Tire Recommendations

[fliprayzin240sx]

Im debating between the Falken RT-615 or the Federal 595RS...any input or other recommendations would be appreciated. Trying not to spend more than $200 per tire. Will run either 225/235 40 18s. Would want a grip setup more than anything.

[EJ253]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE-01R&partnum=24WR8RE01R&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=66


but those federals do sound pretty sick

[240trainee]

Based on what other people have said.

I would run falken 615, or Hancook RS-2

they seem very competitive in that price category. Don't know much about the feddy RS, not many people run them, that probably means something....

[corriganjoshua]

+1 for falken 615

[KA24DESOneThree]

RE01-R first. RT615 second. You will be happy with either, and they will perform exactly the same or better than the 595RS.

Go with 235/40.

[SoSideways]

Don't know much about the feddy RS, not many people run them, that probably means something....

That's because not many people even know of their existence.

Take for example, the last time a thread on here (a few weeks back) that someone asked about the RT-615 versus the 595RS, everyone said they hated the SS595 for grip driving, thinking they were talking about the 595RS.

So no, not many people know about them, much less have run them, to give any type of feed back.

[mehsilvia]

I myself considered the 595 RS. They have received alot of great reviews. Most will recommend the RT615 because they been around for awhile.

You cant go wrong with the RT615. I have had a set last me an entire season.

Ive got a pair of 235/40/18's for sale. Used for 1 track day durring the Winter, but now have switched to R-compounds. If anyone is interested.

[Aeroscraper326]

Dunlop Direzza. Can be found for like 205~ish a tire. Well worth it too.
Otherwise Run the Feddy's they fuckin rock

[gotta240]

I run the 595 RS (not the ss), and love em. sticky and come in any size

[eastcoastS14]

in all seriousness check out ebay...I found a really good deal on Falken Fk451's back when i needed a replacement....and plenty of sets of 4 for really cheap....plenty of other really good tires for sick prices

[racepar1]

Falken's are PROVEN tires, and are available at an affordable price. Why would you want to risk it with fererals? Federal tires are historically crap. I personally run the falkens and have absolutely no complaints at all. You can also try the hankook's rs-2's. I know a couple guys that run them and they swear that they have a bit more grip than the falkens.

[Risu2112]

I still like the GS-D3's, tire rack has them for $188 in the 225' and $209 if you go with the 235's; Right around your price range.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=24YR8F1GSD3XL&fromCompare1=yes&place=16

The falken's are really nice too, I've never personally used the federals but I hear mostly good things about them. You'll probably be happy with any of these recommendations. :)

[steve shadows]

How much HP do you have?

How much of a street car is this?

[Koopa Troopa]

I say you save your money and wait for me to come back and finish my car so you can drive it yourself on both 245/45/17 RT615 and 255/40/17 NT01. It'd be a great idea considering our cars have almost identical suspension and give you time to save some money.

[azndoc]

SEARCH you NOOB. Okay I'm kidding Ray. I use the 615's up front for drifting and sometimes it can be way too grippy when it gets really hot. Kinda annoying a bit. But I'm sure for grip driving it would be sweet.

[wylin]

try dunlop Z1 they getting more common for s2000's (cheap price/ decent grip) that go tracking, also try the bridgestone RE01R for grip.

if you are going drifting i'd stick with something cheap like Falken FK452, Hankook 512's, or Federals. since u'll be thrashing them anyway.

[JRas]

you contradict urself you want a grip setup yet, you stretch your tires and won't run bigger than 235's

here are some setups of people who posted in your thread:
mehsilvia: Toyo Proxes R888 235/40/18 255/35/18 on Raze R74 18x8.5 +25 18x9.5 +25
racepar1: 255/40/17 RT-615's on 5-zigen 17x9 +20
Koopa Troopa: 245/45/17 RT615 and 255/40/17 NT01 on Enkei RPF1 17x9.5/10 +18

notice anything?

[steve shadows]

I have 17x8s

235 40 17 F
255 40 17 R

bahahahaha

Grips like GOD (unless I am on the gas on a decreasing radius turn)

[mehsilvia]

you contradict urself you want a grip setup yet, you stretch your tires and won't run bigger than 235's

here are some setups of people who posted in your thread:
mehsilvia: Toyo Proxes R888 235/40/18 255/35/18 on Raze R74 18x8.5 +25 18x9.5 +25
racepar1: 255/40/17 RT-615's on 5-zigen 17x9 +20
Koopa Troopa: 245/45/17 RT615 and 255/40/17 NT01 on Enkei RPF1 17x9.5/10 +18

notice anything?

