I want that flush look with MB Weapons...

[noequalibrium]

Sooooo, I have these new tires I got for super cheap. They are 245/40/17 and 275/40/17. I'm going to be getting the MB weapon rims but, i don't know which offset I should be getting. I know nothing about tires. I'm not looking for anything "wild" that you would see in the "wheel fitment whore thread" but, I'm not looking for battleships either. I have a S13 hatch. I just need to know what dimensions i need to have a nice flush look. So, fill in the question marks for me:

Front 17 x ? +?? offset

Rear 17 x ? +?? offset

I know I'm going to need a fender roll...what else will i need? thanks everyone!

[Baron Fel]

17x9 +17 is the usual size people get for mb's

[SW20Racer]

if you're willing to roll the fenders you might as well just look through the fitment whore thread and find a 17" wheel with a tire size the same/as close as possible to yours and copy their wheel size, since there is a difference between rolling and pulling fenders. (rolling is much less involving)



p.s. it's spelled "equilibrium";)

[noequalibrium]

17x9 +17 is the usual size people get for mb's

is that for the front and rear?

[240truk]

275???? thats pretty big for a 9inch wide wheel

[noequalibrium]

if you're willing to roll the fenders you might as well just look through the fitment whore thread and find a 17" wheel with a tire size the same/as close as possible to yours and copy their wheel size, since there is a difference between rolling and pulling fenders. (rolling is much less involving)



p.s. it's spelled "equilibrium"

it is misspelled on purpose...NO EQUAL ibrium. Like I have no equal....my xbox gamertag too. lol.

thanks for the wheel info though.

[SW20Racer]

ah, good play on words. i missed that one. ill keep an eye out on xboxlive

[SimpleSexy180]

the 17 mb's come with +17 OR some bs +27..

so go with +17.....

[noequalibrium]

alright, i have the ichiba 5 lug front and back...will i need longer wheel studs for the +17 offsets? thanks a lot guys on the quick answers!

[Howard92884]

Regular studs will do.

[KwKouki]

you might wanna post what suspenson you are running, its not gonna be flush on stock equipment.

[h22speed]

fyi i am running 18x9.5 +20 front and rear... 235/40 in front and 255/35 in rear. i had to roll and pull slightly in the rear and hammer/ roll in front as well and they still rub sometimes in front. i also had to run a 5mm spacer in front. you wont need longer studs as offset has no effect on that un less you run a spacer of more than 5mm IMO. 255 is alot of tire for the rear... looks non stretched... 235/40 is about the max that you can run in the front, or thats the size aspeclogan recommended to me.
what i think you should do: run the 245 in the rear... sell the 275's or trade them for a set of 235's for the front. while im sure you could run those tires somehow/ someway... it just may not be worth the work in the end. this is just my opinion and feel free to take it for what its worth.

[noequalibrium]

fyi i am running 18x9.5 +20 front and rear... 235/40 in front and 255/35 in rear. i had to roll and pull slightly in the rear and hammer/ roll in front as well and they still rub sometimes in front. i also had to run a 5mm spacer in front. you wont need longer studs as offset has no effect on that un less you run a spacer of more than 5mm IMO. 255 is alot of tire for the rear... looks non stretched... 235/40 is about the max that you can run in the front, or thats the size aspeclogan recommended to me.
what i think you should do: run the 245 in the rear... sell the 275's or trade them for a set of 235's for the front. while im sure you could run those tires somehow/ someway... it just may not be worth the work in the end. this is just my opinion and feel free to take it for what its worth.

i like your opinion becuause it will probably save me money and a headache in the future. I think ill do what you have. 255 in the rear and then my 245 in the front.
the only reason i got all 4 tires is because i got them for $30 a tire:eek: ...brand new. I'll see if i can get one of those high HP people to pick up my tires.
i see your from jacksonville...i lived there for 20 years. I'm in Orlando now.

[gotta240]

275???? thats pretty big for a 9inch wide wheel


No its not. Its proper fitment.

[yokotas13]

235 on a 9 looks a little too big to me.

[noequalibrium]

No its not. Its proper fitment.

235 on a 9 looks a little too big to me.

now...i'm not sure what to think...lol

[mangoes]

im running 235/45/17 on a 9 and its not stretched at all, it is pretty fat =(

[JRas]

275 on a 9'' would leave you with tire bulge leaving you with less tire contact ~9.5 should be square

255 on 9'' looks pretty square from the pics I've seen

racepar1's car: hopefully he doesn't mind
specs: 5-zigen 17x9 +20 (4-lug) 255/40/17 RT-615's
http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=1953&d=1202711273 (http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=1953&d=1202711273)
http://www.zilvia.net/f/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=1952&d=1202711250

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

235/45 would look "full" on a 9j wheel, where as a 215/45 would be streched and give you a little more room.

