marcus
06-09-2008, 06:30 PM
thas how you do it.

clips
06-09-2008, 07:23 PM
Would I need a roll or pull for when I throw g35 17inch wheels on with koni shocks and GC coilovers? Also does anyone know if 300z brakes will fit on those wheels? thanks

irax
06-10-2008, 05:20 AM
did you get coupe or sedan g35 17's?

coupe, yes. sedan? no, unless that sedan came with the brembo brake option.

you wont need a roll because they are not that wide or low of offset. They look really fucking good on a slammed car with like a 20ish mm bolt on spacer and rolled fenders. pull would not be necessary, just roll and some camber or nothing at all if you don't use spacers.

clips
06-10-2008, 11:26 AM
did you get coupe or sedan g35 17's?

coupe, yes. sedan? no, unless that sedan came with the brembo brake option.

you wont need a roll because they are not that wide or low of offset. They look really fucking good on a slammed car with like a 20ish mm bolt on spacer and rolled fenders. pull would not be necessary, just roll and some camber or nothing at all if you don't use spacers.Thanks^^^ I think those wheels look better than most after market wheels but thats just me. Im surprised more people arent rolling with them

I dont plan on slamming it since mountain roads sometimes have shitty terrain but thanks for the insight.

irax
07-02-2008, 12:05 PM
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1214246394_5_FT0_dscn0841.jpg

Now that is a PULL

!Zar!
07-02-2008, 01:37 PM
No, that is an abortion.

Matej
07-02-2008, 03:11 PM
brofl
http://www.matejblahut.com/personal/images/auto/fitment_01.jpg

WISH ONE
08-05-2008, 10:28 PM
This is from the wheel fitment thread, from "wish one". This guy should chime in, this is one of the coolest pulls I've seen

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/mikeishellafresh/IMG00220.jpg
yeah that would be mine, the dent was from previous pulling the fender slightly, and improperly. I probably could have avoided it, but ehhh. for the current roll/pull, i started with a big steel bar just rolling it baseball bat style, then i cut the inside of the fender well with a cutting wheel. hammer and dollied the fender from inside out. Used a fender roller. everything you can think of i tried. i did each side in like an 1 1/2-2 hours, i could have spent more time doing it and used a heat gun and what not, but i had to do it fast, since i did it at work.once i sand everything down shrink the metal where the dent is, and use a little bit of filler it should be pretty clean, but im still debating going overs, since the whole pull/roll was supposed to be temp. anyways...once its finished it may look like the pink car or close to it.
Anyone know how this is done? It looks too beautiful to be a regular pull. <333
The process is called "blaming" I believe, the body line is gone, but no it's not molded on flares.
http://www.matejblahut.com/image/auto/180sx/180sxred01.jpg
http://www.matejblahut.com/image/auto/180sx/180sxpink01.jpg

julz
08-08-2008, 11:42 PM
i love the pull on that red car