Also, the Toyo's (as with all R-compounds) are +10

And now that these are mounted, ill be going larger 245/265 on my next set. Should be juuuuust perfect.

[Dousan_PG]

personal expirience:


1) Advan Neova AD07
2) Bridgestone RE01R
3) Falken RT 615

going to try the RS shortly. looking forward to it.
also going to buy some R1Rs try them puppies out too!

[SixSpeedSleuth]

I can't vouch for any of the other tires listed on this thread, but I run the Falken RT 615's all the way around and love them. Esp for the price. 400+whp and they still grip pretty damn good. (255/40/17 rear).

[hitman]

rt615s are grippy right down to the cords. drift though

[S14DB]

Can't you get some super sticky tires over there that we can't get?

[bigOdom1]

i like the rt 615 that i have on my car now but auto-x on a concrete helicopter pad earlier this month wears them out really fast, and they are rolling like cubes after locking up the brakes on a couple runs. for the price they are nice and i just could not bring myself to buy the feddy's and a friend had some older rt215 on some g coupe wheels that i bought from him so i have some tire at the moment but will be getting some more after the spring. whenever i am at a track day or auto x i see a majority of azenis lest they are r comps or stock tires all those folks cant be wrong

[azndoc]

Don't know if this is new or not. Just flipping through mar 08 issue of DT and they have an advertisement for a Federal 595 RS-R tire. ???????

[ripnbst]

I have no experience with the Federal RS but have heard good things from people's experience and mags have rated them high.

[gotta240]

you contradict urself you want a grip setup yet, you stretch your tires and won't run bigger than 235's

here are some setups of people who posted in your thread:
mehsilvia: Toyo Proxes R888 235/40/18 255/35/18 on Raze R74 18x8.5 +25 18x9.5 +25
racepar1: 255/40/17 RT-615's on 5-zigen 17x9 +20
Koopa Troopa: 245/45/17 RT615 and 255/40/17 NT01 on Enkei RPF1 17x9.5/10 +18

notice anything?

Spoken for truth. If you really want a grip set-up, run a real sized tire. I'm running 255/35/18 and 275/35/18. May go larger some day.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Can't you get some super sticky tires over there that we can't get?

I also dont wanna pay over $300 for some tires. Tires here are expensive. I paid double for Feds out here compared to if I ordered them in the states.

you contradict urself you want a grip setup yet, you stretch your tires and won't run bigger than 235's

here are some setups of people who posted in your thread:
mehsilvia: Toyo Proxes R888 235/40/18 255/35/18 on Raze R74 18x8.5 +25 18x9.5 +25
racepar1: 255/40/17 RT-615's on 5-zigen 17x9 +20
Koopa Troopa: 245/45/17 RT615 and 255/40/17 NT01 on Enkei RPF1 17x9.5/10 +18

notice anything?

I know that...but im running 9.5 all around with +12 offset, clearance up front under full lock comes into play for me (for now till i get off my lazy ass to beat the shit out of the fender well and pull the fenders some more). Im running some 245/40 18s S-drives and they are rubbing all over the place. Besides, I said grip for some sticky tires, but this cars gonna be used more for daily driving with the every so often mountain jaunts. 225/40 was just a safe bet for now just cuz i know it cleared. :bigok:

[Daniel.]

I can't personally vouch for them, but what about the new Toyo Proxes R1R?

http://www.aimtire.com/typ_tire.asp?ObjectID=6788

http://www.toyoad.com/r1r.html

It's supposed to be a nice little compromise between the RT-615 and the RA-1

140 tread rating though. ouch

[Aeroscraper326]

Potenza Re-01r also rocks it and stole your girlfriend.

[CAPTAINNEO]

personal expirience:


1) Advan Neova AD07
2) Bridgestone RE01R
3) Falken RT 615

going to try the RS shortly. looking forward to it.
also going to buy some R1Rs try them puppies out too!

aaron---
dont count out kumho quite yet...this is a pic of the new XS, unveiled at SEMA last year. should be released by the end of the 1st quarter...
similar specs as the ad07, priced around the 615.
http://media.socialurl.com/photo/87/1987/4057/305238_large.jpg

[kawika219]

i have the federal evo's up front, 205/55/16 on stock SE's. i went up a mountain run on a COMPLETELY stock s14 and the tires performed well for the price. in hawaii, cost of living is expensive so i cant afford the big brand name good stuff

[nissans14k]

i personaly have the 595 RS, and theyre great.. i love them.

[JRas]

i personaly have the 595 RS, and theyre great.. i love them.

my mistake thought you were speaking of the SS595

[gotta240]

:stupid: HOLY FUCK. Haven't we just fucking gone over this in like 6 different posts.

LEARN TO FUCKING READ. Do you even know what a fucking 595 RS tire is? NO YOU FUCKING DON'T. Do you even know what a grip set-up is? NO YOU FUCKING DONT.

I know i sound like a dick, but holy fuck, READ BEFORE SAYING STUPID ASS SHIT.

595 RS does NOT equal 595 SS

:spank: :redxd: :wtf: :mepoke: :wtc: :mad: :fawk:

[Dousan_PG]

haha too funny
mental retardation.

[slideways2004]

aaron---
dont count out kumho quite yet...this is a pic of the new XS, unveiled at SEMA last year. should be released by the end of the 1st quarter...
similar specs as the ad07, priced around the 615.
http://media.socialurl.com/photo/87/1987/4057/305238_large.jpg

thanks for the info

[JRas]

:stupid: HOLY FUCK. Haven't we just fucking gone over this in like 6 different posts.

LEARN TO FUCKING READ. Do you even know what a fucking 595 RS tire is? NO YOU FUCKING DON'T. Do you even know what a grip set-up is? NO YOU FUCKING DONT.

I know i sound like a dick, but holy fuck, READ BEFORE SAYING STUPID ASS SHIT.

595 RS does NOT equal 595 SS

:spank: :redxd: :wtf: :mepoke: :wtc: :mad: :fawk:


simmer the fuck down it was one letter RS and SS. If there is such a big difference between these tires, maybe fed should make names to better distinguish between the two.

flip out more next time...

[gotta240]

Next time i'll flip out twice as bad. SOMEONE had to do it so no one will ever compare the RS to the SS again, nor will they confuse the two.

At least now its bold so no one can miss it. lol.

[gotta240]

595 RS doesn't equal 595 SS

There. Now no one can say they missed it. :aw:

[Aoshi112]

Almost a year ago Grassroots Motorsports did their test on the 595RS. I'm surprised no one posted this earlier:

Link to another forum:
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f136/grassroots-motorsports-grippiest-street-tire-test-344939/

I'll snap a portion of what they said of the 595RS:

Federal 595RS:

A New Contender From Taiwan

The 595RS is the newest high-performance tire from Taiwan's Federal Tire. The company is expanding its line of grippy rubber to help build brand recognition here in the States, and the 595RS is touted as a maximum-performance tire that can deliver strong lap times. The 595RS is also said to exhibit easy breakaway characteristics, a handy feature for those in the drift scene.

The idea of performance tires from Taiwan may sound a little unusual, but many enthusiasts once said the same thing about Japanese- and Korean-made offerings. Nor is Federal the lone contender from that country: Maxxis is another Taiwanese company looking to make inroads in the American performance scene.

The street-driven portion of our test revealed that the Federal sounds a bit like the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3, as it produces some hum at highway speeds. Like the Goodyear, the 595RS is also a fairly respectable performer in the wet.

When pushed to the limit, the Federal felt surprisingly like the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212, a tire we tested in our last street tire test. The 595RS has a lot of void area and quite a bit of flex in the sidewall, which made the tire feel pretty squishy and squirmy at the limit of adhesion - again, much like the Hankook. This trait equates to decent wet traction, but also results in a lot of sliding and a lag in transient response.

On the plus side, these issues can usually be reduced with tire shaving and pressure management. This tire also offers a broad slip angle that allows for a lot of sideways momentum before the car's speed is reduced.

Not only does the Federal share a lot of characteristics with the Hankook, but its lap times sound be similar as well: In our autocross testing, both the Federal and Hankook have consistently lagged a half-second behind the Falken on our 42-second course.

On the open track, it was a little hard to get the Federal to corner consistently, although its fastest lap was right down there with the Bridgestone and Yokohama. We're thinking that with a proper shave to 4/32-inch or less and some tire pressure and camber tuning, drivers will be able to make the Federal 595RS a contender. Its low price of approximately $125 per tire (online) in our tested size certainly sweetens the deal.

[SoSideways]

Actually someone did post that up, in the last thread, when someone asked whether he should get Falken RT-615s or Federal 595RSs, and yep, you guessed it, everyone in that thread posted up their impression of 595SS in a grip setup, said they sucked, and didn't realize that they were talking about the wrong tire.

That's why gotta240 is so pissed off.

[racepar1]

Almost a year ago Grassroots Motorsports did their test on the 595RS. I'm surprised no one posted this earlier:

Link to another forum:
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f136/grassroots-motorsports-grippiest-street-tire-test-344939/

I'll snap a portion of what they said of the 595RS:

Federal 595RS:

A New Contender From Taiwan

The 595RS is the newest high-performance tire from Taiwan's Federal Tire. The company is expanding its line of grippy rubber to help build brand recognition here in the States, and the 595RS is touted as a maximum-performance tire that can deliver strong lap times. The 595RS is also said to exhibit easy breakaway characteristics, a handy feature for those in the drift scene.

The idea of performance tires from Taiwan may sound a little unusual, but many enthusiasts once said the same thing about Japanese- and Korean-made offerings. Nor is Federal the lone contender from that country: Maxxis is another Taiwanese company looking to make inroads in the American performance scene.

The street-driven portion of our test revealed that the Federal sounds a bit like the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3, as it produces some hum at highway speeds. Like the Goodyear, the 595RS is also a fairly respectable performer in the wet.

When pushed to the limit, the Federal felt surprisingly like the Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212, a tire we tested in our last street tire test. The 595RS has a lot of void area and quite a bit of flex in the sidewall, which made the tire feel pretty squishy and squirmy at the limit of adhesion - again, much like the Hankook. This trait equates to decent wet traction, but also results in a lot of sliding and a lag in transient response.

On the plus side, these issues can usually be reduced with tire shaving and pressure management. This tire also offers a broad slip angle that allows for a lot of sideways momentum before the car's speed is reduced.

Not only does the Federal share a lot of characteristics with the Hankook, but its lap times sound be similar as well: In our autocross testing, both the Federal and Hankook have consistently lagged a half-second behind the Falken on our 42-second course.

On the open track, it was a little hard to get the Federal to corner consistently, although its fastest lap was right down there with the Bridgestone and Yokohama. We're thinking that with a proper shave to 4/32-inch or less and some tire pressure and camber tuning, drivers will be able to make the Federal 595RS a contender. Its low price of approximately $125 per tire (online) in our tested size certainly sweetens the deal.

There is your answer "both the federal and the hankook have consistently lagged a half-second behind the falken on out 42 second course"! That is a GREAT reason to go with the falkens. Feddy guys eat your hearts out!

[SoSideways]

There is your answer "both the federal and the hankook have consistently lagged a half-second behind the falken on out 42 second course"! That is a GREAT reason to go with the falkens. Feddy guys eat your hearts out!

Later on the article actually points out that the RT-615s posted the fastest times on the first run, then got slower and slower with each run after that, and eventually was running around the same time as the other tires, whereas the other tires performed more consistently.

[gotta240]

Yes, thats what i've heard from people who actually use them.

The rt615's are very sticky at first, then get slippery as they get hot. The federals are said to be much more consistent.

[Koopa Troopa]

Can't you get some super sticky tires over there that we can't get?

Advan A048 and Bridgestone RE55S are pretty available but at around $300 a tire it's far from worth it...

Hell, I saved $400 buying RT615's from a company in Florida, shipping them to my mom's house in Arizona and then having her ship them to me.

City Tire Online could jack their prices up per tire about $75 and it'd still be cheaper to buy in the states...

[racepar1]

I personally think it's HILARIOUS that you can get hoosiers for cheaper than A048's! Fuckin yokohama! :mepoke:

[racepar1]

Later on the article actually points out that the RT-615s posted the fastest times on the first run, then got slower and slower with each run after that, and eventually was running around the same time as the other tires, whereas the other tires performed more consistently.

Yes, thats what i've heard from people who actually use them.

The rt615's are very sticky at first, then get slippery as they get hot. The federals are said to be much more consistent.

OK but on an autocross course or a racetrack in a time-attack format you don't need the tire to be extra consistent, you need outright grip for a couple laps. Also if you are an excellent driver you can manage your tires to save them for later in the run. NONE of these tires are true competition tires, they are all autocross/trackday tires. The only time that I have noticed fade in my azenis is when I was pushing it way too hard and driving sloppy as a result. If I slowed down for a couple laps and gathered myself the tires felt fine again.

[bigOdom1]

for the price the azenis cant be beat like i said, if they are getting hot then take the time to spray them off and cool them down

[steve shadows]

I would drift on Federal 595 RS

not SS

seriously though.

[hitman]

or, just run a small stretch to make up for the difference in sidewall stiffness.
maybe it has something to do with federal being so wide comparatively

[OptionZero]

i am eagerly awaiting the Toyo R1-R and Kumho XS

[EJ253]

rt615s are grippy right down to the cords. drift though

this is very untrue

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well, im just waiting for CityTire to reply to me and see what their quote for em shipped priority. Discount Tire is about $540 but pretty sure its just ground shipping...wonder if they do priority? Im doing some wheeling and dealing out here to get money for these. I pretty much sold 10 used tires to get brand spanking new RT615s (4 fed 595, 4 s-drives and 2 nankang NS-II).


Edit: Dammit 595RS just threw a wrench at me. They have 245/35 18s which the size that I was looking for. If I run the RT615s, ill have to run 235/40s since 245/40s are too tall.

[steve shadows]

PLEASE buy the Federals but make sure you have owned and raced on RT-615s or RE01-R so you can give a fair comparison write up.

I would wager that at any substantial HP level the Federals are just hyped shitty tires that will be outperformed by an average conti-sport.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I just ordered the RT615s from citytires. Brian pretty much stated that the RS are good for long track times. He said they stay consistent alot longer than the 615s. 615s are great for autox where there are times to let the tires cool down. The thing im looking forward to is wet driving...they both suck in the rain...

[steve shadows]

So he said the RS federals are basicallly better tires? bwaaaaaa?

Does he race cars with them? He must know exactly what he's talking about.

I'm going with Nitto NT01R next, so I'm not really interested in debating this whole azenis thing.

I will note after 6 laps at Buttonwillow they (RT615) did seem a little skiddish at the end of the last lap compared to the 2nd or 3rd. :bash:

[SoSideways]

I just ordered the RT615s from citytires. Brian pretty much stated that the RS are good for long track times. He said they stay consistent alot longer than the 615s. 615s are great for autox where there are times to let the tires cool down. The thing im looking forward to is wet driving...they both suck in the rain...

So he said the RS federals are basicallly better tires? bwaaaaaa?

Does he race cars with them? He must know exactly what he's talking about.

I'm going with Nitto NT01R next, so I'm not really interested in debating this whole azenis thing.

I will note after 6 laps at Buttonwillow they (RT615) did seem a little skiddish at the end of the last lap compared to the 2nd or 3rd. :bash:

Seems to me what Brian at City Tires said exactly what every review I've read said. That includes Mr. Holier-Than-Thou Steve Shadow's experience.

RT-615 = more out right grip, but will get greasy as they heat up. Not meant for extended runs on the track. Perfect for Auto-X or Time Attack type runs where the uber grip on the first timed lap is crucial.

595RS = less out right grip, but will stay consistent longer. Good for track days when you're running like 20 minute sessions.

Steve, seriously, you keep bashing the Federals because you've had a bad experience with one of their other tires, that's made of different compounds and even have a different tread pattern. The only reason why you're bashing them is because "they are Federals". Please, honestly, if you haven't had experience with the 595RS, who are you to keep blindly bashing them without real world experience with them?

You keep telling others to give them a write up or whatever after they have tried it, but why do you care if you hate them so much? Are their write ups in the future going to persuade you to try Feddy's? I doubt it very much.

Honestly, I've had a horrible experience back in the day with some shitty Yokomaham/Advan tires, does that mean the Advan Neova AD07 suck balls, just because they have the Yokohama/Advan brand name? No, they don't.

So seriously, godamnit man, just chill with the blind hate.

It's almost like, every time someone mentions Federal tires, you come in bashing, much like when someone mentions JWT, Codyace is there to support them.

[steve shadows]

It's not blind hate?

what are you talking about?

every car I have driven with federals handles like a yaht in a wind storm

braking hard was inconsistant, usually leading to lock ups etc.


Thats why I am saying someone go buy them and do a fair write up and document the tires ability in a closed enviornment of some sort.

Stop it with your blind devotion to a cheap tire

I find it interesting that people get so pissed off like im insulting their mother or punching a baby everytime I give my opinion and personal experience on X

It's like "Federal Tires" is some sort of street gang and I be dissin yo whole crew yO!

[SoSideways]

It's not blind hate?

what are you talking about?

every car I have driven with federals handles like a yaht in a wind storm

braking hard was inconsistant, usually leading to lock ups etc.


Thats why I am saying someone go buy them and do a fair write up and document the tires ability in a closed enviornment of some sort.

Stop it with your blind devotion to a cheap tire

I find it interesting that people get so pissed off like im insulting their mother or punching a baby everytime I give my opinion and personal experience on X

It's like "Federal Tires" is some sort of street gang

Actually, I am thinking about going with RT-615s myself. Bridgestone RE01-R if I can afford it, but eh, we'll see about that.

Again, you say that "every car I have driven with federals handles like a yaht in a wind storm, braking hard was inconsistant, usually leading to lock ups etc.," do you know if any of those were the 595RS? If not, then how are you not blindly hating on the 595RS?

I am only here for the fairness of the reviews.

Every time Federals were mentioned, you bash it. But you never conclusively said that you've actually tried driving a car with 595RS, only SS595 or their all season crap.

So, really, I am not on any tire's side, I'm just here for a fair review, which you are biased AGAINST Feddy's to begin with, so that rules you out.

[steve shadows]

Yeah I bash it because I hate them and I am entitled to my opinion.

Are you saying that what I say is so important that I am fucking up Federals business?

Well then Im flattered, maybe they should call me and give me a free set of their crappy crappy shitty shitty cheap crappy tires to try out ;)

Crappy

POOP


DOOKIE!

lols


FECALS!

[SoSideways]

Yeah I bash it because I hate them and I am entitled to my opinion.

Are you saying that what I say is so important that I am fucking up Federals business?

Well then Im flattered, maybe they should call me and give me a free set of their crappy crappy shitty shitty cheap crappy tires to try out ;)

Crappy

POOP


DOOKIE!

lols


FECALS!

You are entitled to your opinions, sure, because opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they all stink.

But it's the fact that you can't let go of your own opinion, and so when someone else comes along with one that differs from your's, you start your bashing.

Cut that shit out please.

Just this morning you told McRussellPants to "stick to tires and wheels" in a turbo/BOV discussion in another thread, perhaps you should stick to your own advice and stick to "turbo and tuning", and let some of the other guys that have had experience with tires that are brought up in this thread, which are the Federal 595RS and the Falken RT-615, so that everyone can benefit from a fair comparison?

[steve shadows]

do you work for them?

I told McRussel pants that because every time he types lately poopy spews all over the keyboard

I have had plenty of experience with tires-turbos-ems etc.

Im very comfortable dishing out my clealy stated OPINION about those shitty shitty fucking horrible ugly greasy crappy plastic joke poopy half-assed, poor people hyped crappy poopy crappy shitty crappy crappy crappy tires. called FEDERALS

:gives:

lighten up

[SoSideways]

do you work for them?

I told McRussel pants that because every time he types lately poopy spews all over the keyboard

I have had plenty of experience with tires-turbos-ems etc.

Im very comfortable dishing out my clealy stated OPINION about those shitty shitty fucking horrible ugly greasy crappy plastic joke poopy half-assed, poor people hyped crappy poopy crappy shitty crappy crappy crappy tires. called FEDERALS

:gives:

lighten up

http://yankeeschick.mlblogs.com/yankees_fans_are_the_true/images/broken_record.jpg

[steve shadows]

they suck end of story

don't buy them ever

[JRas]

we need to bring in price as it's a variable: all prices quoted from city tire online
Yokohama A048
235/45R17 93W Medium comp 25.0 25.2 9.3 $285.46
235/45R17 93W Med-Hard Comp 25.0 25.2 9.3 $285.46
245/40R17 91W Med-Hard Comp 26.0 24.8 9.8 $273.03
255/40R17 94W Med-Hard Comp 27.0 25.0 10.3 $279.26

Toyo PROXES RA-1
235/40ZR17 24.0 24.4 9.6 $200.45
235/45ZR17 25.0 25.4 9.3 $216.98
255/40ZR17 26.0 25.0 10.4 $188.85
275/40ZR17 29.0 25.7 10.9 $206.82
Bridgestone RE01R
235/40ZR17 90W 140-A-A 25.0 24.4 9.5 $177.00
235/45ZR17 94W 180-A-A 27.0 25.4 9.3 $184.00
245/40ZR17 91W 140-A-A 27.0 24.7 9.8 $178.00
245/45ZR17 95W 140-A-A 28.0 25.7 9.6 $167.00
255/40ZR17 94W 180-A-A 28.0 25.0 10.3 $204.00
Nitto NTO1
235/40ZR17 24.4 9.5 $169.11
245/45ZR17 25.6 9.7 $159.53
255/40ZR17 24.9 10.4 $160.66
275/40ZR17 25.6 10.9 $179.61
315/35ZR17 25.4 12.5 $210.81
Federal 595RS
235/40ZR17 90W 26.62 24.1 9.3 $116.00
235/45ZR17 94W 25.96 25.1 9.4 $116.00
255/40ZR17 94W 28.60 24.7 10.1 $127.00
Falken RT615
235/40R17 90W 24.3 24.4 9.6 $113.00
245/45R17 99W RF 28.7 25.6 9.6 $113.00
255/40R17 94W 27.5 25.0 10.3 $126.00
275/40R17 98W 28.8 25.6 10.8 $141.00

Hankook RS-Z212
235/40ZR17 94Y XL 25.0 24.4 9.5 $116.00
245/40ZR17 95Y XL 26.0 24.7 9.8 $119.00
245/45ZR17 99Y XL 26.0 25.7 9.6 $117.00

[SoSideways]

^ Can you put that into an easier to read format?

I think I just started twitching after reading that.

[steve shadows]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/FEDERAL3.jpg


I hope this smoothes everything over between federal tire's corporate office and shareholders and me and my super effect on theri marketability.

See free advirtising above! ^

[Dousan_PG]

its still blows me away how far your head is up your ass steve

i can see why id never ask u to tune my car, or any tuning advice/setup advice.
haha

[SoSideways]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/FEDERAL3.jpg


I hope this smoothes everything over between federal tire's corporate office and shareholders and me and my super effect on theri marketability.

See free advirtising above! ^

http://yankeeschick.mlblogs.com/yankees_fans_are_the_true/images/broken_record.jpg
http://www.tedmichener.com/images/deadhorse.jpg

[steve shadows]

its still blows me away how far your head is up your ass steve

i can see why id never ask u to tune my car, or any tuning advice/setup advice.
haha


Im pretty sure you had your head up your ass before I did though

Good luck with those dynojets and Honda shops Aaron

[Dousan_PG]

maybe i do
and im fine w/ that.

id try the RS
might in a few weeks.

[JRas]

^ Can you put that into an easier to read format?

I think I just started twitching after reading that.

ya, was in the process of editing it looks good now

mod please delete the bs posts it's ruining this thread take it elsewhere Steve your opinion has been stated already...

edit: everything should be deleted after my price post

[steve shadows]

Cool do a write up.

Until then I base everything off the SS tires.

If it makes you all violently angry, then you need to re-consider how well mind controlled you are by branding and Federal's marketing departmnet.

Your life is a hollow shell of self-indignation in the name of supporting a company making butt loads of money off you while you provide them free advirtising for nothing in return.

Thats all.

[hitman]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/FEDERAL3.jpg


I hope this smoothes everything over between federal tire's corporate office and shareholders and me and my super effect on theri marketability.

See free advirtising above! ^

if you go to a just drift event, which without question has the best drivers in socal, you will see the majority of drifters on federal. i know you think your drift sponsee is good, or you are good. but in reality you both probably suck at whatever it is you do and have no solid basis for judging anything other than wiener.
thusly, suck it.

[steve shadows]

It's amazing it's like a mouse trap, more of you keep flooding in here and furthering the stero type

[Dousan_PG]

whos' angry
i run neovas and Re01s and direzzas
i dont like ss595 they have no grip at all, imo. and i run a 245
the RE01s, neovas and dz101s are far superior (duh)

so the RS are supposed to be up there with them.
so im going to try those.

shit ill start a whole new thread for them! haha

if i could get some for this weekend, i would! id have a review by monday
but i have no money right now so maybe next weekend i can get some one for the 626 event if i can make it.

steves just a poser
he tunes cars and drives around
he'll never run any comp or show up regulary to drift events
its easier to talk online then to really start to drive regularly
and its a A LOT A LOT cheaper to do it that way. makes sense. wish i always went that route.

[SoSideways]

http://www.btinternet.com/~tonyrichardson/horse.gif

[hitman]

this is very untrue
lol really?
i ran a bran new pair right down to the end and thats how it works. they grip very consistently until the cords come out, then they lose all grip next run.

[hitman]

i ran 245 40 18 dz101s and thought they were about as grippy as 225 45 17 federal. but i have no idea what pressure they were at. plus, i have a mullet.

[steve shadows]

steves just a poser
he tunes cars and drives around
he'll never run any comp or show up regulary to drift events
its easier to talk online then to really start to drive regularly
and its a A LOT A LOT cheaper to do it that way. makes sense. wish i always went that route.

I'm not a drifter why would I show up at a drifting event?

I do track days when Im not tuning cars FOR drifters.

Yeah I'm the biggest poser in the world Aaron so poser that when you were hanging out with Jason Nagra and the ka24de power crew with your mis matched front end I WASNT already running a top mount T3 and competing in drag racing circuits...

Yeah let's start a whole new thread where everyone can post nude pictures of them posing next to cheap korean tires.

[Dousan_PG]

you should up with your golden boy? what happenned to him?

Rs are fine for grip
not just drift it seems
maybe try something new
suprise yourself??

[SoSideways]

Yeah let's start a whole new thread where everyone can post nude pictures of them posing next to cheap korean tires.

Federals are Taiwanese.