[illxs14]

i just picked up the weapons today.
17x9 and im running just a 245
i have a s14.
how much are you gonna spend?

[ayuaddict]

17x9 +17
215/40/17

is what i am running.

[gotta240]

I run a 275 on a 9.5 and its basically square, if not SLIGHTLY stretched. Running the 275 on a 9 is not a big deal at all, and can still be considered a proper fit.

A 235 on a 9 is stretched. Not a lot, but enough to notice.

I guess what i'm trying to say is, if you have fender room to put the 275 on there, DO IT. If you are more concerned with looks than traction, or are too tight on room, go with a smaller tire. It all depends on what your priorities are. (ie: traction, looks,fitting under stock fender, etc.)

[drift-it]

lol i've never seen someone get wheels depending the sizing of thier tires. 275 will look like shit for a 9 esp if your trying to get that "flush" look. It'll just look like your down for drag racing. But it also depends on which make and model of tire you got.

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17x9 +17 all around
1 inch spacer
215/45's
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o312/slideeight6/DSC_3802s.jpg

[Grenade180sx]

umm for traction i would rather run a 235/45/17 then a 215.

talk about slip and slide.

[wanganwonder]

why is everybody running 45's

235/40 federal 595 on a 9 is butter; almost square, and what i feel would be an "appropriate" size for a 9

215/40 federal on a 595 is mildly stretched

this all depends on what tires you run.

[floodo1]

are you guys kidding by saying 235 on a 9" is square?????????????? 235 is a stretch, dont make me go take pics of it on my car to prove it...the sidewall leans in. 235 on an EIGHT inch wheel is square.

right now i have 235 all the way around, on 8" front 9" rear (sux i knowz), and on the 8" wheel its definately square. I also used to have 225's on the 8" and it was also pretty square, but 215's would start to show the stretch for sure.

god i hate you wheel / tire whores !! :) the average car guy thinks 9" +22's have a nice lip!

[zavala]

that's because everyone here (or at least 90% of people) stretch the hell out of tires. i mean come on, a 215 on a 9 inch rim? that's just stupid. i think even a 235 looks tight on a 8 inch rim. 8's get a 245 and 9's get either a 245 or 255, at least on my rims lol

[jspaeth]

are you guys kidding by saying 235 on a 9" is square?????????????? 235 is a stretch, dont make me go take pics of it on my car to prove it...the sidewall leans in. 235 on an EIGHT inch wheel is square.

right now i have 235 all the way around, on 8" front 9" rear (sux i knowz), and on the 8" wheel its definately square. I also used to have 225's on the 8" and it was also pretty square, but 215's would start to show the stretch for sure.

god i hate you wheel / tire whores !! :) the average car guy thinks 9" +22's have a nice lip!


um 8" times 25.4 mm = 203.2 mm. 235s are NOT square on an 8" rim.

here is 245 mm on a 9" rim:

http://makingapril.com/greg/justin/New 11sm.JPG

I honestly don't think 235s on an 8 inch wheel are square.

[phreze]

I have the 18x9 +15. I rock 235/40 Falken 452's on all four. Front gets a 20mm spacer rear gets 35mm. Had them made custom with built in hib-centeric rings.

[Baron Fel]

your 245's are slightly stretched on the nine...

for square tires...
215 on a 7
235 on a 8
255 on a 9
etc....

[DUSANMANDIC]

17x9 +17 all around
1 inch spacer
215/45's
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o312/slideeight6/DSC_3802s.jpg

makes me happy mine should be in soon i hope i got the 18's

[drftwerks]

when did this place turn into fucking rx7 club, fucking people and their i want traction so ima put a hug fucking tire on a small ass wheel talk

[1985zcar]

I had MB Competitions and ran a 215/40 (+27, pre +17 era) and 15mm spacer up front for clearance reasons and ran a 235/40 out back...235 is the way to be if you're running a KA, any wider is kind of a waste cuz you'll never break traction anyways lol

[Baron Fel]

I had MB Competitions and ran a 215/40 (+27, pre +17 era) and 15mm spacer up front for clearance reasons and ran a 235/40 out back...235 is the way to be if you're running a KA, any wider is kind of a waste cuz you'll never break traction anyways lol



not true... I was drifting on 255/40's on my stock KA for over a year...