Kumho and Hankook are Korean.

[steve shadows]

Federals are Taiwanese.

Kumho and Hankook are Korean.

I stand corrected, they rock :w00t:
you should up with your golden boy? what happenned to him?



I used him for sex

[Koopa Troopa]

I just ordered the RT615s from citytires. Brian pretty much stated that the RS are good for long track times. He said they stay consistent alot longer than the 615s. 615s are great for autox where there are times to let the tires cool down. The thing im looking forward to is wet driving...they both suck in the rain...


I don't even know why you're asking that. As a general rule of thumb I go no faster than 35-40 kp/h in the rain just because I don't want to risk some dumbass doing something stupid in front of me.. I've seen some insane ass accidents in Okinawa during the rain..

However in a light shower I was getting up to 80 kp/h before I would just spin the shit out of them at the slightest touch of throttle..

I don't know why you'd use a summer tire such as RT615 and drive the posted speed limit.. 20 kp/h slower than is the way to roll in the rain on Oki dude.

[wylin]

this is hilarious, almost as funny as me and driftfreak going at it.

yeh i agree with steve dousan's a poser, one of many kids who just drift to destroy/ damage their cars because its JDM!

and steve never heard of you, u seem like another dave, just full of bs and the same e-gangster stuff online Flaming over and over...

so post on topic.

looking at the posters price list, it looks like federal RS is a decent drift tire, as its cheap and you can buy 1.5-2 of them for one of the name brand units. why doesn't the poster try them out, they are so inexpensive, that one could easily just get something else when they are worn out.

[Koopa Troopa]

so post on topic.

looking at the posters price list, it looks like federal RS is a decent drift tire, as its cheap and you can buy 1.5-2 of them for one of the name brand units. why doesn't the poster try them out, they are so inexpensive, that one could easily just get something else when they are worn out.

Ray isn't looking for a "drift" tire. I believe he stated that in his first post.

As much as I dislike drifting Aaron has been doing it since like before Ridge Racer 4 was cool... He's far from a poser, him and Steve just come from different sides of the field.

It'd be best to not to try and jump in the middle of a fire fight.

[Aeroscraper326]

Woo-hoo Where's some more drama?
Keep this shit on topic.

[racepar1]

Holy SHIT! LOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is fuckin great! Steve if I had any rep left it would definitely go to you! Seriously though did anybody really look at the price-list posted on this page? A048's are the most overpriced fucking tires in the universe! I could buy gold plated tires for cheaper! NT01's are definitely the best bang for the buck. Dousan if you would never have steve do any tuning for you then you are an idiot! His opinions on some shitty taiwanese tires have nothing at all to do with his tuning skill, which he OBVIOUSLY has a lot of. Keep it up guys! This is great!!!!!!!

[steve shadows]

and steve never heard of you, u seem like another dave, just full of bs and the same e-gangster stuff online Flaming over and over...



This is a picture of me and my rattle can car and look my TIRES

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/shadowerks/HPIM1593.jpg

I think I just met Dave, Dave is a nice guy.

R-Compounds or bust imo, seriously, Azenis might be enough if you are under say 350whp though


Zilvia wouldnt exist without drama duh

[JRas]

seriously, get the fuck out of here

sick of this flaming take it elsewhere

this thread was not intended for you guys to e-fight

[steve shadows]

I was talking about R-comps vs Azenis with a picture of my tire?



whoa

[JRas]

What about Kumho Ecsta MX's?

tireracks review/chart:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=EP

[racepar1]

seriously, get the fuck out of here

sick of this flaming take it elsewhere

this thread was not intended for you guys to e-fight


Awwww, come on man e-fights are dope! The only thing better is cripple fights, or maybe a cripple e-fight! :naughtyd: LOL!

[steve shadows]

What about Kumho Ecsta MX's?

tireracks review/chart:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=EP

I heard they hold up to heat better than Azenis.

But I havent used them in a LONG time (I dont think they MX's back then)

[SoSideways]

MXs have really soft sidewalls. Very squishy... feels awful.

Very grippy though, even when they're cold. I'd start picking up rocks and sand and crap in the morning when the car's dead cold, which is pretty cool from those tires.

[steve shadows]

well for auto-x they must be great

[ThatGuy]

Too much fighting, not enough Thread.

Sorry, but this is over. Everyone is, of course, entitled to their opinion. Everyone has the right to express their opinion publicly, thanks to Freedom of Speech.
Unfortunately for you, this is a PRIVATE forum, and we reserve the right to close things that get out of hand.

With that being said... :lockd:

Have a nice day, Zilvians. :D