[Addicted2Kouki]

^^^yeah.. for a while i was rollin on 245s and i could spin those on my stock KA.

not a big deal.

[Grenade180sx]

17 x 9's with a 235 fit very nicely under a lightly rolled fender.

[rhs13]

235 is the way to be if you're running a KA, any wider is kind of a waste cuz you'll never break traction anyways lol

i had 295/50s on a 15x10 wheel and still spun them. the car looked like a drag car. it took a whole lot of clutch kickin', but it's doable.

[FusionR240sx]

anything less then a 225 should be on a honda forum only.
or unless ur rollin stock wheels.

[SoSideways]

um 8" times 25.4 mm = 203.2 mm. 235s are NOT square on an 8" rim.

here is 245 mm on a 9" rim:

http://makingapril.com/greg/justin/New 11sm.JPG

I honestly don't think 235s on an 8 inch wheel are square.

When you talk about the rim's width, most rims' advertised width is from where the bead of the tire sits on 1 side, to the other.

Most of the time, the actual lips of that said wheel is 1" wider.

So a 9" rim is actually only 9" wide from 1 bead surface to the other, while it's actually 10" across from the outside lip to the inner lip.

So, for an 8" rim, it's actually 9" across from lip to lip.

9" * 25.4mm/1" = 228.6mm

And since nobody makes a 228 tire, or 230 tire, the 235 section width is the closest to being sqaure. A wide 225 would also be square on an 8" wheel.

So for those looking for a square tire on the front of the car, and not looking to be flush or dumped, 8" up front with a 235/40 would be perfect.

[bizzyj83]

People arguing over something so stupid..
^what he said, go measure your wheels.

Anyways.. 17x9+17 weapons sit pretty much flush with the stock body with 235 and some camber.

[blueshark123]

yea im currently running 235 on my oem 350z rims which are the 17x7.5 and 17x8 rims the tires look fin eon them but im going to buy the mb weapons this week and going to run the same tires on them. i also wnated to know what will look better on my s14 17x9 +17 or the 18x9 +15 they have will i need to do anybody mods in the rear

[ayuaddict]

165/30/17 on my 17x9j

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

dude just get the 9j +17, and get 215/40s.

looks perfectly normal on my automobile.

[floodo1]

here is 245 mm on a 9" rim:
http://makingapril.com/greg/justin/New 11sm.JPG

I honestly don't think 235s on an 8 inch wheel are square.

FINE, pics tomorow....that pic you posted is pretty realistic...slight stretch with 245 on 9", so 225 on 8" should be a tiny bit less strech (5mm, or 2.5mm on outside). Notice how the wheel sticks out a little bit from the sidewall in your pic? == tiny stretch.


Personally I dont think you can have too big a tire, so what if you cant break it loose with your engine? More tire = more lateral g's!!
But if you're into drifting then maybe the stretch is a good thing!

[floodo1]

yea im currently running 235 on my oem 350z rims which are the 17x7.5 and 17x8 rims the tires look fin eon them but im going to buy the mb weapons this week and going to run the same tires on them. i also wnated to know what will look better on my s14 17x9 +17 or the 18x9 +15 they have will i need to do anybody mods in the rear

S14, with no camber adjustment, so it has a bit too much for flat tire wear (unless you really beat on it more than you drive it (aka not a daily driver))
In the back (hehe)
with 17x9 +22 and 235/40/17 tires I had to roll the lip of the fender.
with 17x9 +22 and 255/40/17 tires I'll have to finish rolling the lip completely flush (hehe didnt have to with the 235's) and probably push it out a tiny bit.
Pretty sure that with 255's rolling the lip up completely isnt quite enough.

In the front
with 17x8 +22 and 225/45/17 tires I didnt have to do anything
with 17x8 +22 and 235/40/17 tires I still don't have to do anything

sooo with +17 offset you need 5mm more clearance on the outside, and 7mm with +15, so you'll be really close with the lip rolled all the way up.

either way get a fender roller and it will be a piece of cake to fit even the 18x9 +15's with 255 tires.

[badrifter]

18x9 +20 245/40 rear rolled and a lil pull 18x8+20 225/40 front (rolled)
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/BaDrifter/CIMG0676-1.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/BaDrifter/CIMG0207-1.jpg

[Matej]

Buy tires to fit wheels, not wheels to fit tires. :bigok: